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It was on the news this week and has been all over social media..
A letter saying punish a Muslim on the 04th April... it states a point system where you can commit various hate acts to score points
Police are treating this as a terrorist incident....
I agree it is enticing hatred and wanting cause harm to a particular community.
I think its sick... someone could post this through someone's letter box.. what if a child was to read the letter. |
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Hopefully no one in their right mind would do anything that a pamphlet through the door suggests they do, unfortunately there are some crazy people out there that only need the one excuse to act like a maniac  |
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My aunt was a formidable woman. She was gardening one day when the National Front came round delivering leaflets. They approached her, she cast them a withering glance, said "put it over there" and pointed to the dust bin.
The same needs to be done with this rubbish. |
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Only just heard about this. I thought it was an April fool thing, until I saw it reported on news sites.
Messages condemning this act of hate and showing solidarity against division will be greatly appreciated by any one worried/scared/affected.
This site is wonderfully inclusive and it's great to see the positive comments on this thread and also in the past when people talk against hate (of all kinds)
Thank you all |
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Speaking as someone who was attacked by racists for having none white friends I feel very strongly about stuff like this.
I was personally beaten with Baseball bats and hospitalised by a group of about 20 guy's ,head split open black eyes, broken arm,ribs,nose.
Purely for being a white guys with, Asian, Indian, African friends, of different religions.
People who carry out such acts violence and in the case of this letter are small minded, brainwashed moron's who will start a fight with anyone.
Unfortunately there are just as many idiots on all sides from pretty much all colours and religions.
I forgave the people who did this to me many years ago,as it's no longer my burdon to carry around its theirs.
Hopefully at least one of them felt remorse and guilt.
Let's hope the letter's don't fall into the hands of people who are easily swayed by hatred and they are treated with the contempt they deserve. |
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over a year ago
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I live very close to Rotherham where it was discovered that Muslim gangs had groomed 100s of children and it was covered up because nobody dared deal with them.
Those are the Muslims that want punishing along with everyone that helped cover it up. Not random Muslims who would be the victim of a pamphlet reader |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I blame education system & poor parenting law...
Don't spank the kids?? What to do with people like this...  "
Some would undoubtedly be patting them on the back instead. |
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"I live very close to Rotherham where it was discovered that Muslim gangs had groomed 100s of children and it was covered up because nobody dared deal with them.
Those are the Muslims that want punishing along with everyone that helped cover it up. Not random Muslims who would be the victim of a pamphlet reader"
It goes without saying that criminals, and those who cover up for them, should face justice in a court of law. That has nothing to do with religion, and nothing to do with this incident. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I live very close to Rotherham where it was discovered that Muslim gangs had groomed 100s of children and it was covered up because nobody dared deal with them.
Those are the Muslims that want punishing along with everyone that helped cover it up. Not random Muslims who would be the victim of a pamphlet reader
It goes without saying that criminals, and those who cover up for them, should face justice in a court of law. That has nothing to do with religion, and nothing to do with this incident."
The thread is about a pamphlet going through people’s doors about punishing Muslims, my post was about one incident that had been done my Muslim gangs. This ‘incident’ wasn’t isolated, it’s happened/happening up down the country.
People looking towards violence is quite understandable when authorities are covering up their grooming gangs. It’s a shame it’s gotten so bad |
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"People looking towards violence is quite understandable when authorities are covering up their grooming gangs. It’s a shame it’s gotten so bad"
There is a massive difference between failing to act, and actively covering up. And, no, it’s not understandable. Wanting criminals (regardless of their religion or any other irrelevant factor) to see justice in court is understandable. Inciting violence against all people who share the same religion is despicable.
Out of interest, are you religious? |
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"The thread was about Muslim not anyone else, anyway I just added my experience."
The thread is also about people posting pamphlets. I once posted pamphlets through people’s doors for a jumble sale we were running at Scouts. Is that relevant? |
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"People looking towards violence is quite understandable when authorities are covering up their grooming gangs. It’s a shame it’s gotten so bad
There is a massive difference between failing to act, and actively covering up. And, no, it’s not understandable. Wanting criminals (regardless of their religion or any other irrelevant factor) to see justice in court is understandable. Inciting violence against all people who share the same religion is despicable.
Out of interest, are you religious?"
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I'm afraid it's true, people will look to find justice themselves when it's perceived that it's not been done, hence why Thompson and Venables have had to have new identities!, it's a human trait we know and understand. |
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"People looking towards violence is quite understandable when authorities are covering up their grooming gangs. It’s a shame it’s gotten so bad
There is a massive difference between failing to act, and actively covering up. And, no, it’s not understandable. Wanting criminals (regardless of their religion or any other irrelevant factor) to see justice in court is understandable. Inciting violence against all people who share the same religion is despicable.
Out of interest, are you religious?"
No, I’m atheist.
It is understandable to see justice in court, but imagine your young daughter had been sexually assaulted by a group of men, god forbid and you couldn’t get that justice because it was being swept under the carpet, and justice in the court room was never going to be seen. I’m sure you’d soon start getting pretty angry. This is the kind of the thing that’s happening and I can understand why people are turning towards violence. As I’ve said in my previous posts, it’s a shame it’s gotten so bad and it’s the guilty ones who should be punished, not the entire religion |
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"The thread was about Muslim not anyone else, anyway I just added my experience.
The thread is also about people posting pamphlets. I once posted pamphlets through people’s doors for a jumble sale we were running at Scouts. Is that relevant?"
It’s about pamphlets inciting violence against Muslims. So no, your Boy Scout pamplets are not of any relevance |
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"Thompson and Venables"
"No, I’m atheist."
Thompson and Venables were white. Atheists have done all manner of atrocious things. Would it be appropriate to put pamphlets through doors encouraging violence towards white people and atheists?
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"Thompson and VenablesNo, I’m atheist.Thompson and Venables were white. Atheists have done all manner of atrocious things. Would it be appropriate to put pamphlets through doors encouraging violence towards white people and atheists?"
No, but I haven’t said it’s appropriate for violence against Muslims either. |
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"OK, I tried to educate people on here about what actually happens in REAL LIFE, if any other religion posted the same leaflets would we just laugh it off?"
In real life what we didn't and I hope we never would do was to post pamphlets advocating violence on all doctors because Shipman killed pensioners..
It's the logic of reading the court reports and then going out and attacking all men of a certain age after one of that age had interfered with children..
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I was done over by far right scum once, so now I'm going to put leaflets in letter boxes to give all atheists a damn good kicking.
Some will fully understand the logic ..... or lack of  |
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By *ollyGWoman
over a year ago
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"I was done over by far right scum once, so now I'm going to put leaflets in letter boxes to give all atheists a damn good kicking.
Some will fully understand the logic ..... or lack of "
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Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this |
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"Hopefully no one in their right mind would do anything that a pamphlet through the door suggests they do, unfortunately there are some crazy people out there that only need the one excuse to act like a maniac "
Like vote tory? |
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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also people appear to be forgetting that two white english women were profiting from this. |
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
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"OK, I tried to educate people on here about what actually happens in REAL LIFE, if any other religion posted the same leaflets would we just laugh it off?"
Do you even know what the leaflets are saying??
It’s not Muslims posting them. If there was a “punish the catholics” leaflet being posted through the doors there would be outrage.
Look how many abusive priests were protected by the church. Don’t see you calling for all Catholics to be tarred with the same brush. |
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"OK, I tried to educate people on here about what actually happens in REAL LIFE, if any other religion posted the same leaflets would we just laugh it off?
Do you even know what the leaflets are saying??
It’s not Muslims posting them. If there was a “punish the catholics” leaflet being posted through the doors there would be outrage.
Look how many abusive priests were protected by the church. Don’t see you calling for all Catholics to be tarred with the same brush. "
It's funny that I see people share posts about child abuse cases where "muslims" are involved and say they should be shot, hung etc but in the next breath post so called funny meme about Jimmy Seville and rolph Harris and Gary glitter and laugh at them...I see no difference in the level of abuse |
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
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"OK, I tried to educate people on here about what actually happens in REAL LIFE, if any other religion posted the same leaflets would we just laugh it off?
Do you even know what the leaflets are saying??
It’s not Muslims posting them. If there was a “punish the catholics” leaflet being posted through the doors there would be outrage.
Look how many abusive priests were protected by the church. Don’t see you calling for all Catholics to be tarred with the same brush.
It's funny that I see people share posts about child abuse cases where "muslims" are involved and say they should be shot, hung etc but in the next breath post so called funny meme about Jimmy Seville and rolph Harris and Gary glitter and laugh at them...I see no difference in the level of abuse "
Exactly! Abuse is abuse. Regardless of wh commited it. It should be treated the same way.
People who behave like that are showing their true colours. They’ll try and claim they care about the victims of abuse but they just want to hate against a religion. And not even that.
They abuse people of a specific race or skin colour because they think they’re Muslim. It’s disgusting behaviour. |
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this"
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Strange sad times we live in where it seems semi normal to hate a person of there beliefs in a non existent fantasy figure or because of a pigmentation in there skin........we all bleed the same colour and I choose to hare people because of there actions |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity. "
*small 'region'  |
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity.
*small 'region' "
My dyslexic brain read it as religion.
I still wouldn’t call it a small region comparatively. |
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity. "
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That's because you didn't read what I wrote.
A small REGION not religion, you know what a region is don't you?
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity.
*small 'region'
My dyslexic brain read it as religion.
I still wouldn’t call it a small region comparatively. "
Ah I see your dyslexic! Fair play. Let me explain it simpler English for you.
They come from a small region of Pakistan in the vast majority.
True they are all mostly Islamic but the problem isn't one or the other but a combination of both culture and religion, that's religion not region  |
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By *FFB69Woman
over a year ago
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity.
*small 'region'
My dyslexic brain read it as religion.
I still wouldn’t call it a small region comparatively.
Ah I see your dyslexic! Fair play. Let me explain it simpler English for you.
They come from a small region of Pakistan in the vast majority.
True they are all mostly Islamic but the problem isn't one or the other but a combination of both culture and religion, that's religion not region "
Really. Gonna be an asshole to someone who’s brain works in a slightly different way when it comes to reading? I’m dyslexic, not stupid. Being dyslexic doesn’t make someone stupid. Assuming that’s what it means, does make you ignorant however. Though your other comments already show that.
They also don’t all come from the same region, they were of Pakistani heritage, some were British.
Is culture and religion the reason for white males abusing women and children? What about catholic priests?
People are so horrified about what they think a religion is teaching about the acceptablility of abusing children or women, without actually looking into that religion in detail. |
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Where is this topic going..... we are talking about this letter that was posted and that it’s disgusting that there is a point system in the letter to say how you can attack a Muslim....
Some comments on here amaze me.. I.e “Muslim grooming gangs” what has this got to do with this letter being posted... if you are suggesting that this is the cause then it sounds like some sort of justification. |
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity.
*small 'region'
My dyslexic brain read it as religion.
I still wouldn’t call it a small region comparatively.
Ah I see your dyslexic! Fair play. Let me explain it simpler English for you.
They come from a small region of Pakistan in the vast majority.
True they are all mostly Islamic but the problem isn't one or the other but a combination of both culture and religion, that's religion not region
Really. Gonna be an asshole to someone who’s brain works in a slightly different way when it comes to reading? I’m dyslexic, not stupid. Being dyslexic doesn’t make someone stupid. Assuming that’s what it means, does make you ignorant however. Though your other comments already show that.
They also don’t all come from the same region, they were of Pakistani heritage, some were British.
Is culture and religion the reason for white males abusing women and children? What about catholic priests?
People are so horrified about what they think a religion is teaching about the acceptablility of abusing children or women, without actually looking into that religion in detail. "
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You are being an asshole to somebody who's brain works in a different way because I've got Asperger's.
I can't believe what a cunt your being even though I said I hadn't realised you were dyslexic
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By *angzMan
over a year ago
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"Just because a group of men were responsible for child grooming or blowing up and killing people does not mean that everyone of that particular faith is the same. I don't considered terrorists true muslims...I considered them some brain washed fucked up animal!! These leaflets remind me of Deep South American with the KKK and white supremacist citing their bullshit!! I dispise that we have people now living in fear because they are worried that they will be subject to an attack!
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When we refuse to acknowledge and start saying stuff like this what you get is the exact opposing view that ALL Muslims are terrorists or grooming gang members.
We should be having a serious adult discussion about why dozens and dozens of grooming gang members from one small particular region who are Islamic have groomed 1000s of white girls, ignoring the problem leads to leaflets that ALL Muslims are like this
Small religion? It’s not a small religion. There are over a billion Muslims in the world.
It’s the second largest religion after Christianity.
*small 'region'
My dyslexic brain read it as religion.
I still wouldn’t call it a small region comparatively.
Ah I see your dyslexic! Fair play. Let me explain it simpler English for you.
They come from a small region of Pakistan in the vast majority.
True they are all mostly Islamic but the problem isn't one or the other but a combination of both culture and religion, that's religion not region
Really. Gonna be an asshole to someone who’s brain works in a slightly different way when it comes to reading? I’m dyslexic, not stupid. Being dyslexic doesn’t make someone stupid. Assuming that’s what it means, does make you ignorant however. Though your other comments already show that.
They also don’t all come from the same region, they were of Pakistani heritage, some were British.
Is culture and religion the reason for white males abusing women and children? What about catholic priests?
People are so horrified about what they think a religion is teaching about the acceptablility of abusing children or women, without actually looking into that religion in detail. ..
You are being an asshole to somebody who's brain works in a different way because I've got Asperger's.
I can't believe what a cunt your being even though I said I hadn't realised you were dyslexic
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