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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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What do you guys think about the TS profiles who’ve signed up as a women, for me it’s frustrating as there is a option open to choose TS / TV
Slowing my search down man ! |
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By *tonMessCouple
over a year ago
Slough Windsor ish |
"Surely there are not so many that they can be slowing your search?
The fact I search women and come across ts frustrates me also "
If they are identifiying as a woman it would suggest they are perhaps post op and therefore are now legally female. Whats your problem? And like I said, theyare so few and far between you would have to be pretty lucky to have found more than one in your search, depending on your search criteria.
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Thier are a number of pre op and transition ts girls who are set as women and this to me is just fine. However you will find from time to time TVs like myself who also chose to set thier profile as a woman and this is clearly wrong |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thier are a number of pre op and transition ts girls who are set as women and this to me is just fine. However you will find from time to time TVs like myself who also chose to set thier profile as a woman and this is clearly wrong "
I think it's misleading for a mtf pre op person to set their profile as a woman. Hopefully they'd explain clearly in the text though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thier are a number of pre op and transition ts girls who are set as women and this to me is just fine. However you will find from time to time TVs like myself who also chose to set thier profile as a woman and this is clearly wrong
I think it's misleading for a mtf pre op person to set their profile as a woman. Hopefully they'd explain clearly in the text though."
I'd like to suggest a new category, "Dixie Chick", to denote 'woman with a penis'.
Some of them even have female penises* (Don't ask me how that works but I've been assured it does). |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thier are a number of pre op and transition ts girls who are set as women and this to me is just fine. However you will find from time to time TVs like myself who also chose to set thier profile as a woman and this is clearly wrong
I think it's misleading for a mtf pre op person to set their profile as a woman. Hopefully they'd explain clearly in the text though.
I'd like to suggest a new category, "Dixie Chick", to denote 'woman with a penis'.
Some of them even have female penises* (Don't ask me how that works but I've been assured it does)."
How does that work? 
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's the age we live in unfortunately - world's gone mad. A certain person who works at a certain public sector place has decided they are "gender fluid" i.e. he/she decides whether he is a male or female from day to day (i.e. how they feel). So, colleagues then have to refer to him/her as Patrick or Patricia depending on his/her gender fluidity. You may think this is a joke - it isn't and shows how mad the world has gone. The employer concerned holds it up as a perfect example of gender equality.
Perfect fuckin tossers more like. P.S. I/we like T girls x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Thier are a number of pre op and transition ts girls who are set as women and this to me is just fine. However you will find from time to time TVs like myself who also chose to set thier profile as a woman and this is clearly wrong
I think it's misleading for a mtf pre op person to set their profile as a woman. Hopefully they'd explain clearly in the text though.
I'd like to suggest a new category, "Dixie Chick", to denote 'woman with a penis'.
Some of them even have female penises* (Don't ask me how that works but I've been assured it does).
How does that work?
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No idea.  |
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If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are. Gender is in the brain. They might have unconventionally configured genitals, but that is purely between them, their doctor, and anyone they choose as a sexual partner. They may or may not share that information wider, but no one has the right to demand it of them. Read the works of Julia Serano, she explains for more eloquently than I ever could. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are."
Yes.All that is needed, to be anything you want to be, is to say you are that thing.
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If someone is transgendered and has gender dysphoria why shouldn't they be women on here? If you chat to them or see it clearly in their profile and its not for you..... Move on.
"It's the age we live in unfortunately - world's gone mad. A certain person who works at a certain public sector place has decided they are "gender fluid" i.e. he/she decides whether he is a male or female from day to day (i.e. how they feel). So, colleagues then have to refer to him/her as Patrick or Patricia depending on his/her gender fluidity. You may think this is a joke - it isn't and shows how mad the world has gone. The employer concerned holds it up as a perfect example of gender equality.
Perfect fuckin tossers more like. P.S. I/we like T girls x"
Its not the world gone mad its that we are becoming more liberal/developed and people can be who they want to.
Who are you to judge what is mad or not? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its not the world gone mad its that we are becoming more liberal/developed and people can be who they want to.
Who are you to judge what is mad or not? "
Well, I`m mad - so that makes me an expert on madness
Im sorry - I fully appreciate transgender issues but the gender fluid example I quoted (and have now started a thread on) is mad beyond madness - this has to stop somewhere - otherwise if I say "I am an octopus" - does that make me an octopus because I think it (as someone has said) or does it make me mad? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its not the world gone mad its that we are becoming more liberal/developed and people can be who they want to.
Who are you to judge what is mad or not?
Well, I`m mad - so that makes me an expert on madness
Im sorry - I fully appreciate transgender issues but the gender fluid example I quoted (and have now started a thread on) is mad beyond madness - this has to stop somewhere - otherwise if I say "I am an octopus" - does that make me an octopus because I think it (as someone has said) or does it make me mad?"
You certainly aren't the mad one! |
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are.
Yes.All that is needed, to be anything you want to be, is to say you are that thing.
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I'm a woman  well part of a woman anyway everyone calls me a cunt so that must qualify |
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This is a minefield, I am classed as a female on my driver license but prefer to put TS on here as it would lead to slot of confusion. Just to add, I am not knocking anyone, it all depends on lots of things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The Ops issue would seem to be that when he goes searching for the penis-less,he often encounters the penis-ed and he feels deceived by them.
I'm not sure showing him a drivers licence or any other document would comfort him. |
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are.
Yes.All that is needed, to be anything you want to be, is to say you are that thing.
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So if I say I’m a horse - then I’m a horse?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are.
Yes.All that is needed, to be anything you want to be, is to say you are that thing.
So if I say I’m a horse - then I’m a horse? "
Yep,that's all it takes.  |
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"The Ops issue would seem to be that when he goes searching for the penis-less,he often encounters the penis-ed and he feels deceived by them.
I'm not sure showing him a drivers licence or any other document would comfort him."
I am definitely not trying to appease him or anybody else for that matter, just stating my situation. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Personally, I say very early on in my profile that I’m trans.
If that’s a problem. Move on. Block me. Whatever.
I was listed as tv/ts for years and was treated as a tv by most.
As a transitioning female, fab recognises me as female and I like that. I don’t pretend or try to fool people. I’m honest as to who I am.
I make up a very very small part of the population so I’m pretty sure I don’t slow the ops search down very much. |
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"I think fab REALLY need to split the Tv and TS profiles. That’ll be a major help"
It might help, but it is a grey area about exactly where many of us lie. And we can move around on that line, not just forwards but also backwards. We could have 20 different graduations, but then we'd get really pissed about having to start a new profile if we changed our position a bit.
The current situation where we get to declare just tv/ts, then can explain more in our profile text is not perfect but is at least fairly simple.
If it inconveniences the OP, he could just blanket block all tv/ts, as if it makes that much difference to him exactly how feminine one of us is, and what surgery we might have had, he'll be doing us a favour by stopping looking at us. Polly xx |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally, I say very early on in my profile that I’m trans.
If that’s a problem. Move on. Block me. Whatever.
I was listed as tv/ts for years and was treated as a tv by most.
As a transitioning female, fab recognises me as female and I like that. I don’t pretend or try to fool people. I’m honest as to who I am.
I make up a very very small part of the population so I’m pretty sure I don’t slow the ops search down very much. "
Your arse pic makes it very hard. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think fab REALLY need to split the Tv and TS profiles. That’ll be a major help
It might help, but it is a grey area about exactly where many of us lie. And we can move around on that line, not just forwards but also backwards. We could have 20 different graduations, but then we'd get really pissed about having to start a new profile if we changed our position a bit.
The current situation where we get to declare just tv/ts, then can explain more in our profile text is not perfect but is at least fairly simple.
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If it inconveniences the OP, he could just blanket block all tv/ts, as if it makes that much difference to him exactly how feminine one of us is, and what surgery we might have had, he'll be doing us a favour by stopping looking at us. Polly xx"
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But that's just the point he's making. He isn't looking for tv/ts, he's looking for women. |
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So much prejudice on this site , honestly don’t know why people care so much about other people’s lives.
OP seriously you aren’t slowed down by searching , your using that as a veil to show your intolerance . |
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What I find sad on this site is you're accused of every type of phobia/ism/shaming if you dare stick your head above the parapet and state what you like if it doesn't fit in with "recognised inclusive" thinking.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think fab REALLY need to split the Tv and TS profiles. That’ll be a major help"
People would still be able to decide for themselves which category to choose and, I'm sure, some people would still dispute some other peoples decisions.
Just reading a person's profile and finding out some facts about them is just toooo difficult, I suppose.
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are.
Yes.All that is needed, to be anything you want to be, is to say you are that thing.
So if I say I’m a horse - then I’m a horse? "
The fundamental flaw.with the "if someone says they are a woman they are" argument is that "woman" is an objective term. To mean anything. "woman" has to have a particular definition that includes some and excludes others.
Traditionally, that definition was a physical one, denoting an adult human being with a vagina, uterus etc. By all means propose a different definition, but that definition must still be objective which would, in principle, exclude some people who might subjectively assert they are women. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are.
Yes.All that is needed, to be anything you want to be, is to say you are that thing.
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I can't believe it, someone thought I intended sarcasm with that comment. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are. Gender is in the brain. They might have unconventionally configured genitals, but that is purely between them, their doctor, and anyone they choose as a sexual partner. They may or may not share that information wider, but no one has the right to demand it of them. Read the works of Julia Serano, she explains for more eloquently than I ever could."
No. Gender is what your born with my opinion |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I think fab REALLY need to split the Tv and TS profiles. That’ll be a major help
It might help, but it is a grey area about exactly where many of us lie. And we can move around on that line, not just forwards but also backwards. We could have 20 different graduations, but then we'd get really pissed about having to start a new profile if we changed our position a bit.
The current situation where we get to declare just tv/ts, then can explain more in our profile text is not perfect but is at least fairly simple.
If it inconveniences the OP, he could just blanket block all tv/ts, as if it makes that much difference to him exactly how feminine one of us is, and what surgery we might have had, he'll be doing us a favour by stopping looking at us. Polly xx"
Wasn’t looking at you was looking for women |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If a transgender person refers to themselves as a woman, then they are. Gender is in the brain. They might have unconventionally configured genitals, but that is purely between them, their doctor, and anyone they choose as a sexual partner. They may or may not share that information wider, but no one has the right to demand it of them. Read the works of Julia Serano, she explains for more eloquently than I ever could.
No. Gender is what your born with my opinion "
It is indeed. I was born female but my body wasn’t  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Personally, I say very early on in my profile that I’m trans.
If that’s a problem. Move on. Block me. Whatever.
I was listed as tv/ts for years and was treated as a tv by most.
As a transitioning female, fab recognises me as female and I like that. I don’t pretend or try to fool people. I’m honest as to who I am.
I make up a very very small part of the population so I’m pretty sure I don’t slow the ops search down very much.
Your arse pic makes it very hard. "
So I’m told  |
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"I think fab REALLY need to split the Tv and TS profiles. That’ll be a major help
It might help, but it is a grey area about exactly where many of us lie. And we can move around on that line, not just forwards but also backwards. We could have 20 different graduations, but then we'd get really pissed about having to start a new profile if we changed our position a bit.
The current situation where we get to declare just tv/ts, then can explain more in our profile text is not perfect but is at least fairly simple.
If it inconveniences the OP, he could just blanket block all tv/ts, as if it makes that much difference to him exactly how feminine one of us is, and what surgery we might have had, he'll be doing us a favour by stopping looking at us. Polly xx
Wasn’t looking at you was looking for women "
Just out of interest what do you do when you click on a “born a woman” profile you don’t fancy? Do you move on? Or a woman that states no black guys ? Do these same profiles also waste your time ? |
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