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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. "
Doesn't really follow because if religion was a guarantee of impeccable morals we wouldn't constantly have priests etc being done for the crimes that they are... |
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?
Churches and congregations. "
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?
Churches and congregations.
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Why the sad face. I'm not saying I believe in god just that its clear that religion exists because society has decided to agree tacitly that it does and has created a whole hierarchy of priests, buildings etc to back it up. |
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?
Churches and congregations.
Why the sad face. I'm not saying I believe in god just that its clear that religion exists because society has decided to agree tacitly that it does and has created a whole hierarchy of priests, buildings etc to back it up. "
Sad because it's not enough evidence..anyway good weekend? |
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?
Churches and congregations.
Why the sad face. I'm not saying I believe in god just that its clear that religion exists because society has decided to agree tacitly that it does and has created a whole hierarchy of priests, buildings etc to back it up.
Sad because it's not enough evidence..anyway good weekend?"
Yes, not bad thanks, you? |
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?
Churches and congregations.
Why the sad face. I'm not saying I believe in god just that its clear that religion exists because society has decided to agree tacitly that it does and has created a whole hierarchy of priests, buildings etc to back it up.
Sad because it's not enough evidence..anyway good weekend?
Yes, not bad thanks, you?"
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I personally think all religion was created to control the masses. some dudes thought up their ideals then created mass fear to get the population to blindly follow...clever really |
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I'm a freethinker, or aim to be.
I don't believe in religion - but believe it exists for the purpose of social cohesion.
I don't believe in atheism - because I consider people like Dawkins to be co-religionists to the Christians they claim to be oppositional to. There are too many similarities for it to be chance.
If you are talking about whether there is a Creator - then I am agnostic, otherwise I hold religion and secularism as both being suspect. Religion claims to be moral - yet is not, Secularism claims to be rational - yet is not.
This may make me sound disagreeable, or high and mighty - but really I'm just saying I don't think anybody's found the One True Path because it doesn't exist.
What we have instead is an ecology, whether we think we part of it or not we are affected by it.
The only question then is "what is best", and evidently it is possible for any idealogy to have 'bad modes', 'good modes' and 'failure modes'.
If we believe in civilization aka organization as being a moral and rational objective - which I do - then it means we should optimize as best we are able instead of searching for an ultimate solution to everything.
I think we know that joining cannibal biker gangs is a bad thing, and that developing technology that saves on energy bills is a good thing. The good news is that in my philosophy if you happen to be wrong, you ultimately get offed since the buck finally stops with natural selection.
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There's zero evidence for a God that exists outside human minds, concerns itself with what humans do and can intervene in the world. Hence I conclude such a being does not exist.
However, clearly the idea of God does exist within human minds and is a powerful motivatiing force to many people. |
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"Secularism claims to be rational - yet is not.
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Maybe you mean atheism. Secularism means government should not contain religion, not that there should be no religion for anyone.
Plenty of religious people are secularists because they recognise that religion should be personal, not for telling others what to do. And that is entirely rational. |
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I believe in religion because it is a thing.
I'm spiritual and think all religions are kinda saying the same thing: be a good person and you will be rewarded. They all have a form of meditation or prayer to calm the mind and essentially teach people to be good. But as with everything in this world, people have ruined it. I'm not pro-religion but the original bible is really interesting. What's not interesting about a load of people tripping in the desert? Like a really old fear and loathing in Las Vegas
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Personally I was brought up C of E....obviously, and I appreciate religion offers a lot of people in the world comfort, hope and belonging. Personally...I'm not a big fan...through History and Beyond Organised Religions have been the source, the cause and the excuse for a lot of horrible inexcusable things that have happened in the world, I'm all for peace & love regardless  |
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"There's zero evidence for a God that exists outside human minds, concerns itself with what humans do and can intervene in the world. Hence I conclude such a being does not exist.
However, clearly the idea of God does exist within human minds and is a powerful motivatiing force to many people. "
I would argue that god does exist in the way it was originally written down. God is just another way at looking at consciousness. You talk to god is you talking to yourself. Ancient Hebrew is so hard to translate because it uses math. Loads cannot be understood and that which can, is madness anyway because they were tripping. I don't believe in the god floating on a cloud judging folk. But I do believe that the original writers were on to the same thing shamen were doing in Brazil and Peru |
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"Personally I was brought up C of E....obviously, and I appreciate religion offers a lot of people in the world comfort, hope and belonging. Personally...I'm not a big fan...through History and Beyond Organised Religions have been the source, the cause and the excuse for a lot of horrible inexcusable things that have happened in the world, I'm all for peace & love regardless "
Jesus is not into religion?!! Can't say i'm surprised really |
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"I'm a freethinker, or aim to be.
I don't believe in religion - but believe it exists for the purpose of social cohesion.
I don't believe in atheism - because I consider people like Dawkins to be co-religionists to the Christians they claim to be oppositional to. There are too many similarities for it to be chance.
If you are talking about whether there is a Creator - then I am agnostic, otherwise I hold religion and secularism as both being suspect. Religion claims to be moral - yet is not, Secularism claims to be rational - yet is not.
This may make me sound disagreeable, or high and mighty - but really I'm just saying I don't think anybody's found the One True Path because it doesn't exist.
What we have instead is an ecology, whether we think we part of it or not we are affected by it.
The only question then is "what is best", and evidently it is possible for any idealogy to have 'bad modes', 'good modes' and 'failure modes'.
If we believe in civilization aka organization as being a moral and rational objective - which I do - then it means we should optimize as best we are able instead of searching for an ultimate solution to everything.
I think we know that joining cannibal biker gangs is a bad thing, and that developing technology that saves on energy bills is a good thing. The good news is that in my philosophy if you happen to be wrong, you ultimately get offed since the buck finally stops with natural selection.
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We would get on like a house on fire....  |
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"I personally think all religion was created to control the masses. some dudes thought up their ideals then created mass fear to get the population to blindly follow...clever really "
For me exactly that but are people who believe happier even though they may live a less sexually diverse life? Apart from the priests of course.. |
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Obviously I believe in religion or there wouldn't be millions of people that follow it, so religion exists.
Do I believe they are correct? Hell no. I think it's a load of codswallop that offers people hope when things are tough. I think it's Chinese whispers tailored to suit. I also think it's a way to make money and rip people off. However, I don't know if I'm right or wrong. People believe what they want, as long as they don't try to preach to me or attempt to shove it down my throat then let them believe. If it makes them a better person having hope, let them believe.
I don't bow to anyone, dead or alive. I was taught right from wrong and that there are consequences to actions. I have a conscience that works perfectly well, and as long as I can hold my head up high, that's good enough for me. |
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I'm going to sit here, in the corner, under the spotlight losing my religion
I find the idea that so many people pray to, worship and have their lives guided by some 'higher being' they have never seen amusing.
Some folk are selective with it, do you feel better? Enhanced?
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. "
I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
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"I'm a freethinker, or aim to be.
I don't believe in religion - but believe it exists for the purpose of social cohesion.
I don't believe in atheism - because I consider people like Dawkins to be co-religionists to the Christians they claim to be oppositional to. There are too many similarities for it to be chance.
If you are talking about whether there is a Creator - then I am agnostic, otherwise I hold religion and secularism as both being suspect. Religion claims to be moral - yet is not, Secularism claims to be rational - yet is not.
This may make me sound disagreeable, or high and mighty - but really I'm just saying I don't think anybody's found the One True Path because it doesn't exist.
What we have instead is an ecology, whether we think we part of it or not we are affected by it.
The only question then is "what is best", and evidently it is possible for any idealogy to have 'bad modes', 'good modes' and 'failure modes'.
If we believe in civilization aka organization as being a moral and rational objective - which I do - then it means we should optimize as best we are able instead of searching for an ultimate solution to everything.
I think we know that joining cannibal biker gangs is a bad thing, and that developing technology that saves on energy bills is a good thing. The good news is that in my philosophy if you happen to be wrong, you ultimately get offed since the buck finally stops with natural selection.
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Mmmmmm. Do you know what.............i think that's nearly one of the most sensible statements i've ever read on any forum concerning religion |
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I believe that just because we cannot see something doesn’t mean it isn’t real. I believe in the “universe”, not a god developed by people. People need a figure to worship and that’s fine, I don’t need that though!
I believe in the energies we interact with and put out. It’s an interesting question! |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
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You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
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I'm an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac.
I often lay awake all night wondering if the really is a Dog.."
The answer is of course..........is the Dog laying over your feet ? If yes, then of course there's a Dog  |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
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It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else . |
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over a year ago
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?"
There are loads of books, buildings, people get paid for it and everything.  |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else . "
Obviously you're perfectly at liberty to believe whatever you like but I have never understood how it's possible to believe something exists whilst at the same time knowing at the same time that there good reason to believe it exists, even if the belief does make you feel good.
I mean, it would make me feel good to believe that Kylie Minogue has a massive crush on me, but as there is no evidence that she does, I don't believe it. |
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?
There are loads of books, buildings, people get paid for it and everything. "
Yup
Scientology has all of those |
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"I believe religion exists because I can see the evidence. I don't follow one, I was put off that by my childhood experiences
What evidence?
There are loads of books, buildings, people get paid for it and everything.
Yup
Scientology has all of those "
It does, it is a religion after all. |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else .
Obviously you're perfectly at liberty to believe whatever you like but I have never understood how it's possible to believe something exists whilst at the same time knowing at the same time that there good reason to believe it exists, even if the belief does make you feel good.
I mean, it would make me feel good to believe that Kylie Minogue has a massive crush on me, but as there is no evidence that she does, I don't believe it. "
I don’t recall the name of the film but basically a newspaper reporter ( a prize winner from the USA ) was asked to do a story proving the story if Christianity was a load of tosh . So he went at it as a reporter would , working on the precept that it wouldn’t take long to prove the crucifucation was a hoax , that the rising after being crucified was a hoax , and so on . Anyway , after realising that every Christian story he tried to refute was irrefutable he gave up and accepted that he couldn’t prove it didn’t happen . He became a minister and a Christian writer as well as a respected journalist . |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else .
Obviously you're perfectly at liberty to believe whatever you like but I have never understood how it's possible to believe something exists whilst at the same time knowing at the same time that there good reason to believe it exists, even if the belief does make you feel good.
I mean, it would make me feel good to believe that Kylie Minogue has a massive crush on me, but as there is no evidence that she does, I don't believe it.
I don’t recall the name of the film but basically a newspaper reporter ( a prize winner from the USA ) was asked to do a story proving the story if Christianity was a load of tosh . So he went at it as a reporter would , working on the precept that it wouldn’t take long to prove the crucifucation was a hoax , that the rising after being crucified was a hoax , and so on . Anyway , after realising that every Christian story he tried to refute was irrefutable he gave up and accepted that he couldn’t prove it didn’t happen . He became a minister and a Christian writer as well as a respected journalist ."
It's actually virtually impossible to disprove anything. Jesus may well have been crucified. Lots of people were around that time. Given that there is zero proper evidence that anyone has ever risen from the dead and given that the stories that Jesus did were written many years later by non eye witnesses, it's vanishingly unlikely the resurrection happened. |
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"I believe and respect the right of others to have religious based belief systems for whatever reasons they choose but don't personally subscribe to any myself "
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Respect is earned never given arbitrarily.
I'll be dammed if I ever have to respect somebody for holding idiotic unproven and malicious beliefs |
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It's like saying I demand respect for my firmly held beliefs in the KKK way of life.... Errr no, you can hold those beliefs but I don't and never should have to respect them |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else .
Obviously you're perfectly at liberty to believe whatever you like but I have never understood how it's possible to believe something exists whilst at the same time knowing at the same time that there good reason to believe it exists, even if the belief does make you feel good.
I mean, it would make me feel good to believe that Kylie Minogue has a massive crush on me, but as there is no evidence that she does, I don't believe it.
I don’t recall the name of the film but basically a newspaper reporter ( a prize winner from the USA ) was asked to do a story proving the story if Christianity was a load of tosh . So he went at it as a reporter would , working on the precept that it wouldn’t take long to prove the crucifucation was a hoax , that the rising after being crucified was a hoax , and so on . Anyway , after realising that every Christian story he tried to refute was irrefutable he gave up and accepted that he couldn’t prove it didn’t happen . He became a minister and a Christian writer as well as a respected journalist .
It's actually virtually impossible to disprove anything. Jesus may well have been crucified. Lots of people were around that time. Given that there is zero proper evidence that anyone has ever risen from the dead and given that the stories that Jesus did were written many years later by non eye witnesses, it's vanishingly unlikely the resurrection happened. "
That’s exactly what he thought when he entered into the contract to prove the resurrection and so many other things didn’t happen .
Problem was that the harder he looked , the more apparent it was that they did ..... |
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"Religion?
Nah sorry my brain works, saw straight through that crap
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Are you insinuating that anyone who is religious has a brain that doesn't work? Or is naive or stupid? |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else .
Obviously you're perfectly at liberty to believe whatever you like but I have never understood how it's possible to believe something exists whilst at the same time knowing at the same time that there good reason to believe it exists, even if the belief does make you feel good.
I mean, it would make me feel good to believe that Kylie Minogue has a massive crush on me, but as there is no evidence that she does, I don't believe it.
I don’t recall the name of the film but basically a newspaper reporter ( a prize winner from the USA ) was asked to do a story proving the story if Christianity was a load of tosh . So he went at it as a reporter would , working on the precept that it wouldn’t take long to prove the crucifucation was a hoax , that the rising after being crucified was a hoax , and so on . Anyway , after realising that every Christian story he tried to refute was irrefutable he gave up and accepted that he couldn’t prove it didn’t happen . He became a minister and a Christian writer as well as a respected journalist .
It's actually virtually impossible to disprove anything. Jesus may well have been crucified. Lots of people were around that time. Given that there is zero proper evidence that anyone has ever risen from the dead and given that the stories that Jesus did were written many years later by non eye witnesses, it's vanishingly unlikely the resurrection happened.
That’s exactly what he thought when he entered into the contract to prove the resurrection and so many other things didn’t happen .
Problem was that the harder he looked , the more apparent it was that they did ..... "
Well if you are prepared to accept that people can rise from the dead despite unanimous scientific evidence that they can't and based on some 2000 year old texts then you will believe anything I suppose.
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else .
Obviously you're perfectly at liberty to believe whatever you like but I have never understood how it's possible to believe something exists whilst at the same time knowing at the same time that there good reason to believe it exists, even if the belief does make you feel good.
I mean, it would make me feel good to believe that Kylie Minogue has a massive crush on me, but as there is no evidence that she does, I don't believe it.
I don’t recall the name of the film but basically a newspaper reporter ( a prize winner from the USA ) was asked to do a story proving the story if Christianity was a load of tosh . So he went at it as a reporter would , working on the precept that it wouldn’t take long to prove the crucifucation was a hoax , that the rising after being crucified was a hoax , and so on . Anyway , after realising that every Christian story he tried to refute was irrefutable he gave up and accepted that he couldn’t prove it didn’t happen . He became a minister and a Christian writer as well as a respected journalist .
It's actually virtually impossible to disprove anything. Jesus may well have been crucified. Lots of people were around that time. Given that there is zero proper evidence that anyone has ever risen from the dead and given that the stories that Jesus did were written many years later by non eye witnesses, it's vanishingly unlikely the resurrection happened.
That’s exactly what he thought when he entered into the contract to prove the resurrection and so many other things didn’t happen .
Problem was that the harder he looked , the more apparent it was that they did .....
Well if you are prepared to accept that people can rise from the dead despite unanimous scientific evidence that they can't and based on some 2000 year old texts then you will believe anything I suppose.
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The film was called The case for Christ ... worth a watch . |
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By *entenTeaCouple
over a year ago
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We have met people with a variety of beliefs and attitudes at clubs. For us it is important that we don't pretend about our beliefs so we state we are Christians in our profile. We tend to find while many people are put off by religeon (often quite understandably so). There is still an acceptance of, and engagement with, faith and spirituality.
We have prayed with and engaged spiritually with other Christian swingers. |
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"We have met people with a variety of beliefs and attitudes at clubs. For us it is important that we don't pretend about our beliefs so we state we are Christians in our profile. We tend to find while many people are put off by religeon (often quite understandably so). There is still an acceptance of, and engagement with, faith and spirituality.
We have prayed with and engaged spiritually with other Christian swingers."
Now I would pay to see that............ |
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By *entenTeaCouple
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"We have met people with a variety of beliefs and attitudes at clubs. For us it is important that we don't pretend about our beliefs so we state we are Christians in our profile. We tend to find while many people are put off by religeon (often quite understandably so). There is still an acceptance of, and engagement with, faith and spirituality.
We have prayed with and engaged spiritually with other Christian swingers.
Now I would pay to see that............"
An offering might be more appropriate |
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Religion is based on some higher being a god or diety who demands to be adored and worshipped. I read this an article this evening that the Hubble space telescope has captured evidence of two galaxies colliding at a distance of 320 million light years from Mother Earth.
Now for those who have faith this celestial event maybe their god having a massive fart. However I somehow doubt it.
Religion is the opium of the masses. It dulls reasoned and intellectual thought. It causes human kind to undertake inhuman acts in its name.
So I am forming a religion where everyone has to wear yellow socks eat marmite sandwiches and dye your hair green.
It really is absurd as that.
As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife? |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose."
Or coveted thy neighbours wife
Or fuck thy neighbours oxen
Or is it the other way round? |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose."
You fuck another’s hubby or wife |
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"Religion is based on some higher being a god or diety who demands to be adored and worshipped. I read this an article this evening that the Hubble space telescope has captured evidence of two galaxies colliding at a distance of 320 million light years from Mother Earth.
Now for those who have faith this celestial event maybe their god having a massive fart. However I somehow doubt it.
Religion is the opium of the masses. It dulls reasoned and intellectual thought. It causes human kind to undertake inhuman acts in its name.
So I am forming a religion where everyone has to wear yellow socks eat marmite sandwiches and dye your hair green.
It really is absurd as that.
As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?"
Prove it's not a fart |
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"Or are most swingers agnostic or atheist because more religious folk would think we are immoral. I believe in some sort of religion , albeit not any specific one .
I’m not ashamed to admit that there have been times that this belief has helped me , in much the same way it has for so many other believers over the generations .
I accept that organised religion is responsible for much of the war and strife too . I also accept it can’t be proven , but as I recall from a recent film I watched , it can’t be disproven either .
You also can't disprove the. Statement that an invisible pink elephant lives in my back garden but that's not a good reason for believing one does.
It is a good reason to believe in the said invisible pink elephant if it enhances my life and doesn’t hurt anyone else .
Obviously you're perfectly at liberty to believe whatever you like but I have never understood how it's possible to believe something exists whilst at the same time knowing at the same time that there good reason to believe it exists, even if the belief does make you feel good.
I mean, it would make me feel good to believe that Kylie Minogue has a massive crush on me, but as there is no evidence that she does, I don't believe it.
I don’t recall the name of the film but basically a newspaper reporter ( a prize winner from the USA ) was asked to do a story proving the story if Christianity was a load of tosh . So he went at it as a reporter would , working on the precept that it wouldn’t take long to prove the crucifucation was a hoax , that the rising after being crucified was a hoax , and so on . Anyway , after realising that every Christian story he tried to refute was irrefutable he gave up and accepted that he couldn’t prove it didn’t happen . He became a minister and a Christian writer as well as a respected journalist .
It's actually virtually impossible to disprove anything. Jesus may well have been crucified. Lots of people were around that time. Given that there is zero proper evidence that anyone has ever risen from the dead and given that the stories that Jesus did were written many years later by non eye witnesses, it's vanishingly unlikely the resurrection happened. "
People have been declared dead when they weren't. Many such cases where people have been found still breathing in the morgue. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife"
But clearly some people interpret it differently. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently."
Clearly but Christian Swingers is a contradiction in terms? |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently."
For us it would be wrong if we did it with deceit. We are honest and open with each other and clear about our feelings. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
Clearly but Christian Swingers is a contradiction in terms?"
Nope. Apparently the original bible had nothing in it about monogamy. |
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"I'm a freethinker, or aim to be.
I don't believe in religion - but believe it exists for the purpose of social cohesion.
I don't believe in atheism - because I consider people like Dawkins to be co-religionists to the Christians they claim to be oppositional to. There are too many similarities for it to be chance.
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I agree with you there! |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
Clearly but Christian Swingers is a contradiction in terms?"
there is much about practising Christians that is contradictory. I'm of the opinion that if there's no harm in your intent then you're ok. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
Clearly but Christian Swingers is a contradiction in terms?
Nope. Apparently the original bible had nothing in it about monogamy. "
Yes, but polyamory is not the same as promiscuity. The major religions may teach you should commit to one woman, or to several, but none of them say you can have any woman you like. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
For us it would be wrong if we did it with deceit. We are honest and open with each other and clear about our feelings."
I don't think you need to justify yourselves. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
Clearly but Christian Swingers is a contradiction in terms?
Nope. Apparently the original bible had nothing in it about monogamy.
Yes, but polyamory is not the same as promiscuity. The major religions may teach you should commit to one woman, or to several, but none of them say you can have any woman you like."
Interesting hypothesis and I would be interested to hear a definition of promiscuity? |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
For us it would be wrong if we did it with deceit. We are honest and open with each other and clear about our feelings.
I don't think you need to justify yourselves. "
No not at all each to their own or someone eless |
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Nope, I was brought up in a church of England school believing in all that (indoctrination, catch 'em young!) but binned off any beliefs in fairy tales and sky pixies once I got into my teens. I'd consider myself atheist/humanist now. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
Clearly but Christian Swingers is a contradiction in terms?
Nope. Apparently the original bible had nothing in it about monogamy.
Yes, but polyamory is not the same as promiscuity. The major religions may teach you should commit to one woman, or to several, but none of them say you can have any woman you like.
Interesting hypothesis and I would be interested to hear a definition of promiscuity?"
Do you not have google? I simply mean 'Having sex with multiple partners on a casual basis'. None of the major religions condone sex outside of some kind of commitment. |
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As for the Christian swingers what happened to thou shalt not shag thy neighbours wife?
Thou shalt not commit adultery?
It depends how you interpret adultery I suppose.
You fuck another’s hubby or wife
But clearly some people interpret it differently.
For us it would be wrong if we did it with deceit. We are honest and open with each other and clear about our feelings.
I don't think you need to justify yourselves. "
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I think anybody that holds whacky beliefs always try to justify them in someway, it's no different to these flat earthers always trying to justify there crazyness and also covert you to their crazyness |
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I never have or will be religious.
I find it hilarious that religious folk call consenting adults immoral and yet we all know what priests have done to little kids and the bible is full of immoral acts towards women... you know ones beginning with R.
But I'm immoral cause I'm having consensual sex. Honestly it's astonishing that religion seems to be the biggest hypocrite when it comes to "sin" and immoral acts.
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..... so sex has nothing to do with religion. 
