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"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. " Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex. | |||
"My long term partner said it, casually, during a WhatsApp conversation. Then he told me to not have a melt down. I wasn't, but it took me a minute to read and take it in. We're still seeing each other and it hasn't changed anything. Another buddy declared his love for me quite near the beginning of our relationship. It's not changed anything, so far. " Well I'm glad you understand what I mean. | |||
"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex." Does she know that you don't class it as a relationship? | |||
"You meet 5 or 6 times a week... Yet your surprised it's developed into more for at least one of you.. Shakes head in total bemusement ![]() I thought the same ![]() | |||
"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex." Relationships come in all different forms. Not all couples go out on dates etc. 5/6 times a week is a lot of time to spend together for a casual thing so it's probably not surprising that feelings have developed. | |||
"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex. Does she know that you don't class it as a relationship?" She absolutely does. She said what we have is fun and what she's needed after being in a boring relationship with her ex and although she didn't want to get close to someone she has fallen for me even though she knows I don't see her in that way. We were both honest with eachother. | |||
"My long term partner said it, casually, during a WhatsApp conversation. Then he told me to not have a melt down. I wasn't, but it took me a minute to read and take it in. We're still seeing each other and it hasn't changed anything. Another buddy declared his love for me quite near the beginning of our relationship. It's not changed anything, so far. Well I'm glad you understand what I mean." If you mean you just want the sex, without anything else, you should make it clear to her. Both my friends are clear that I'm not after a boyfriend or husband in the foreseeable future. Ive been seeing my long term partner just for sex for 8 years. He doesn't want a relationship either, and if he did, it wouldn't be with me. | |||
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"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex. Does she know that you don't class it as a relationship? She absolutely does. She said what we have is fun and what she's needed after being in a boring relationship with her ex and although she didn't want to get close to someone she has fallen for me even though she knows I don't see her in that way. We were both honest with eachother." I believe that having feelings for someone makes the sex better. | |||
"My long term partner said it, casually, during a WhatsApp conversation. Then he told me to not have a melt down. I wasn't, but it took me a minute to read and take it in. We're still seeing each other and it hasn't changed anything. Another buddy declared his love for me quite near the beginning of our relationship. It's not changed anything, so far. Well I'm glad you understand what I mean. If you mean you just want the sex, without anything else, you should make it clear to her. Both my friends are clear that I'm not after a boyfriend or husband in the foreseeable future. Ive been seeing my long term partner just for sex for 8 years. He doesn't want a relationship either, and if he did, it wouldn't be with me. " We've both made our feelings clear and she knows we'll never be together as in a couple. | |||
"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex. Does she know that you don't class it as a relationship? She absolutely does. She said what we have is fun and what she's needed after being in a boring relationship with her ex and although she didn't want to get close to someone she has fallen for me even though she knows I don't see her in that way. We were both honest with eachother." I think when you see each other that often, it's likely that feelings will develop. You see each other more than a lot of couples in a relationship do. Have you decided what you are going to do OP? | |||
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"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex. Does she know that you don't class it as a relationship? She absolutely does. She said what we have is fun and what she's needed after being in a boring relationship with her ex and although she didn't want to get close to someone she has fallen for me even though she knows I don't see her in that way. We were both honest with eachother. I think when you see each other that often, it's likely that feelings will develop. You see each other more than a lot of couples in a relationship do. Have you decided what you are going to do OP? " Yes we see eachother 5/6 times a week but not for a lengthy period of time. A couple could spend spend 3 or 4 nights a week together but we literally have sex and head off. We have agreed to carry on as we are for now. Luckily for us there's no awkwardness etc | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest" I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest" All of the above makes so much sense. Thanks hun. | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it?" Me neither. Is it like the difference between living your family and loving your partner? I could never stop loving my children or grandchildren; I did my husband, who I was in love with. | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest" Yup, I have had 3 guys on here say they love me in different contexts - as long as everyone is open and honest it's fine in my view. ![]() | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it?" You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() | |||
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"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() So being in love is the deep and abiding affection and headrush infatuation is loving someone? Have I got that right? | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() No, I have friends I love, and I have that deep abiding affection for them. But if I fall in love with someone, I also get the head rush of excitement that I have found 'the one' lol! | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() This ![]() ![]() | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() Ok. I would say that I have a deep and abiding affection for Mr N. I would also say I'm in love with him. Realistically and he would agree the headrush of falling in love has evolved to a gentler glow of pleasure. I'm happy to accept that people can love someone but not be in love with them but I'm really struggling with the concept. | |||
"I had a couples profile with a woman who lives locally. We both have kids but but wanted sex and lots of it. We’d meet once or twice a week to visit clubs where she could be a greedy girl as I selected guys to fuck her. We also has solo sessions at hers and hotels. At the outset we were both adamant it was going to be NSA and any deep feelings meant we would call it off. Now while I truly enjoyed selecting guys and being the last to play with her those feelings were of shared fun and fantasies realised. As time moved on it became obvious that being invited back to hers to lounge around in and out of the bedroom in varying degrees of nakedness brought those feelings back. We sat down, talked it through and decided to end it. Neither of us wanted the negative fallout on the other and people would ‘take sides’. She now has a great relationship with a new fella and my singles profile is a good six years old. You do what works for you two and good luck. MHG" Great advice. Thank you. | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() But you must have good friends, eg lifelong girlfriends, that you love, but are certainly not in love with? | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest" That makes sense to me. ![]() | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() I feel it's the opposite way round. | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() Yes. I can sort of understand now. I'm not sure I could apply that to someone I was seeing regularly for sex. Maybe that's where I struggle and why I'd make a rubbish fwb. ![]() | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it?" I really actually can't explain it...I was totally in love with my last partner, until his death almost 3 years ago, and still am to an extent. All I can say is that it was totally different in everyway to anything I had felt before, I loved my husband before him but it never felt like it did with him. It was just more...I think if I could explain it I would be a very rich woman ![]() | |||
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"Last time someone said that to me I phoned a taxi and left. Only because I wasn't expecting it and didn't want it turning into anything as it probably was at the time a fwb thing that we had. We did go out for drinks and that tho so a bit different from what you have. It didn't change anything at all. Just kept going out for drinks and having amazing sex. Don't look too much into it. Just enjoy being friends and having a good time x" Thank you. A few early posters to this thread made it sound as though I should have expected this. It's encouraging to hear many others have experienced similar. | |||
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"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? I really actually can't explain it...I was totally in love with my last partner, until his death almost 3 years ago, and still am to an extent. All I can say is that it was totally different in everyway to anything I had felt before, I loved my husband before him but it never felt like it did with him. It was just more...I think if I could explain it I would be a very rich woman ![]() Thanks. I wonder if everyone has such varying ideas of what love is and how they feel it that everyone sees it differently. | |||
"I had a couples profile with a woman who lives locally. We both have kids but but wanted sex and lots of it. We’d meet once or twice a week to visit clubs where she could be a greedy girl as I selected guys to fuck her. We also has solo sessions at hers and hotels. At the outset we were both adamant it was going to be NSA and any deep feelings meant we would call it off. Now while I truly enjoyed selecting guys and being the last to play with her those feelings were of shared fun and fantasies realised. As time moved on it became obvious that being invited back to hers to lounge around in and out of the bedroom in varying degrees of nakedness brought those feelings back. We sat down, talked it through and decided to end it. Neither of us wanted the negative fallout on the other and people would ‘take sides’. She now has a great relationship with a new fella and my singles profile is a good six years old. You do what works for you two and good luck. MHG Great advice. Thank you." Glad you found it helpful. | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() ![]() Lol, I find them all different, according to the dynamic between us. I've had one or two that became extremely intense, but mostly they are just mates that I have a giggle with, and sex lol! I had a real headrush crush on someone on the dance circuit once, we never slept together and that side of it all died a natural death, but I developed a deep and abiding love for him as a friend, which was reciprocated. I know he will be my friend for life, and such people are a rare find IME. So many wonderful types of friend. ![]() | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? I really actually can't explain it...I was totally in love with my last partner, until his death almost 3 years ago, and still am to an extent. All I can say is that it was totally different in everyway to anything I had felt before, I loved my husband before him but it never felt like it did with him. It was just more...I think if I could explain it I would be a very rich woman ![]() Quite probably! All I know is that it was the most intense feeling and was amazing to know he felt the same too ![]() | |||
" Thanks. I wonder if everyone has such varying ideas of what love is and how they feel it that everyone sees it differently." As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder xx | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() ![]() ![]() Maybe we should be like the Greeks (or was it the Romans?) and have different words for different types of love. | |||
"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() ![]() ![]() Greeks - yes, phileo, brotherly love, storge, familial love, eros, sexual or romantic love, agape, altruistic love...I think there are others. | |||
"Last time someone said that to me I phoned a taxi and left. Only because I wasn't expecting it and didn't want it turning into anything as it probably was at the time a fwb thing that we had. We did go out for drinks and that tho so a bit different from what you have. It didn't change anything at all. Just kept going out for drinks and having amazing sex. Don't look too much into it. Just enjoy being friends and having a good time x Thank you. A few early posters to this thread made it sound as though I should have expected this. It's encouraging to hear many others have experienced similar." Not at all. You aren't always in the same place at the same time. You may love her back one day...you maybe never. Just go with the flow and enjoy what you have. You have however been seeing her for 9 months...enjoy her company and the sex is good. Oh and she loves you. Not a bad position to be in my friend lol x | |||
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"Last time someone said that to me I phoned a taxi and left. Only because I wasn't expecting it and didn't want it turning into anything as it probably was at the time a fwb thing that we had. We did go out for drinks and that tho so a bit different from what you have. It didn't change anything at all. Just kept going out for drinks and having amazing sex. Don't look too much into it. Just enjoy being friends and having a good time x Thank you. A few early posters to this thread made it sound as though I should have expected this. It's encouraging to hear many others have experienced similar. Not at all. You aren't always in the same place at the same time. You may love her back one day...you maybe never. Just go with the flow and enjoy what you have. You have however been seeing her for 9 months...enjoy her company and the sex is good. Oh and she loves you. Not a bad position to be in my friend lol x" Thanks, that's really helpful x | |||
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"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex. Relationships come in all different forms. Not all couples go out on dates etc. 5/6 times a week is a lot of time to spend together for a casual thing so it's probably not surprising that feelings have developed. " Exactly this Miss | |||
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"Just be careful. If she is in love with you she may accept anything you say to keep seeing you... and thats not fair on her ur you genuinely have no desire to love her. Many people compromise themselves to keep someone in their life and u have to also take ownership of your part in that. Saying "but i told her" isnt enough. If you see she is truly wants nore than u theb end it. Let her find love with someone who will love her back. An example of this is married people having affairs.. the single person hangs on and hangs on in the hope something will change. Ir doesnt and they are hurt and have wasted yrs of their life and love on someone who knew they could never love them the way they deserve. " ![]() | |||
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"Honestly, that sounds to me like a relationship... just without the title. My advice would be to be honest with yourself and with her about how you feel. If you don't love her, and you don't see the relationship progressing... she needs to know that so she can decide what action to take. Thanks for the honest advice. I probably wouldn't class it as a relationship myself as we never go out, meals, drinks etc. The only time we have a drink is either at hers or mine before and/or after sex." Agree with the advice given and would add that you are seeing each other possibly a similar amount of time that some in relationships do.. shift work, people working away etc.. pretty much sounds like more than a fwb relationship.. | |||
"I always think its a bit of a shame though when two single people love each other (in whatever form of love they have) and dont just go with it. If the only other choice is you splitting up to stop it developing further, why not just try the being in love for a bit first anyway. " ![]() ![]() | |||
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"I always think its a bit of a shame though when two single people love each other (in whatever form of love they have) and dont just go with it. If the only other choice is you splitting up to stop it developing further, why not just try the being in love for a bit first anyway. " Me too. However on thinking about it I realised that we all think of being in love as a good thing and that if we are we should go along with it. Is it always good though? What if I met someone three months before I was going to move to Australia and they were going to America and we fell in love? Would it be better to have a three month relationship or walk away? I know myself and I know I'd go for the relationship but that doesn't make it right for everyone. | |||
"I always think its a bit of a shame though when two single people love each other (in whatever form of love they have) and dont just go with it. If the only other choice is you splitting up to stop it developing further, why not just try the being in love for a bit first anyway. Me too. However on thinking about it I realised that we all think of being in love as a good thing and that if we are we should go along with it. Is it always good though? What if I met someone three months before I was going to move to Australia and they were going to America and we fell in love? Would it be better to have a three month relationship or walk away? I know myself and I know I'd go for the relationship but that doesn't make it right for everyone." I believe it’s better to have experienced love regardless of the outcome. I don’t regret the times I have as they were special. Some things are not meant to last but I wouldn’t change a thing. ![]() | |||
"Just be careful. If she is in love with you she may accept anything you say to keep seeing you... and thats not fair on her ur you genuinely have no desire to love her. Many people compromise themselves to keep someone in their life and u have to also take ownership of your part in that. Saying "but i told her" isnt enough. If you see she is truly wants nore than u theb end it. Let her find love with someone who will love her back. An example of this is married people having affairs.. the single person hangs on and hangs on in the hope something will change. Ir doesnt and they are hurt and have wasted yrs of their life and love on someone who knew they could never love them the way they deserve. " Well said. . . "FUN" works when its on a level playing field. It isn't as if this is a 5-minute wonder you've enjoyed between you and can walk away no harm done, after this amount of time together, sorry to say OP, that its up to you take responsibility beyond 'saying the words' that you feel exonerate you . . . its simple, eventually the feelings that you dont share, or reciprocate, as in her love, will end in heartbreak and tears. You sound like you're a decent concerned guy to have sought advice today - but deep down, I think you know what you must do, as much as the relationship (because that's what it is) and great sex will be the collateral damage. It can and does happen all the time, and sure, we miss it, but sometimes you have to take that hit for the peace of mind. | |||
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"I told my fwb when we first started getting very regular that I would love him and that if that was not ok then we would need to stop seeing eachother as often, possibly all together. He said that was fine and that he would love me too...we both love eachother a great deal, which makes the sex bloody amazing, aswell as enjoying eachothers company and being great friends, we are just not in love with eachother. If you find someone that agrees on boundaries then having an fwb that loves you may not always be a problem, if you are not prepared for it to turn into more. But alot of people cannot tell the difference between love and being in love. All you can do is talk things through and always be honest I genuinely don't know the difference between love and being in love. I've heard people say "I love him but I'm not in love with him". Can you explain it? You can have a deep and abiding affection for someone without getting or keeping that headrush infatuation that goes with falling in love. ![]() Totally this!! There is a world of difference between how I love my parents, friends, Cats even to the way I love Gomez, or how I loved my ex. There are different layers to it. I love him in a caring, affectionate way like I do with my best friend - but then there are the layers that go beyond that, the passion, the desire, the rush you get, the butterflies you get in your tummy when you see their name on caller ID or their car turns into the drive. The way you melt when he smiles at you from across a room. I love my friends & family, but it’s not the same - there’s more to it than that! | |||
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"Cheers for all the advice guys and girls, much appreciated." As long as you communicate & know what to expect from each other, hopefully it’ll be fine!! Good luck OP! x | |||
"Cheers for all the advice guys and girls, much appreciated. As long as you communicate & know what to expect from each other, hopefully it’ll be fine!! Good luck OP! x" I'm feeling hopeful after reading opinions and thoughts of everyone who has posted. | |||
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"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. " Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say." Sounds like you spend more time together than we do, we’re engaged and live together. But as far as FWB goes yeah I wouldn’t want to be seeing a fuck buddy more than twice a week. | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say." I aim for weekly or fortnightly depending on the distance. I don't have time to see them more than that and for me it would blur the lines between fwb and a "standard" (for want of a better word ) relationship. But horses for courses. | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say." I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say." It is no one else's place to tell you what is acceptable as a way to live your own relationships whatever form they may take. You are an adult living in the real world. Rules of engagement do not exist. If you are both happy open and honest about your relationship whatever it may be how is any other persons opinion of any relevance? There is only one place you will find answers that work for you and your other. | |||
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"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x" Well, we knew eachother as we worked together about 8 years ago but not been intouch since and then we bumped into one another locally but I was in a rush so we swapped numbers and contacted her a few weeks later. We went for coffee and I learnt she had broken up with her ex 6 months earlier and at this point I'd split with my ex about 6 months too. The conversation soon led to sex and before we knew it we were back at hers and in bed together. | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x Well, we knew eachother as we worked together about 8 years ago but not been intouch since and then we bumped into one another locally but I was in a rush so we swapped numbers and contacted her a few weeks later. We went for coffee and I learnt she had broken up with her ex 6 months earlier and at this point I'd split with my ex about 6 months too. The conversation soon led to sex and before we knew it we were back at hers and in bed together." Ouch...I'm hearing the R word suddenly... | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x Well, we knew eachother as we worked together about 8 years ago but not been intouch since and then we bumped into one another locally but I was in a rush so we swapped numbers and contacted her a few weeks later. We went for coffee and I learnt she had broken up with her ex 6 months earlier and at this point I'd split with my ex about 6 months too. The conversation soon led to sex and before we knew it we were back at hers and in bed together. Ouch...I'm hearing the R word suddenly... " Yup...and we both said this also after a few weeks of sleeping together, that we were both on the rebound. However, we both said that and we both enjoyed the sex so much we continued as we wanted regular sex as we both have very high sex drives. What's the big deal with that? | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x Well, we knew eachother as we worked together about 8 years ago but not been intouch since and then we bumped into one another locally but I was in a rush so we swapped numbers and contacted her a few weeks later. We went for coffee and I learnt she had broken up with her ex 6 months earlier and at this point I'd split with my ex about 6 months too. The conversation soon led to sex and before we knew it we were back at hers and in bed together." Did you ever have the conversation that it was only going to be a casual thing x | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x Well, we knew eachother as we worked together about 8 years ago but not been intouch since and then we bumped into one another locally but I was in a rush so we swapped numbers and contacted her a few weeks later. We went for coffee and I learnt she had broken up with her ex 6 months earlier and at this point I'd split with my ex about 6 months too. The conversation soon led to sex and before we knew it we were back at hers and in bed together. Did you ever have the conversation that it was only going to be a casual thing x" After a week or so we agreed the sex was pretty amazing and I said I wasn't looking for a relationship and she said the same and we both wanted regular fun so agreed to carry on. | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x Well, we knew eachother as we worked together about 8 years ago but not been intouch since and then we bumped into one another locally but I was in a rush so we swapped numbers and contacted her a few weeks later. We went for coffee and I learnt she had broken up with her ex 6 months earlier and at this point I'd split with my ex about 6 months too. The conversation soon led to sex and before we knew it we were back at hers and in bed together. Ouch...I'm hearing the R word suddenly... Yup...and we both said this also after a few weeks of sleeping together, that we were both on the rebound. However, we both said that and we both enjoyed the sex so much we continued as we wanted regular sex as we both have very high sex drives. What's the big deal with that?" Rebound throws a whole lot of different emotions and motives into the mix, and not always rational/healthy ones at that. Speaking from my own experience here. As I said before as long as you are both being 100 per cent up front and honest with each other then all should be good. Good luck x | |||
"5 to 6 times a week?! That is a relationship surely. Well let me put it out there and ask everyone...how many times a week do you meet up with our FB/FWB for sex? A lot of people say I'm surely in a relationship without knowing it based on the fact I meet with my FWB on average 5/6 times a week. Some times it's 3 times a week sometimes once, other times it can be everyday...averages out to 5/6 times a week. In your opinion is this too much to regard the person I have regular fun with as a FWB? I'm very keen to hear what everyone has to say. I see my best pal nearly everyday. Does that mean we are more than just pals lol Can I ask if yous were friends before you started sleeping together x Well, we knew eachother as we worked together about 8 years ago but not been intouch since and then we bumped into one another locally but I was in a rush so we swapped numbers and contacted her a few weeks later. We went for coffee and I learnt she had broken up with her ex 6 months earlier and at this point I'd split with my ex about 6 months too. The conversation soon led to sex and before we knew it we were back at hers and in bed together. Did you ever have the conversation that it was only going to be a casual thing x After a week or so we agreed the sex was pretty amazing and I said I wasn't looking for a relationship and she said the same and we both wanted regular fun so agreed to carry on." Until you feel the same then just carry on as you were. Good luck and enjoy your time together x | |||
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"I haven't read every reply. Well ....... none to be exact. She told you she loves you. You never told her. Have you thought BEFORE that you love her but never said it ? If not don't say it now. Seriously. So far all is fine but when people start talking love just cos someone else said it , thats when things get shitty .... You were happy just having sex. Go down the love route and you might as well book the church now....... the L word changes things in people's minds and they expect certain things to be in place and certain routes to be taken. Sometimes the L word just means ..... I want exclusivity and commitment. Fuck that. " Useful advice. No I've never told her I love her so in that sense I've not led her on. | |||
"Does your fwb know you are on here meeting guys" Yes and she has no issues with it, and why would she? We are FWB. | |||
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"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. " If you're both happy, and have both been honest - carry on! ![]() | |||
"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose?" If you are questioning it then I think you know the answer | |||
"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose?" Cut loose now while you can. It’s only going to get “worse” and may be even more stressful/messy .. | |||
"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose?" Your a grown man in some form of relationship with another. Why do you need people you don't know on a swingers forum telling you how you should live your life? | |||
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"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose?" No. End it because you don't enjoy her company anymore. Not because of if's but's or maybes x | |||
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"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose? No. End it because you don't enjoy her company anymore. Not because of if's but's or maybes x" I've never said I don't enjoy her company. I actually do enjoy it. | |||
"Sounds like a non official relationship. Fwb don't spend that much time together. " I'm glad to learn that some do, if you read further up the thread. | |||
"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose? Your a grown man in some form of relationship with another. Why do you need people you don't know on a swingers forum telling you how you should live your life?" I'm just trying to get others thoughts and take on it. | |||
"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose? No. End it because you don't enjoy her company anymore. Not because of if's but's or maybes x I've never said I don't enjoy her company. I actually do enjoy it." Well carry on then. Until you want something more there is no reason to change what your doing. If she does do it again then take it from there. You don't want anything just now so you lose nothing x | |||
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"There’s nothing wrong with the L word in itself. It’s all the other stuff that usually follows. Surely we would all like to be in love? Everybody needs to be loved." True. I think it's better to be loved someone who you love back though, surely? | |||
"So we've both had a chat and I've said I can't be in any sort of relationship with her as it was always meant to be NSA regular fun. She is more than happy to carry on being FWB. Do I carry on and brace myself for more of the L word being mentioned later down the line or do I cut loose? No. End it because you don't enjoy her company anymore. Not because of if's but's or maybes x I've never said I don't enjoy her company. I actually do enjoy it. Well carry on then. Until you want something more there is no reason to change what your doing. If she does do it again then take it from there. You don't want anything just now so you lose nothing x" ![]() ![]() | |||
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"So...we're still FWB and we both know it's just that and respect each other for it. " glad all is good | |||
"So...we're still FWB and we both know it's just that and respect each other for it. glad all is good" Cheers pal. Life's good and much simpler this way. Loving it. | |||
"So...we're still FWB and we both know it's just that and respect each other for it. glad all is good Cheers pal. Life's good and much simpler this way. Loving it." Has the L word been mentioned again? Glad it's worked out for you both. | |||
"So...we're still FWB and we both know it's just that and respect each other for it. glad all is good Cheers pal. Life's good and much simpler this way. Loving it. Has the L word been mentioned again? Glad it's worked out for you both." Hiya. We spoke about it openly and she said she partly meant it but partly got caught up in the moment. It's not been mentioned since and we've agreed to reduce the amount of times we see each other over a week. We see each other a couple of time a week now. | |||
" Thoughts please..." You are fucking her and socialising with her almost every day for nine months - and you are surprised she develops feelings? (shakes head) | |||
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" Thoughts please... You are fucking her and socialising with her almost every day for nine months - and you are surprised she develops feelings? (shakes head)" The original post was written almost 9 months ago... | |||
"So...we're still FWB and we both know it's just that and respect each other for it. glad all is good Cheers pal. Life's good and much simpler this way. Loving it. Has the L word been mentioned again? Glad it's worked out for you both. Hiya. We spoke about it openly and she said she partly meant it but partly got caught up in the moment. It's not been mentioned since and we've agreed to reduce the amount of times we see each other over a week. We see each other a couple of time a week now." Great news. ![]() | |||
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