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"Jayda Frankenstein and Paul golding were both found guilty of harrassment and trying to stir up racial hatred.. They are always banging on about people coming here from other countries and not respecting our laws.. well you two hypocrites have broken you're own country law and now you're in jail. " Hahahaha I honestly wrote Jayda Fransen and my phone corrected it to Jayda Frankenstein.. wow auto correct really does work. | |||
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"How long did they get?" Paul Golding - 18 weeks Jayda Fransen - 36 weeks Jayda has more of a vulgar mouth. | |||
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"How long did they get? Paul Golding - 18 weeks Jayda Fransen - 36 weeks Jayda has more of a vulgar mouth. " . A vulgar mouth! Ooh well good job nobody policies here then, bunch of fucking splitters | |||
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"Well that's fair. But why do people just can't live simple life's. Enjoy" You get hateful human beings in all walks of life... if you spout hate in public regardless of who you are... you should face consequences! | |||
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"Well that's fair. But why do people just can't live simple life's. Enjoy You get hateful human beings in all walks of life... if you spout hate in public regardless of who you are... you should face consequences!" . The BBC put that maddog woman from the labour party on this week where she claimed being white I'm a racist, I mean don't get me wrong I'm a little bit racist but being white has fuck all to do with it  | |||
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"How long did they get? Paul Golding - 18 weeks Jayda Fransen - 36 weeks Jayda has more of a vulgar mouth. . A vulgar mouth! Ooh well good job nobody policies here then, bunch of fucking splitters" The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front. Yeah... Splitters. Splitters... And the Judean Popular People's Front. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters... And the People's Front of Judea. Yeah. Splitters. Splitters... What? The People's Front of Judea. Splitters. We're the People's Front of Judea! Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front. People's Front! C-huh. Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg? He's over there. Splitter! | |||
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"How long did they get? Paul Golding - 18 weeks Jayda Fransen - 36 weeks Jayda has more of a vulgar mouth. . A vulgar mouth! Ooh well good job nobody policies here then, bunch of fucking splitters The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front. Yeah... Splitters. Splitters... And the Judean Popular People's Front. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters... And the People's Front of Judea. Yeah. Splitters. Splitters... What? The People's Front of Judea. Splitters. We're the People's Front of Judea! Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front. People's Front! C-huh. Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg? He's over there. Splitter!" I quoted exactly this recently at the news that the last THREE Ukip leaders have left to start their own parties. | |||
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"How long did they get? Paul Golding - 18 weeks Jayda Fransen - 36 weeks Jayda has more of a vulgar mouth. " well when they get out on this sentence they will have a 2nd lot of trials to go thru for their potty mouths in belfast..... | |||
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"(((Britain First))) " You sound like you're about to join a dinner que lol | |||
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" So when Abu Hamza got thrown out of his own Mosque by the Imam in Finsbury Park for preaching extremism then proceeded to hold his hate filled sermons on the street, which you, me & every other tax payer paid the Police service to protect him while he spoke,they even closed off the roads to accommodate him. What were your thoughts then? Because he was allowed to do it for a very long time. " I think anyone pretty hate is hard to condone. Golding and Fransen have also been allowed to do it for a very long time. | |||
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" So when Abu Hamza got thrown out of his own Mosque by the Imam in Finsbury Park for preaching extremism then proceeded to hold his hate filled sermons on the street, which you, me & every other tax payer paid the Police service to protect him while he spoke,they even closed off the roads to accommodate him. What were your thoughts then? Because he was allowed to do it for a very long time. " that what he was saying was obnoxious, however i don't know if what he said then met the same criteria that the 2 jailed rightly today did.. | |||
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" So when Abu Hamza got thrown out of his own Mosque by the Imam in Finsbury Park for preaching extremism then proceeded to hold his hate filled sermons on the street, which you, me & every other tax payer paid the Police service to protect him while he spoke,they even closed off the roads to accommodate him. What were your thoughts then? Because he was allowed to do it for a very long time. " Yep - totally agree but, of course, the lefties keep quiet about things like this - suits their agenda. Only last night there was a programme on about a luxury hotel and some feminist was wittering on about how it was nice for the indigenous people working there (Oman) to preserve their own heritage/culture and refuse to accept interference from anyone else. If that were to be applied to English people working in a "traditional" hotel, the lefties would have it plastered everywhere as "racist". That's what makes the silent majority as sick of the lefties are they are of the far right - bloody double standards and hypocrisy. There - that's off my chest  | |||
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"Golding will be in for a hard time inside. He's the sort of bloke that's never grown up from being the kid at school who picks a fight knowing his bigger and harder mates will save his skin. " . Plus the jail's are like 20% Muslim | |||
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" So when Abu Hamza got thrown out of his own Mosque by the Imam in Finsbury Park for preaching extremism then proceeded to hold his hate filled sermons on the street, which you, me & every other tax payer paid the Police service to protect him while he spoke,they even closed off the roads to accommodate him. What were your thoughts then? Because he was allowed to do it for a very long time. Yep - totally agree but, of course, the lefties keep quiet about things like this - suits their agenda. Only last night there was a programme on about a luxury hotel and some feminist was wittering on about how it was nice for the indigenous people working there (Oman) to preserve their own heritage/culture and refuse to accept interference from anyone else. If that were to be applied to English people working in a "traditional" hotel, the lefties would have it plastered everywhere as "racist". That's what makes the silent majority as sick of the lefties are they are of the far right - bloody double standards and hypocrisy. There - that's off my chest "Outside of the massive chains there are plenty of very traditional guest houses be they hotels or bed and breakfats in Britain. Funnily enough no one bats an eyelid. | |||
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" So when Abu Hamza got thrown out of his own Mosque by the Imam in Finsbury Park for preaching extremism then proceeded to hold his hate filled sermons on the street, which you, me & every other tax payer paid the Police service to protect him while he spoke,they even closed off the roads to accommodate him. What were your thoughts then? Because he was allowed to do it for a very long time. Yep - totally agree but, of course, the lefties keep quiet about things like this - suits their agenda. Only last night there was a programme on about a luxury hotel and some feminist was wittering on about how it was nice for the indigenous people working there (Oman) to preserve their own heritage/culture and refuse to accept interference from anyone else. If that were to be applied to English people working in a "traditional" hotel, the lefties would have it plastered everywhere as "racist". That's what makes the silent majority as sick of the lefties are they are of the far right - bloody double standards and hypocrisy. There - that's off my chest "Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. | |||
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" So when Abu Hamza got thrown out of his own Mosque by the Imam in Finsbury Park for preaching extremism then proceeded to hold his hate filled sermons on the street, which you, me & every other tax payer paid the Police service to protect him while he spoke,they even closed off the roads to accommodate him. What were your thoughts then? Because he was allowed to do it for a very long time. " Well said, and what about the Pakistan Muslim MP from Bradford that spread hate words towards Jewish people and told sexually groomed children to shut their mouths for sake of diversity. See she still an MP and no charges brought against her! | |||
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"*Raises head above parapet here* I don't think jail time is a good thing for this pair. They now have weeks of a captive audience who are very vulnerable to extremism. I don't know what the answer is, but I don't think jail is it." i can absolutely see golding having to spend his time in solitary.. as there would be people inside after him... fransen, i don't think there would be the same threats in a womens jail, but i stand to be corrected.... | |||
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing ". I think technically they were convicted with harassment
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing "bit late for that party...... but feel free to add your name to my campaign for us to have a "facepalm" emoji....... see... its multi-purpose... | |||
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing "What exactly did they do? I don't often read or see the news. | |||
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing
bit late for that party...... but feel free to add your name to my campaign for us to have a "facepalm" emoji.......
see... its multi-purpose..."What did they do Fab? | |||
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing
What exactly did they do? I don't often read or see the news. "google 'news' .... simple really  | |||
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing
bit late for that party...... but feel free to add your name to my campaign for us to have a "facepalm" emoji.......
see... its multi-purpose..."we've already gone beyond 'double facepalm' with this right wing racist shit ... time for a new emoji campaign maybe | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates." Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. " so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious? | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. " 
Pity the people who believe all the mainstream media these days, and can’t formulate their own views from all the other viewpoints available.
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" So when Abu Hamza got thrown out of his own Mosque by the Imam in Finsbury Park for preaching extremism then proceeded to hold his hate filled sermons on the street, which you, me & every other tax payer paid the Police service to protect him while he spoke,they even closed off the roads to accommodate him. What were your thoughts then? Because he was allowed to do it for a very long time. Yep - totally agree but, of course, the lefties keep quiet about things like this - suits their agenda. Only last night there was a programme on about a luxury hotel and some feminist was wittering on about how it was nice for the indigenous people working there (Oman) to preserve their own heritage/culture and refuse to accept interference from anyone else. If that were to be applied to English people working in a "traditional" hotel, the lefties would have it plastered everywhere as "racist". That's what makes the silent majority as sick of the lefties are they are of the far right - bloody double standards and hypocrisy. There - that's off my chest "So two racist right wing extremists get jailed, but it's about 'lefties'.  | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory.
Pity the people who believe all the mainstream media these days, and can’t formulate their own views from all the other viewpoints available.
It’s so easy to take the path less traveled "...... and i'll ask you the same question? so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public who had nothing to do with the case whatsoever, and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious? see... its easy just spouting platitudes.... when you see what they did, its a whole different kettle of fish | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious? "No - they are scum and deserve what they got. I`m just sick of the lefties thinking they have the moral high ground - and am often amazed at their silence simply in the interest of political correctness (whilst discriminating against the Jews, of course). I have prejudice - I hate evil people - whether left, right or middle - it's just that the left always think they have the moral high ground - they don't. Hope that clarifies. | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious? "A simple search on YouTube would give you examples of the boot on the other foot but hey... believe what you want as there’s never two sides to any story | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious?
A simple search on YouTube would give you examples of the boot on the other foot but hey... believe what you want as there’s never two sides to any story "you are right... there are two sides to the story.... but you also might want to read the court notes as well, because they never denied doing any of the acts they are alledged to have done! there arguement was that is was free speech..... so you think its okay to randomly harrass and abuse anyone.... because that is what you are saying, remembering these two TARGETED THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!!..... they misidentified the people they were trying to harrass and abuse.....  | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious?
A simple search on YouTube would give you examples of the boot on the other foot but hey... believe what you want as there’s never two sides to any story
you are right... there are two sides to the story.... but you also might want to read the court notes as well, because they never denied doing any of the acts they are alledged to have done!
there arguement was that is was free speech.....
so you think its okay to randomly harrass and abuse anyone.... because that is what you are saying, remembering these two TARGETED THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!!..... they misidentified the people they were trying to harrass and abuse..... "Again.... Look at the videos... They gave a lot less than they took but hey... You have you view... I have mine... It is a pity the mainstream media didn’t do balanced reporting.... It’s a pity Twitter banned them both.... (even though leaving a lot worse on their platform- explain that !) And YouTube disportionaly censorsed them as well.. An old card shark might say ‘the deck was stacked against them’ It’s sad that they didn’t get a fair hearing in my humble view as it can never ever be fair if you have one rule for one but completely different rules for others! That’s the truth whether you agree or not and that’s just not fair! | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious?
A simple search on YouTube would give you examples of the boot on the other foot but hey... believe what you want as there’s never two sides to any story
you are right... there are two sides to the story.... but you also might want to read the court notes as well, because they never denied doing any of the acts they are alledged to have done!
there arguement was that is was free speech.....
so you think its okay to randomly harrass and abuse anyone.... because that is what you are saying, remembering these two TARGETED THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!!..... they misidentified the people they were trying to harrass and abuse.....
Again....
Look at the videos...
They gave a lot less than they took but hey...
You have you view...
I have mine...
It is a pity the mainstream media didn’t do balanced reporting....
It’s a pity Twitter banned them both.... (even though leaving a lot worse on their platform- explain that !)
And YouTube disportionaly censorsed them as well..
An old card shark might say ‘the deck was stacked against them’
It’s sad that they didn’t get a fair hearing in my humble view as it can never ever be fair if you have one rule for one but completely different rules for others!
That’s the truth whether you agree or not and that’s just not fair! "Okay, another couple of questions. Do you think that it is okay that Britain First use Lee Rigby's name as propaganda against his family;s repeatedly expressed wishes? Do you think it is right that Britain First sell "Poppy" themed merchandise but do not pass the money tp the Royal Britain Legion and repeatedly ignore the RBL's requests for them not to hijack the poppy as a symbol of hatred? | |||
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"right wing racist scum ... proven in law .... simple" . Let's hope they learn from Mandela and go on to be prime minister and sell alot of t-shirts | |||
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"right wing racist scum ... proven in law .... simple" | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious?
No - they are scum and deserve what they got. I`m just sick of the lefties thinking they have the moral high ground - and am often amazed at their silence simply in the interest of political correctness (whilst discriminating against the Jews, of course). I have prejudice - I hate evil people - whether left, right or middle - it's just that the left always think they have the moral high ground - they don't. Hope that clarifies."I consider myself left of centre and don't for a minute think I have the moral high ground, and nor do a lot of left thinking people - you're making a huge generalisation by saying that. There are wrong doers on all sides of the equation all of whom should be condemned, and are. Those on this thread coming out with the "...but what about?" arguments are missing the point completely - two wrongs don't make a right and the likes of Abu Hamza and others like him were rightly condemned and action taken against them when appropriate, just as action has been taken against Golding and Frandsen. They've both got away with spreading their form of hatred and lies for far too long so today is a victory for the right thinking of the world just as it was when Abu Hamza was bought to justice and the key thrown away in 2015. | |||
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"right wing racist scum ... proven in law .... simple. Let's hope they learn from Mandela and go on to be prime minister and sell alot of t-shirts" I;m interested in why you think they are comparable to Mandela? | |||
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"My last word on the subject just to illustrate how dangerous the left are. There are literally hundreds of men of a certain race that are guilty of exctremely serious sex offences/ abduction of children who will NEVER be convicted. The reason they were never investigated in the first place was "fear of creating community tensions" - all typical left wing mantra/bullshit which allows criminals to get away with horrendous offences. If you don't believe it, go and read fully the Rochdale/Rotherham enquiries or research Operation Phoenix - the left have created an environment where certain types of crime by certain people have been allowed to happen - and criminals laugh and go unpunished. On some counts, the left should hang their heads in eternal shame." So you are blaming their race? And believe because of their race they get away with it..? What a load of shite! There a sickos in every race.. I don't see how ones ethnicity can drive them to do such horrific crimes.. do they look in the mirror and think I'm ethnic so I have the right to do it.. ? Think about what you're saying.. surely if you're a nonce you're a nonce.. regardless of you're race.. they don't need to look in the mirror to decide that | |||
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing
What exactly did they do? I don't often read or see the news.
google 'news' .... simple really "I don't want to. I'll be faced with the rest of the shit I avoid reading if I do that. If you're going to post a thread about something, be prepared to have to explain it. I'm not on here for things to Google. | |||
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" They've both got away with spreading their form of hatred and lies for far too long so today is a victory for the right thinking of the world just as it was when Abu Hamza was bought to justice and the key thrown away in 2015. ". Not quite, he got 7 years. He's doing life for terrorism offences in the states though | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious?
No - they are scum and deserve what they got. I`m just sick of the lefties thinking they have the moral high ground - and am often amazed at their silence simply in the interest of political correctness (whilst discriminating against the Jews, of course). I have prejudice - I hate evil people - whether left, right or middle - it's just that the left always think they have the moral high ground - they don't. Hope that clarifies.
I consider myself left of centre and don't for a minute think I have the moral high ground, and nor do a lot of left thinking people - you're making a huge generalisation by saying that. There are wrong doers on all sides of the equation all of whom should be condemned, and are.
Those on this thread coming out with the "...but what about?" arguments are missing the point completely - two wrongs don't make a right and the likes of Abu Hamza and others like him were rightly condemned and action taken against them when appropriate, just as action has been taken against Golding and Frandsen. They've both got away with spreading their form of hatred and lies for far too long so today is a victory for the right thinking of the world just as it was when Abu Hamza was bought to justice and the key thrown away in 2015. "Again this is not really a very balanced viewpoint as Old Abu was given a lot of coverage before, during and after his trial but to be honest I’ve hardly seen any coverage of their trial... if we are being fair let’s compare apples with apples as this Abu example is a good one of not even coming close to a balanced viewpoint! | |||
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing
What exactly did they do? I don't often read or see the news.
google 'news' .... simple really
I don't want to. I'll be faced with the rest of the shit I avoid reading if I do that. If you're going to post a thread about something, be prepared to have to explain it. I'm not on here for things to Google.
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" They've both got away with spreading their form of hatred and lies for far too long so today is a victory for the right thinking of the world just as it was when Abu Hamza was bought to justice and the key thrown away in 2015. .
Not quite, he got 7 years.
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing
What exactly did they do? I don't often read or see the news.
google 'news' .... simple really
I don't want to. I'll be faced with the rest of the shit I avoid reading if I do that. If you're going to post a thread about something, be prepared to have to explain it. I'm not on here for things to Google.
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"scum found guilty of being scum ... let's see who attempts to defend them, rationlise their actions or even compare what they did to some other 'contrived left wing' thing
What exactly did they do? I don't often read or see the news.
google 'news' .... simple really
I don't want to. I'll be faced with the rest of the shit I avoid reading if I do that. If you're going to post a thread about something, be prepared to have to explain it. I'm not on here for things to Google.
yeah? well i didn't post the thread and i didn't need an explaination spoon fed to me"I should have known not to ask someone who used the word scum. | |||
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"My last word on the subject just to illustrate how dangerous the left are. There are literally hundreds of men of a certain race that are guilty of exctremely serious sex offences/ abduction of children who will NEVER be convicted. The reason they were never investigated in the first place was "fear of creating community tensions" - all typical left wing mantra/bullshit which allows criminals to get away with horrendous offences. If you don't believe it, go and read fully the Rochdale/Rotherham enquiries or research Operation Phoenix - the left have created an environment where certain types of crime by certain people have been allowed to happen - and criminals laugh and go unpunished. On some counts, the left should hang their heads in eternal shame. Completely agree. The way they let over 1000 girls suffer abuse at the hands of this un-named minority for fear of being deemed racist is disgusting. I actually mentioned this to a left wing commie type who argued that white men do it too, as if that makes it all okay! The way it was ignored for so long also gives certain other groups ammunition to get more support for their cause." un-named minority...? Why don't you just say it? | |||
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" Again this is not really a very balanced viewpoint as Old Abu was given a lot of coverage before, during and after his trial but to be honest I’ve hardly seen any coverage of their trial... if we are being fair let’s compare apples with apples as this Abu example is a good one of not even coming close to a balanced viewpoint!" I agree it's not comparing apples with apples and I wasn't suggesting it was - only reason I referenced him was because he'd been held up as a comparison as having "got away with it" further up thread. Frandsen and Golding are actually a joke by comparison albeit a dangerous one whose rhetoric appeals to a section of society looking for someone to blame | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... " All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol | |||
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"right wing racist scum ... proven in law .... simple. Let's hope they learn from Mandela and go on to be prime minister and sell alot of t-shirts I;m interested in why you think they are comparable to Mandela?" . Isn't it obvious!! the fascist cops have fitted them up,they're just a couple of patriots trying but admittedly breaking the law to protect their own people. I'm thinking of crowd funding a pop concert, getting the sex pistols back together and sticking it to this fascist government | |||
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"My last word on the subject just to illustrate how dangerous the left are. There are literally hundreds of men of a certain race that are guilty of exctremely serious sex offences/ abduction of children who will NEVER be convicted. The reason they were never investigated in the first place was "fear of creating community tensions" - all typical left wing mantra/bullshit which allows criminals to get away with horrendous offences. If you don't believe it, go and read fully the Rochdale/Rotherham enquiries or research Operation Phoenix - the left have created an environment where certain types of crime by certain people have been allowed to happen - and criminals laugh and go unpunished. On some counts, the left should hang their heads in eternal shame. Completely agree. The way they let over 1000 girls suffer abuse at the hands of this un-named minority for fear of being deemed racist is disgusting. I actually mentioned this to a left wing commie type who argued that white men do it too, as if that makes it all okay! The way it was ignored for so long also gives certain other groups ammunition to get more support for their cause." Oh and you forgot to mention that a man who you would categorise as the same minority as the sickos got those poor girls justice.. you forgot to mention | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol" they need a full term of life in prison at her majesties pleasure ... they're proven in law to be utter scum | |||
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" Again this is not really a very balanced viewpoint as Old Abu was given a lot of coverage before, during and after his trial but to be honest I’ve hardly seen any coverage of their trial... if we are being fair let’s compare apples with apples as this Abu example is a good one of not even coming close to a balanced viewpoint! I agree it's not comparing apples with apples and I wasn't suggesting it was - only reason I referenced him was because he'd been held up as a comparison as having "got away with it" further up thread. Frandsen and Golding are actually a joke by comparison albeit a dangerous one whose rhetoric appeals to a section of society looking for someone to blame" I don’t disagree mate. All I’m saying is it’s better to judge with as many verifiable facts as you can than just perceptions or other people’s viewpoints..  | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol" What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol" Lol they actually have a cause? A valid one? | |||
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"My last word on the subject just to illustrate how dangerous the left are. There are literally hundreds of men of a certain race that are guilty of exctremely serious sex offences/ abduction of children who will NEVER be convicted. The reason they were never investigated in the first place was "fear of creating community tensions" - all typical left wing mantra/bullshit which allows criminals to get away with horrendous offences. If you don't believe it, go and read fully the Rochdale/Rotherham enquiries or research Operation Phoenix - the left have created an environment where certain types of crime by certain people have been allowed to happen - and criminals laugh and go unpunished. On some counts, the left should hang their heads in eternal shame. Completely agree. The way they let over 1000 girls suffer abuse at the hands of this un-named minority for fear of being deemed racist is disgusting. I actually mentioned this to a left wing commie type who argued that white men do it too, as if that makes it all okay! The way it was ignored for so long also gives certain other groups ammunition to get more support for their cause. un-named minority...? Why don't you just say it? " Fine, they were Muslim. Now I'm not silly enough to think all Muslims are like that, but to let them get away with it for so long out of fear of being branded racist is quite clearly wrong. Having said that though, the Catholic church had similar problems a few years ago. My theory is that an ideology which represses human sexuality breeds this sort of thing. | |||
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"Golding will be in for a hard time inside. He's the sort of bloke that's never grown up from being the kid at school who picks a fight knowing his bigger and harder mates will save his skin. . Plus the jail's are like 20% Muslim
And yet Muslims are 1% (ish) of the population. Not a good stat to quote considering the 'nature' of the thread."It's not 20%, it's ;ess than 15%. But I guess overstating it in this context sits with some agendas And it;s not 1%, it;s around 5% which with such low numbers and even allowing for the small number of densely populated pockets does make you wonder how the islamification of Britain that Briatin First are so worried about could possibly happen... And yes it's worrying that while 5% of the population are muslim, 15% of inmates re but prison never fully reflects society as poverty and other factors have a massive influence in the dempographic of inmates | |||
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"My last word on the subject just to illustrate how dangerous the left are. There are literally hundreds of men of a certain race that are guilty of exctremely serious sex offences/ abduction of children who will NEVER be convicted. The reason they were never investigated in the first place was "fear of creating community tensions" - all typical left wing mantra/bullshit which allows criminals to get away with horrendous offences. If you don't believe it, go and read fully the Rochdale/Rotherham enquiries or research Operation Phoenix - the left have created an environment where certain types of crime by certain people have been allowed to happen - and criminals laugh and go unpunished. On some counts, the left should hang their heads in eternal shame. Completely agree. The way they let over 1000 girls suffer abuse at the hands of this un-named minority for fear of being deemed racist is disgusting. I actually mentioned this to a left wing commie type who argued that white men do it too, as if that makes it all okay! The way it was ignored for so long also gives certain other groups ammunition to get more support for their cause. un-named minority...? Why don't you just say it? Fine, they were Muslim. Now I'm not silly enough to think all Muslims are like that, but to let them get away with it for so long out of fear of being branded racist is quite clearly wrong. Having said that though, the Catholic church had similar problems a few years ago. My theory is that an ideology which represses human sexuality breeds this sort of thing." It was a Muslim who reopened the case and brought those men to justice in Rochdale..? Did you choose to ignore that part? | |||
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All lives matter!!". stop oppressing me, I'm offended as I think I might be a young white girl mentally myself | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc)" I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that..." Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... | |||
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" It was a Muslim who reopened the case and brought those men to justice in Rochdale..? Did you choose to ignore that part? No, they did the right thing obviously! " So why point out the race or beliefs of the perpetrators and not mention the beliefs or race of the lawyer who brought them to justice.. ? Easy to point out race when you see bad but not when you see good? | |||
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" It was a Muslim who reopened the case and brought those men to justice in Rochdale..? Did you choose to ignore that part? No, they did the right thing obviously! So why point out the race or beliefs of the perpetrators and not mention the beliefs or race of the lawyer who brought them to justice.. ? Easy to point out race when you see bad but not when you see good? " . Because it's got little do with race. It's down to culture obviously  | |||
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"And people please.... Remember the house rules?. You can only lump all Tory voters in together as scum, Muslims are individuals "When has anyone labelled all Tory voters as scum? The only people I have seen labelled as scum in this thread are the likes of Golding and Frandsen and Abu Hamza all of whom are deserving of the name. | |||
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" It was a Muslim who reopened the case and brought those men to justice in Rochdale..? Did you choose to ignore that part? No, they did the right thing obviously! So why point out the race or beliefs of the perpetrators and not mention the beliefs or race of the lawyer who brought them to justice.. ? Easy to point out race when you see bad but not when you see good? . Because it's got little do with race. It's down to culture obviously "It's down to culture..? The lawyer is from the same cultural background as the perpetrators.. so how is it to do with culture? | |||
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"Golding will be in for a hard time inside. He's the sort of bloke that's never grown up from being the kid at school who picks a fight knowing his bigger and harder mates will save his skin. . Plus the jail's are like 20% Muslim
And yet Muslims are 1% (ish) of the population. Not a good stat to quote considering the 'nature' of the thread.
It's not 20%, it's ;ess than 15%. But I guess overstating it in this context sits with some agendas
And it;s not 1%, it;s around 5% which with such low numbers and even allowing for the small number of densely populated pockets does make you wonder how the islamification of Britain that Briatin First are so worried about could possibly happen...
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... " Wel there's a link about Lee Rigby and many more are available if you google "lee rigby statment about Britain first" http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/20/lee-rigbys-family-condemn-britain-first-for-talking-about-his-murder-in-election-video-5830525/ oh and there's an older story from 2014 in case you doubt it was a one off http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614505/Fury-hijack-Lee-Rigbys-poll-Soldiers-mother-says-heartbroken-extremist-party-allowed-use-ballot-papers-European-election.html As for the poppy, how about this link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11207973/The-loathsome-Britain-First-are-trying-to-hijack-the-poppy-dont-let-them.html I;m all ears | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... " Just Google either of the following: Royal British Legion Britain First Lee Rigby Mother Britain First And you'll find plenty of verifiable and substantiated evidence that the British Legion repeatedly asked Britain First not to use the Poppy logo and eventually had to resort to court action (diverting funds away from the causes it supports) to get them to stop, and even then Britain First continued to use a Poppy like symbol. You'll also find direct quotes from Lee Rigby's mother asking them not to use his name in their publicity posts etc but still they continued. | |||
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"They were 95% from a particular part of Asia. Not Chinese culture, they just love a good gambling culture which is why all the casinos are nearly full of Chinese people. I like the Chinese, hard workers, love gambling and a drink and a smoke. Salt of the earth types" But you still have not acknowledged that the lawyer who brought them to justice is from the same ethnic and cultural back ground as this scum bags.. so that invalids you're point.. why would the lawyer risk his own neck to get these girls justice if he had the same culture as the abusers...? | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... Wel there's a link about Lee Rigby and many more are available if you google "lee rigby statment about Britain first" http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/20/lee-rigbys-family-condemn-britain-first-for-talking-about-his-murder-in-election-video-5830525/ oh and there's an older story from 2014 in case you doubt it was a one off http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614505/Fury-hijack-Lee-Rigbys-poll-Soldiers-mother-says-heartbroken-extremist-party-allowed-use-ballot-papers-European-election.html As for the poppy, how about this link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11207973/The-loathsome-Britain-First-are-trying-to-hijack-the-poppy-dont-let-them.html I;m all ears "I’ll just refer you back to my first comment about the mainstream press and BF et al just not getting/receiving a balanced viewpoint... it’s so easy these days just to give one side of a story... Google isn’t a good start mate | |||
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"Golding will be in for a hard time inside. He's the sort of bloke that's never grown up from being the kid at school who picks a fight knowing his bigger and harder mates will save his skin. . Plus the jail's are like 20% Muslim
And yet Muslims are 1% (ish) of the population. Not a good stat to quote considering the 'nature' of the thread.
It's not 20%, it's ;ess than 15%. But I guess overstating it in this context sits with some agendas
And it;s not 1%, it;s around 5% which with such low numbers and even allowing for the small number of densely populated pockets does make you wonder how the islamification of Britain that Briatin First are so worried about could possibly happen...
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So they shouldn't be in prison then?"I;m pretty sure nothing I said made reference to whether people should or shouldn't be in prison so not sure where that question has come from/ I merely pointed out that the 20% statistic and 1% statistic were completely inaccurate. I then made reference accepting the 15% figure being disproportionately high compared to a population of around 5% but that there are other factors to consider when loking at simple statistics about inmates that complivate them. So really can't see how that's interpreted as "they shouldn;t be in prison" | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... Wel there's a link about Lee Rigby and many more are available if you google "lee rigby statment about Britain first" http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/20/lee-rigbys-family-condemn-britain-first-for-talking-about-his-murder-in-election-video-5830525/ oh and there's an older story from 2014 in case you doubt it was a one off http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614505/Fury-hijack-Lee-Rigbys-poll-Soldiers-mother-says-heartbroken-extremist-party-allowed-use-ballot-papers-European-election.html As for the poppy, how about this link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11207973/The-loathsome-Britain-First-are-trying-to-hijack-the-poppy-dont-let-them.html I;m all ears
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Google isn’t a good start mate"So your argument is the press are lying? Despite the fact the RBL took court action over use of the Poppy and there are direct quotes from Lee Rigby's mother asking BF to stop using his name? Tells me all I need to know | |||
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"They were 95% from a particular part of Asia. Not Chinese culture, they just love a good gambling culture which is why all the casinos are nearly full of Chinese people. I like the Chinese, hard workers, love gambling and a drink and a smoke. Salt of the earth types. Come to think of it, is that possible, I mean not every single Chinese person gambles so how can it be that the Chinese have a gambling culture??. Hmmm it's like culture is engrained in the many but not in the totality. That must be why not every single English person fly's a George cross as well. Damn you lefties with your brilliant big brains "Lol do you even know where the St. George's Cross originated from? | |||
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"They were 95% from a particular part of Asia. Not Chinese culture, they just love a good gambling culture which is why all the casinos are nearly full of Chinese people. I like the Chinese, hard workers, love gambling and a drink and a smoke. Salt of the earth types. Come to think of it, is that possible, I mean not every single Chinese person gambles so how can it be that the Chinese have a gambling culture??. Hmmm it's like culture is engrained in the many but not in the totality. That must be why not every single English person fly's a George cross as well. Damn you lefties with your brilliant big brains
Lol do you even know where the St. George's Cross originated from? ". Nah I'm a numpty who doesn't even know how culture works on the many but not ALL. I mean Jesus how could I have been so stupid to not realise that the UK has a drinking culture but NOT EVERYBODY is a piss can. | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... Wel there's a link about Lee Rigby and many more are available if you google "lee rigby statment about Britain first" http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/20/lee-rigbys-family-condemn-britain-first-for-talking-about-his-murder-in-election-video-5830525/ oh and there's an older story from 2014 in case you doubt it was a one off http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614505/Fury-hijack-Lee-Rigbys-poll-Soldiers-mother-says-heartbroken-extremist-party-allowed-use-ballot-papers-European-election.html As for the poppy, how about this link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11207973/The-loathsome-Britain-First-are-trying-to-hijack-the-poppy-dont-let-them.html I;m all ears
I’ll just refer you back to my first comment about the mainstream press and BF et al just not getting/receiving a balanced viewpoint... it’s so easy these days just to give one side of a story...
Google isn’t a good start mate"Sp you are saying that the bations media created a story regarding one of the most high profile murders in this country just to discredit a small time group of fascists? So if the mainstream media is so easily dismissed, where should I look? Breitbart? Or to turn this on it;s head, do you have any evidence at all that Lee Rigby;s family didn;t make those statements? | |||
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... Wel there's a link about Lee Rigby and many more are available if you google "lee rigby statment about Britain first" http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/20/lee-rigbys-family-condemn-britain-first-for-talking-about-his-murder-in-election-video-5830525/ oh and there's an older story from 2014 in case you doubt it was a one off http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614505/Fury-hijack-Lee-Rigbys-poll-Soldiers-mother-says-heartbroken-extremist-party-allowed-use-ballot-papers-European-election.html As for the poppy, how about this link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11207973/The-loathsome-Britain-First-are-trying-to-hijack-the-poppy-dont-let-them.html I;m all ears
I’ll just refer you back to my first comment about the mainstream press and BF et al just not getting/receiving a balanced viewpoint... it’s so easy these days just to give one side of a story...
Google isn’t a good start mate
Sp you are saying that the bations media created a story regarding one of the most high profile murders in this country just to discredit a small time group of fascists?
So if the mainstream media is so easily dismissed, where should I look? Breitbart?
Or to turn this on it;s head, do you have any evidence at all that Lee Rigby;s family didn;t make those statements?
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"I'm shocked to see so many people defending them.. they wave the British flag like they own it and to put it in people's faces and say "Britain first" telling people how to live and what they should do.. I'm glad they got done for harassment because that's all they ever do is harass helpless people... thinking they have a right to do this because they think they are indigenous... All I’ll say is that is a very blinkered view if you look at the broader picture of what they ‘try’ and stand for ... they probably need a better PR person lol What they 'try' and stand for is hatred based on malicious lies using patriotism as their foundation, all the while hijacking causes to appear altruistic (The Poppy, Lee Rigby etc etc) I think my questions about the poppy and Lee Rigby were somehow missed by people defending BF, funny that... Not at all mate... it you can provide verifiable evidence that that is indeed the case, I will happily respond with my viewpoint ... Wel there's a link about Lee Rigby and many more are available if you google "lee rigby statment about Britain first" http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/20/lee-rigbys-family-condemn-britain-first-for-talking-about-his-murder-in-election-video-5830525/ oh and there's an older story from 2014 in case you doubt it was a one off http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2614505/Fury-hijack-Lee-Rigbys-poll-Soldiers-mother-says-heartbroken-extremist-party-allowed-use-ballot-papers-European-election.html As for the poppy, how about this link: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11207973/The-loathsome-Britain-First-are-trying-to-hijack-the-poppy-dont-let-them.html I;m all ears
I’ll just refer you back to my first comment about the mainstream press and BF et al just not getting/receiving a balanced viewpoint... it’s so easy these days just to give one side of a story...
Google isn’t a good start mate
Sp you are saying that the bations media created a story regarding one of the most high profile murders in this country just to discredit a small time group of fascists?
So if the mainstream media is so easily dismissed, where should I look? Breitbart?
Or to turn this on it;s head, do you have any evidence at all that Lee Rigby;s family didn;t make those statements?
Just asking for evidence mate not an argument... easy"I;m not arguing, it's a discussion. You have just dismissed all main stream media as a credible source of evidence only minutes after asking for evidence. I'll admit even as someone who recognises media bias I'm slightly incredulous of that as both stories were widely reported across the breadth of the political spectrum. I deliberately shied away from papers like the guardian and independent to avoid comments of left wing bias. Do you honestly think that a paper like The Mail that has had a very clear right wing bias going back to an openly pro-fascism stance in the 1930s would carry a story like that if it wasn't true? I;m genuinely interested where I should be looking for the evidence you asked for if conservative and right wing mainstream media is so quickly dismissed as unreliable. | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers "Could you please explain how they are racist?? I look forward to reading the reply to this. | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
Could you please explain how they are racist?? I look forward to reading the reply to this. "Are you suggesting tbey aren't racist because Islam is a religion not a race? | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
Could you please explain how they are racist?? I look forward to reading the reply to this. "You either don't know who they are or what they stand for..? Or you do know who they are but can't see them for who they truely are.. | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
Could you please explain how they are racist?? I look forward to reading the reply to this.
Are you suggesting tbey aren't racist because Islam is a religion not a race?"They are not just against Islam.. they are against anyone who isn't "British looking" | |||
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"So you are blaming their race? And believe because of their race they get away with it..? What a load of shite! I don't see how ones ethnicity can drive them to do such horrific crimes.. do they look in the mirror and think I'm ethnic so I have the right to do it.. ? Think about what you're saying.. " Then you clearly do not have much knowledge of the subject. It's widely accepted in law enforcement and judicial circles that there is a significant cultural problem. You are often dealing with a medieval ideology in a modern world. Many followers believe FULLY what is written. For example, when it is written that he married a child aged 6 - and then consummated the marriage when she was aged nine (and he was aged 53) - you may begin to understand why, indeed, it is often a cultural problem. You are looking at it through your western eyes - the perpetrators don't. It's not something I want to discuss any more on here but you really do need to do your research. I also give every credit to the Muslim Chief Crown Prosecutor in the Rochdale case - and have spoken to him about it. | |||
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"So you are blaming their race? And believe because of their race they get away with it..? What a load of shite! I don't see how ones ethnicity can drive them to do such horrific crimes.. do they look in the mirror and think I'm ethnic so I have the right to do it.. ? Think about what you're saying.. Then you clearly do not have much knowledge of the subject. It's widely accepted in law enforcement and judicial circles that there is a significant cultural problem. You are often dealing with a medieval ideology in a modern world. Many followers believe FULLY what is written. For example, when it is written that he married a child aged 6 - and then consummated the marriage when she was aged nine (and he was aged 53) - you may begin to understand why, indeed, it is often a cultural problem. You are looking at it through your western eyes - the perpetrators don't. It's not something I want to discuss any more on here but you really do need to do your research. I also give every credit to the Muslim Chief Crown Prosecutor in the Rochdale case - and have spoken to him about it." Are you an expert on religion... have you spoke to any Islamic scholars and asked the situation regarding the 6 year old marriage situation...? I've read there is no evidence of this and that this is based on theory.. how ever there is a gospel written by one of his decpiles that at the time of their marriage she was stoodoing next to him and that her head was leaning on his shoulder.. so how can a 6 year old be as tall as a grown man... I'm not a religious expert or do follow anything but if I was to look upon anything and make claims or accusations I would want to find the right source. . Definitely wouldn't educate myself on what any extremists spouts on the streets or any right wing media. | |||
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"Ultimately the point that has been missed on this thread (as it descended into a left versus right one, as they often do) is Golding and Frandsen were found guilty of a crime and are rightly behind bars for doing so - and not before time either as they've been harassing and spreading hatred for years. I've yet to see a credible defence of what they have done or suggestion that they were actually innocent of all they were accused of. I'd be saying exactly the same IF there were an extreme left wing group who employed similar methods to them, or for ANY religious group that broke the law. They deserve to be where they currently are plain and simple - my only regret is they won't learn from their time behind bars but will seek to gain some capital out of it about how they have served time in the name of their cause and will be praised by their cronies for doing so. " Agreed When they get out they will portray themselves as victims and martyrs. It's inevitable | |||
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"Ultimately the point that has been missed on this thread (as it descended into a left versus right one, as they often do) is Golding and Frandsen were found guilty of a crime and are rightly behind bars for doing so - and not before time either as they've been harassing and spreading hatred for years. I've yet to see a credible defence of what they have done or suggestion that they were actually innocent of all they were accused of. I'd be saying exactly the same IF there were an extreme left wing group who employed similar methods to them, or for ANY religious group that broke the law. They deserve to be where they currently are plain and simple - my only regret is they won't learn from their time behind bars but will seek to gain some capital out of it about how they have served time in the name of their cause and will be praised by their cronies for doing so. Agreed When they get out they will portray themselves as victims and martyrs. It's inevitable "Videos set to Jerusalem, edited to make them look wronged, soft focus etc etc - they've a track history!! | |||
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"Is this about the five Muslim guys one of which was an illegal immigrant who gang r@ped a 16 year old girl who came into the fast food outlet they worked into a little d*unk (British culture) and was promptly taken up stairs and gang r@ped and even though there seemed lots and lots of evidence they were released on bail to carry on working in the fast food outlet that teenagers were still using unbeknown to them it was staffed by r@pists. I'm unsure if it's about this case of the 27 guys in Huddersfield currently on trial..." Nope you're wrong. Try and research why and then come back. | |||
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"Still it's good to see so much outrage on here about two wombats shouting through letter boxs... I'm just wondering where the outrage thread for the five Muslim r@pists is?" Not on this thread clearly. Where is your thread about the accused then? | |||
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"Still it's good to see so much outrage on here about two wombats shouting through letter boxs... I'm just wondering where the outrage thread for the five Muslim r@pists is? Not on this thread clearly. Where is your thread about the accused then? " . They were convicted not long back, try doing some research | |||
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"Still it's good to see so much outrage on here about two wombats shouting through letter boxs... I'm just wondering where the outrage thread for the five Muslim r@pists is? Not on this thread clearly. Where is your thread about the accused then? . They were convicted not long back, try doing some research" You said they were on trail still? Or am I confused with what you're typing? Anyway I didn't see a thread about it soo????? | |||
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"Why is nobody from Fabswingers forums in court for the hate speech the publicly put forth concerning Christianity, the Christians and their God... Why do the Adminss allow this yet swiftly act along with members to protect Islam and its founder from the same... Think of this and then consider why two members of the public simply having a different viewpoint to that of Islam are imprisoned..." Blasphemy is a victimless crime...
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine..." Nonsense. | |||
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"Why is nobody from Fabswingers forums in court for the hate speech the publicly put forth concerning Christianity, the Christians and their God... Why do the Adminss allow this yet swiftly act along with members to protect Islam and its founder from the same... Think of this and then consider why two members of the public simply having a different viewpoint to that of Islam are imprisoned..." I think they've been imprisoned for a little bit more than 'having a different viewpoint" | |||
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" Are muslims who preach hatred towards non muslims and plot to blow them up considered "far right"? " Yes.They are extremists.I dont know if they are extrem left or extreme right in Islam. | |||
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" Are muslims who preach hatred towards non muslims and plot to blow them up considered "far right"? Yes.They are extremists.I dont know if they are extrem left or extreme right in Islam." Well what makes Britain first "right wing" and how does it differ from a Muslim extremist? | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense. "Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists.... | |||
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" Are muslims who preach hatred towards non muslims and plot to blow them up considered "far right"? Yes.They are extremists.I dont know if they are extrem left or extreme right in Islam. Well what makes Britain first "right wing" and how does it differ from a Muslim extremist? " Well traditionally the right likes to preserve or conserve as in conservatives who are on the right.So I would assume Muslim extremists want to preserve their culture and dislike the westernisation of their youth amd culture.So I'm going to say they are on the right also.. | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists...."What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share? Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre.. Almost like deflection.. | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists...."You could check how many murders have been carried out by Christians, Marxists, Fascists, Extremists and all kinds of others in the name of a "cause" - doesn't make any of them right though. The point is Frandsen and Golding have been found guilty of a crime and are rightly doing time for it - that's the main thing | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers "
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists. | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share?
Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre..
Almost like deflection..
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists."Why are we not protecting the Christians of Brittania with the same gusto | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
You could check how many murders have been carried out by Christians, Marxists, Fascists, Extremists and all kinds of others in the name of a "cause" - doesn't make any of them right though.
The point is Frandsen and Golding have been found guilty of a crime and are rightly doing time for it - that's the main thing "What gets me is how no ever fingers the main villain when it comes to killing for a cause. Nationalism. More people have killed for Britain, France, the United States, Germany, Russia etc than any other religion or ideology you care to name. The idea that "we" are special and need to maintain our concept of "we" by violent means as against "them" is the most murderous idea known to humanity. | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists.
Why are we not protecting the Christians of Brittania with the same gusto"Who said they're not protected or being protected? They're certainly not being persecuted in the same way Frandsen and Golding and their cronies attempt to persecute others. | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share?
Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre..
Almost like deflection..
Another Marxist putting forth falsehoods"You have nothing of any value to add have you.. Take your head out of the sand maybe and look objectively at the historical facts available instead of peddling out tired baseless clichés.. This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist? Fucking comical on here at times.. | |||
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" Lefties love right wing strawman arguments which are easy to destroy, so doubtful. So do moderates. Nah not me mate - just wise enought to know that the far left is as dangerous as the far right - try speaking to a few Jews and what they've had to put up with form even mainstream left wingers - absolute utter hypocrites and the Labour party is infested with them. By the way, always voted Labour (until Corbyn) and would never vote Tory. so you think it was okay that these two were so dim that instead of harassing their intended targets... which would have been bad enough in its own right, they ended up abusing and harassing two innocent members of the general public and ended up putting it online as well........ i'm just curious?
No - they are scum and deserve what they got. I`m just sick of the lefties thinking they have the moral high ground - and am often amazed at their silence simply in the interest of political correctness (whilst discriminating against the Jews, of course). I have prejudice - I hate evil people - whether left, right or middle - it's just that the left always think they have the moral high ground - they don't. Hope that clarifies.
I consider myself left of centre and don't for a minute think I have the moral high ground, and nor do a lot of left thinking people - you're making a huge generalisation by saying that. There are wrong doers on all sides of the equation all of whom should be condemned, and are.
Those on this thread coming out with the "...but what about?" arguments are missing the point completely - two wrongs don't make a right and the likes of Abu Hamza and others like him were rightly condemned and action taken against them when appropriate, just as action has been taken against Golding and Frandsen. They've both got away with spreading their form of hatred and lies for far too long so today is a victory for the right thinking of the world just as it was when Abu Hamza was bought to justice and the key thrown away in 2015. " | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists.
Why are we not protecting the Christians of Brittania with the same gusto"From who? The atheists or other religions.? | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists.
Why are we not protecting the Christians of Brittania with the same gusto"Seriously? Our head of state is required by law to be a christian, we have legislators in Parliament there solely because they are Christian leaders, we have loads of Christian schools (far more than any other religion) funded by the state. This in a country. Where, according to recent surveys, the majority of the population does not not adhere to any religion. | |||
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"Some of there ideas are ok but the way the operate and act is just stupid and racism should be penalised heavier than it is" Curious which of their ideas do you mean? | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share?
Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre..
Almost like deflection..
Another Marxist putting forth falsehoods
You have nothing of any value to add have you..
Take your head out of the sand maybe and look objectively at the historical facts available instead of peddling out tired baseless clichés..
This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist?
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists.
Why are we not protecting the Christians of Brittania with the same gusto
Seriously?
Our head of state is required by law to be a christian, we have legislators in Parliament there solely because they are Christian leaders, we have loads of Christian schools (far more than any other religion) funded by the state.
This in a country. Where, according to recent surveys, the majority of the population does not not adhere to any religion. "62 per cent of this country consider themselves christian | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share?
Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre..
Almost like deflection..
Another Marxist putting forth falsehoods
You have nothing of any value to add have you..
Take your head out of the sand maybe and look objectively at the historical facts available instead of peddling out tired baseless clichés..
This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist?
Fucking comical on here at times..
A lapsed Catholic, maybe but a Marxist definitly your long winded rants on other threads reveal that .."Fuck.. A stalker..
Not literally mind.. | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists.
Why are we not protecting the Christians of Brittania with the same gusto
Seriously?
Our head of state is required by law to be a christian, we have legislators in Parliament there solely because they are Christian leaders, we have loads of Christian schools (far more than any other religion) funded by the state.
This in a country. Where, according to recent surveys, the majority of the population does not not adhere to any religion.
62 per cent of this country consider themselves christian"Link lest its just something you may have pulled out of thin air.. Polls from Christians are us don't count BTW.. | |||
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" This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist? Fucking comical on here at times..
"It's the way of a certain kind of YouTube video watching conservative, these days. Apparently anyone who is even vaguely lefty is a Marxist. And Marxists are plotting to take over the world. | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share?
Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre..
Almost like deflection..
Another Marxist putting forth falsehoods
You have nothing of any value to add have you..
Take your head out of the sand maybe and look objectively at the historical facts available instead of peddling out tired baseless clichés..
This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist?
Fucking comical on here at times..
A lapsed Catholic, maybe but a Marxist definitly your long winded rants on other threads reveal that .."What I find interesting is quite a few people that have attacked other people for their derisory comments about BF, but aren't commenting in support of Frensen/Golding. So I;m interested do you think what Golding and Frensen did was acceptable? And what do you think aboutt their arrest, conviction and imprisonment? | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share?
Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre..
Almost like deflection..
Another Marxist putting forth falsehoods
You have nothing of any value to add have you..
Take your head out of the sand maybe and look objectively at the historical facts available instead of peddling out tired baseless clichés..
This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist?
Fucking comical on here at times..
A lapsed Catholic, maybe but a Marxist definitly your long winded rants on other threads reveal that ..
What I find interesting is quite a few people that have attacked other people for their derisory comments about BF, but aren't commenting in support of Frensen/Golding.
So I;m interested do you think what Golding and Frensen did was acceptable? And what do you think aboutt their arrest, conviction and imprisonment?
"Great question | |||
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"Nobody stalks you, your manifold long windded rants on many threads are hard not to miss.." Best get your eyes tested.. | |||
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"Marxists murdered over one hundred million people, many whom were Christians, why because their Christian faith was considered blasphemous towards Marxist doctrine... Nonsense.
Go and check how many murders have been committed by Marxists....
What about the ones carried out under the banner of all religions through history, certainly the Christian lot have butchered their fair share?
Though what the fuck any of it has to do with the locking up of the 2 shit bags in question is a bit bizarre..
Almost like deflection..
Another Marxist putting forth falsehoods
You have nothing of any value to add have you..
Take your head out of the sand maybe and look objectively at the historical facts available instead of peddling out tired baseless clichés..
This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist?
Fucking comical on here at times..
A lapsed Catholic, maybe but a Marxist definitly your long winded rants on other threads reveal that ..
What I find interesting is quite a few people that have attacked other people for their derisory comments about BF, but aren't commenting in support of Frensen/Golding.
So I;m interested do you think what Golding and Frensen did was acceptable? And what do you think aboutt their arrest, conviction and imprisonment?
"Me? My comments very early on state what I think of their ilk.. | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists.
Why are we not protecting the Christians of Brittania with the same gusto
Seriously?
Our head of state is required by law to be a christian, we have legislators in Parliament there solely because they are Christian leaders, we have loads of Christian schools (far more than any other religion) funded by the state.
This in a country. Where, according to recent surveys, the majority of the population does not not adhere to any religion.
62 per cent of this country consider themselves christian"Where’s this statistic from? Thanks | |||
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"even in the low-life bottom feeder inter-web press ... these two characters and their apologists are racist scumsuckers
This case and others like it just go to prove how much more white British people need to do to accommodate Muslims and their culture. They're here to stay and will improve Britain given the right opportunities and the right protection from bigots and racists."In what way will Britain be improved? | |||
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" This Catholic baptised albeit long lapsed may be centre left on some issues but Marxist? Fucking comical on here at times..
It's the way of a certain kind of YouTube video watching conservative, these days.
Apparently anyone who is even vaguely lefty is a Marxist. And Marxists are plotting to take over the world.
"I dont think that, Marxism is a failed system, but many of its doctrines have seeped into society over the decades | |||
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