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over a year ago
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Would love to be good at it but I'm shite! Brain's far too active. Only ever time I'm even near to being in the now is whilst doing sports.
Anyone meditate on here that can offer any tips? Really rediculous question this but it's late |
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Yes I do but not consistently enough. I need to develop more discipline. I keeep it very simple and just focus my attention on the bridge of my nose and watch the colours changing while maintaining deep controlled breathing. I have found it affecting many other areas including when I’m working and use it as I work, but my focus is external rather than internal while working. I also use my gym routines as a form of meditation as well. |
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"I do colouring in and if my brain is really whirring I come on the Fab fora and numb it.
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I find art really therapeutic. Still think sports and exercise are the best brain calmers though. |
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"Yes I do but not consistently enough. I need to develop more discipline. I keeep it very simple and just focus my attention on the bridge of my nose and watch the colours changing while maintaining deep controlled breathing. I have found it affecting many other areas including when I’m working and use it as I work, but my focus is external rather than internal while working. I also use my gym routines as a form of meditation as well."
Yeah I know what you mean. Especially with the breathing and focus on body's parts. I try and focus on everything around and prefer environments where my senses are stimulated, so a little bit of noise or if I can feel the wind on my skin. I'm pretty good at getting in the now with sports though. Especially things like badminton and squash when you are constantly involved and having to react. I also try and use triggers, so every time I have a negative thought I use it as a reminder that I should concentrating fully on what I'm doing. As I say though, I'm useless |
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"Try a guided meditation app.
Stick a pair of headphones on and away you go. I’ve found it useful "
Never heard of these. Will have to give them a pop |
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"Yes I do but not consistently enough. I need to develop more discipline. I keeep it very simple and just focus my attention on the bridge of my nose and watch the colours changing while maintaining deep controlled breathing. I have found it affecting many other areas including when I’m working and use it as I work, but my focus is external rather than internal while working. I also use my gym routines as a form of meditation as well.
Yeah I know what you mean. Especially with the breathing and focus on body's parts. I try and focus on everything around and prefer environments where my senses are stimulated, so a little bit of noise or if I can feel the wind on my skin. I'm pretty good at getting in the now with sports though. Especially things like badminton and squash when you are constantly involved and having to react. I also try and use triggers, so every time I have a negative thought I use it as a reminder that I should concentrating fully on what I'm doing. As I say though, I'm useless"
Practice, practice, practice but your mindfulness approach sounds great |
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Op, similar experiences when I started which I found out that I was trying too hard to 'get there'..
Concentrate on the breathing and something simple to focus on, even doing that for ten minutes is a start..
Good luck |
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Following hypnosis I was taught a relaxation technique similar to meditation which I used do. However with everything without practice and being busy I let it go.
Local Buddhist temple teach it round here. |
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Thanks all! Especially the vids! Gonna try that one cheers Princess! Lucid dreaming as well. Read quite a bit about lucid dreaming and tried it years back. Used to stop me from sleeping though as I concentrated on achieving it too much.
But yeah just gonna have to keep at it and hopefully one day it'll click. When I first had a go I was living in Myanmar and the monk who convinced me to try meditation said everyone finds a different way to reach the same destination. |
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"Thanks all! Especially the vids! Gonna try that one cheers Princess! Lucid dreaming as well. Read quite a bit about lucid dreaming and tried it years back. Used to stop me from sleeping though as I concentrated on achieving it too much.
But yeah just gonna have to keep at it and hopefully one day it'll click. When I first had a go I was living in Myanmar and the monk who convinced me to try meditation said everyone finds a different way to reach the same destination. "
Lucid dreaming is fun. I found the trick was not trying to hard. I found it easier doing it lying on the couch relaxing than at night time. Hitting the vibrational state was quite easy if I used my meditative approach. Lucid dreaming wasn’t really the aim, it was more a case of relaxing using meditation that sometimes caused me to drift off into lucid dreaming. I’ve had some fantastic lucid dreams |
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"Thanks all! Especially the vids! Gonna try that one cheers Princess! Lucid dreaming as well. Read quite a bit about lucid dreaming and tried it years back. Used to stop me from sleeping though as I concentrated on achieving it too much.
But yeah just gonna have to keep at it and hopefully one day it'll click. When I first had a go I was living in Myanmar and the monk who convinced me to try meditation said everyone finds a different way to reach the same destination. "
No probs. The reason I chose that one is it's less about the end goal and all about relaxing. It's not overkill but gets the job done. I normally nod off while following the instructions on which body parts to relax! |
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"Thanks all! Especially the vids! Gonna try that one cheers Princess! Lucid dreaming as well. Read quite a bit about lucid dreaming and tried it years back. Used to stop me from sleeping though as I concentrated on achieving it too much.
But yeah just gonna have to keep at it and hopefully one day it'll click. When I first had a go I was living in Myanmar and the monk who convinced me to try meditation said everyone finds a different way to reach the same destination.
Lucid dreaming is fun. I found the trick was not trying to hard. I found it easier doing it lying on the couch relaxing than at night time. Hitting the vibrational state was quite easy if I used my meditative approach. Lucid dreaming wasn’t really the aim, it was more a case of relaxing using meditation that sometimes caused me to drift off into lucid dreaming. I’ve had some fantastic lucid dreams "
I've not managed a lucid dream thus far. You know when they say "picture yourself on a ...." That's where I zone out. My mind and eyes are blank. I got nothing! |
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"Thanks all! Especially the vids! Gonna try that one cheers Princess! Lucid dreaming as well. Read quite a bit about lucid dreaming and tried it years back. Used to stop me from sleeping though as I concentrated on achieving it too much.
But yeah just gonna have to keep at it and hopefully one day it'll click. When I first had a go I was living in Myanmar and the monk who convinced me to try meditation said everyone finds a different way to reach the same destination.
Lucid dreaming is fun. I found the trick was not trying to hard. I found it easier doing it lying on the couch relaxing than at night time. Hitting the vibrational state was quite easy if I used my meditative approach. Lucid dreaming wasn’t really the aim, it was more a case of relaxing using meditation that sometimes caused me to drift off into lucid dreaming. I’ve had some fantastic lucid dreams
I've not managed a lucid dream thus far. You know when they say "picture yourself on a ...." That's where I zone out. My mind and eyes are blank. I got nothing!"
I managed one when I was younger. Well I was aware that I was dreaming but didn't really have any control over anything. It was definitely a good dream though and said a lot about where my mind was at the time.
I've also heard flotation tanks are good as well! Those and ayahuasca retreats are supposed to be the best ways to help with piece of mind. Shame they both cost loads |
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"Thanks all! Especially the vids! Gonna try that one cheers Princess! Lucid dreaming as well. Read quite a bit about lucid dreaming and tried it years back. Used to stop me from sleeping though as I concentrated on achieving it too much.
But yeah just gonna have to keep at it and hopefully one day it'll click. When I first had a go I was living in Myanmar and the monk who convinced me to try meditation said everyone finds a different way to reach the same destination.
Lucid dreaming is fun. I found the trick was not trying to hard. I found it easier doing it lying on the couch relaxing than at night time. Hitting the vibrational state was quite easy if I used my meditative approach. Lucid dreaming wasn’t really the aim, it was more a case of relaxing using meditation that sometimes caused me to drift off into lucid dreaming. I’ve had some fantastic lucid dreams
I've not managed a lucid dream thus far. You know when they say "picture yourself on a ...." That's where I zone out. My mind and eyes are blank. I got nothing!
I managed one when I was younger. Well I was aware that I was dreaming but didn't really have any control over anything. It was definitely a good dream though and said a lot about where my mind was at the time.
I've also heard flotation tanks are good as well! Those and ayahuasca retreats are supposed to be the best ways to help with piece of mind. Shame they both cost loads"
Peace not piece.... Doh |
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"Thanks all! Especially the vids! Gonna try that one cheers Princess! Lucid dreaming as well. Read quite a bit about lucid dreaming and tried it years back. Used to stop me from sleeping though as I concentrated on achieving it too much.
But yeah just gonna have to keep at it and hopefully one day it'll click. When I first had a go I was living in Myanmar and the monk who convinced me to try meditation said everyone finds a different way to reach the same destination.
Lucid dreaming is fun. I found the trick was not trying to hard. I found it easier doing it lying on the couch relaxing than at night time. Hitting the vibrational state was quite easy if I used my meditative approach. Lucid dreaming wasn’t really the aim, it was more a case of relaxing using meditation that sometimes caused me to drift off into lucid dreaming. I’ve had some fantastic lucid dreams
I've not managed a lucid dream thus far. You know when they say "picture yourself on a ...." That's where I zone out. My mind and eyes are blank. I got nothing!"
I don’t use any inductions to get there. The picture yourself on a.... approach is more akin to guided fantasy than lucid dreaming. Lucid dreaming for me is simply a dream where I am consciously controlling my interaction in the dream. I can will myself to do things.
I find content neutral process cues are the best way to get people doing creative visualisation which is another form of it. The difference with creative visualisation is that you create all the ‘dream’ content yourself. Guided fantasy that is significantly influenced by the facilitator. Whereas lucid dreaming is the conscious mind and unconscious mind interacting together to create the dream. The degree of ‘wakefulness’ is different in each case. Creative visualisation being the most awake, lucid dreaming being the most asleep...if you like. |
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I use native american chants cd and candlelit room a small smudge of sage grass or an incense stick... and slowly switch off and float... works for me 90% of the time... |
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"I use native american chants cd and candlelit room a small smudge of sage grass or an incense stick... and slowly switch off and float... works for me 90% of the time... "
Shamanic approaches - I love them but haven’t tried them for years. |
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An amazing meditative approach with a partner is mutual gazing. Sitting opposite each other and gazing intently at each other as you both control your breathing in time with each other. An incredibly intimate experience. |
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There are many techniques that calm the mind and interestingly are crossovers for trauma work. Some are visual, others sound and others physical ( which you have found with exercise) apps like headspace are useful but do you want meditation or sleep.
Mindfulness imagining a blank canvas, you as the observer. Squeeze technique for body parts to calm the body, but that's isn't quite meditation. Left, right nostril alternatively press breathe in / out. 1 minute meditations to get your mind and body attuned to meditation by focusing on an object/tree/cloud. Dynamic meditations like the whirling dervishes, trance like dancing. Shaking uncontrollably are also meditations. Rewind technique from trauma work is useful. Cobra breathe ect. The one I have found most useful with a lover is eye gazing and circular breathe (tantra exercises) which takes me to a deeper meditative but also a quite orgasmic space. |
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"There are many techniques that calm the mind and interestingly are crossovers for trauma work. Some are visual, others sound and others physical ( which you have found with exercise) apps like headspace are useful but do you want meditation or sleep.
Mindfulness imagining a blank canvas, you as the observer. Squeeze technique for body parts to calm the body, but that's isn't quite meditation. Left, right nostril alternatively press breathe in / out. 1 minute meditations to get your mind and body attuned to meditation by focusing on an object/tree/cloud. Dynamic meditations like the whirling dervishes, trance like dancing. Shaking uncontrollably are also meditations. Rewind technique from trauma work is useful. Cobra breathe ect. The one I have found most useful with a lover is eye gazing and circular breathe (tantra exercises) which takes me to a deeper meditative but also a quite orgasmic space."
Great list- I’d forgotten how good Sufi and Shamanic dances were for this. I really do need to do more! |
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Check YouTube theres Loads of guided meditation videos on there.
I listen to frequency vibrations as well when I meditate 417hz works best for me, but there's loads you can try and see what works for you |
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"Herbie Hancock / Headhunters album through headphones in the dark. That’s meditation right there. "
Wow what a great taste in music you have! think the head hunters album is bit funky for meditation though, would get distracted by my big toe jumping around in my boot |
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"Herbie Hancock / Headhunters album through headphones in the dark. That’s meditation right there.
Wow what a great taste in music you have! think the head hunters album is bit funky for meditation though, would get distracted by my big toe jumping around in my boot"
Yes maybe go with Mahler 2 if you want to keep your toe still |
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"Would love to be good at it but I'm shite! Brain's far too active. Only ever time I'm even near to being in the now is whilst doing sports.
Anyone meditate on here that can offer any tips? Really rediculous question this but it's late"
yes a simple , yet ending difficult exercise with a very gradual curve which also physically improves sleep and health
The one hundred breath challenge
benefits occur from the very first attempt
ok one breath is to breath In and out with control as slow as you can comfortably manage
for me this is around 50 to 70 seconds , but slow as you can is the only requirement
then daily you make as many breaths as you can , I struggle beyond 15 (for me that's 15 minutes)
just starting at one breath the only way of failing is by not doing at least one breath daily , 5 is fantastic
It is the daily practice and not the quantity which will lead to the well being xxx |
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"In wolves there is a bhuddist temple that holds meditation classes for all and it is free. My brother goes there."
Cheers! Will have to check this place out. Been to a few temples and love Buddhism so makes sense |
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"Herbie Hancock / Headhunters album through headphones in the dark. That’s meditation right there.
Wow what a great taste in music you have! think the head hunters album is bit funky for meditation though, would get distracted by my big toe jumping around in my boot
Yes maybe go with Mahler 2 if you want to keep your toe still "
That would put my toe to sleep... either that or tell it a musical story/lullaby. Maybe should stick to the lofi as bed time music |
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Try guided mindfulness. There’s YouTube videos you can use & plenty of apps on it too, both great for beginners.
It’s great. Hard to get into initially but keep it up & it really pays off.
I use it with some of my clients, it’s always been greatly received. I teach it too, so I’m a huge advocate for it! Haha.
You can also attend mindfulness work shops if you really wanted to get hands on with it.
Enjoy! X |
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"Check YouTube theres Loads of guided meditation videos on there.
I listen to frequency vibrations as well when I meditate 417hz works best for me, but there's loads you can try and see what works for you "
Cheers! I make music quite a lot and low frequencies like that would just make me think of bass lines.
I find music a hard one to meditate to because I'm constantly listening out for samples that I could use and I also find it hard to stay still. I try to listen to ambient sounds around me as if they are music. Only problem is they can make you jump |
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I always struggle with it. I find doing an activity (normally crafty) helps me better. There is something called flow where a task has to be hard enough to keep your attention but attainable so you can get achievement and enjoyment from it. |
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I always struggle with it. I find doing an activity (normally crafty) helps me better. There is something called flow where a task has to be hard enough to keep your attention but attainable so you can get achievement and enjoyment from it. |
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"Check YouTube theres Loads of guided meditation videos on there.
I listen to frequency vibrations as well when I meditate 417hz works best for me, but there's loads you can try and see what works for you
Cheers! I make music quite a lot and low frequencies like that would just make me think of bass lines.
I find music a hard one to meditate to because I'm constantly listening out for samples that I could use and I also find it hard to stay still. I try to listen to ambient sounds around me as if they are music. Only problem is they can make you jump "
Ah ok. Why not try and find some ambient sounds recordings? That way you wouldn't have to worry about being disturbed?
Or you could try amsr binaural sounds which when listened to through ear phones is similar to having your ears played with hahaha it's both relaxing and disturbing.
If you don't mind I'll pm you the link of the one I use? |
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I find it hard to meditate alone at home. Much prefer going to the guided meditation or subject related meditation classes. Depends where you live but google and try to go to one. I go to KMC (kadampa meditation centre) and visit their temple or classes when I travel the world as my job involves that.
It’s definitely helped as I have a very overactive mind. |
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"I always struggle with it. I find doing an activity (normally crafty) helps me better. There is something called flow where a task has to be hard enough to keep your attention but attainable so you can get achievement and enjoyment from it."
Yeah I find painting and drawing help me. Only problem is I always have music on when doing anything like that which kinda ruins the stillness... gotta love a a good beat though |
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"Check YouTube theres Loads of guided meditation videos on there.
I listen to frequency vibrations as well when I meditate 417hz works best for me, but there's loads you can try and see what works for you
Cheers! I make music quite a lot and low frequencies like that would just make me think of bass lines.
I find music a hard one to meditate to because I'm constantly listening out for samples that I could use and I also find it hard to stay still. I try to listen to ambient sounds around me as if they are music. Only problem is they can make you jump
Ah ok. Why not try and find some ambient sounds recordings? That way you wouldn't have to worry about being disturbed?
Or you could try amsr binaural sounds which when listened to through ear phones is similar to having your ears played with hahaha it's both relaxing and disturbing.
If you don't mind I'll pm you the link of the one I use? "
Yeah that's a good idea. I guess it's because I was shown how to meditate in noisy environments when I first started. Ambient sounds on YouTube is a good idea though.
Yeah send them through as those definitely sound interesting! Thanks!
I don't know why but it has reminded me of an exhibition I went to with a 100% sound proof room. Was a crazy experience which made you realise how sensitive out hearing is |
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"I find it hard to meditate alone at home. Much prefer going to the guided meditation or subject related meditation classes. Depends where you live but google and try to go to one. I go to KMC (kadampa meditation centre) and visit their temple or classes when I travel the world as my job involves that.
It’s definitely helped as I have a very overactive mind. "
Yeah I definitely find it hard on my own. Thanks for the advice though! Been meaning to check a centre out for a while now. Only reason I haven't is because of how busy I am... then again, when I said I don't have time to meditate to the monk I befriended, he asked me whether I have time to breath. I'm guessing he got asked told that a lot by westerners |
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"I find it hard to meditate alone at home. Much prefer going to the guided meditation or subject related meditation classes. Depends where you live but google and try to go to one. I go to KMC (kadampa meditation centre) and visit their temple or classes when I travel the world as my job involves that.
It’s definitely helped as I have a very overactive mind.
Yeah I definitely find it hard on my own. Thanks for the advice though! Been meaning to check a centre out for a while now. Only reason I haven't is because of how busy I am... then again, when I said I don't have time to meditate to the monk I befriended, he asked me whether I have time to breath. I'm guessing he got asked told that a lot by westerners"
Apps have already been mentioned. Try Headspace. |
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