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From t’internet:
A "Cross dresser" is a general term for any person who routinely wears clothing typical of another gender, regardless of their reasons for doing so. A "transvestite" is typically a male, often heterosexual, who regularly wears female clothing as a sexual fetish or as an act of expression of social defiance etc.  |
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If you put any two trans people in a room and ask them to discuss this, they will disagree. If you only have one trans person, they will disagree with themselves!
Personally I will describe myself as cd, or tv, or tg, or just trans, at different times to different people. I might also describe myself as bi-gendered, a trans woman, a tgirl, gender variant. Any other trans person will disagree with me. I'm fairly sure that I'm not ts, although I know people who have similarly to me not yet had any medical intervention who do regard themselves as ts.
Confused? Well then you are starting to understand... Polly xx |
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I alway thought they meant the same thing.
Crossdress in English.
Transvestite in Latin.
Not quite though. Think TV is a made up medical / psychological word from Latin. Trans = across Vestitus = clothes
So TV is a Doctors term. CD is a layman’s.
Pointless labels both. Just be you.
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"I alway thought they meant the same thing.
Crossdress in English.
Transvestite in Latin.
Not quite though. Think TV is a made up medical / psychological word from Latin. Trans = across Vestitus = clothes
So TV is a Doctors term. CD is a layman’s.
Pointless labels both. Just be you.
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I think for me it's a way of being identified as not Transgendered because I'm not, I'm a man who enjoys wearing female clothing, I could say I'm a crossdresser. |
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I've always seen the labels as such:
CD
A person who wears the other genders clothing but makes no effort to look like the other gender or take on the other genders mannerisms and behaviour.
TV
A person who wears the other genders clothing and assumes that genders behaviour to the point of having a distinctly different personality whilst Dressed (and only whilst in that Mode).
It's the difference between Dave wearing knickers, bra, stockings and a cami and Davina who will shave/wax smooth legs, chest and back (genitals optional), before going through her wardrobe selecting an outfit that complements her body whilst accentuating its feminine form and putting on carefully make up so as to not look like a drag queen with its overly dramatic make up.
Inserts, gaff and equivalents often optional but usually used.
Tldr
Bloke in a dress vs some one who's gone through the effort to feminise and assumes a persona the opposite gender to thier own.
Based on chats with friends who are CD, TV and TS (which is a whole other ball game entirely).
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I’m a TV well that’s what I describe myself as. I dress fully make up the works and do go out occasionally dressed. I’m not a trans woman or trans gender underneath the clothing I’m a bi guy. But I only meet other TV/TS and couples I don’t meet guys wether straight or bi. |
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"I've always seen the labels as such:
CD
A person who wears the other genders clothing but makes no effort to look like the other gender or take on the other genders mannerisms and behaviour.
TV
A person who wears the other genders clothing and assumes that genders behaviour to the point of having a distinctly different personality whilst Dressed (and only whilst in that Mode).
It's the difference between Dave wearing knickers, bra, stockings and a cami and Davina who will shave/wax smooth legs, chest and back (genitals optional), before going through her wardrobe selecting an outfit that complements her body whilst accentuating its feminine form and putting on carefully make up so as to not look like a drag queen with its overly dramatic make up.
Inserts, gaff and equivalents often optional but usually used.
Tldr
Bloke in a dress vs some one who's gone through the effort to feminise and assumes a persona the opposite gender to thier own.
Based on chats with friends who are CD, TV and TS (which is a whole other ball game entirely).
Mr GR "
This is basically how I'd describe it.
To me a crossdresser covers people who do just that, cross dress, so that covers people who just wear underwear up to people who dress fully. Crossdressers to me so it almost purely for sexual reasons.
I call myself a transvestite and to me transvestite are people who go the whole hog. Smooth body, full outfits, makeup, hair, the lot. It's not done purely for sexual reasons but is normally just a part of who that person is. I've dressed since I was a child and didn't even know what I was doing, just that I enjoyed it. I will spend weekends as lilly without any thought for sexual fun, I do it just because it's part of who I am. When you dress you basically want to be as close to a woman as you can.
Of course like many things, different people interpret the meanings in different ways but I personally don't like being called a crossdresser because I feel it lumps me in with people like hairy panty wearers and belittles the efforts I go through to try to look my best |
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I label myself as a crodresser as I don't shave my body hair, but I do try to cover that up with long sleeved tops or dresses, opaque hold ups. I also wear make up and a wig, I am not totally convincing but I am close.
To me a transvestite it someone who looks convincing as a woman, but isn't considering going through the transitioning process to become a woman just yet. |
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"If you put any two trans people in a room and ask them to discuss this, they will disagree. If you only have one trans person, they will disagree with themselves!
Personally I will describe myself as cd, or tv, or tg, or just trans, at different times to different people. I might also describe myself as bi-gendered, a trans woman, a tgirl, gender variant. Any other trans person will disagree with me. I'm fairly sure that I'm not ts, although I know people who have similarly to me not yet had any medical intervention who do regard themselves as ts.
Confused? Well then you are starting to understand... Polly xx"
yes lots of ppl have there opinions think the difference is more obvious between TGs and TVs personallly  |
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I am not that bothered how people describe me. I think there are some people who are genuinely don't know how to differentiate. As long as I can live,work as a woman and have Miss before my name, I'm happy! I still my ding-a-ling by the way. |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"If you put any two trans people in a room and ask them to discuss this, they will disagree. If you only have one trans person, they will disagree with themselves!
Personally I will describe myself as cd, or tv, or tg, or just trans, at different times to different people. I might also describe myself as bi-gendered, a trans woman, a tgirl, gender variant. Any other trans person will disagree with me. I'm fairly sure that I'm not ts, although I know people who have similarly to me not yet had any medical intervention who do regard themselves as ts.
Confused? Well then you are starting to understand... Polly xx"
And to add to the confusion, there are different meanings in US English and British English.
It's a spectrum - and an incredibly diverse one at that.
Transgender has become the new buzz word.
I find it pretty meaningless, because it encompasses so much it lacks any definition.
I always understand transexual and I always had a gooding understanding of transvestite, or T-girl as some preferred.
Transgender is nebulous, really.
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"If you put any two trans people in a room and ask them to discuss this, they will disagree. If you only have one trans person, they will disagree with themselves!
Personally I will describe myself as cd, or tv, or tg, or just trans, at different times to different people. I might also describe myself as bi-gendered, a trans woman, a tgirl, gender variant. Any other trans person will disagree with me. I'm fairly sure that I'm not ts, although I know people who have similarly to me not yet had any medical intervention who do regard themselves as ts.
Confused? Well then you are starting to understand... Polly xx
And to add to the confusion, there are different meanings in US English and British English.
It's a spectrum - and an incredibly diverse one at that.
Transgender has become the new buzz word.
I find it pretty meaningless, because it encompasses so much it lacks any definition.
I always understand transexual and I always had a gooding understanding of transvestite, or T-girl as some preferred.
Transgender is nebulous, really.
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I think it changed from transexual to transgender because of the word sexual and people don't understand there's a difference between gender and sexuality |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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Technically speaking, I think you are right Lilly.
The problem, as I see it reflected in the current debate about transgender women and self-declaration, is that it opens up the interpretation beyond those who live their lives wholly as feminine individuals, those whom previously I would have described as transexual, and for some extends to those doing it for kicks. It allows conflation of opposite ends of spectrum. |
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I live as me
I am the same person in male clothes and female clothes . I'm just happier as a person when presenting as female .
I present as my version of female 24/7 . My hairs coloured,eyelash extensions , shaped eyebrows and my hair extensions will be gorge when fitted next week . I will be getting a boob job and laser hair removal . I won't be removing my cock because it brings me enjoyment  Hormones scare me as everyone I know who takes them go a bit crazy and I'm already crazy enough
So tv ? Cd ? Ts ? Tgirl ? Trans ?
All of them at one time or the other.
Now I realise I'm just me  Scally Princess to the end and collecting all the labels |
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By (user no longer on site)
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They are all the same, if you guys get Trans that get uppity on this subject, demanding this or that titles, just pass them by, they not for you, theres plenty of us down to earth Trans to chat too and meet |
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very interesting to read this as someone who would say there a CD but by this definition is a TV. I always felt TV was a bit old fashioned and its abbreviation to Tranny confusing it for someone on the trans spectrum.. CD or TV I don't mind have been called a lot worse LOL |
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