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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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smiths toy stores and amazon, peoples shopping habits change, a lot of markets have gone too cause you can buy cheaper online, hurray for the inter web eh  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Brexit !! How can our current position with Brexit possibly be to blame for that 
It was reportedly in trouble months ago so no surprise. "
He blames everything on Brexit.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Toys r us are massively over priced, I am amazed they have been going as long as they have to be honest...best get the kids gift cards out and take them this weekend!
Geeky x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Followed this morning by Maplins. Kinda exposes the lie that the UK economy is flourishing through all the Brexit nonsense. Strip out the greedy bastards at the top ripping us off and the real economy fuelled by wages and consumer spending is in deep shit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Followed this morning by Maplins. Kinda exposes the lie that the UK economy is flourishing through all the Brexit nonsense. Strip out the greedy bastards at the top ripping us off and the real economy fuelled by wages and consumer spending is in deep shit."
Consumers have much more choice now, we can do more than walk, we can surf and barter. Who needs an outdated Maplin, with bored husbands chatting away about bicycle lights, when you can click click and it's in your home, without Brian telling me about his neighbours subwoofer.
It's not that hard to fathom really.
It doesn't help when big businesses, copy small independents products, this leads to less trust for them and more people shop with the little person. It's happening more and more, it's great for some, not so for others, other than the employment who's really missing toys r us |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We went to toys r us for Xmas shopping as we had vouchers that we could use there
I can see why they have gone under
Overpriced and very limited in choice
We spent about £20 in there and about £200 in smyths
Local supermarkets had a better choice and prices than them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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seen many long established local businesses close because of the council inflating rates / council tax bills with many loosing numerous jobs , the Toys are Us is because of online shopping yes , but also VAT , billions are spent on military and foreign aid , but it seems the system would rather see big names collapse than allow them to not pay bills for "services" it would make more sense to give them a break / holiday from paying , keeping jobs , |
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"Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit?"
Brexit?? Is that even a serious comment ??. Why get in your car on a cold February morning, drive 10 miles , get stuck in traffic , and spend 20 minutes trying to park when you can sit at home with a cuppa online and get someone to deliver it to your door for less money . It's a shame but that's the world now simples !!
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"People are going online. Simples.
It's sad though. Many businesses are heading this way. The question is...who's next?
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House of Fraser are twitchy.
As you say though, it really is all down to the internet these days. |
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"People are going online. Simples.
It's sad though. Many businesses are heading this way. The question is...who's next?
House of Fraser are twitchy.
As you say though, it really is all down to the internet these days. "
Not surprised. In our recent experience and that of someone else who bought from them recently they have some serious stock issues. Like their system shows stock of x,y,z but when they look it’s disappeared  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Brexit !! How can our current position with Brexit possibly be to blame for that
It was reportedly in trouble months ago so no surprise. "
maplins were specifically saying months ago that the "devaluation of the pound" has become an issue since most of their electronic stock had to come from overseas.........
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I'm not surprised, it's not the 90's anymore and online shopping has all but wiped out the need for shops like Toys R us. Particularly as most of their stores were quite a trek to get to if you lived in more rural areas. Used to love going there as a kid with my parents though! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"This is actually a good time for small local businesses to flourish . Councils will not support this, and insist on making the process and charges as restrictive as possible ."
Haha that's why in Chester its every few months a well known respected lo so retailer is shutting up shop .
Carparking ,rates rents internet all killing it off ,only thing doing well us boozers and grub |
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By *azza80Woman
over a year ago
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It is the internet that causes alot of retailers to close down.. Personally, I much prefer buying toys etc online rather than taking all my Kidz with me and spending hundreds cuz they want this and that. Online I can get twice as much for half the cost and no screaming Kidz kicking off cuz I wont buy sumthin..no question really lol xx |
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It's nothing to do with BREXIT, they just didn't have a clear strategy. They have massive stores which carry a high overhead but they aren't providing a luxury consumer experience. So what exactly would consumers pay the premium for? - they wouldn't apparently. |
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"Brexit !! How can our current position with Brexit possibly be to blame for that
It was reportedly in trouble months ago so no surprise.
maplins were specifically saying months ago that the "devaluation of the pound" has become an issue since most of their electronic stock had to come from overseas.........
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An excuse for poor management and poor management decisions ?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame China for mass producing cheap crap that people prefer.
Not sure how that relates to Toys R Us?"
People buy online, from China, instead of going to Toys r Us.
I know people who buy dance costumes from China now, because they are cheaper than the costumers in Essex. |
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"I blame China for mass producing cheap crap that people prefer.
Not sure how that relates to Toys R Us?
People buy online, from China, instead of going to Toys r Us.
I know people who buy dance costumes from China now, because they are cheaper than the costumers in Essex. "
You think a major cause of Toys r Us downfall was parents buying toys directly from China instead of from a western retailer? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame China for mass producing cheap crap that people prefer.
Not sure how that relates to Toys R Us?
People buy online, from China, instead of going to Toys r Us.
I know people who buy dance costumes from China now, because they are cheaper than the costumers in Essex.
You think a major cause of Toys r Us downfall was parents buying toys directly from China instead of from a western retailer? "
Online shopping hasn't helped sales but I just read the FT article and it has all become clearer. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame China for mass producing cheap crap that people prefer.
Not sure how that relates to Toys R Us?
People buy online, from China, instead of going to Toys r Us.
I know people who buy dance costumes from China now, because they are cheaper than the costumers in Essex.
You think a major cause of Toys r Us downfall was parents buying toys directly from China instead of from a western retailer?
Online shopping hasn't helped sales but I just read the FT article and it has all become clearer. "
One of their problems being their rent bill, apparently. |
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"I blame China for mass producing cheap crap that people prefer.
Not sure how that relates to Toys R Us?
People buy online, from China, instead of going to Toys r Us.
I know people who buy dance costumes from China now, because they are cheaper than the costumers in Essex.
You think a major cause of Toys r Us downfall was parents buying toys directly from China instead of from a western retailer?
Online shopping hasn't helped sales but I just read the FT article and it has all become clearer. "
It wasn't really the chinese who brought down Toy R Us was it? |
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And also brochures posted through the year to your door.. also the telephone ordering plays apart was there before the Internet a forerunner if you like, the two together are a powerful team which I do use, but as some one said earlier the council won,t allow local small business,s to operate. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I blame China for mass producing cheap crap that people prefer.
Not sure how that relates to Toys R Us?
People buy online, from China, instead of going to Toys r Us.
I know people who buy dance costumes from China now, because they are cheaper than the costumers in Essex.
You think a major cause of Toys r Us downfall was parents buying toys directly from China instead of from a western retailer?
Online shopping hasn't helped sales but I just read the FT article and it has all become clearer.
It wasn't really the chinese who brought down Toy R Us was it?"
nope. But, I still say China's cheap imitations are a factor in a drop in toy sales. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And also brochures posted through the year to your door.. also the telephone ordering plays apart was there before the Internet a forerunner if you like, the two together are a powerful team which I do use, but as some one said earlier the council won,t allow local small business,s to operate."
They aren't a small business. Our local Smyths has closed too. Woolworths were a big toy supplier and they closed. People aren't buying from stores as much. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s the internet shopping revolution. Time for a re think on town centres and indeed out of town retail parks."
they need to make parking in town free to tempt ppl back into the shops.far too many places charge a rip off fee to park in town so ppl just shop online |
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"And also brochures posted through the year to your door.. also the telephone ordering plays apart was there before the Internet a forerunner if you like, the two together are a powerful team which I do use, but as some one said earlier the council won,t allow local small business,s to operate.
They aren't a small business. Our local Smyths has closed too. Woolworths were a big toy supplier and they closed. People aren't buying from stores as much. "
My daughters past that stage. Where do people buy toys from now ? |
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"I blame China for mass producing cheap crap that people prefer.
Not sure how that relates to Toys R Us?
People buy online, from China, instead of going to Toys r Us.
I know people who buy dance costumes from China now, because they are cheaper than the costumers in Essex.
You think a major cause of Toys r Us downfall was parents buying toys directly from China instead of from a western retailer?
Online shopping hasn't helped sales but I just read the FT article and it has all become clearer.
It wasn't really the chinese who brought down Toy R Us was it?
nope. But, I still say China's cheap imitations are a factor in a drop in toy sales. "
If people switch their buying habits because of lower prices, the it shows they were overserved by the previous offerings. Dealing with this is business strategy 101 which Toy R Us lacked. Not to say that they aren't in a tough market but tough market just means you have less margin for error. Their errors were too large for most markets. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It’s the internet shopping revolution. Time for a re think on town centres and indeed out of town retail parks.
they need to make parking in town free to tempt ppl back into the shops.far too many places charge a rip off fee to park in town so ppl just shop online"
The carrying home big box toys was the hard part for me. It's easier to get things delivered than carrying them to your car or on public transport. |
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Retail is a scary fast changing and cut throat world. You think you've come up with a great innovative business model and expand fast. Couple of decades down the line your in the shit.
Take for example Blockbuster Video in the UK. 1989 cutting edge entertainment technology and branch pretty much in every town to 2013 totally obsolete and all branches gone. |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
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For me, I can order my games online from amazon, get next day and for some things smae day for cheaper than toys r us were selling for them.
I didn’t need to get dressed, get in car or go by bus to a massive out of town centre. Then to carry it home, sit in traffic, sit next to smelly people.
I can sit naked, wait till it gets posted through letterbox. Job done  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"seen many long established local businesses close because of the council inflating rates / council tax bills with many loosing numerous jobs , the Toys are Us is because of online shopping yes , but also VAT , billions are spent on military and foreign aid , but it seems the system would rather see big names collapse than allow them to not pay bills for "services" it would make more sense to give them a break / holiday from paying , keeping jobs , "
That's all temporary, the internet is permanent. Unfortunately more big retail outlets to follow. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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" For me, I can order my games online from amazon, get next day and for some things smae day for cheaper than toys r us were selling for them.
I didn’t need to get dressed, get in car or go by bus to a massive out of town centre. Then to carry it home, sit in traffic, sit next to smelly people.
I can sit naked, wait till it gets posted through letterbox. Job done "
exactly... toys r us issues were a combination of internet shopping where they didn't have the overheads that they did so could basically undercut them... and the rates/business taxes they were paying on all their warehouse type stores.......
it was an concept that had basically outlived itself...
like i said, the company i feel more sorry for is maplin, because they had a business concept that was working.... it was the devaluation of the pound that basically killed then by sending their overheads thru the roof.......
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I suspect for both businesses the drop in the pound has certainly been a factor. You can blame that on Brexit if you like, or maybe you think that was a realignment that would have happened anyway, which is probably true.
Ordering everything online is all well & good, but the government really has to work out how to make up for the lost tax revenues.
We've all ordered from China & hoped our package doesn't get stopped for customs duty -and mostly these days it doesn't seem to happen. We all know Amazon do everything they can to 'avoid' paying taxes, though I presume they at least collect & pay VAT.
At the moment of course any online purchases from the EU don't attract taxes on entry. Given we seem to have done an about turn on remaining in the custom's union, I assume all personal imports of this nature will in future attract import duty....I still remember the old days of bringing booze back from France (where you paid a fraction of what you paid here), but ran the risk of being stopped at Dover & being charged duty if you went over the meagre personal allowance!!
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"Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit?"
Erm bro Brexit hasn't happened yet.
It's Amazon, they devour all in their path. AND you don't get a fucking free bookmark when you buy from them anymore. Cunts. |
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By *ikeC81Man
over a year ago
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"I suspect for both businesses the drop in the pound has certainly been a factor. You can blame that on Brexit if you like, or maybe you think that was a realignment that would have happened anyway, which is probably true.
Ordering everything online is all well & good, but the government really has to work out how to make up for the lost tax revenues.
We've all ordered from China & hoped our package doesn't get stopped for customs duty -and mostly these days it doesn't seem to happen. We all know Amazon do everything they can to 'avoid' paying taxes, though I presume they at least collect & pay VAT.
At the moment of course any online purchases from the EU don't attract taxes on entry. Given we seem to have done an about turn on remaining in the custom's union, I assume all personal imports of this nature will in future attract import duty....I still remember the old days of bringing booze back from France (where you paid a fraction of what you paid here), but ran the risk of being stopped at Dover & being charged duty if you went over the meagre personal allowance!!
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Amazon don’t avoid tax - it’s the legislation that allows them to utilise beneficial tax opertuniites.
I know this because I know people that work there |
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"Retail is a scary fast changing and cut throat world. You think you've come up with a great innovative business model and expand fast. Couple of decades down the line your in the shit.
Take for example Blockbuster Video in the UK. 1989 cutting edge entertainment technology and branch pretty much in every town to 2013 totally obsolete and all branches gone. "
Blockbuster developed on online subscription service that had as many members as netflix. Then they ended it as part of cost saving measures and gave the entire market to netflix. They were also extremely rude to executives when Netflix offered to sell out to them. Behind all these sub stories are bad business decisions. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit?"
It has nothing to do with Brexit!!!
America’s Toys R Us stores went into administration just after Christmas it was just a matter of time before it hit us
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By (user no longer on site)
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This is a laugh ,totally deluded swingers that think toys r us don't already sell Chinese stuff ..get real they have for nearly 25 years its the overheads a d lack of sales due to what I already said causing the problems they have... end of |
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"This is a laugh ,totally deluded swingers that think toys r us don't already sell Chinese stuff ..get real they have for nearly 25 years its the overheads a d lack of sales due to what I already said causing the problems they have... end of"
its a joke that many dont know that some of the eenyweenybitsies in their phones..come from china too  |
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Toy r us will got he same way as hmv
Both massive players in their respective fields, with huge market influence in their heyday, they should have managed the market better and gone online fast, rather than burying their heads in the sand. I feel for the staff, but the company is a dinosaur! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This is a laugh ,totally deluded swingers that think toys r us don't already sell Chinese stuff ..get real they have for nearly 25 years its the overheads a d lack of sales due to what I already said causing the problems they have... end of
its a joke that many dont know that some of the eenyweenybitsies in their phones..come from china too "
We know. We know.
China has always sent goods over for us to buy in stores. Now we can get them straight from China and cut out the middle man.
Incidentally, there's now a freight train that comes straight from China to Dagenham/Barking. |
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"This is a laugh ,totally deluded swingers that think toys r us don't already sell Chinese stuff ..get real they have for nearly 25 years its the overheads a d lack of sales due to what I already said causing the problems they have... end of
its a joke that many dont know that some of the eenyweenybitsies in their phones..come from china too
We know. We know.
China has always sent goods over for us to buy in stores. Now we can get them straight from China and cut out the middle man.
Incidentally, there's now a freight train that comes straight from China to Dagenham/Barking. "
You can buy direct from China if you want to risk it, but it’s not a viable (and sometimes legal) method of buying consumer goods.
The ‘New Silk Road’ on paper looks good, with a transit time of 18 days (compared to 26-36 days by sea)
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
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"Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit?"
This has been forecast since the end of last year.
Their parent company in the States went under but the UK arm was able to continue by restructuring rents from its landlords and trying to raise capital in order to continue trading.
But poor sales, stiff online competition in the run up to & over the Festive season plus huge debts in the UK including a £15m Tax bill due this week, just tipped it over the edge. |
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time |
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Brexit probably plays a role.
I mean Ireland has had a sportsware giant open 9 stores over the next year, new entrants to the market. Ireland has internet etc.
Fact is, many of these shops like toys r us, tesco, m&s are heavily exposed to ireland and some of their most profitable shops are in Ireland. If brexit was not happening, they could quote Irish profits and potential Irish growth and potentially entering other EU markets to secure the loan that saves them.
These days they dont have much to quote to get them out of trouble. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised! "
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time "
Why do you think you haven't got a chance? Have you even tried? Don't be a remoaner, go for it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Toys r us used to be fantastic, it had all your old favourites, over the last few years it’s lost it’s way, it only stocked the now in toys and half the time they didn’t have them in stock when you got there. Smiths are like the old toys r us. Maplin also never had stock when you went so you just shop else where. If your a shop you have to stock everything not I can get it for you tomorrow. It’s very sad there going but not a shock |
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
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People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit?
More likey to be Amazon."
Have you seen how they treat their package pickers? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time
Why do you think you haven't got a chance? Have you even tried? Don't be a remoaner, go for it!"
I would if i could but couldnt up root and leave my 2 kids behind (split up with there mum) so thats why am still here if i could take them with me i wouldnt be here ryt now  |
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time
Why do you think you haven't got a chance? Have you even tried? Don't be a remoaner, go for it!
I would if i could but couldnt up root and leave my 2 kids behind (split up with there mum) so thats why am still here if i could take them with me i wouldnt be here ryt now "
If you could take them, which land of paradise would you go to out of interest? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Toys r us are massively over priced, I am amazed they have been going as long as they have to be honest...best get the kids gift cards out and take them this weekend!
Geeky x"
Exactly this
Brexit has barely even begun and Toys R Us have been struggling for months, OP elaborate on how you think it's about brexit ?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be. "
erm..
even many skilled jobs will be going, lets 3d print a house and assemble it by robots  |
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be.
erm..
even many skilled jobs will be going, lets 3d print a house and assemble it by robots "
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"Don't fear the post work society it's inevitable and the machines that will do all of your jobs will create an age of abundance."
I like the idea of the venus project |
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be.
erm..
even many skilled jobs will be going, lets 3d print a house and assemble it by robots "
We can only hope so |
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be.
erm..
even many skilled jobs will be going, lets 3d print a house and assemble it by robots "
Even the lawyers and teachers will be replaced .If you think your job is safe you have no idea what's coming.. |
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"Don't fear the post work society it's inevitable and the machines that will do all of your jobs will create an age of abundance.
I like the idea of the venus project"
The 'i can't believe it's not communism' project |
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be.
erm..
even many skilled jobs will be going, lets 3d print a house and assemble it by robots Even the lawyers and teachers will be replaced .If you think your job is safe you have no idea what's coming.."
A lot of leisure time apparently. How horrific |
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time
Why do you think you haven't got a chance? Have you even tried? Don't be a remoaner, go for it!
I would if i could but couldnt up root and leave my 2 kids behind (split up with there mum) so thats why am still here if i could take them with me i wouldnt be here ryt now
If you could take them, which land of paradise would you go to out of interest? "
Not really gave it any thought would concider australia or canada |
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time
Why do you think you haven't got a chance? Have you even tried? Don't be a remoaner, go for it!
I would if i could but couldnt up root and leave my 2 kids behind (split up with there mum) so thats why am still here if i could take them with me i wouldnt be here ryt now
If you could take them, which land of paradise would you go to out of interest?
Not really gave it any thought would concider australia or canada "
Canada is run by the left wing equivalent of donald trump, but Australia is a pretty good answer to be honest |
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time
Why do you think you haven't got a chance? Have you even tried? Don't be a remoaner, go for it!
I would if i could but couldnt up root and leave my 2 kids behind (split up with there mum) so thats why am still here if i could take them with me i wouldnt be here ryt now
If you could take them, which land of paradise would you go to out of interest?
Not really gave it any thought would concider australia or canada
Canada is run by the left wing equivalent of donald trump, but Australia is a pretty good answer to be honest"
Yeah australia would probs be where i would end up i have family there aswell they love it and i am well jelous of them lol the country looks amazing and there economy is amazing compaired to ours |
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"Don't fear the post work society it's inevitable and the machines that will do all of your jobs will create an age of abundance.
I like the idea of the venus project
The 'i can't believe it's not communism' project "
I see it as holistic resource based technocracy economic model closer to technocratic socialism than communism. |
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By *esjMan
over a year ago
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My friends work in maplin and told me this morning but i knee it was a matter of time
They are heavily over priced for the same products where online they are cheaper.
Sorry but alot of people complaining on here will still not go out and buy from stores and will order online
How are we going to complain when we are part of the problem for these businesses and job losses |
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"Don't fear the post work society it's inevitable and the machines that will do all of your jobs will create an age of abundance.
I like the idea of the venus project
The 'i can't believe it's not communism' project
I see it as holistic resource based technocracy economic model closer to technocratic socialism than communism."
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"Don't fear the post work society it's inevitable and the machines that will do all of your jobs will create an age of abundance.
I like the idea of the venus project
The 'i can't believe it's not communism' project
I see it as holistic resource based technocracy economic model closer to technocratic socialism than communism."
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"My friends work in maplin and told me this morning but i knee it was a matter of time
They are heavily over priced for the same products where online they are cheaper.
Sorry but alot of people complaining on here will still not go out and buy from stores and will order online
How are we going to complain when we are part of the problem for these businesses and job losses"
No the lack of business strategy is to blame. A capitalist business cannot blame customers for not trading with it |
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"Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit?"
Nothing to do with Brexit, they and Maplins have been loosing money for years. |
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time "
I shop online because I don't have a car and have to carry stuff home. I do not consider that sitting on my arse doing nothing.
People also have to shop around for the cheapest deals on stuff. For instance I can save a lot of money on cat flea treatment online, compared to shops.
Whilst it's true jobs are being lost in retail shops, jobs have been created in online stores and delivery companies.
It's called progress.
I don't know where you get your argument that people are sitting on their arses doing nothing from. Remember that a vast number of people ordering online will be working.
If you dislike this country so much then off you go to the place you prefer. Where would you rather live then? Russia.. the home of the radio active tea poisoners..China...where citizens are treated like animals...America....where they shoot each other Willy nilly???
All in all this ain't a bad country to live in. |
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"Who would of thought that this super giant would go into administration? Putting 3,000 jobs at risk, how come it went like this, could one reason be brexit?"
Hardly it was reported last year that the usa arm was filing for bankrucy |
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"It’s the internet shopping revolution. Time for a re think on town centres and indeed out of town retail parks."
This is the reason for the decline of shop based retail, everything is cheaper online. Many online sellers don't even hold stock, they can automate 90% of the buying process and items are sent directly from the manufacturer or importer. Their overheads are minute compared to a REAL shop.
I try my best to use local specialist shops (especially bike & music shops) whenever I can, if we don't use them they will disappear.
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time
I shop online because I don't have a car and have to carry stuff home. I do not consider that sitting on my arse doing nothing.
People also have to shop around for the cheapest deals on stuff. For instance I can save a lot of money on cat flea treatment online, compared to shops.
Whilst it's true jobs are being lost in retail shops, jobs have been created in online stores and delivery companies.
It's called progress.
I don't know where you get your argument that people are sitting on their arses doing nothing from. Remember that a vast number of people ordering online will be working.
If you dislike this country so much then off you go to the place you prefer. Where would you rather live then? Russia.. the home of the radio active tea poisoners..China...where citizens are treated like animals...America....where they shoot each other Willy nilly???
All in all this ain't a bad country to live in."
Lmfao ok didnt mean to step on ure toes but if you think living in this country aint so bad thats your opinion just not mine and i wasnt getting angry at anyone for not working etc thats there choice if people think online is the way to go who am i to say its wrong or not the uk is in a shit state and if people cant see that then theve obviosly had the wool pulled over there eyes and am.not here for a big goverment debate on politics etc i have my opinion you have yours lets shakes hands and leave it at that |
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"There will be more superstores closing this year due to brexit shopping online will become the new way of shopping people will get lazy due to sitting on there arse and doing nothing what else can people do when they havent got a job to go to if i had a chance i would move to a different country the uk is fucked big time
I shop online because I don't have a car and have to carry stuff home. I do not consider that sitting on my arse doing nothing.
People also have to shop around for the cheapest deals on stuff. For instance I can save a lot of money on cat flea treatment online, compared to shops.
Whilst it's true jobs are being lost in retail shops, jobs have been created in online stores and delivery companies.
It's called progress.
I don't know where you get your argument that people are sitting on their arses doing nothing from. Remember that a vast number of people ordering online will be working.
If you dislike this country so much then off you go to the place you prefer. Where would you rather live then? Russia.. the home of the radio active tea poisoners..China...where citizens are treated like animals...America....where they shoot each other Willy nilly???
All in all this ain't a bad country to live in.
Lmfao ok didnt mean to step on ure toes but if you think living in this country aint so bad thats your opinion just not mine and i wasnt getting angry at anyone for not working etc thats there choice if people think online is the way to go who am i to say its wrong or not the uk is in a shit state and if people cant see that then theve obviosly had the wool pulled over there eyes and am.not here for a big goverment debate on politics etc i have my opinion you have yours lets shakes hands and leave it at that "
Look if you were going to be born in a random country that you would pick out of a hat, you'd be ecstatic if you picked the UK given all the possible alternatives. It's easily in the top 10% of countries worldwide, so whatever its problems, it could be a lot worse. |
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"This is a laugh ,totally deluded swingers that think toys r us don't already sell Chinese stuff ..get real they have for nearly 25 years its the overheads a d lack of sales due to what I already said causing the problems they have... end of
its a joke that many dont know that dome of the eenyweenybitsies in their phones..come from china too "
When I found out just which major sports shoe ,phone & motor manufacturers make stuff in China you stop and think that's how you make money by taking advantage if cheap Labour and materials |
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"My friends work in maplin and told me this morning but i knee it was a matter of time
They are heavily over priced for the same products where online they are cheaper.
Sorry but alot of people complaining on here will still not go out and buy from stores and will order online
How are we going to complain when we are part of the problem for these businesses and job losses"
They are not overpriced when you take the small word with a devastating meaning called on we heads Into account ,I buy stuff off ebay that's just as good or better than halfords and less than half the price ,its all about knowing where to buy and stuff from China is always gonna be cheaper than a maplins
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The thing is you see any high street and they are ghost towns little choice and closed shop fronts or discount shops the old brands will struggle to compete I think marks and Spencer will struggle next. Plus people need every penny they earn to survive and haven't got the luxury spare cash x |
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"People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be. "
You're joking? Pretty much everyone outside of the UK knows that if you have no skills you can go to the UK and get a job. A job british people wont want but you will get one.
In fact, the one plus of brexit will be, British people will have no choice but to take these unskilled jobs and unemployment will go down.
Ireland cant build enough offices for the skilled jobs leaving. Whole office blocks are being bought off the blueprints. |
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"This is a laugh ,totally deluded swingers that think toys r us don't already sell Chinese stuff ..get real they have for nearly 25 years its the overheads a d lack of sales due to what I already said causing the problems they have... end of
its a joke that many dont know that dome of the eenyweenybitsies in their phones..come from china too
When I found out just which major sports shoe ,phone & motor manufacturers make stuff in China you stop and think that's how you make money by taking advantage if cheap Labour and materials"
its a region of the world that has huge pollution(which affects us all, but that IS the market, and where the demand in the market is high...people become pretty expendable as does the environment. |
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"The thing is you see any high street and they are ghost towns little choice and closed shop fronts or discount shops the old brands will struggle to compete I think marks and Spencer will struggle next. Plus people need every penny they earn to survive and haven't got the luxury spare cash x"
dunno about M+S quite yet..I would say Jessops(over priced and pretty specialist)I doubt even peter jones will keep it afloat. |
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"My friends work in maplin and told me this morning but i knee it was a matter of time
They are heavily over priced for the same products where online they are cheaper.
Sorry but alot of people complaining on here will still not go out and buy from stores and will order online
How are we going to complain when we are part of the problem for these businesses and job losses
They are not overpriced when you take the small word with a devastating meaning called on we heads Into account ,I buy stuff off ebay that's just as good or better than halfords and less than half the price ,its all about knowing where to buy and stuff from China is always gonna be cheaper than a maplins
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Some of those “overheads” are to do with costs associated with quality testing so the product conforms with safe standards for the uk.
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be. "
There’s always a demand for unskilled work. Who do you think cleans offices and hospitals, picks the fruit and veg that can’t be done automatically, etc? A lot of this is done by migrant workers from the EU. So while we might not think there is a need for unskilled workers there is actually a shortage and fruit and veg cannnot be harvested and goes to waste. |
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"The thing is you see any high street and they are ghost towns little choice and closed shop fronts or discount shops the old brands will struggle to compete I think marks and Spencer will struggle next. Plus people need every penny they earn to survive and haven't got the luxury spare cash x
dunno about M+S quite yet..I would say Jessops(over priced and pretty specialist)I doubt even peter jones will keep it afloat."
M&S are closing stores already. |
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"People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be.
You're joking? Pretty much everyone outside of the UK knows that if you have no skills you can go to the UK and get a job. A job british people wont want but you will get one.
In fact, the one plus of brexit will be, British people will have no choice but to take these unskilled jobs and unemployment will go down.
Ireland cant build enough offices for the skilled jobs leaving. Whole office blocks are being bought off the blueprints."
You have a point but I'm talking about the trajectory. We have a relative academic system meaning that not everyone can get a C or higher. Those that don't get 5 GCSEs at C are likely to be craped on until they are so demoralised they develop bad habits. They then slip into the unemploy-able category and frankly there's more of them than there are salaried, full-time, unskilled jobs anyway. |
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"If we want to keep our stores we have to use them even if it means paying slightly more. We can’t complain about them closing when we sit and order online!
We’ve become a society where kids play with games consoles and phones. Very few kids play with Lego, train sets, board games, etc. We want everything immediately and our kids are the same. We enjoy the convenience of online shopping but the minute a store closes we’re surprised!
we also send a clear message when we insist on using automated systems.
By current tech, there will be a huge rise in automation..why use a nightshift human to stack shelves, when there is an alternative that has no rights,fatique etc..
these are pretty much immediate problems we are facing and will get progressively worse for many 'unskilled' jobs.
*I love my tech..but understand what it really is doing
People who want unskilled work would be better off moving to low wage economies. There isn't mass demand for unskilled work here and hopefully there never will be.
There’s always a demand for unskilled work. Who do you think cleans offices and hospitals, picks the fruit and veg that can’t be done automatically, etc? A lot of this is done by migrant workers from the EU. So while we might not think there is a need for unskilled workers there is actually a shortage and fruit and veg cannnot be harvested and goes to waste. "
See my other post, supply outstrips demand. I'm not saying there is no demand, it's just small. |
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"It’s the internet shopping revolution. Time for a re think on town centres and indeed out of town retail parks.
This is the reason for the decline of shop based retail, everything is cheaper online. Many online sellers don't even hold stock, they can automate 90% of the buying process and items are sent directly from the manufacturer or importer. Their overheads are minute compared to a REAL shop.
I try my best to use local specialist shops (especially bike & music shops) whenever I can, if we don't use them they will disappear.
Cal "
Agree most of us are completely complicit in creating the death of physical shops. But these days peoples finances are stretched. I cant be the only one who has looked at stuff in a physical store, chosen the one I want and ordered it from the cheapest online seller. Its an environment that makes it tough for the independent retailer (unless its something niche). I know companies like AO have huge buying power and will sometimes sell some items for near no profit to maintain market share and presence.
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"It’s the internet shopping revolution. Time for a re think on town centres and indeed out of town retail parks.
This is the reason for the decline of shop based retail, everything is cheaper online. Many online sellers don't even hold stock, they can automate 90% of the buying process and items are sent directly from the manufacturer or importer. Their overheads are minute compared to a REAL shop.
I try my best to use local specialist shops (especially bike & music shops) whenever I can, if we don't use them they will disappear.
Cal
Agree most of us are completely complicit in creating the death of physical shops. But these days peoples finances are stretched. I cant be the only one who has looked at stuff in a physical store, chosen the one I want and ordered it from the cheapest online seller. Its an environment that makes it tough for the independent retailer (unless its something niche). I know companies like AO have huge buying power and will sometimes sell some items for near no profit to maintain market share and presence.
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There is no doubt that the world of shopping has changed and traditional stores struggle to compete with online.
It hasn’t helped that companies like Amazon have of course played the tax system and have gained a competitive advantage over companies that only trade in the uk and pay their fair share of corporation tax.
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We gave up toy shopping primarily in Toys r Us years ago, not because of the prices but because of the absolute shocking standard of customer service. Trying to find an employee over the age of 19 is virtually impossible to raise complaints against faulty goods, the younger ones needed everything explaining 6 times, no staff on the tills, more stock in boxes littering the aisles than in the shelf, I could go on...
We did use it to make use of 3-4-2 offers on Lego but we now do most of our toy shopping in John Lewis or Smyths, but I suspect the latter will eventually follow suit of Toys r us.
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By *ky19Man
over a year ago
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Strange, Toys R Us just opened a new store outside Reading. :/
Stop blaming brexit for everything!! That's nothing more than PR from those in charge who didn't get the outcome they wanted. |
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By *jturboMan
over a year ago
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I use to work at toys r us and a member on here is still working there, although not for much longer.
One of the issues was the millions they spent of new stores that didn't pay off.
Leeds. Wakefield, and Bradford all within a short distance from each other... no need for that at all. |
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They had a tax bill for £15m which was outstanding and needed paying but no money in the account to pay it
I bet the ceo and top managers have been getting their bonuses though |
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"Superstores killed off local shops. The internet is killing off superstores.
True.
What's goes round, comes round."
Think its called poetic justice ,that small family shop in the town centre that got ousted by toys are us can laugh now |
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