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Having recently bought some new tiles, i can't help but be horrified by how shit the old ones were. Banal flower patterns with horrible pale colours that could be paint or could be dried piss stains.
It does make me wonder whether the person putting the piss stain flower tiles in had the same thought about whatever the fuck was there before? Is it inevitable that fashions will change? I've in some cool slate looking black tiles and i can't really imagine how they could go out of fashion, surely somethings always look good - it's not like grass goes out fashion is it.
Also, what's up with those brutalist architecture buildings they build 1950-1970's - did anyone really ever think they looked good or was it just done because it's cheap and the country was broke? |
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"Modern architecture is shite, they all adhere to the notion that ornamentation is wrong or bad.
It's demoralisation. "
I do look around and notice that the best architecture is really old and we'll never see that kind of quality in new buildings. But if you look at new offices, with their glass and sleek designs, they are kind of cool albeit not exactly creative or inspiring. |
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"It’s very odd how some award winning architecture from the 1960s and 70s is absolute horror show stuff now. Moss side in Manc was a lauded project when built, for instance. "
So they actually liked it when it was built - wow! |
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There’s also some “public art” projects that haven’t worked as well as hoped for. If you have a moment, have a look at Shrewsbury’s Darwin’s Leap which is known as the “giant Slinky” and attracts every kid that fancies a good climb...! Best part of £600k to build, I think |
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"All the factories of old were all built beautifully even if they were horrific to work in. Modern factories are functional sheds."
the ones on the waterfront in Liverpool are beautiful, many now converted from warehouses into apartments. Wish we could afford one lol
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"There’s also some “public art” projects that haven’t worked as well as hoped for. If you have a moment, have a look at Shrewsbury’s Darwin’s Leap which is known as the “giant Slinky” and attracts every kid that fancies a good climb...! Best part of £600k to build, I think"
Who the flip funded that and have they been shot yet? |
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"All the factories of old were all built beautifully even if they were horrific to work in. Modern factories are functional sheds. the ones on the waterfront in Liverpool are beautiful, many now converted from warehouses into apartments. Wish we could afford one lol "
I bet they are lovely yes. imagine the space inside |
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Also, what's up with those brutalist architecture buildings they build 1950-1970's - did anyone really ever think they looked good or was it just done because it's cheap and the country was broke? "
Communists and commie lovers promoted it. Not sure if they have changed their minds today.
They intended to, and partially succeeded in destroying traditional building skills.
People love the traditional houses - they have the highest prices for a reason.
The pity of it is that it is still possible to build traditional architecture but it doesn't get accomplished that often.
Most modern architecture gets torn down, it isn't loved by the next generation or new buyers and that says all you know to know about 'sustainability'.
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"Modern architecture is shite, they all adhere to the notion that ornamentation is wrong or bad.
It's demoralisation.
I do look around and notice that the best architecture is really old and we'll never see that kind of quality in new buildings. But if you look at new offices, with their glass and sleek designs, they are kind of cool albeit not exactly creative or inspiring. "
It's not that new architecture is bad, but modern architecture is very suspect on a number of grounds.
First engineers know that steel and glass conduct heat straight out of a house. So we build skyscrapers made out of the most thermally conductive materials we know and then call for sustainable energy use...
If that's a joke it's in poor taste.
Then there is the fact that modern architecture does not stick around. It doesn't get handed to the next generation or even to the next buyer. It is almost always torn down and replaced with the 'latest' modern architecture replacement.
Some modern architecture may be good, but the fact is that the modern architecture movement is McDonalds. Cheap to make, appears glamorous at the start, real costs show up later, and churned out in quantity because it's not intended to fill you up but be coming back for more. |
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Also, what's up with those brutalist architecture buildings they build 1950-1970's - did anyone really ever think they looked good or was it just done because it's cheap and the country was broke?
Communists and commie lovers promoted it. Not sure if they have changed their minds today.
They intended to, and partially succeeded in destroying traditional building skills.
People love the traditional houses - they have the highest prices for a reason.
The pity of it is that it is still possible to build traditional architecture but it doesn't get accomplished that often.
Most modern architecture gets torn down, it isn't loved by the next generation or new buyers and that says all you know to know about 'sustainability'.
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I think that any kind of building that you'd want to show a tourist won't be built again (cathedrals, castles, palaces, parliment etc). Whilst i understand that we don't really need any new castles, there is a sad trend that everything needs to be decided 'rationally' on some kind of short term business case. |
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"Modern architecture is shite, they all adhere to the notion that ornamentation is wrong or bad.
It's demoralisation.
I do look around and notice that the best architecture is really old and we'll never see that kind of quality in new buildings. But if you look at new offices, with their glass and sleek designs, they are kind of cool albeit not exactly creative or inspiring. "
I quite like what theyve done here in Ledds where they converted a lot of 1800's/1900's wharf and mill buildings into offices. Restored parts of them to Classicalesque designs but hydridised them with modern ornamentation, eg Victorian brickwork arches of an old warehouse filled in with glass to make the interior office space brighter. |
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"Modern architecture is shite, they all adhere to the notion that ornamentation is wrong or bad.
It's demoralisation.
I do look around and notice that the best architecture is really old and we'll never see that kind of quality in new buildings. But if you look at new offices, with their glass and sleek designs, they are kind of cool albeit not exactly creative or inspiring. "
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The Victorians had a sense of purpose, don't die rich, die leaving something worthwhile which is why you see so many grandiose buildings and parks |
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"Modern architecture is shite, they all adhere to the notion that ornamentation is wrong or bad.
It's demoralisation.
I do look around and notice that the best architecture is really old and we'll never see that kind of quality in new buildings. But if you look at new offices, with their glass and sleek designs, they are kind of cool albeit not exactly creative or inspiring. .
The Victorians had a sense of purpose, don't die rich, die leaving something worthwhile which is why you see so many grandiose buildings and parks"
I agree with that, but also things used to get built over much longer periods, in phases. Therefore budget was less of a constraint because it could be stretched out. |
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There's a train of thought in construction that modern architects struggle to "finish off" buildings. Look up at the tops of older buildings and their roofs then compare to modern buildings. |
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"There's a train of thought in construction that modern architects struggle to "finish off" buildings. Look up at the tops of older buildings and their roofs then compare to modern buildings."
I tell my grandchildren to look up, when we visit London. So many old buildings have sculptures and statues adorning them. |
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Fashions for most things change and people often don't know what styles that might exist would be better, so stick with the mass produced stuff around.
Some of the post war architecture was stunning though. I hope a lot gets protected, due to its unique character and style |
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"Fashions for most things change and people often don't know what styles that might exist would be better, so stick with the mass produced stuff around.
Some of the post war architecture was stunning though. I hope a lot gets protected, due to its unique character and style "
Any examples you'd recommend i google? |
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"Fashions for most things change and people often don't know what styles that might exist would be better, so stick with the mass produced stuff around.
Some of the post war architecture was stunning though. I hope a lot gets protected, due to its unique character and style
Any examples you'd recommend i google? "
Habitat 67 |
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"Fashions for most things change and people often don't know what styles that might exist would be better, so stick with the mass produced stuff around.
Some of the post war architecture was stunning though. I hope a lot gets protected, due to its unique character and style
Any examples you'd recommend i google?
Habitat 67"
It looks like something they designed using minecraft  |
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"Modern architecture is shite, they all adhere to the notion that ornamentation is wrong or bad.
It's demoralisation.
I do look around and notice that the best architecture is really old and we'll never see that kind of quality in new buildings. But if you look at new offices, with their glass and sleek designs, they are kind of cool albeit not exactly creative or inspiring. .
The Victorians had a sense of purpose, don't die rich, die leaving something worthwhile which is why you see so many grandiose buildings and parks
I agree with that, but also things used to get built over much longer periods, in phases. Therefore budget was less of a constraint because it could be stretched out."
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That was actually more of a constraint of actual building than money.
Modern buildings are built for a purpose which is to derive profit, profit is the driving force behind the build cost and the architecture.
If you really want to see something built for the sake of building it I suggest a trip to crossness pumping station  |
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"People complaining about modern architecture remind me of the same people that complain that today's kids "don't even listen to real music" "
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So true, I mean the kids today, the music is fucking awful |
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"People complaining about modern architecture remind me of the same people that complain that today's kids "don't even listen to real music" .
So true, I mean the kids today, the music is fucking awful "
Art is not 100% subjective. It's a fact that the variety in music lyrics and tunes has reduced (i.e. songs are more similar now) and vocal enhancement has increased. |
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"People complaining about modern architecture remind me of the same people that complain that today's kids "don't even listen to real music" .
So true, I mean the kids today, the music is fucking awful "
It's true.
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" I've in some cool slate looking black tiles and i can't really imagine how they could go out of fashion
It's not 2003 anymore "
Yes black slate tiles aren't "cool" in my eyes either.
Just cold. |
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" I've in some cool slate looking black tiles and i can't really imagine how they could go out of fashion
It's not 2003 anymore
Yes black slate tiles aren't "cool" in my eyes either.
Just cold."
What 
It's black and a nice black. There's really nothing to dislike. |
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" I've in some cool slate looking black tiles and i can't really imagine how they could go out of fashion
It's not 2003 anymore
Yes black slate tiles aren't "cool" in my eyes either.
Just cold.
What
It's black and a nice black. There's really nothing to dislike. "
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that.
Black slate regardless of shade isn't beautiful to me.
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"There’s also some “public art” projects that haven’t worked as well as hoped for. If you have a moment, have a look at Shrewsbury’s Darwin’s Leap which is known as the “giant Slinky” and attracts every kid that fancies a good climb...! Best part of £600k to build, I think
Who the flip funded that and have they been shot yet?"
lol it was a public art project in 2005-10 approx and by the time it was finished the council that commissioned had merged with someone else, all the councillors and senior managers had left so the eyesore was left with nobody admitting they were accountable! Local government at its finest  |
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