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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise? |
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
"So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise? "
Anyone else?! |
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over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really"
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good "
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time? |
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over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time? "
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.  |
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too. "
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls."
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did  |
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls.
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did "
Practice, practise, practice. |
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By *arksMan
over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls.
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did "
It could help when trying to hit the high notes |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls.
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did
It could help when trying to hit the high notes "
Only if he squashes my balls |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have a guitar and a bass...learning them is a bit of an over exageration...I am bloody useless but I gind tabs easier than chords...another thing that just does not stay in my head  |
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
"I have a guitar and a bass...learning them is a bit of an over exageration...I am bloody useless but I gind tabs easier than chords...another thing that just does not stay in my head "
I used to prefer tabs to start with, but find it easier to play/find songs using chords.
As frustrating as it can and will be, it does slowly come together. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You only need 4 chords .Play till your fingers bleed.Thats what I did for the first few years.
4?! I'm just playing with the 3 chords at the moment."
Status Quo then |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have a guitar and a bass...learning them is a bit of an over exageration...I am bloody useless but I gind tabs easier than chords...another thing that just does not stay in my head
I used to prefer tabs to start with, but find it easier to play/find songs using chords.
As frustrating as it can and will be, it does slowly come together."
Have you tried the guitar tabs app? |
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By *arksMan
over a year ago
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I’ve owned several over the years but have never learned to play anything , I get frustrated that I can’t seem to get to grips with it even though I’m usually pretty good at picking things up , the guitar has always eluded me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise? "
I've been playing for about 35 years on and off, but never had lessons or formally tried to learn, just picked up a guitar and tried to see what I could do with it.
I was never really very good and as I haven't played much for quite a few years, I've got worse.
It's great fun though.
Enjoy yourself!
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You only need 4 chords .Play till your fingers bleed.Thats what I did for the first few years.
4?! I'm just playing with the 3 chords at the moment."
4 chords that made a million ya know |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls.
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did
Practice, practise, practice. "
Let it be so. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise? "
I've played for 30 years and love it. Just keep practicing. Pick a couple of songs that you like and play them over and over. Main thing is relax and don't concentrate too hard. I know it sounds wierd but it works. I'm in a band and play most weekends and still fuck up. You never stop learning. Good luck my friend keep at it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You only need 4 chords .Play till your fingers bleed.Thats what I did for the first few years.
4?! I'm just playing with the 3 chords at the moment."
Are you using a pick or fingers.Put the pick down if your using one. Anymore than 4 chords and your showing off . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise?
I've played for 30 years and love it. Just keep practicing. Pick a couple of songs that you like and play them over and over. Main thing is relax and don't concentrate too hard. I know it sounds wierd but it works. I'm in a band and play most weekends and still fuck up. You never stop learning. Good luck my friend keep at it. "
Another thing is learn how to properly tune the guitar or it will just sound shit and put you off. |
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Played the guitar in my teens and early twenties. Left it for a few decades and now decided to play again.
Looks like I'm having to start from scratch!!! Gutted and can't really be bothered to practice every day to be honest. More of a piano person anyway, but that's a bit hard to drag around when you want to play a bit of music over your mate's |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls.
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did
Practice, practise, practice.
Let it be so. "
Will there be audience participation?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls.
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did
Practice, practise, practice.
Let it be so.
Will there be audience participation? "
My boundaries are out of whack of late, so yeah |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve been playing for 35 years and I’m still learning - but don’t play enough to get better really
I very much enjoyed your playing/singing. It was very thoughtful. And good
Would it be improved if i sucked him off at the same time?
You two both have the ability to cheer me up.
Yes. I would have enjoyed that too.
He's a big guy. I've often thought about riding him like one of those electric bulls.
I’d struggle to play the guitar and sing at the same time if you did
Practice, practise, practice.
Let it be so.
Will there be audience participation?
My boundaries are out of whack of late, so yeah "
Long may they remain out of whack  |
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Been playing professionally/semi-pro for over 40 years. I have around a dozen guitars. I bought my first one with my paper round money for £12 - that was about 3 months savings in those days.
I'm not great as I'm a singer/blues harp player primarily, so I only ever learned enough to accompany my voice and harp playing.
To make any progress, you need to be committed and consistent. Better to do 3 x 5min micro sessions per day than to do an hour one day and then skip a few days.
Practice has to be to some purpose, not just re-hashing things you can already do.
Every has different pre-disposition, but if you consistently put in 30 mnins a day, every day, for 2 years or so, you should start to become competent on the basics at least.
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"I’ve a lovely collection of guitars.. there’s a few in my profile I’ve been playing 26 years
That’s some collection "
Thanks i have more lol.. i found 3 upstairs hiding in my spare bed room the other day... a 90 salmon pink charvel a jackson parts mutt i made and a cort |
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"So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise? "
I've been learning since I was 14. So that's 35 years. I have 3 guitars and have owned many over the years. But the problem is that I just cant find one that works! |
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Despite learning to play the piano to a decent standard as a kid, I really struggled with guitar. And I'm talking about shit busker strum along standard.
The problem I found more than anything else was that there were very few resources on rhythm/strum technique [stop giggling at the back], I spent a lot in books but never seemed to improve..
But now, YouTube. Pretty much every song has a 'today I'm going to show you how to play___' page.
As soon as you get to the point where you can reliably change between 4 or 5 (A, E, D, G, C) that's where I'd head.
For now forget about any song with a Barre F and play an Fmaj7 (xx3210) and it'll likely sound good enough for you to sing along to as you keep time.
I'm still really struggling but the other week I got to the point where people actually recognised stuff I was playing and tried to join in. Makes you feel like a fucking rockstar |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise?
I've been learning since I was 14. So that's 35 years. I have 3 guitars and have owned many over the years. But the problem is that I just cant find one that works!"
Which ones have you tried? Acoustic/electric? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I’ve a lovely collection of guitars.. there’s a few in my profile I’ve been playing 26 years
That’s some collection
Thanks i have more lol.. i found 3 upstairs hiding in my spare bed room the other day... a 90 salmon pink charvel a jackson parts mutt i made and a cort "
Some obscure and unique ones too |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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i used to practice guitar playing jazz scales up until 13-14 years old .... then one night i heard john peel play a record by steve vai ... i went out and ordered it. then when i played the record i found because of all those jazz scales my uncle made me practice so much i was able to just play along with the record after 3 or 4 listens .... it was my renaissance ... nowadays i especially enjoy playing music with ultra complex time signatures like math-rock, electroacoustic music, glitch and cicuit bending using vintage effects pedals etc. |
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
"I have a guitar and a bass...learning them is a bit of an over exageration...I am bloody useless but I gind tabs easier than chords...another thing that just does not stay in my head
I used to prefer tabs to start with, but find it easier to play/find songs using chords.
As frustrating as it can and will be, it does slowly come together.
Have you tried the guitar tabs app?"
I did to start with. But have bought a book, and am following an online guide. Its all about chords. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have a guitar and a bass...learning them is a bit of an over exageration...I am bloody useless but I gind tabs easier than chords...another thing that just does not stay in my head
I used to prefer tabs to start with, but find it easier to play/find songs using chords.
As frustrating as it can and will be, it does slowly come together.
Have you tried the guitar tabs app?
I did to start with. But have bought a book, and am following an online guide. Its all about chords. "
... it's all about scales .... knowing them unlocks the knowledge of where to put your fingers for each scale's associated chords |
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
"So I bought myself a guitar awhile ago. I go through phases of where I try and pick it up every day, and mainly practice changing the chords, (I have played a few songs, as per the book I've bought, but I need to improve my chord changes), and where I completely forget about it,
Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise?
I've played for 30 years and love it. Just keep practicing. Pick a couple of songs that you like and play them over and over. Main thing is relax and don't concentrate too hard. I know it sounds wierd but it works. I'm in a band and play most weekends and still fuck up. You never stop learning. Good luck my friend keep at it. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have a guitar and a bass...learning them is a bit of an over exageration...I am bloody useless but I gind tabs easier than chords...another thing that just does not stay in my head
I used to prefer tabs to start with, but find it easier to play/find songs using chords.
As frustrating as it can and will be, it does slowly come together.
Have you tried the guitar tabs app?
I did to start with. But have bought a book, and am following an online guide. Its all about chords. "
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"I’ve a lovely collection of guitars.. there’s a few in my profile I’ve been playing 26 years
That’s some collection
Thanks i have more lol.. i found 3 upstairs hiding in my spare bed room the other day... a 90 salmon pink charvel a jackson parts mutt i made and a cort
Some obscure and unique ones too "
Not really their mostly metal guitars. Bc rich, jackson, ibanez, charvel, cort & dean. Plus ive made a couple myself from kits |
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Hold down the chord of C, pluck a fretted bass string with the thumb of the right hand
And pluck the third, second and first strings altogether with the first, second and third fingers of the right hand |
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over a year ago
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"I own a beautiful Stratocaster. I can tune the guitar perfectly by ear but I can't actually play. I just struggle to learn scales and chords!"
Best guitars in my opinion. I own 2 American strats and a telecaster hence my user name. Just learn pentatonic blues scale. Nearly every solo ever played uses that scale. |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
"i used to practice guitar playing jazz scales up until 13-14 years old .... then one night i heard john peel play a record by steve vai ... i went out and ordered it. then when i played the record i found because of all those jazz scales my uncle made me practice so much i was able to just play along with the record after 3 or 4 listens .... it was my renaissance ... nowadays i especially enjoy playing music with ultra complex time signatures like math-rock, electroacoustic music, glitch and cicuit bending using vintage effects pedals etc."
John Peel played a Steve Vai record????
You sure mun - seems the kind of thing he’d have run a mile from (like me) .
I used to teach guitar at the height of the Britpop era. Gawd only knows how many aspiring guitarists I taught to play flipping Wonderwall . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"i used to practice guitar playing jazz scales up until 13-14 years old .... then one night i heard john peel play a record by steve vai ... i went out and ordered it. then when i played the record i found because of all those jazz scales my uncle made me practice so much i was able to just play along with the record after 3 or 4 listens .... it was my renaissance ... nowadays i especially enjoy playing music with ultra complex time signatures like math-rock, electroacoustic music, glitch and cicuit bending using vintage effects pedals etc.
John Peel played a Steve Vai record????
You sure mun - seems the kind of thing he’d have run a mile from (like me) .
I used to teach guitar at the height of the Britpop era. Gawd only knows how many aspiring guitarists I taught to play flipping Wonderwall ."
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"I own a beautiful Stratocaster. I can tune the guitar perfectly by ear but I can't actually play. I just struggle to learn scales and chords!
Best guitars in my opinion. I own 2 American strats and a telecaster hence my user name. Just learn pentatonic blues scale. Nearly every solo ever played uses that scale. "
I thought your username looked like a name of a guitar! Anyway thanks for the tip |
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John Peel played a Steve Vai record????
You sure mun - seems the kind of thing he’d have run a mile from (like me) .
I used to teach guitar at the height of the Britpop era. Gawd only knows how many aspiring guitarists I taught to play flipping Wonderwall ."
yep ... in 1984 peely thought vai's flex-able album was genius .... and he was right
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
"You only need 4 chords .Play till your fingers bleed.Thats what I did for the first few years.
4?! I'm just playing with the 3 chords at the moment.
Are you using a pick or fingers.Put the pick down if your using one. Anymore than 4 chords and your showing off . "
Pick. Which 4 chords you talking about? |
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
"I own a beautiful Stratocaster. I can tune the guitar perfectly by ear but I can't actually play. I just struggle to learn scales and chords!"
Can you teach me how to tune by ear.
I use an electric tuner, think I will be for a while. |
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
New forest area |
"Despite learning to play the piano to a decent standard as a kid, I really struggled with guitar. And I'm talking about shit busker strum along standard.
The problem I found more than anything else was that there were very few resources on rhythm/strum technique [stop giggling at the back], I spent a lot in books but never seemed to improve..
But now, YouTube. Pretty much every song has a 'today I'm going to show you how to play___' page.
As soon as you get to the point where you can reliably change between 4 or 5 (A, E, D, G, C) that's where I'd head.
For now forget about any song with a Barre F and play an Fmaj7 (xx3210) and it'll likely sound good enough for you to sing along to as you keep time.
I'm still really struggling but the other week I got to the point where people actually recognised stuff I was playing and tried to join in. Makes you feel like a fucking rockstar"
I've only got to A, E, D. I will stick with it. But it's a mare sometimes. |
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Ive been going through phases of trying to learn the guitar for about 28 years.
I don't really bother with exercises as such, but YouTube can be a good source for tutorials. I found it helped to find songs I really wanted to play along with. The trick is to find stuff that isn't too complicated (Nirvana for instance), and maybe just start with the rhythm instead of Lead. |
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"I own a beautiful Stratocaster. I can tune the guitar perfectly by ear but I can't actually play. I just struggle to learn scales and chords!
Can you teach me how to tune by ear.
I use an electric tuner, think I will be for a while."
try tuning by harmonics ... much easier |
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"I own a beautiful Stratocaster. I can tune the guitar perfectly by ear but I can't actually play. I just struggle to learn scales and chords!
Can you teach me how to tune by ear.
I use an electric tuner, think I will be for a while."
I use an app on my phone called Guitar Tuna. You have to pay for the alternative tunings though, like open chord tunings, but I doubt you'll need those for a while. |
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Really basic stuff but if strumming A, lift your finger off the G string and you have A7 and when strumming E, lift finger off D string and you have E7,you will get a little more variety but will risk becoming lazy and pick up bad habits, always a curse |
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"You only need 4 chords .Play till your fingers bleed.Thats what I did for the first few years.
4?! I'm just playing with the 3 chords at the moment.
4 chords that made a million ya know"
Jesus, you don't get many Porcupine Tree fans on here! |
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"I own a beautiful Stratocaster. I can tune the guitar perfectly by ear but I can't actually play. I just struggle to learn scales and chords!
Can you teach me how to tune by ear.
I use an electric tuner, think I will be for a while.
try tuning by harmonics ... much easier"
It is if you've got perfect pitch to get the E in tune to begin with, otherwise it's just relative and not very much use. |
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
West Wales and Cardiff |
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John Peel played a Steve Vai record????
You sure mun - seems the kind of thing he’d have run a mile from (like me) .
I used to teach guitar at the height of the Britpop era. Gawd only knows how many aspiring guitarists I taught to play flipping Wonderwall .
yep ... in 1984 peely thought vai's flex-able album was genius .... and he was right
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That’s fascinating - genuinely! Learn something every day
Maybe I’ll have to check it out if it’s available.
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It's about 45 years of learning for me and it never stops...like others have said I never picked them up often enough to really master the guitar but I love playing so stick at it OP...it's worth it. |
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"Despite learning to play the piano to a decent standard as a kid, I really struggled with guitar. And I'm talking about shit busker strum along standard.
The problem I found more than anything else was that there were very few resources on rhythm/strum technique [stop giggling at the back], I spent a lot in books but never seemed to improve..
But now, YouTube. Pretty much every song has a 'today I'm going to show you how to play___' page.
As soon as you get to the point where you can reliably change between 4 or 5 (A, E, D, G, C) that's where I'd head.
For now forget about any song with a Barre F and play an Fmaj7 (xx3210) and it'll likely sound good enough for you to sing along to as you keep time.
I'm still really struggling but the other week I got to the point where people actually recognised stuff I was playing and tried to join in. Makes you feel like a fucking rockstar"
Thing is barre chords can really open up the guitar sound for you.
If someone's got an electronic tuner here's a great tip - put the guitar into a Keith Richards Spanish tuning (DGDGBD) and just practice barring all six strings but only sounding the top five. You'll quickly learn to hold all six strings down, and quickly learn quite a few rifs that sound like the stones, and then be able to transfer your barre technique back to a guitar in another tuning. |
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Try Justin guitar on internet! Find his website.
A well thought out and structured course of video lessons. It's free.
It's all you need. Like life... you'll get out what you put in.
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By *anrteeCouple
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you cant dodge the barre chords, you just need to persevere and get to grips with them as it will really open up the fret board for you. Learn some pentatonic scales too.
There is loads of stuff on strumming and rhythm on youtube. A good technique is to practice some 12 bar blues. A song with dead easy chords which will teach you stringing together different strum patterns is (don't say anything - purely for learning perspective) wonderwall by oasis.
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By *ill74 OP Man
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"Practice scales, they will help not only with getting faster on the neck but will also improve your overall playing and understanding of guitar"
Not sure what you mean by that? Do you mean using a capo? I have done a few times on 1 or 2 songs. |
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"It's about 45 years of learning for me and it never stops...like others have said I never picked them up often enough to really master the guitar but I love playing so stick at it OP...it's worth it."
I will do, even more determined when I hear guitar solos. |
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"Despite learning to play the piano to a decent standard as a kid, I really struggled with guitar. And I'm talking about shit busker strum along standard.
The problem I found more than anything else was that there were very few resources on rhythm/strum technique [stop giggling at the back], I spent a lot in books but never seemed to improve..
But now, YouTube. Pretty much every song has a 'today I'm going to show you how to play___' page.
As soon as you get to the point where you can reliably change between 4 or 5 (A, E, D, G, C) that's where I'd head.
For now forget about any song with a Barre F and play an Fmaj7 (xx3210) and it'll likely sound good enough for you to sing along to as you keep time.
I'm still really struggling but the other week I got to the point where people actually recognised stuff I was playing and tried to join in. Makes you feel like a fucking rockstar
Thing is barre chords can really open up the guitar sound for you.
If someone's got an electronic tuner here's a great tip - put the guitar into a Keith Richards Spanish tuning (DGDGBD) and just practice barring all six strings but only sounding the top five. You'll quickly learn to hold all six strings down, and quickly learn quite a few rifs that sound like the stones, and then be able to transfer your barre technique back to a guitar in another tuning. "
Not sure I've got to barre chords yet?! |
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"Despite learning to play the piano to a decent standard as a kid, I really struggled with guitar. And I'm talking about shit busker strum along standard.
The problem I found more than anything else was that there were very few resources on rhythm/strum technique [stop giggling at the back], I spent a lot in books but never seemed to improve..
But now, YouTube. Pretty much every song has a 'today I'm going to show you how to play___' page.
As soon as you get to the point where you can reliably change between 4 or 5 (A, E, D, G, C) that's where I'd head.
For now forget about any song with a Barre F and play an Fmaj7 (xx3210) and it'll likely sound good enough for you to sing along to as you keep time.
I'm still really struggling but the other week I got to the point where people actually recognised stuff I was playing and tried to join in. Makes you feel like a fucking rockstar
Thing is barre chords can really open up the guitar sound for you.
If someone's got an electronic tuner here's a great tip - put the guitar into a Keith Richards Spanish tuning (DGDGBD) and just practice barring all six strings but only sounding the top five. You'll quickly learn to hold all six strings down, and quickly learn quite a few rifs that sound like the stones, and then be able to transfer your barre technique back to a guitar in another tuning. "
Not sure I've got to barre chords yet?! |
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By *ill74 OP Man
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"Try Justin guitar on internet! Find his website.
A well thought out and structured course of video lessons. It's free.
It's all you need. Like life... you'll get out what you put in.
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That's what I'm following, also bought his beginners book, with x amiunt of songs in there. Still on 1st lot of songs. |
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John Peel played a Steve Vai record????
You sure mun - seems the kind of thing he’d have run a mile from (like me) .
I used to teach guitar at the height of the Britpop era. Gawd only knows how many aspiring guitarists I taught to play flipping Wonderwall .
yep ... in 1984 peely thought vai's flex-able album was genius .... and he was right
That’s fascinating - genuinely! Learn something every day
Maybe I’ll have to check it out if it’s available.
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flex-able ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjHR-SI7Bv0&list=PL5kM39jyvEUtSVcp5YpY9a6u4TPPDPKfd
flex-able leftovers ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY1BBcvwpi0&index=2&list=PLNzWZyQn9bCdxGQQcJO0AZ6sH8WfdlSvU
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"Fuck the acoustics right off and get electric with a decent amp. Rock out with cock out. "
I much prefer acoustic nowadays. Electric, with plenty of overdrive, will mask poor technique, but isn't necessarily a good thing. |
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"Fuck the acoustics right off and get electric with a decent amp. Rock out with cock out.
I much prefer acoustic nowadays. Electric, with plenty of overdrive, will mask poor technique, but isn't necessarily a good thing. "
Are we to have crossroads guitar challenge here Mr. Haha |
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"Fuck the acoustics right off and get electric with a decent amp. Rock out with cock out.
I much prefer acoustic nowadays. Electric, with plenty of overdrive, will mask poor technique, but isn't necessarily a good thing.
No I agree overdrive does hide mistakes. But I play fenders through clean amps and I do use overdrive but not too much as it sounds muddy. I'm a proper gear nerd and have spent thousands.
Are we to have crossroads guitar challenge here Mr. Haha "
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" Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise? "
Sounds just like me.
Learnt in my teens then discovered pubs and clubs and my guitar was abandoned to the back of the cupboard.
40 years later am trying to pick up where I left off, it’s not easy |
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"did we find out what sort of guitar you are learning to play with OP?
Fender acoustic. Maybe a CD140, think bought it for £180ish.
I use a pick as well..
You?"
where do i start? lol .... i got scores of them.
cd140's are pretty decent, usually good action and intonation which helps when you start out. if you're having trouble with getting a clean sound from bar chords then try lighter gauge strings for a bit until you get some strength and flexability in your fingers and don't worry about tuning your guitar to concert pitch, just get the thing in tune with itself. you won't be playing any concerts for a while.
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"It's about 45 years of learning for me and it never stops...like others have said I never picked them up often enough to really master the guitar but I love playing so stick at it OP...it's worth it.
I will do, even more determined when I hear guitar solos."
When it comes to solos, someone earlier mentioned pentatonic scales and you can find reference to these on the interweb....often known as the blues scale...master those (not that difficult) and solos will quickly follow. |
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"Try Justin guitar on internet! Find his website.
A well thought out and structured course of video lessons. It's free.
It's all you need. Like life... you'll get out what you put in.
That's what I'm following, also bought his beginners book, with x amiunt of songs in there. Still on 1st lot of songs."
Use the book as a companion to his website. Having someone explain and demonstrate what the book means the video close ups and hints and tips by someone that has either made all the mistakes most beginners make or, seen them while teaching others is invaluable. Don't skip the technical stuff and... Practice!
We all have off days but if you never give up you'll get there and a played guitar is a friend for life.
Practice |
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try tuning by harmonics ... much easier
It is if you've got perfect pitch to get the E in tune to begin with, otherwise it's just relative and not very much use."
having a guitar in concert pitch is utterly irrelevent when starting off .... the only time you need concert pitch is when you're going to play with musicians who are using an instrument with fixed tuning like a saxaphone or a flute, then you can just tune your guitar to their fixed tuning |
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"Try Justin guitar on internet! Find his website.
A well thought out and structured course of video lessons. It's free.
It's all you need. Like life... you'll get out what you put in.
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Great resource - his YouTube videos on how to play certain songs are great. |
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By *ill74 OP Man
over a year ago
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" Anyone else learning?
Do you do the 1 min chord changes exercise?
Sounds just like me.
Learnt in my teens then discovered pubs and clubs and my guitar was abandoned to the back of the cupboard.
40 years later am trying to pick up where I left off, it’s not easy "
Wel, you've picked it back up for a reason. Like everyone else has said, stick with it. |
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"Fuck the acoustics right off and get electric with a decent amp. Rock out with cock out.
I much prefer acoustic nowadays. Electric, with plenty of overdrive, will mask poor technique, but isn't necessarily a good thing.
No I agree overdrive does hide mistakes. But I play fenders through clean amps and I do use overdrive but not too much as it sounds muddy. I'm a proper gear nerd and have spent thousands.
Are we to have crossroads guitar challenge here Mr. Haha "
Haha! I'm in no position to challenge anyone!
I was always more of a fan of twin humbuckers. Love the Les Paul sound, but then it was Guns n Roses that got me into guitar in the first place, so I would do really. |
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"Try Justin guitar on internet! Find his website.
A well thought out and structured course of video lessons. It's free.
It's all you need. Like life... you'll get out what you put in.
Great resource - his YouTube videos on how to play certain songs are great."
Agreed, I do use his website and videos. He's easy to understand and follow. |
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try tuning by harmonics ... much easier
It is if you've got perfect pitch to get the E in tune to begin with, otherwise it's just relative and not very much use.
having a guitar in concert pitch is utterly irrelevent when starting off .... the only time you need concert pitch is when you're going to play with musicians who are using an instrument with fixed tuning like a saxaphone or a flute, then you can just tune your guitar to their fixed tuning "
Unless you want to play along with a song... |
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"Fuck the acoustics right off and get electric with a decent amp. Rock out with cock out.
I much prefer acoustic nowadays. Electric, with plenty of overdrive, will mask poor technique, but isn't necessarily a good thing.
No I agree overdrive does hide mistakes. But I play fenders through clean amps and I do use overdrive but not too much as it sounds muddy. I'm a proper gear nerd and have spent thousands.
Are we to have crossroads guitar challenge here Mr. Haha
Haha! I'm in no position to challenge anyone!
I was always more of a fan of twin humbuckers. Love the Les Paul sound, but then it was Guns n Roses that got me into guitar in the first place, so I would do really. "
Appreciate the sound of humbukers but was just too dirty for me. I love the sound of clean strat. Plus I owned a les Paul and after 2 hours of playing on stage just got too heavy. |
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try tuning by harmonics ... much easier
It is if you've got perfect pitch to get the E in tune to begin with, otherwise it's just relative and not very much use.
having a guitar in concert pitch is utterly irrelevent when starting off .... the only time you need concert pitch is when you're going to play with musicians who are using an instrument with fixed tuning like a saxaphone or a flute, then you can just tune your guitar to their fixed tuning
Unless you want to play along with a song..."
.... and then you just tune it to the song .... it's not rocket science dude |
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try tuning by harmonics ... much easier
It is if you've got perfect pitch to get the E in tune to begin with, otherwise it's just relative and not very much use.
having a guitar in concert pitch is utterly irrelevent when starting off .... the only time you need concert pitch is when you're going to play with musicians who are using an instrument with fixed tuning like a saxaphone or a flute, then you can just tune your guitar to their fixed tuning
Unless you want to play along with a song...
.... and then you just tune it to the song .... it's not rocket science dude "
All guitarists that have got to or past a certain level know and understand what you're saying but, it sounds like you've completely forgotten what it's like to be a beginner.
Yes, lots of musicians tune up, tune down or tune to a completely different tuning but, knowing how to tell or work it out isn't novice stuff.
In answer to your question OP... things like one minute chord changes are useful. I still do it if learning a new song with a new or unusual chord shape or change. It saves going through the whole song and always floundering in the same place.
Breaking songs down into smaller sections is always a good way to approach it especially when you progress onto more complex songs and lead guitar parts. |
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try tuning by harmonics ... much easier
It is if you've got perfect pitch to get the E in tune to begin with, otherwise it's just relative and not very much use.
having a guitar in concert pitch is utterly irrelevent when starting off .... the only time you need concert pitch is when you're going to play with musicians who are using an instrument with fixed tuning like a saxaphone or a flute, then you can just tune your guitar to their fixed tuning
Unless you want to play along with a song...
.... and then you just tune it to the song .... it's not rocket science dude
All guitarists that have got to or past a certain level know and understand what you're saying but, it sounds like you've completely forgotten what it's like to be a beginner.
Yes, lots of musicians tune up, tune down or tune to a completely different tuning but, knowing how to tell or work it out isn't novice stuff.
In answer to your question OP... things like one minute chord changes are useful. I still do it if learning a new song with a new or unusual chord shape or change. It saves going through the whole song and always floundering in the same place.
Breaking songs down into smaller sections is always a good way to approach it especially when you progress onto more complex songs and lead guitar parts."
Appreciate that. I do find myself going back to the chord changes exercise. I don't want to be perfect, but I want to be able to play a song, and people recognise it.
Practice and patience. |
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ok, just for clarity, what i'm trying to get across is forget concert pitch, just tune your strings to themselves .... remember folks 6 of the 10 tracks on highway to hell by ac/dc are out of pitch and the second half of heartbreaker by led zep is out of pitch etc etc
check out harmonic tuning, it really helps
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