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Where racism is acceptable

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Anyone else find it curious, that while in the world, so much progress has been made towards achieving equality etc, that in the swinging world we often see statuses and profiles saying " No White cocks" " No Blacks, or Asians " " BBC only" etc? I know we all have our preferences, but can't we just look at people as individuals rather than lumping everyone of a certain skin tone, the same ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Very common thread recently.

It's a sad day when people can't see past colour or race.

I agree everyone has a preference initially but you could be missing out on meeting some lovely people.

Not all black, Asian, white people are attractive to me but I'd never have discounted all of one type.

We're all different in personality, all different in our choices.

I'd never criticise anyone for stating a preference but I'll never understand it.

P x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I wonder how a black man with a small cock must feel.

Sorry to be slightly glib, but I agree with your thoughts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's a subject discussed practically daily. The preference vs race row will be a perpetual burner with no discernible answer.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Very common thread recently.

It's a sad day when people can't see past colour or race.

I agree everyone has a preference initially but you could be missing out on meeting some lovely people.

Not all black, Asian, white people are attractive to me but I'd never have discounted all of one type.

We're all different in personality, all different in our choices.

I'd never criticise anyone for stating a preference but I'll never understand it.

P x "

Very well said . Thank you x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist? "

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it?

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By *agermeisterMan over a year ago

Leeds

We've had this posted already today.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it? "

Nor is sexual preference.

I don't have a hissy fit and cry 'sizest', very time I see 'prefer women under size 14, no BBW's'. I find the information useful, in selecting playmates that seek my build. People are quick to shout 'ism', just because they don't like being excluded.

It is SEXUAL preference, not racism.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"We've had this posted already today.

I found one from 4 days ago, nothing today.

Sometimes people just want to have a say and as it's an open forum, live and let live

P x

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By *agermeisterMan over a year ago

Leeds

"It's a subject discussed practically daily. The preference vs race row will be a perpetual burner with no discernible answer. "

Yes there is a very clear answer.

Rejecting someone out of personal preference is fine.

Rejecting them because you hate them isn't

Finding the thought of other people having homosexual sex, sex with black guys, TV etc disgusting also isnt

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

I don’t see it as racist. You’re making an assumption there.

I agree it might be in some cases, but not something you can say for everyone with exclusions.

Bit like saying No Bi Males, those people are homophobic.

If we lived in an area with high demographic oriental, I’d add to our profile No Oriental. Why? Because I’m not attracted to them so I’m sure not going to want to meet them. Nor am I attracted to ginger, pale or stupid people. In fact I’m off to change our profile

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t see it as racist. You’re making an assumption there.

I agree it might be in some cases, but not something you can say for everyone with exclusions.

Bit like saying No Bi Males, those people are homophobic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it? "

Not quite the same, no. But similar.

If a person is not attracted to fat people. Or skinny people, old people, young people, gingers or bi men etc etc then it's entirely acceptable to the masses. Bring race into it and it's always "racist"

People need to think less about what others think and just craic on looking after number one. If someone doesn't want to meet me becuase I'm a white man then so be it. And there's plenty of "no white men/BBC only" profiles kicking around and I don't see it as racist.

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

Over and over and over we go....just REALLY? If someone doesn't like black cock, white cock, Asian cock....black pussy, white pussy, Asian pussy...so fkin what, leave them be...i think anyone with any common sense knows this does not equate to racism but is a SEXUAL preference....More like fkin Facebook every day, always someone trying to start a fight/argument. Maybe if they invested as much time into swinging and not worrying about what anyone else "prefers" we would all be better of.

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By *lceeWoman over a year ago

Leeds

I genuinely don’t understand it...surely it’s the person themself that is physically and mentally attractive rather than the shade of skin? It makes absolutely no sense.

Seriously. People. Help me understand here how this works in your head. Please.

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By *lkDomWhtSubBiCpleCouple over a year ago

Somewhere / Everywhere /Kinksville

"Over and over and over we go....just REALLY? If someone doesn't like black cock, white cock, Asian cock....black pussy, white pussy, Asian pussy...so fkin what, leave them be...i think anyone with any common sense knows this does not equate to racism but is a SEXUAL preference....More like fkin Facebook every day, always someone trying to start a fight/argument. Maybe if they invested as much time into swinging and not worrying about what anyone else "prefers" we would all be better of.

Er no Subs here. Move along please

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree with the poster who said not everyone does it with racist motives. Fair enough, but how do we distinguish the two?

How do we judge the ones who state they don't like BBW but essentially have a hatred of bigger women?

You simply will never know so maybe the answer is just let them get on with it and unless you receive a nasty comment or see one posted purposely bringing one type of person down, accept that people think differently to yourselves.

P x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone else find it curious, that while in the world, so much progress has been made towards achieving equality etc, that in the swinging world we often see statuses and profiles saying " No White cocks" " No Blacks, or Asians " " BBC only" etc? I know we all have our preferences, but can't we just look at people as individuals rather than lumping everyone of a certain skin tone, the same ? "

I have no black/white preference as you will see from my verifications. But I do have a very specific sort of man I am looking for which I list. Why do I do this - well because that is the sort of man that turns me on in bed. I could leave my profile generic and chat to all and there would be a lot of nice men to chat with but bottom line I still would not want to have sex with them.

I like all sorts of people out there in vanilla land and invest a lot of time in friendships and relationships but I am here to have sex and to fulfill sexual fantasies. Therefore I want to be specific as do a lot of others on their profiles. It is their choice to be with whatever criteria they wish to use.

I notice you only want to meet exceptional people - does that make you an 'exceptionalist' and is that acceptable?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think we all have prejudice but the only time it's a real issue is when people exhibit discriminatory behaviour?

I'm not sure saying I don't find a certain colour or creed is not attractive ( I find most attractive) is racist? It doesn't mean they think less of you, they simply dint wish to sleep with you?

And have you been wronged as a result? I think such a point belittles genuine examples if racist behaviour with victims.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I won't date a ginger guy. I don't find ginger people attractive. It's because I find they have an explosive temper. Also gingers are basically allergic to the sun and they burn and that just looks stupid. They have those freckle things and they are really pale. Also they have green eyes. So yeah I wouldn't date anyone ginger.

Are all ginger people unattractive?

What you just read is not true. Most of my family are ginger and I love them dearly, their hair is beautiful.

I'm jealous because I wasn't so fortunate.

But my point is....just because you don't generally like people with red hair does not mean you'll never find an auburn sex god.

I don't particularly like chavs. But I have met a couple who were so sexy it hurt.

Stereotyping and restrictions just perpetuate subtle divisions.

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By *iversong321Woman over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

" I think we all have prejudice but the only time it's a real issue is when people exhibit discriminatory behaviour?

I'm not sure saying I don't find a certain colour or creed is not attractive ( I find most attractive) is racist? It doesn't mean they think less of you, they simply dint wish to sleep with you?

And have you been wronged as a result? I think such a point belittles genuine examples if racist behaviour with victims."

This exactly! The minute you turn down an ethnic minority and they come straight back with the race card! Royally pisses me off. Do they know anything about me? What race my children, friends and previous lovers are. No they don't but they call me racist cos I won't fuck them. But then again I don't fuck wankers with an over inflated sense of entitlement. May of what what you want.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it? "

Hmm, playing Devil's advocate as I agree with you - but I wonder if there is such a thing as racial orientation??

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"It's a subject discussed practically daily. The preference vs race row will be a perpetual burner with no discernible answer.

Yes there is a very clear answer.

Rejecting someone out of personal preference is fine.

Rejecting them because you hate them isn't

Finding the thought of other people having homosexual sex, sex with black guys, TV etc disgusting also isnt

Devil's advocate again - why not? I am straight, why should I not find the thought of eg two women having sex unpleasant?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I genuinely don’t understand it...surely it’s the person themself that is physically and mentally attractive rather than the shade of skin? It makes absolutely no sense.

Seriously. People. Help me understand here how this works in your head. Please.

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you don't need to understand a sexual preference.. Just respect it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" I think we all have prejudice but the only time it's a real issue is when people exhibit discriminatory behaviour?

I'm not sure saying I don't find a certain colour or creed is not attractive ( I find most attractive) is racist? It doesn't mean they think less of you, they simply dint wish to sleep with you?

And have you been wronged as a result? I think such a point belittles genuine examples if racist behaviour with victims."

Are we talking preference or prejudice? That's the issue the OP is trying to make I think.

You are absolutely right in the most part.

Personal choice is paramount and we all have our own reasons. It's when those reasons come out as abuse or are based on discrimination that it should be seen as an issue.

Saying that, do we expect everyone on here to be perfect? Society will never be totally judgement free. There'll always be people who look at me and are repulsed. Each to their own

P x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's simple really. If you turn someone down because you ascribe negative behavioral or personality traits to their entire race then you're a racist!

But if you simply prefer another race/color that is not racism, it's preference.

There's a difference and it's clearer when some people make a point to say that "black or white people are like this or do that and that's why we're not meeting them", etc. If you are making the effort to convince others to follow your preference or believe as you do, or you've made it your misson to bad mouth or put down certain races then you're no longer talking about your relationship preference, you're being a racist. It's not that complicated.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's simple really. If you turn someone down because you ascribe negative behavioral or personality traits to their entire race then you're a racist!

But if you simply prefer another race/color that is not racism, it's preference.

You've managed to say what I meant but so much better

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We’ve had this post several times already and we’ve become exceedingly efficient at it

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's simple really. If you turn someone down because you ascribe negative behavioral or personality traits to their entire race then you're a racist!

But if you simply prefer another race/color that is not racism, it's preference.

You've managed to say what I meant but so much better

I think he has articulated it very well, but most decent people were trying to echo this sentiment.

Personally I find Arabian, Indian, Latin and African women very attractive, but I do understand that people from other cultures may not be drawn toward a white European male. I'm not offended.

But as the gentleman eloquently highlighted, it's when you cross a line of preferences that is the issue here.

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By *abioMan over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

again... my body.... my rules!!!!!

I am not here as a service to anyone!!!!

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By *hilloutMan over a year ago

All over the place! Northwesr, , Southwest

It's mind boggling and annoying how people take personal offence to nearly everything nowadays. It creates an environment when people walk on eggshells to avoid offending someone else's sensibilities

People have every right to state their preferences and if someone takes offence to that..A - that's their problem B - they possess an immature rejection complex.

It is completely asinine to equate someone's sexual preferences to racism. It's even more ridiculous to pressure people into accepting something they're clearly not looking for. If you can't deal with rejection, get off fab!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I agree with you on that. It’s time we move on with the time

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple over a year ago

South Wales

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist? "

I love oral sex with women. Does that make me a lesbian?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's not racism.

The problem we have with racism and many other terminology is that people either don't understand or have a wrong notion of what they are. Fab is a typical place we're people are accused of being racist when they are clearly not. By doing this it actually stifles good debate and conversation for fear of being falsely judged by those who seem to think they know what they are saying but in reality have a wrong understanding of something.

Anyone want to post the definition of racism up here?

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By *ieman300Man over a year ago

Best Greggs in Cheshire East

If someone doesn't want to meet someone because they are white, black, purple or whatever it's got bog all to do with anyone else.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

On a site which is used to arrange predominantly fun nsa sexual encounters I don't find it odd at all that people state their preferences. The first thing that draws you to a profile is normally the profile pic. It is human nature to seek out those who you find attractive. Fortunately for everyone here the spectrum of what is found attractive or desirable and by whom is vast.

As such if someone is specifically looking for a particular ethnicity I'd rather it be stated on their profile. Saves me potentially wasting their time as well as my own. Just as if they are looking for a particular physical trait. I have no issue with being let down when reading a profile only to read over 6ft only, you have a wee sigh and move on.

Does it mean everyone stating it is racist? Or that in the outside world if they got to know and care for someone of a particular ethnicity that they wouldn't be prepared to look to form a relationship? No not necessarily. Just simply that as they make their way through this fun fair the are simply going to enjoy the rides they like the look of whilst saving time by excluding the rest.

Are some racist? Undoubtedly.

There are thousands of people on here. Law of averages say some will be. If they are happy to give you a heads up on their profile they've saved you a job.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's not racism.

Anyone want to post the definition of racism up here?"

Here you go. Oxford dictionary no less

"1Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

1.1 The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races."

I think we can all conclude personal choice is ok

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist? "

is that your sexuality or preference?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Anyone want to post the definition of racism up here?"

One of the best I heard:

A middle aged black woman went into a high street coffee chain and asked the barista for a black coffee. He recoiled in horror. An Americana? He asked. The woman shrugged and said is that a black coffee? Again he recoiled. It's a filter coffee with no milk or cream he said. So it's a black coffee? She enquired again.

The barista explained that company rules prevented them from calling coffee by the b word as it was racist. The woman replied by saying what colour is that coffee? What colour would it be if you put milk in it? To call my coffee black when it is isn't racist. It is when you refuse to serve me because I am that is.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's not racism.

Anyone want to post the definition of racism up here?

Here you go. Oxford dictionary no less

"1Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I think we can all conclude personal choice is ok

Thank you... hope you don't feel left out now

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I posted this on the last thread but have edited it:

"No Blacks

No Irish

No Dogs"

Look a sexual preference is not racist but I don't have much sympathy for people who hang such preferences like a sign outside a hotel.

It is not the same as saying "I prefer shaved heads." It might be to you but an act is racist if the victim perceives it as racist. It doesn't matter what your intentions are. This is the legal position.

Just take the sign down.

Simple. Those of you that then extrapolate that point of view to sexuality or colour of hair or any other thing that differentiates us from other people are just ignoring the progress we are making as a society and trying to ridicule The concept. The fact is if some people find it offensive why would you put it on your profile when you can simply respond to the messages you want to?

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By *ieman300Man over a year ago

Best Greggs in Cheshire East

"I posted this on the last thread but have edited it:

"No Blacks

No Irish

No Dogs"

Look a sexual preference is not racist but I don't have much sympathy for people who hang such preferences like a sign outside a hotel.

Just take the sign down.

I will give the same reply as I did on the other thread.

That's cobblers. Intention is everything.

Offence is taken never given.

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By *otSoNewWalesCoupleCouple over a year ago

South Wales

I don't like people called Ray.

Am I Raycist?

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

That's not racism.

That is so of many types of preference too.

Looking up the dictionary definition it includes 'feeling your race is superior or the other inferior' and I don't think many people on fab are genuinely guilty of that.

The secondary definition is more about 'prejudiced against' in terms of 'preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.' and usually includes ' dislike or hostility towards'. I am sure this kind of racism does exist on fab.

But there is also 'prejudiced against' in terms of an 'unreasoned aversion' without any value judgement or hostility. 'I just don't fancy men of x race'.

Is this true racism? I am not sure. I think my definition of racism would probably include hostility or superiority.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's not racism.

Anyone want to post the definition of racism up here?"

There is the dictionary definition which is not deemed adequate by many groups of people who view that as just another institution carrying the putative power to water-down or completely miss systematic oppression and discrimination of one group to the inferiority of another. The word racism according to most dictionaries means to believe that ones race is superior to another. But the term racism (term not word) in Western society refers to not merely a belief in superiority-inferority but a belief "system".

Having a belief system means that you actively or passively accept to engage in making that superiority-inferiority a social, economic, cultural and political REALITY! It is when you believe that not only are you superior and entitled but that it should manifest in all your dealings with respect to the "inferior" race.

How this plays out in the dating world is when you either openly or passive-aggressively work to establish your belief system in your social interactions whether it's telling others to steer clear, or sharing how not so great your inferior is etc. It is all the clandestine or tricky ways people imply that certain races are of less value than their own.

Very important not to confuse prejudice in preference to racism as a participant in a systematic effort to establish a hierarchy based upon your prejudice.

Racism is NOT only "I don't like black/white/asian/brown" etc.

Racism is "I don't like them and I don't want them to participate in society with the same status as me".

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"I posted this on the last thread but have edited it:

"No Blacks

No Irish

No Dogs"

Look a sexual preference is not racist but I don't have much sympathy for people who hang such preferences like a sign outside a hotel.

Just take the sign down.

I will give the same reply as I did on the other thread.

That's cobblers. Intention is everything.

Offence is taken never given."

Aren't you contradicting yourself there?? I can do something offensive whether or not there is someone there to take offence?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Simple. Those of you that then extrapolate that point of view to sexuality or colour of hair or any other thing that differentiates us from other people are just ignoring the progress we are making as a society and trying to ridicule The concept. The fact is if some people find it offensive why would you put it on your profile when you can simply respond to the messages you want to? "

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" It doesn't matter what your intentions are. This is the legal position. "

I'm no legal person but I will challenge that by simply asking this question.

If I kill someone does my crime and judgement hang on my intent? Why have a court hearing at all?

If not then I'll concede.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I posted this on the last thread but have edited it:

"No Blacks

No Irish

No Dogs"

Look a sexual preference is not racist but I don't have much sympathy for people who hang such preferences like a sign outside a hotel.

Just take the sign down.

I will give the same reply as I did on the other thread.

That's cobblers. Intention is everything.

Offence is taken never given.

Aren't you contradicting yourself there?? I can do something offensive whether or not there is someone there to take offence?"

You're intent on annoying me again frisky!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Everyone has their sexual preference. I don't get why people can't just say bc (Big cock) instead of bbc (Big black cock) but that's just me. Grain of sand on a massive beach.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?"

But why express the negative - why not just the positive? Why would anyone put 'no shortarse weaklings' when actually what they want to say is 'I really fancy tall strong men!'

The latter is positive, the first is offensive.

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"I posted this on the last thread but have edited it:

"No Blacks

No Irish

No Dogs"

Look a sexual preference is not racist but I don't have much sympathy for people who hang such preferences like a sign outside a hotel.

Just take the sign down.

I will give the same reply as I did on the other thread.

That's cobblers. Intention is everything.

Offence is taken never given.

Aren't you contradicting yourself there?? I can do something offensive whether or not there is someone there to take offence?

You're intent on annoying me again frisky!!!!"

Haha, I wasn't even quoting you!

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

" It doesn't matter what your intentions are. This is the legal position.

I'm no legal person but I will challenge that by simply asking this question.

If I kill someone does my crime and judgement hang on my intent? Why have a court hearing at all?

If not then I'll concede."

Isn't intent the difference between murder and manslaughter?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

" It doesn't matter what your intentions are. This is the legal position.

I'm no legal person but I will challenge that by simply asking this question.

If I kill someone does my crime and judgement hang on my intent? Why have a court hearing at all?

If not then I'll concede.

Isn't intent the difference between murder and manslaughter? "

Bingo

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?

But why express the negative - why not just the positive? Why would anyone put 'no shortarse weaklings' when actually what they want to say is 'I really fancy tall strong men!'

The latter is positive, the first is offensive."

No it's not the later is negative

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?

But why express the negative - why not just the positive? Why would anyone put 'no shortarse weaklings' when actually what they want to say is 'I really fancy tall strong men!'

The latter is positive, the first is offensive.

No it's not the later is negative

Saying 'I fancy tall strong men' is negative?? How so??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?

But why express the negative - why not just the positive? Why would anyone put 'no shortarse weaklings' when actually what they want to say is 'I really fancy tall strong men!'

The latter is positive, the first is offensive."

Agree it is always better to use positive rather than a negative which I have. The only negative on my list is 'no tattoos' as I cannot think of another way to put it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

That's not racism.

Anyone want to post the definition of racism up here?

Here you go. Oxford dictionary no less

"1Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

I think we can all conclude personal choice is ok

Thank you... hope you don't feel left out now

Not sure what you meant by that

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Well I am simply paraphrasing the law. This is how it stands. An act is racist if the "victim" feel it was. I am just the messenger. I do however happen to agree with it. Lets make it about men and women.... Say I met a woman in the bar and touched her, I was only being friendly but she felt deep unease about what I did. Doe sit mean I wasn't inappropriate or out of order in any way because I was "just being friendly" I am sure Donald Trump genuinely doesn't think he has treated women badly after all.

Why is this an argument - society has moved on - we don't make preferences based on ethnicity. Just take each profile on its merit and select who you reply to. It is a no brainer for me.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

is that your sexuality or preference? "

It's about what someone finds attractive. Not sure why it needs to go any further than that?

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By *ervent_fervourMan over a year ago

Halifax

Alarming, more like.

I find it sad that people bang on about their honesty in stating what they wish, which ostensibly is fine. Except we live in a world where racial prejudice is still prevalent. So a little pc would go a long way if people don't want to offend and remove those preferences from their profiles.

It's not hard. They could still have those 'preferences', but keep them private.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I genuinely don’t understand it...surely it’s the person themself that is physically and mentally attractive rather than the shade of skin? It makes absolutely no sense.

Seriously. People. Help me understand here how this works in your head. Please.

Precisely that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Alarming, more like.

It's not hard. They could still have those 'preferences', but keep them private."

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Well I am simply paraphrasing the law. This is how it stands. An act is racist if the "victim" feel it was. I am just the messenger. I do however happen to agree with it. Lets make it about men and women.... Say I met a woman in the bar and touched her, I was only being friendly but she felt deep unease about what I did. Doe sit mean I wasn't inappropriate or out of order in any way because I was "just being friendly" I am sure Donald Trump genuinely doesn't think he has treated women badly after all.

Why is this an argument - society has moved on - we don't make preferences based on ethnicity. Just take each profile on its merit and select who you reply to. It is a no brainer for me."

Agree totally. Surely everyone can and should understand this?

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By *tonMessCouple over a year ago

Slough Windsor ish

Jeez... ive just read through all of this

Some really good points made.

Personally i just prefer to express our preferences in a positive manner.

I have to agree, the way preferences are highlighted with "NO BLACK NO ASIAN" in very angry sounding block capitals within a profile it can come across like a racist comment. I simply choose to pass over negative people like that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

I notice you only want to meet exceptional people - does that make you an 'exceptionalist' and is that acceptable?"

Exceptional isn't exclusive to one ethic group, and are judged on an individual, not generic group basis

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Jeez... ive just read through all of this

Some really good points made.

Personally i just prefer to express our preferences in a positive manner.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it?

Nor is sexual preference.

It is SEXUAL preference, not racism."

This!

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

"I don’t see it as racist. You’re making an assumption there.

I agree it might be in some cases, but not something you can say for everyone with exclusions.

Bit like saying No Bi Males, those people are homophobic.

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By *iss_tressWoman over a year ago

London

I notice you only want to meet exceptional people - does that make you an 'exceptionalist' and is that acceptable?"

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By *hetalkingstoveMan over a year ago

London

"I genuinely don’t understand it...surely it’s the person themself that is physically and mentally attractive rather than the shade of skin? It makes absolutely no sense.

Seriously. People. Help me understand here how this works in your head. Please.

Precisely that.

Indeed.

I don't get it either. Imagine meeting someone who is your ideal body type, ideal height, who shares your sense of humour and makes you laugh, who is charming, intelligent and insightful. You have loads in common. Exactly your type.

But they have the wrong colour skin, so you're not interested?

Baffling.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist? "

Yes, equal opportunities will come to fab soon

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it? "
why is it not it's a personal choice for the individual to make

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As long as those people expressing a preference on who they wish to have NSA sex with, do not discriminate in the work place or neighbourhood they are not necessarily prejudiced. They may be, but I find those putting pressure on them to have sex with people they choose not to, much more abhorrent than those who say no xxx on their profiles.

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By *xplorer13Man over a year ago

glenrothes

"I wonder how a black man with a small cock must feel.

Sorry to be slightly glib, but I agree with your thoughts. "

LBC ? Lol

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By *icketysplitsWoman over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

"As long as those people expressing a preference on who they wish to have NSA sex with, do not discriminate in the work place or neighbourhood they are not necessarily prejudiced. They may be, but I find those putting pressure on them to have sex with people they choose not to, much more abhorrent than those who say no xxx on their profiles."

I have never seen anyone putting pressure on people to have sex with those they are not interested.

Suggesting that people don't express their preferences in a rude way and suggesting that people think about why they would exclude some people but not others is hardly forcing anyone to have sex.

For some stating their preferences isn't enough. Being contacted by people who have 'no Blacks or Asians' on their profiles and getting abuse for refusing to meet them as their approach was to basically demand a meet for them to 'try out' a person of colour or getting invited to parties and then being dis-invited because of my colour is worse to me than people suggesting we consider our prejudices.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"again... my body.... my rules!!!!!

I am not here as a service to anyone!!!! "
well said sir

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By *agermeisterMan over a year ago

Leeds

I can give you a Fabbers profile which states:

"No puffs"

Prejudice or sexual preference?

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

"I genuinely don’t understand it...surely it’s the person themself that is physically and mentally attractive rather than the shade of skin? It makes absolutely no sense.

Seriously. People. Help me understand here how this works in your head. Please.

Precisely that.

Indeed.

But they have the wrong colour skin, so you're not interested?

Baffling. "

What's baffling about it? If white/black skin doesn't do it for you(sexually)then it doesn't do it for you...why do some people feel they "need" to understand this? It has nothing to do with them, it's the individual in questions sexual preference....why/how is that anyone elses business?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist? "

Best answer.

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By *evil_u_knowMan over a year ago

city

People write it off as a preference but its racism really.

Often people want the taboo etc, or they just want the same.

*shrugs*

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan over a year ago

salisbury

"I can give you a Fabbers profile which states:

"No puffs"

Prejudice or sexual preference?

You can select not to search for smokers.

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By *oxy_minxWoman over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

So many indignant threads about this recently! Why is that?

I think people would have more enjoyment if they just concentrate on the people that include them rather than take offence at those that exclude you!

I don't get offended because a lot of men on here prefer the BBW (plenty of threads on here) I am a slim petite female, so of course I am excluded from these, at the end of the day, we can't be everyone's cup of tea, just accept things as they are and move on from the one's that exclude you

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"People write it off as a preference but its racism really.

Often people want the taboo etc, or they just want the same.

*shrugs*"

It's not always racist, I'm generally not sexually attracted to Asian men but I have some very good friends who are Asian, the same goes for black guys, they are not sexually attractive to me but one of my best friends is a black guy and he is absolutely fine with my view point, he agrees it isn't racist.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?"

So why would you put "no blacks/whites/asians" on your profile if that then prevents you having the chance of being visually attracted to the person or not?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I posted this on the last thread but have edited it:

"No Blacks

No Irish

No Dogs"

Look a sexual preference is not racist but I don't have much sympathy for people who hang such preferences like a sign outside a hotel.

Just take the sign down.

Basically, this

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don’t see it as racist. You’re making an assumption there.

I agree it might be in some cases, but not something you can say for everyone with exclusions.

Bit like saying No Bi Males, those people are homophobic.

People have preferences.

I don't think not wanting sex with bi men is homophobic. Bi men have much higher rates of hiv than the general public for example. 1 in 10 vs 1 in 100. That's a good reason for some people. Plus for others the fact that he sucks cock might be a turn off.

Some say not having sex with people who have hiv is discrimination. But is it discrimination not to have sex with someone who has herpes or syphilis? Even if the risk is low then that might still make people uncomfortable and they don't want to be uncomfortable having sex. Just because YOUR level of personal comfort is at a certain level, doesn't mean someone else's is.

What if you meet a guy who is your type, then find out he's a murderer and pedo. Is it discrimination to say no too?

What about if someone is fat or skinny?

Sexual preference has NOTHING to do with racism or any ism. It has to do with attraction. And you can't help what you are attracted to. Im a tranny and I've sometimes spoken to the most gorgeous hunks with amazing bodies and huge cocks. Was fully into them until they told me they want to suck my cock and want me to fuck them up the arse. IT's a MASSIVE turn off for me for a man to enjoy being fucked and sucking cock. Does that make me homophobic? As a gay tranny?

My sexual preferences have changed through the years.

Somehow we now have a society saying that if you don't fuck someone of a different race you are racist. This is ridiculous and harmful and promotes sexual coercion. I used to work in sexual health and I know young girls who have admitted to fucking black guys just to prove they are not racist. They were manipulated and coerced into 'proving' that they are not racist by fucking someone they didn't fancy. I think a lot of women on here will recognise that feeling when young and pressured into having sex when you really don't want to. Imagine having the threat of being labelled 'racist' used as a weapon against you if you don't shag someone you don't fancy. That's absolutely awful and that's EXACTLY where this sort of virtue signalling around sex and race leads.

That pressure has even happened to me personally when out twice. Was flirted by black guys and they weren't my type and told them I'm not interested and had "why not is it cos your racist?" and "prove your not racist then come have a drink with me". I can't stand that sort of emotional bl*ckmail. I wish I had turned to him and said no its because your a fat ugly c#nt but I don't think that would have had a positive outcome

Even if someone genuinely doesn't like the feature set which comes with a race (and it goes both ways, I'm POC and know loads of POC Who say that white people have no colour or passion and wouldn't shag them, it's not just against black, Arab, Asian, oriental, whatever) then why is that considered bad?

Maybe the bigoted ones are those on this forum who are trying to virtue signal and simply can't accept that someone thinks differently to them?

Are you REALLY going to shame someone if they GENUINELY don't fancy people of another race (through no fault of their own) for not shagging them? Is this what society has come to?

I fought and was involved in activism so that people don't judge me based on my sexual and relationship preferences. Can we not discriminate in reverse now? You like what you like, and I'll like what I like. No judgements and be kind and compassionate and respectful to each other. Now stop being oppressive bullies.

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By *eeleyWoman over a year ago

Dudley

"I don’t see it as racist. You’re making an assumption there.

I agree it might be in some cases, but not something you can say for everyone with exclusions.

Bit like saying No Bi Males, those people are homophobic.

People have preferences.

What if you meet a guy who is your type, then find out he's a murderer and pedo. Is it discrimination to say no too?

What about if someone is fat or skinny?

My sexual preferences have changed through the years.

Maybe the bigoted ones are those on this forum who are trying to virtue signal and simply can't accept that someone thinks differently to them?

Are you REALLY going to shame someone if they GENUINELY don't fancy people of another race (through no fault of their own) for not shagging them? Is this what society has come to?

Well said!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?

So why would you put "no blacks/whites/asians" on your profile if that then prevents you having the chance of being visually attracted to the person or not?"

And yet your profile could be interpreted as homophobic. 99% of profiles on here have at least one statement that would exclude some people. It just seems some filters appear more emotive than others.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I posted this on the last thread but have edited it:

"No Blacks

No Irish

No Dogs"

Look a sexual preference is not racist but I don't have much sympathy for people who hang such preferences like a sign outside a hotel.

Just take the sign down.

Basically, this

The law as mentioned above is stupid and a lot of people want the 'perceived and offensive' bit removed from law.

Anything can be 'perceived' as offensive.

If you tell me you aren't into trannies then I could say 'you are transphobic'.

If you were to reply that 'I didn't mean it in an offensive way and didn't mean to imply I'm trans phobic and I have no problem with trans people' then I could reply 'I don't care how you MEANT it, what matters is how I PERCEIVED it, and I PERCEIVED the fact that you aren't into trannies as offensive and transphobic. Therefore it is and you are discriminating against me with a HATE CRIME, and can be PROSECUTED and IMPRISONED for saying you aren't into trannies.'

Obviously this is ridiculous, but this is the state of affairs in the UK right now.

Don't believe me? Try replacing "tranny" in the conversation above with "black" in actual life. How well would that work out for you?

I even had an SJW tranny on here trying to FORCE me to use "tgirl" instead of "tranny". I can't stand saying tgirl. The word has no flow, and I can't stand people telling me what I can and can't say. Even Ru Paul fought against these extreme activists trying to make a perfectly happy and colloquial term of endearment for referring to trans people into a dirty word. Sorry but they can't take that word from me. I won't let them.

People need to start fighting back against this bullshit because they will never be happy and will keep taking it a step further and further.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So many indignant threads about this recently! Why is that?

I think people would have more enjoyment if they just concentrate on the people that include them rather than take offence at those that exclude you!

Exactly!

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By *iversong321Woman over a year ago

Preston/Merseyside

Do you understand that a large part of sexual attraction is visual and it is not something to be ashamed of?

But why express the negative - why not just the positive? Why would anyone put 'no shortarse weaklings' when actually what they want to say is 'I really fancy tall strong men!'

The latter is positive, the first is offensive.

No it's not the later is negative

Saying 'I fancy tall strong men' is negative?? How so??"

Yeh how is that negative?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I genuinely don’t understand it...surely it’s the person themself that is physically and mentally attractive rather than the shade of skin? It makes absolutely no sense.

Seriously. People. Help me understand here how this works in your head. Please.

Exactly that … bonkers IMHO

Precisely that.

Indeed.

But they have the wrong colour skin, so you're not interested?

Baffling. "

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"People write it off as a preference but its racism really.

Often people want the taboo etc, or they just want the same.

*shrugs*"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

More pc drivel i see

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"More pc drivel i see"

No just a a dab ate about whether having a pre conceived idea based upon a blanket judgement about a group of people is right, rather than looking at each person as an individual and basing your judgement on your attractiveness to them on a case by case basis?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Typo alert *debate

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can have as many preconceived ideas and as many blankets judgements as I choose. It is my CHOICE of sexual PREFERENCES. I don't give a flying f*ck who I offend on my preferences, and spouting them as 'isms', because it excludes them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't get it either. Imagine meeting someone who is your ideal body type, ideal height, who shares your sense of humour and makes you laugh, who is charming, intelligent and insightful. You have loads in common. Exactly your type.

But they have the wrong colour skin, so you're not interested?

Baffling. "

Skin colour can be a factor in sexual attraction. It is a physical attribute just like hair colour, height etc and physical attraction is a big part of sexual attraction for SOME people.

Baffling you don't think it might be.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I can have as many preconceived ideas and as many blankets judgements as I choose. It is my CHOICE of sexual PREFERENCES. I don't give a flying f*ck who I offend on my preferences, and spouting them as 'isms', because it excludes them

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Note that this post isn't about just one group being excluded.

When we exclude a group , we do so based upon a preconceived theory, rather than reality of seeing a real person. By this , i mean many people say they don't find ginger people, asian, black, white attractive but who is to say that one day they won't meet someone fitting that description, that blows them away?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"More pc drivel i see"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Note that this post isn't about just one group being excluded.

Your opening post was purely aimed at skin colour and calling it racism. That is what I am angry about. Now you are softening your opening post by saying you meant excluding groups. Big difference.

This site is about sexual hedonism, I make choices by my preferences. I will exclude who I like.

People who say they do not meet BBW's or women above size 14, do me the favour of allowing me to move onto the next profile who does. I do not throw a hissy fit and say 'try me I might blow your mind' your being sizest. That is the whole point of a profile, to indicate what is on offer, and what you seek

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By *aeBabeWoman over a year ago

London

I'm a Filipino/Oriental/Asian woman and for the most part am attracted to White/Caucasian men. Why? Certain facial and physical characteristics I suppose that I find attractive. Have I played with others outside of that ethnicity? Sure, but they usually have those characteristics that I find attractive too.

It's not racist to have a sexual preference, it's attraction and what you find attractive in a potential play partner.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Note that this post isn't about just one group being excluded.

You really don't get the concept of "preferences" do you? I don't know anybody who said that they would NEVER date someone just because of their race. It's not because of their race. It's because they aren't attracted to that feature set. Personally I really don't find somali men attractive. They are generally very tall and slim with elongated faces and heads with very large foreheads. I said GENERALLY. that's what forms the PHYSIOGNOMY of Somalis as a people. You can tell if someone is somali just by looking at them. The same way you can tell if someone is from the Congo (who I am actually attracted to because they generally have broader faces and more masculine features). Or Russian again bulging head on top which I'm not into. It's not because they are somali or I have anything against them. Never had an issue and no reason to have an issue. I just GENERALLY don't find them attractive. It's not personal. I just don't. It's got nothing to do with a preconceived theory of anything. I just don't like it. I don't dislike it either. It's just not for me. What I find irritating is people like you trying to shove it down my throat and try to make me feel guilty for something I have absolutely morning to feel guilty about.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's not racist to have a sexual preference, it's attraction and what you find attractive in a potential play partner.

Exactly! Thank you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Note that this post isn't about just one group being excluded.

Your opening post was purely aimed at skin colour and calling it racism. That is what I am angry about. Now you are softening your opening post by saying you meant excluding groups. Big difference.

This site is about sexual hedonism, I make choices by my preferences. I will exclude who I like.

Yup exactly. Feel the same way about "no trannies" policy. Doesn't upset me. I just know it's a non starter. Saves us both time.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The weird thing is - I personally do not think most people are being racist by having a preference.

I love diversity myself and find difference sexy. BUT.....whatever your preference - it is no longer acceptable as society continues to evolve, to post on your profile your ethnic preference because other people can be offended by it. Nobody would write in their profile no Jews or Catholics but if fab existed 60 years ago it would be quite normal to do so and in the forums we would be debating it in the same way.

It is also (as I said) legally a racist incident if someone find it racist even if your intent is merely a sexual preference.

So just don't write it on your profile. Simple! Or be old fashioned and stick to your guns as you get left behind....

This debate is not whether someone is racist or not. It should simply be is it acceptable to post a racial preference on a profile? All the rest is just defensiveness.

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By *aeBabeWoman over a year ago

London

"The weird thing is - I personally do not think most people are being racist by having a preference.

It is also (as I said) legally a racist incident if someone find it racist even if your intent is merely a sexual preference.

So just don't write it on your profile. Simple! Or be old fashioned and stick to your guns as you get left behind....

This debate is not whether someone is racist or not. It should simply be is it acceptable to post a racial preference on a profile? All the rest is just defensiveness."

Posting what you look for in a potential play partner on your profile is perfectly acceptable.

It helps as a filter too, if people actually read a profile, as some people want to avoid wasting peoples time from messaging them and their inbox being full of messages that they just end up deleting (the admin work in that is just no fun).

Fab isn't the wider society as a whole, if society is saying these things are not acceptable, sure it's not... But on a free site where people are looking to get intimate with one another, it's up to that individual as to how they run their profile to meet the people they want.

If that offends peoples sensitive sensibilities, then the profile did (in a way) do it's job to deter people that said individual did not want to attract.

I have seen a few profiles state that they only play with " other Nubian kings and queens" like themselves and that those people should not have played with White people.

Is that offensive? Sure maybe. IS that racist? You decide.

But it's how they choose to do things and you either ignore it and move on or get upset and make a thread about it because in the end, let's face it, you're not going to fix that anytime soon.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"The weird thing is - I personally do not think most people are being racist by having a preference.

It is also (as I said) legally a racist incident if someone find it racist even if your intent is merely a sexual preference.

So just don't write it on your profile. Simple! Or be old fashioned and stick to your guns as you get left behind....

This debate is not whether someone is racist or not. It should simply be is it acceptable to post a racial preference on a profile? All the rest is just defensiveness."

And this is where I think British society had descended into Bullshit.

This guy explains it best.

https://youtu.be/lmZmDNRDb2c

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By *risky_MareWoman over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

This debate is not whether someone is racist or not. It should simply be is it acceptable to post a racial preference on a profile? "

Yes, that was the title of the thread, I think the last two lines of the original post muddied the water for some people.

But I have enjoyed thinking about and analysing what is racism, prejudice and preference respectively.

I think it's wrong for anyone to be vilified or pressurised for their sexual preferences, either way, and why offend if you don't need to?

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By *un-guy212Man over a year ago

sheffield

Here we go lol another thread on this.. but il say what I have always said.. if you discount someone out due to their race then you are doing this on racist grounds.. there are different levels of racism, You often see on profiles no blacks no Asians no whites etc really? Out of the 6 million Asians in the U.K. You wouldn't find one attractive? Or the millions of black people same for white people.. you wouldn't find any attractive? If you say you're not racist then you are definitely ignorant.

Using such a bold statement and then guarding it with "its my preference."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Persuading people to remove objectionable content, makes it harder to reject them.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Here we go lol another thread on this.. but il say what I have always said.. if you discount someone out due to their race then you are doing this on racist grounds.. there are different levels of racism, You often see on profiles no blacks no Asians no whites etc really? Out of the 6 million Asians in the U.K. You wouldn't find one attractive? Or the millions of black people same for white people.. you wouldn't find any attractive? If you say you're not racist then you are definitely ignorant.

Using such a bold statement and then guarding it with "its my preference."

Exactly!

Eliminating a complete group of people on the basis of their race is the prime definition of racism.

Like it has been said above you are likely to find attractive people in every race.

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

Using such a bold statement and then guarding it with "its my preference."

Exactly!

Eliminating a complete group of people on the basis of their race is the prime definition of racism.

Like it has been said above you are likely to find attractive people in every race. "

Attractive to who? You? Or are you telling people they WILL find someone attractive because you said so?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Using such a bold statement and then guarding it with "its my preference."

Exactly!

Eliminating a complete group of people on the basis of their race is the prime definition of racism.

Like it has been said above you are likely to find attractive people in every race.

Attractive to who? You? Or are you telling people they WILL find someone attractive because you said so? "

No, not me.. and I’m not telling ppl to do anything.. I’m just highlighting a general fact.

If you disagree please state your reasoning

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By *un-guy212Man over a year ago

sheffield

Il give you an example.. now if someone states on the profile that they do not meet Asians? Does that mean Asians in particular? Asia is a huge place... not everyone looks the same.. some say half of turkey is classed as Asia..

Someone who is Asian with dark hair but light skin could pass for Italian or greek.. he or she could tell a man or women he or she is not Asian but Italian.. then it's ok to carry on talking.. attraction is all in the mind.. stereo typing just paints an image

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

Using such a bold statement and then guarding it with "its my preference."

Exactly!

Eliminating a complete group of people on the basis of their race is the prime definition of racism.

Like it has been said above you are likely to find attractive people in every race.

Attractive to who? You? Or are you telling people they WILL find someone attractive because you said so?

No, not me.. and I’m not telling ppl to do anything.. I’m just highlighting a general fact.

If you disagree please state your reasoning

A "fact" or "likely to find"...which is it?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Using such a bold statement and then guarding it with "its my preference."

Exactly!

Eliminating a complete group of people on the basis of their race is the prime definition of racism.

Like it has been said above you are likely to find attractive people in every race.

Attractive to who? You? Or are you telling people they WILL find someone attractive because you said so?

No, not me.. and I’m not telling ppl to do anything.. I’m just highlighting a general fact.

If you disagree please state your reasoning

A "fact" or "likely to find"...which is it?"

Eliminating a complete group of people on the basis of their race is the prime definition of racism. Fact.

They can be from any race

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

So your "Fact" is that, let's just say for arguments same, if I said I don't find Japanese people sexually attractive I am a racist? GROW UP I will say one thing for threads like this, like many have said before me, they work well as another filter. Though I have worked out this does not hinder you in any way as you are what we call up my way, a "shit stirrer"

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

I will now be taking a few days "holiday" no doubt.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist?

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By *arry WindsorMan over a year ago

Heaton Park Manchester

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist? "

Some on here probably think so, Probably.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Some on here probably think so, Probably.

No, you are heterosexual. Don’t you think sexual orientation and racism is completely different?

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist? "

See this is where your argument falls on its ass...just because I don't find someone sexually attractive doesn't mean I don't like them...you are putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist? "

Banana man you are a legend. Big respect too you. I couldnt have put it better myself. Too many band wagon toilets!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist?

See this is where your argument falls on its ass...just because I don't find someone sexually attractive doesn't mean I don't like them...you are putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5. "

This is a sex site so

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Too be fair the only race i cant stand is scotland!! Then religion islam !

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist?

Banana man you are a legend. Big respect too you. I couldnt have put it better myself. Too many band wagon toilets!!! "

Funguy212 did a much better job than me. But people like _ornylittlesub are the poster fans

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist?

Banana man you are a legend. Big respect too you. I couldnt have put it better myself. Too many band wagon toilets!!!

Funguy212 did a much better job than me. But people like _ornylittlesub are the poster fans

If you two BIG men get some kind of kick from insulting women, fire on.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Too be fair the only race i cant stand is scotland!! Then religion islam ! "

But then again a narrow minded halfwit labour supporter will no doubt, say im a fascist and a bigot!!! He will have either no veris!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Too be fair the only race i cant stand is scotland!! Then religion islam !

But then again a narrow minded halfwit labour supporter will no doubt, say im a fascist and a bigot!!! He will have either no veris! "

Left wing admin will now ban, due to truth!!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist?

Banana man you are a legend. Big respect too you. I couldnt have put it better myself. Too many band wagon toilets!!!

Funguy212 did a much better job than me. But people like _ornylittlesub are the poster fans

If you two BIG men get some kind of kick from insulting women, fire on.

Oh the woman card.. sorry didn’t notice

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By *ina VonteeseTV/TS over a year ago

Leicester

It's not the colour of the skin or the culture it's whether you connect.

I have some rather lovely friends and they are great playmates. . And a totally mixed bag got to say though it's the same in every culture or race it's the few that can ruin it for the majority. .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"It's not the colour of the skin or the culture it's whether you connect.

I have some rather lovely friends and they are great playmates. . And a totally mixed bag got to say though it's the same in every culture or race it's the few that can ruin it for the majority. .

Maybe we can have this version on poster profiles

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

As I said on the other thread:

No-one can force to you be attracted to people who you don't find attractive. If you don't find black men attractive, that doesn't make you racist; if you don't find bi men attractive, that doesn't make you homophobic.

However, the reason why people who have statements like 'no blacks' or 'no bi' on their profiles often come in for criticism is because some of them don't STOP at simply 'stating their preferences'.

Instead, they come on the forums and post openly offensive comments about blacks, bi guys, etc., and demonstrate thereby that their preferences are born out of racist/homophobic views...

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By *ornylittlesubWoman over a year ago

Grangemouth

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist?

Banana man you are a legend. Big respect too you. I couldnt have put it better myself. Too many band wagon toilets!!!

Funguy212 did a much better job than me. But people like _ornylittlesub are the poster fans

If you two BIG men get some kind of kick from insulting women, fire on.

Oh the woman card.. sorry didn’t notice "

Not surprised...too busy trolling?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"As I said on the other thread:

However, the reason why people who have statements like 'no blacks' or 'no bi' on their profiles often come in for criticism is because some of them don't STOP at simply 'stating their preferences'.

Instead, they come on the forums and post openly offensive comments about blacks, bi guys, etc., and demonstrate thereby that their preferences are born out of racist/homophobic views..."

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"You don’t have to put it up like a poster from the old days.. if you don’t like someone you don’t like. But don’t you think stating on your profile that no white guys is racist?

Banana man you are a legend. Big respect too you. I couldnt have put it better myself. Too many band wagon toilets!!!

Funguy212 did a much better job than me. But people like _ornylittlesub are the poster fans

If you two BIG men get some kind of kick from insulting women, fire on.

Oh the woman card.. sorry didn’t notice

Not surprised...too busy trolling?"

Anyway.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

[Removed by poster at 01/02/18 01:43:18]

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it?

Nor is sexual preference.

It is SEXUAL preference, not racism."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I heard that sturgeon has been in her box firmly since the last re-election ???

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it?

Nor is sexual preference.

It is SEXUAL preference, not racism.

But under size 14 can be from any race so you are correct it’s not racism it’s preference

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Persuading people to remove objectionable content, makes it harder to reject them. "

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it?

Nor is sexual preference.

It is SEXUAL preference, not racism."

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things. "

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Therefore filtering on age or filtering on bi-sexual/straight is no better than filtering on race from the point of view of the equality act. So when talking about the law and whether something is racist your argument must also work for any other protected characteristic.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is"

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view. "

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm not attracted to men. Am I sexist?

Sexual orientation is not quite the same , is it?

Nor is sexual preference.

It is SEXUAL preference, not racism.

But under size 14 can be from any race so you are correct it’s not racism it’s preference "

Wow !! Completely twisting my post. I was not linking size to race, but you just twisted it. Some people just look to be offended. Congratulations

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I would agree but it should be the same thing on looks and personality too i think.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear. "

You are very clear and no I have not misunderstood. You are treating race as a special case which you cannot do. There is no race relations act anymore as it was repealed and replaced by the equalities act in 2010. This act lists 9 protected characteristics and these must be treated equally in any arguments. So you cannot make an argument based on race that does not also apply to age, sexual orientation, disabilty, religion etc.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear.

I think I’m applying it on people putting it up as posters on fab like we used to have in the old days and you are applying it in employment and other walks of life.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear.

Can you PLEASE log in daily, and post this on this repetitive claim

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Nuts to it, from now on im only accepting friend requests from Enormous Black Vagina .. im EBV for life .

Not really..im not so handsome or hilarious that i have the taters to disqualify any female advances, i do have a preference but i get that when im looking at any collection of stuff..

Bbc

Ebv

Mfi

Cia

Christ..its acronyms gone mad !! Sorry..agm

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear.

I think I’m applying it on people putting it up as posters on fab like we used to have in the old days and you are applying it in employment and other walks of life. "

This IS another walk of life. We are saying we PREFER not to have sex with them

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear.

I think I’m applying it on people putting it up as posters on fab like we used to have in the old days and you are applying it in employment and other walks of life. "

Why is fabs different to other walks of life ? My point is that if it is racist to put something on a profile it is also ageist to fill in an age range ans both are equally right or wrong you cannot take race as a special case. And if race is not a special case then it comes back to personal choice on who you want to sleep with.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear.

I think I’m applying it on people putting it up as posters on fab like we used to have in the old days and you are applying it in employment and other walks of life.

Correct, but do you have to put it up like a poster?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I’m not disputing your view but race and sexual orientation are different things.

I would respectfully suggest you are wrong on this point. The equality act is very clear on the list of protected characteristics and they include race, age, and sexual orientation amongst others.

Yes you are correct but being hetrosexual isn’t illegal but being racist is

Making the choice of who you sleep with based on race is no worse than making that choice based on age or sexuality. They are all equally illegal according to your point of view.

You have misunderstood, I’m not debating that people should sleep with all races or not.. I’m against the posters on profiles saying No black,

No asian and no white. Hope I have made my point clear.

I think I’m applying it on people putting it up as posters on fab like we used to have in the old days and you are applying it in employment and other walks of life.

This IS another walk of life. We are saying we PREFER not to have sex with them

Nobody is saying you should lol

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So if we do not wish to have sex with any particular group of people, THAT is what a profile is for. As long as it isn't written in an offensive way 'no smelly asians', 'not fat people with hanging bellies',it is perfectly acceptable to name what you do, and do not seek.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So if we do not wish to have sex with any particular group of people, THAT is what a profile is for. As long as it isn't written in an offensive way 'no smelly asians', 'not fat people with hanging bellies',it is perfectly acceptable to name what you do, and do not seek.

Okay then

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Okay then "

Thank you for listening

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Okay then

Thank you for listening

Glad you are happy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

I tell you what I find strange though, white women in relationships with white men who only wish to meet "BBC" surely if you love 'black cock' so much you'd marry/be in a relationship with a black man?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

Remember when you started a race thread? Lol

But you make an interesting point.. I don’t know why is that maybe it’s something to do with the social stigma around us

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

Remember when you started a race thread? Lol

But you make an interesting point.. I don’t know why is that maybe it’s something to do with the social stigma around us "

Yes I remember, I was there. Thank you

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

Remember when you started a race thread? Lol

But you make an interesting point.. I don’t know why is that maybe it’s something to do with the social stigma around us

Yes I remember, I was there. Thank you "

You welcome. I thought I must remind you before you criticise others.. anyway how have you been since?

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By *eviantdeliteWoman over a year ago

Cheltenham

Again? It is simply a list of preferences......you have a list of likes and dislikes.....would you blindly fuck someone you didn’t fancy??

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

Remember when you started a race thread? Lol

But you make an interesting point.. I don’t know why is that maybe it’s something to do with the social stigma around us

Yes I remember, I was there. Thank you

You welcome. I thought I must remind you before you criticise others.. anyway how have you been since? "

No one was criticising, I just commented since there seems to be a race thread started every day on here.

And aren't you doing the same thing that you're complaining that I am doing?

Criticising

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Jeez... ive just read through all of this

Some really good points made.

Personally i just prefer to express our preferences in a positive manner.

This

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

Remember when you started a race thread? Lol

But you make an interesting point.. I don’t know why is that maybe it’s something to do with the social stigma around us

Yes I remember, I was there. Thank you

You welcome. I thought I must remind you before you criticise others.. anyway how have you been since?

No one was criticising, I just commented since there seems to be a race thread started every day on here.

And aren't you doing the same thing that you're complaining that I am doing?

Criticising

Well welcome to forums.. anybody can start a topic they feel passionate about.. you don’t have to comment if you aren’t in mood of discussion about that topic and it’s not criticising when you are not the first to criticise

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

Remember when you started a race thread? Lol

But you make an interesting point.. I don’t know why is that maybe it’s something to do with the social stigma around us

Yes I remember, I was there. Thank you

You welcome. I thought I must remind you before you criticise others.. anyway how have you been since?

No one was criticising, I just commented since there seems to be a race thread started every day on here.

And aren't you doing the same thing that you're complaining that I am doing?

Criticising

Yes correct, you don't have to comment, yet here you are commenting.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just out of curiosity, not trying to get a rise out of anyone. Is it offensive when people put 'bbc' welcome, on their profile. Is that not generalising or racist, that people assume black men have big cocks ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Just out of curiosity, not trying to get a rise out of anyone. Is it offensive when people put 'bbc' welcome, on their profile. Is that not generalising or racist, that people assume black men have big cocks ?"

Must be frustrating for those black guys who don't have big cocks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Oh another race thread lol

Not wanting to meet certain people doesn't make you racist. To just clear that up.

Remember when you started a race thread? Lol

But you make an interesting point.. I don’t know why is that maybe it’s something to do with the social stigma around us

Yes I remember, I was there. Thank you

You welcome. I thought I must remind you before you criticise others.. anyway how have you been since?

No one was criticising, I just commented since there seems to be a race thread started every day on here.

And aren't you doing the same thing that you're complaining that I am doing?

Criticising

Yes correct, you don't have to comment, yet here you are commenting. "

Haha I’m not saying ohh another race thread. You are lol

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