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over a year ago
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Science, religion isn’t real god is fake and the bible was written before we had laws in communities to try and get people to behave by laying down rules to follow.
My imaginary friend stopped existing when I grew up.
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By *iss.RedWoman
over a year ago
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"Science, religion isn’t real god is fake and the bible was written before we had laws in communities to try and get people to behave by laying down rules to follow.
My imaginary friend stopped existing when I grew up.
Popcorn anyone?"
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I personally don't believe in any form of God. I have no respect for any religion. I do however hold great respect for what a religion means to each person (except the twisted version that people use to kill for). |
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I have faith in science. But I have seen things that can't be explained by it.
Still don't believe in an almighty and omnipresent entity that is responsible for this shambles though  |
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"Science, religion isn’t real god is fake and the bible was written before we had laws in communities to try and get people to behave by laying down rules to follow.
My imaginary friend stopped existing when I grew up.
Popcorn anyone?"
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"I have faith in science. But I have seen things that can't be explained by it.
Still don't believe in an almighty and omnipresent entity that is responsible for this shambles though "
What you seen chap?
Genuine question not out to mock. |
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Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
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"I have faith in science. But I have seen things that can't be explained by it.
Still don't believe in an almighty and omnipresent entity that is responsible for this shambles though
What you seen chap?
Genuine question not out to mock. "
One example, long story short, I saw someone enter a room up some stairs in front of me in an old abandoned house on a top third floor. Went in the room and no one there with nowhere to hide. And turn to see all my friends were following in behind me. And yes I was sober! |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
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There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it. |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it."
I can write fairytales too
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Defo science. However the two may be intertwined. There could very well be something else that science cannot explain.
When you get to the quantum level things start to become very weird. The reality we observe isn’t the reality that science says should be there. I’m not at all religious but I have become spiritual for sure. There’s something else going on that science can’t explain.
However the way science works is the way to do it. Have a theory and run experiments to prove or disprove. Unbiased based on evidence.
Religion just requires blind faith which is lazy and stupid if you ask me. I think people who are religious gain a sense of peace and community so there’s probably benefits beyond just believing in a man in the sky. |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it."
Interesting, I always wondered why 'God' allowed suffering |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it.
I can write fairytales too
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Nice get out clause  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We're basing our answers on our level of intelligence and knowledge base.
To deny any existence of a greater power is just as hard to prove as it is to show one exists.
There's much we don't understand. Stare into the skies on a clear night and ponder everything. We're pretty limited on the intelligence stakes and learning all the time. |
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"Defo science. However the two may be intertwined. There could very well be something else that science cannot explain.
When you get to the quantum level things start to become very weird. The reality we observe isn’t the reality that science says should be there. I’m not at all religious but I have become spiritual for sure. There’s something else going on that science can’t explain.
However the way science works is the way to do it. Have a theory and run experiments to prove or disprove. Unbiased based on evidence.
Religion just requires blind faith which is lazy and stupid if you ask me. I think people who are religious gain a sense of peace and community so there’s probably benefits beyond just believing in a man in the sky. "
I work in scientific research. Science is not clear cut at all. There’s a lot of opinion, gut feel, and even faith involved...and most importantly, scientists either exaggerating their research in order to get more funding and/or for career purposes, or speaking outside their area of expertise...so we should be careful in accepting any scientific “truth” pedalled to us by the media. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Science can’t explain everything.
It annoys the fuck out of me when you tell someone something that has happened to you and they try to justify it by science or logic.
You weren’t there, you didn’t have it happen to you.
Don’t be so arrogant as to think you know better than the person it happened to.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Mother Nature can provide enough fear, awe, destruction, beauty as you could wish for, without need of bowing down, appeasement or idolising. I don't believe in God's as people more as forces of nature . So in a wishy washy way I'm saying science more than religion then |
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There is life after death I’m positive, not to sure if heaven and hell are real... or if god exists,
Life’s creation i’m Going with science, as for the rest of it!!!
I guess we will only find out when we finally leave!
God what a conversation! Lol |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it.
I can write fairytales too
Nice get out clause "
There's a lot more to faith than just belief in an omnipotent being. The majority of the Bible relates to human interaction and generally being a decent person |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it.
I can write fairytales too
Nice get out clause
There's a lot more to faith than just belief in an omnipotent being. The majority of the Bible relates to human interaction and generally being a decent person"
So do most children's stories.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it.
I can write fairytales too
Nice get out clause
There's a lot more to faith than just belief in an omnipotent being. The majority of the Bible relates to human interaction and generally being a decent person
So do most children's stories.
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There's a lot more to faith than just belief in an omnipotent being. The majority of the Bible relates to human interaction and generally being a decent person"
This. As Douglas Adams said in H2G2...2000 years after a man was nailed to a cross for basically telling people to be nice to each other...
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By (user no longer on site)
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Just watching the new programme on Netflix about deadly animals, some of the commentary made me laugh. A young girl was attacked by a jaguar and needed serious surgery to her head.
Commentator goes on to say something along the lines of
After 22 hours on the operating table, the families prayers are finally answered and the girl is ok.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'm very much undecided, the way I see it if there was a big bang then the whole world is just a big accident and I think nature is just too beautiful and perfect in the way it works to be an accident.
Now religion, do I believe there was once someone calls Jesus that claimed to be the son of god? Yes, but I don't think the bible is completely a true reflection of events, but I don't think it's meant to be literal either. I do think there is something greater just not sure what but I don't think it's what we are told God looks like.
I guess I'm just edging my bets really 
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
There's an explanation in the Old Testament (Genesis, I think) but basically humans chose to have free will and accepted the shit that went with it.
Interesting, I always wondered why 'God' allowed suffering "
Suffering in the world is the work of the devil  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I see no conflict between good science and spiritual reality.  "
Really? Define spiritual reality? In terms of religion that is.... Religion, like astrology is al mum o jumbo for ignorant masses and designed to keep them that way! |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
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the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.  |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian. "
Funny right? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I don't see OP asked whether you believe in God or science?.
I think most of you don't know what is religion and God means in first place... Only when u can differentiate between them, you can answer OP's question... |
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the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian. "
Another “quote”...from CS Lewis in The Last Battle...Aslan (Jesus/God) says that nothing bad can be done in my name, and nothing good can be done in Tash’s (the Devil) name”. Implying it’s the behaviour we should concentrate on, not whose name it is done in. |
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San pellengrino |
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"Ok so all you need is;
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And how about Porn? I don't think I could live without porn. Maybe Crisps too.
Love
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Anything else?
San pellengrino"
Lemon? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.
Funny right? "
They really thought they were quite devout as well! |
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"Ok so all you need is;
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Pussy Licking
and Kink
And how about Porn? I don't think I could live without porn. Maybe Crisps too.
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
Kink
Porn
and Crisps
Anything else?
"
Chocolate
Oh...and a must....alcohol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok so all you need is;
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
and Kink
And how about Porn? I don't think I could live without porn. Maybe Crisps too.
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
Kink
Porn
and Crisps
Anything else?
"
Need something to wash it all down |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Ok so all you need is;
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
and Kink
And how about Porn? I don't think I could live without porn. Maybe Crisps too.
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
Kink
Porn
and Crisps
Anything else?
Chocolate
Oh...and a must....alcohol "
According to some religion alcohol is big Noooooo |
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"What do you believe in more?
Go"
'Believe in' , in what way ?
Are you asking me if I think one has credence and the other doesn't ?
Are you asking if I believe that one could guide my life more than the other ?
What do you mean by 'believe in more?'
I know which one sold the most books. |
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"Ok so all you need is;
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Pussy Licking
and Kink
And how about Porn? I don't think I could live without porn. Maybe Crisps too.
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
Kink
Porn
and Crisps
Anything else?
Need something to wash it all down "
We've got San Pellegrino and Alcohol (various) for that now |
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"Ok so all you need is;
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
and Kink
And how about Porn? I don't think I could live without porn. Maybe Crisps too.
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
Kink
Porn
and Crisps
Anything else?
Chocolate
Oh...and a must....alcohol
According to some religion alcohol is big Noooooo "
Well that's a stupid fucking religion, what sort of knob head is going to sign up to that!? |
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"What do you believe in more?
Go
'Believe in' , in what way ?
Are you asking me if I think one has credence and the other doesn't ?
Are you asking if I believe that one could guide my life more than the other ?
What do you mean by 'believe in more?'
I know which one sold the most books. "
Actually wouldn't mind seeing the sales for that because obviously I guess you think the Bible. |
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"Ok so all you need is;
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
and Kink
And how about Porn? I don't think I could live without porn. Maybe Crisps too.
Love
Blow Jobs
Sweets
Pussy Licking
Kink
Porn
and Crisps
Anything else?
Need something to wash it all down
We've got San Pellegrino and Alcohol (various) for that now "
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"What do you believe in more?
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'Believe in' , in what way ?
Are you asking me if I think one has credence and the other doesn't ?
Are you asking if I believe that one could guide my life more than the other ?
What do you mean by 'believe in more?'
I know which one sold the most books.
Actually wouldn't mind seeing the sales for that because obviously I guess you think the Bible. "
The Bible is one book. I meant books. Science books and Books on religion ..... not a single Christian book. |
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"Decided today, I don't believe in God or science. Everything happens on this triangle based on chickens.
You always say based. You just expect us to accept that. Why is it based ?"
Because my sub woofer (obviously designed by chickens) is awsome |
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"Decided today, I don't believe in God or science. Everything happens on this triangle based on chickens.
You always say based. You just expect us to accept that. Why is it based ?
Because my sub woofer (obviously designed by chickens) is awsome "
That's it then. The answer to spaghetti. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The scientific method is the best we have for understanding how the world works but it doesn't prove anything it disproves things.
The best reason the believing in god that I have heard is pascals wager.
I do think Buddhism is much more practical and meditation has been shown to change the brain.
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.
Funny right?
They really thought they were quite devout as well! "
It's always funny that the most judgemental people on these threads are (the open minded and tolerant) atheists. |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.
Funny right?
They really thought they were quite devout as well!
It's always funny that the most judgemental people on these threads are (the open minded and tolerant) atheists. "
Interesting that you would make such a judgement. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.
Funny right?
They really thought they were quite devout as well!
It's always funny that the most judgemental people on these threads are (the open minded and tolerant) atheists. "
Apart from the god aspect I consider myself a very good Christian, in the real world obviously! |
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By *ty31Man
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.
Funny right?
They really thought they were quite devout as well!
It's always funny that the most judgemental people on these threads are (the open minded and tolerant) atheists.
Interesting that you would make such a judgement. "
Observation. It just interests me why some are so bothered by others personal beliefs. |
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"I'm here to give voice to the agnostics.
And I am representing the ducks.
I am here to represent the agnostic ducks
I’d like scientific proof that agnostic ducks exist
You are all quackers."
Or maybe Quakers? |
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"I'm here to give voice to the agnostics.
And I am representing the ducks.
I am here to represent the agnostic ducks
I’d like scientific proof that agnostic ducks exist"
I've never seen ducks at mass ....... I've seen them walk on water tho ..... hmmmmmmmmm it's a tricky one. |
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"I'm here to give voice to the agnostics.
And I am representing the ducks.
I am here to represent the agnostic ducks
I’d like scientific proof that agnostic ducks exist
You are all quackers.
Or maybe Quakers?"
We are all here for the oats ! |
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"I'm here to give voice to the agnostics.
And I am representing the ducks.
I am here to represent the agnostic ducks
I’d like scientific proof that agnostic ducks exist
You are all quackers.
Or maybe Quakers?
We are all here for the oats !"
Does that mean we have to do Porridge then? |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.
Funny right?
They really thought they were quite devout as well!
It's always funny that the most judgemental people on these threads are (the open minded and tolerant) atheists.
Interesting that you would make such a judgement.
Observation. It just interests me why some are so bothered by others personal beliefs."
Oh I'm not. My guru tells me to let things go. |
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"I'm here to give voice to the agnostics.
And I am representing the ducks.
I am here to represent the agnostic ducks
I’d like scientific proof that agnostic ducks exist
You are all quackers.
Or maybe Quakers?
We are all here for the oats !
Does that mean we have to do Porridge then?"
Stir the porridge |
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"I'm here to give voice to the agnostics.
And I am representing the ducks.
I am here to represent the agnostic ducks
I’d like scientific proof that agnostic ducks exist
You are all quackers.
Or maybe Quakers?
We are all here for the oats !
Does that mean we have to do Porridge then?
Stir the porridge "
With my little spoon? |
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I’m not religious in any scientific shape or form. I don’t believe in a god. I don’t believe in the afterworld. I do believe however in the theory that suggests there was a Big Bang and that from that point onwards the universe as we comprehend it expands to the point of collapse..... and then everything compresses to the point of explosion... a Big Bang if you will.... and then the cycle repeats.... |
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To be fair of God popped down off his high horse and convinced me he was real then fair enough, however I understand he’s had a chat with other people in the past? |
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" We're basing our answers on our level of intelligence and knowledge base.
To deny any existence of a greater power is just as hard to prove as it is to show one exists.
There's much we don't understand. Stare into the skies on a clear night and ponder everything. We're pretty limited on the intelligence stakes and learning all the time."
That's what a true scientists says in my opinion. |
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"Defo science. However the two may be intertwined. There could very well be something else that science cannot explain.
When you get to the quantum level things start to become very weird. The reality we observe isn’t the reality that science says should be there. I’m not at all religious but I have become spiritual for sure. There’s something else going on that science can’t explain.
However the way science works is the way to do it. Have a theory and run experiments to prove or disprove. Unbiased based on evidence.
Religion just requires blind faith which is lazy and stupid if you ask me. I think people who are religious gain a sense of peace and community so there’s probably benefits beyond just believing in a man in the sky.
I work in scientific research. Science is not clear cut at all. There’s a lot of opinion, gut feel, and even faith involved...and most importantly, scientists either exaggerating their research in order to get more funding and/or for career purposes, or speaking outside their area of expertise...so we should be careful in accepting any scientific “truth” pedalled to us by the media. "
Yup this - not a good idea to make science the latest idol! |
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Science is about pursuit of the scientific method, leading to an improved understanding of the world. Religion is an organized belief system that may involve supernatural agents, rituals and behavioral codes, some having been around for several thousand years.
Science may allow us to investigate the many facets of religion and religions could utilize the approach to help evaluate any veracity of their system.
I think tribal leaders co-opted religions to help control their people, especially as societies grew larger. Religious belief systems appear to probably use everyday human cognitive abilities,rather than a special gift. There appears no particularly deep bed of evidence for the existence of any of the supernatural beings, despite the huge volumes of people and enormous time periods.
I'm happy to devote more of my life to science than religion. |
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"Science is about pursuit of the scientific method, leading to an improved understanding of the world. Religion is an organized belief system that may involve supernatural agents, rituals and behavioral codes, some having been around for several thousand years.
Science may allow us to investigate the many facets of religion and religions could utilize the approach to help evaluate any veracity of their system.
I think tribal leaders co-opted religions to help control their people, especially as societies grew larger. Religious belief systems appear to probably use everyday human cognitive abilities,rather than a special gift. There appears no particularly deep bed of evidence for the existence of any of the supernatural beings, despite the huge volumes of people and enormous time periods.
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'Supernatural beings' is not a phrase I would use.....put it this way, there is a massively 'deep bed' of spiritual evidence for spiritual laws and realities of all kinds, including a great deal of physical evidence which, whilst scientifically documented, is thus far not understood.
If I try and measure radiation with a slide ruler I might not find any evidence. |
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"I think humans are basically up their arses and fucking arrogant to think that there is nothing superior to them."
Blame the white man - he thought he was superior to animals, blacks and women. |
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"I see no conflict between good science and spiritual reality.
Really? Define spiritual reality? In terms of religion that is.... Religion, like astrology is al mum o jumbo for ignorant masses and designed to keep them that way!"
An intellectual argument right there  .
Thank god for sarcasm |
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"If you believe in fact based proven science over a book written full of lies then you need to ask yourself some big questions "
Cos the flood never happened huh? |
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"I see no conflict between good science and spiritual reality.
Really? Define spiritual reality? In terms of religion that is.... Religion, like astrology is al mum o jumbo for ignorant masses and designed to keep them that way!
An intellectual argument right there .
Thank god for sarcasm "
Haha, oh I missed that reply - fabulous display of the scientific method there.... 
Define spiritual reality? I guess those spiritual states, principles or laws as they actually exist, as opposed to an idealistic, notional or distorted idea of them. |
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"If you believe in fact based proven science over a book written full of lies then you need to ask yourself some big questions
Cos the flood never happened huh? "
This person is arguing that one should NOT believe 'fact based proven science' over a 'book of lies'!! |
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Science vs religion is a pointless debate.
Science delivers practical tangible results.
Religion offers emotional support and (often dubious) morality.
It's like saying 'what's best, kindness or aspirin?'
The answer obviously being, it depends on the situation and what the person most needs. |
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"there is a massively 'deep bed' of spiritual evidence for spiritual laws and realities of all kinds"
'spiritual evidence' is not a thing.
There's just evidence. If you have to add 'spiritual' to it, then it just means it's something you really think is true but that you can't back up with actual facts. |
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"there is a massively 'deep bed' of spiritual evidence for spiritual laws and realities of all kinds
'spiritual evidence' is not a thing.
There's just evidence. If you have to add 'spiritual' to it, then it just means it's something you really think is true but that you can't back up with actual facts. "
Incorrect. It simply means evidence that is not physical lol! |
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"Science vs religion is a pointless debate.
Science delivers practical tangible results.
Religion offers emotional support and (often dubious) morality.
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Many religions do not offer that at all - they often challenge people to the core of their being and make life very uncomfortable for them. You need to research a little deeper. |
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"there is a massively 'deep bed' of spiritual evidence for spiritual laws and realities of all kinds
'spiritual evidence' is not a thing.
There's just evidence. If you have to add 'spiritual' to it, then it just means it's something you really think is true but that you can't back up with actual facts. "
Would you agree that one definition of a (scientific) fact is a theory waiting to be disproved?
Say yes.
Then god is a (scientific) fact |
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"I personally don't believe in any form of God. I have no respect for any religion. I do however hold great respect for what a religion means to each person (except the twisted version that people use to kill for)."
This is my thinking. A lot of people get through life with faith. People have a lot of crap to put up with and if faith helps them manage that then that's great. It's simply not for me. |
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Religion is so stupid and is the worst thing ever to be created, thousands of people killing and being killed causing shit all over the world in the name of religion its just ridiculous. Science all the way. Religion was just early man's uneducated simple minded attempt of trying to understand life and where we all came from before we had science to back things up, and the whole "god, a higher power made us" would have been there only reasonable explanation because what else are you going to think after looking up at the stars for years with no knowledge or understanding of anything ever. Why people still believe in this stone aged nonsense blows my mind, yes its nice to have hope and it can change peoples lives around for the better but still... c'mon use your head |
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"Religion, no. How can anyone possibly think that there is some almighty being when the world is full of pain and suffering.
If you want to go and pray to some invisible being to feel enriched and such then that is your right, however I generally find religious types to be hypocrites and not very devout at all.
the most unchristian people I've ever met were allegedly Christian.
Funny right?
They really thought they were quite devout as well!
It's always funny that the most judgemental people on these threads are (the open minded and tolerant) atheists. "
where does it say that atheists have to be open minded and tolerant? |
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I believe both exist. One is real and can be proven or argued with facts, the other is completely fabricated by mans own imagination.
(Sorry I forgot to say woman's, becuase she was an after thought when god created humans ) |
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I have alot more trust in science but i dont take everything as fact at times simply because just like humans science constantly evolves and advances so stuff we have known as fact change in certain cases anyone familiar with graham hancock will know as a example, everything we thought we knew maybe we dont and i like that we may not know it all. Very interesting guy
Religion to me is a form of control. I respect everones beliefs that is just mine |
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After reading all replies and using them as the sole source of evidence, it's very clear that no one here knows what religion or science are.
Maybe they decided to keep everyone in a state of confusion like religion and science do. |
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Today I have stopped believing that chickens are the all powerful overlords of the universe.
Religion is not and was never dumb. It was originally an incredibly clever construct to bind groups of people into societies. After the creation of heaven and hell, there was even control after death.
Problem is people. If we become actively part of a group we automatically turn on other groups. The group is fairly unimportant, it could be your village, tribe, football team, religion, skin colour whatever. This instinct is no different to animals marking and protecting their territory, even plant's do it.
Should we ever discover life on another planet we will instinctively distrust them, try to feel superior to them and probably end up fighting them.
It's a bit depressing, but that is nature for you.
As for science which I am also currently refusing to believe in, there are 3 kinds of all branches of science. The done stuff e.g. the chemistry and physics involved in making a match stick catch fire and burn.
The thought of stuff e.g. gravity, we kind of get it. But not 100% sure about it's entire scope, or how to make it.
And the conjecture e.g. string or membrane theory, where mathematical models may cause thoughts to go in a direction but actual proof is probably well beyond our ability, but if it is proven we then embark on a new science to figure out how to use it.
Most progress from evolution through to chopping up atoms to make energy works on the oops principle. The true art of science is to dip your toe into the cool inviting liquid and see if it feels good or burns your foot off before diving in. We don't always get that one right...
Perhaps I will continue to believe in chickens for another day or two, just in case...
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"Today I have stopped believing that chickens are the all powerful overlords of the universe.
Religion is not and was never dumb. It was originally an incredibly clever construct to bind groups of people into societies. After the creation of heaven and hell, there was even control after death.
Problem is people. If we become actively part of a group we automatically turn on other groups. The group is fairly unimportant, it could be your village, tribe, football team, religion, skin colour whatever. This instinct is no different to animals marking and protecting their territory, even plant's do it.
Should we ever discover life on another planet we will instinctively distrust them, try to feel superior to them and probably end up fighting them.
It's a bit depressing, but that is nature for you.
As for science which I am also currently refusing to believe in, there are 3 kinds of all branches of science. The done stuff e.g. the chemistry and physics involved in making a match stick catch fire and burn.
The thought of stuff e.g. gravity, we kind of get it. But not 100% sure about it's entire scope, or how to make it.
And the conjecture e.g. string or membrane theory, where mathematical models may cause thoughts to go in a direction but actual proof is probably well beyond our ability, but if it is proven we then embark on a new science to figure out how to use it.
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Good post. That's my feeling on the spiritual - science will get there eventually, it is starting to already. |
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