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What is the world coming to, part (erm, i've lost count)
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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A bin man slips on the ice and bumps his head during his round and has to go to A+E. The local council then see fit to suspend all bin collections until further notice urging people to take their bins back indoors.
Obviously this is an unfortunate event and i feel for the guy who's going to have a headache for a while, but really? What an incredible overreaction on the part of the council.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Agreed seems an over reaction but circumstances like this are an attraction for people making injury claims some of which are false. Probably the council just trying to protect their finances a little. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Cheltenham. Not only have residents (many of whom will be elderly) had to struggle in the ice and cold to put their bins out they now have to risk life and limb taking them back in again. Surely this is nothing more than occupational hazard, learn from it and carry on ffs. |
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"Cheltenham. Not only have residents (many of whom will be elderly) had to struggle in the ice and cold to put their bins out they now have to risk life and limb taking them back in again. Surely this is nothing more than occupational hazard, learn from it and carry on ffs."
And while they learn from it they should just carry in as normal, risking their employees health in the mean time? Investigations and remedial actions take time to complete.
I do think it's ridiculous that the council don't have a cold weather strategy for jobs like this. It is a foreseeable risk that bin men have to work in cold weather.
I'm off to find a link to the story. No doubt health and safety is the scape goat rather than simple bad management of a situation. |
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http://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/cheltenham-news/its-dangerous-out-there-bin-983997
So stopped for a day by the contractor and plans in place to allow people to put out extra rubbish in the coming collections.
The guy who went to hospital hadn't even started his round before he slipped. I'd wager incorrect footwear for a start. |
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"Councils if nothing else are good for overreacting  "
And the reason? Because for too long too many arseholes have been launching claims against them - some genuine, some bogus.
It's usually the people who rage about 'Elf and Safety gorn maaaad!' who are the first to reach for the no-win no-fee solicitors at the first sign of a trip or stubbed toe. These are the people we should be raging against. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Councils if nothing else are good for overreacting
And the reason? Because for too long too many arseholes have been launching claims against them - some genuine, some bogus.
It's usually the people who rage about 'Elf and Safety gorn maaaad!' who are the first to reach for the no-win no-fee solicitors at the first sign of a trip or stubbed toe. These are the people we should be raging against."
I am one of those people you mention and i've suffered far worse inuries in my working life than a bumped head. I've never made a claim against anyone nor have i stopped working as a result.
The only thing that needs to be learnt in this instance is that people should watch where they put their feet and the only cold weather strategy necessary. |
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Unless you were this man's actual doctor you have no idea what the injury sustained was. OK it wasn't a fatality but you are making out like it was just some bruise or something.
This is why I hate journalism like this. Reporting half stories just to fill column inches. Gives people free reign to fill in the blanks.
If you would not walk in certain areas because of ice, why do you expect others to do so? Yes its their job to collect rubbish but I would say it's not an essential service and stopping for ONE Day is not a major inconvenience.
If you were a bin man I'd be fairly safe in saying you wouldn't have posted this thread (of course, now you will say if you were a bin man you'd get through no matter the conditions. The rubbish must be collected at all costs!) |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Unless you were this man's actual doctor you have no idea what the injury sustained was. OK it wasn't a fatality but you are making out like it was just some bruise or something.
This is why I hate journalism like this. Reporting half stories just to fill column inches. Gives people free reign to fill in the blanks.
If you would not walk in certain areas because of ice, why do you expect others to do so? Yes its their job to collect rubbish but I would say it's not an essential service and stopping for ONE Day is not a major inconvenience.
If you were a bin man I'd be fairly safe in saying you wouldn't have posted this thread (of course, now you will say if you were a bin man you'd get through no matter the conditions. The rubbish must be collected at all costs!) "
The severity of the injury sustained is not the point. The point of this post is that the council sees fit to suspend all collections as a result which i see as an intense overreaction. As the title says.... |
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"Unless you were this man's actual doctor you have no idea what the injury sustained was. OK it wasn't a fatality but you are making out like it was just some bruise or something.
This is why I hate journalism like this. Reporting half stories just to fill column inches. Gives people free reign to fill in the blanks.
If you would not walk in certain areas because of ice, why do you expect others to do so? Yes its their job to collect rubbish but I would say it's not an essential service and stopping for ONE Day is not a major inconvenience.
If you were a bin man I'd be fairly safe in saying you wouldn't have posted this thread (of course, now you will say if you were a bin man you'd get through no matter the conditions. The rubbish must be collected at all costs!)
The severity of the injury sustained is not the point. The point of this post is that the council sees fit to suspend all collections as a result which i see as an intense overreaction. As the title says...."
Except it was the contractor that suspended collection, not the council. An overreaction perhaps but as I said, it was for one day, not a protracted length if time. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's the 'where there's blame/pain there's a claim' society that we live in nowadays.
It's sad and pathetic, nothing is ever a genuine accident these days. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Unless you were this man's actual doctor you have no idea what the injury sustained was. OK it wasn't a fatality but you are making out like it was just some bruise or something.
This is why I hate journalism like this. Reporting half stories just to fill column inches. Gives people free reign to fill in the blanks.
If you would not walk in certain areas because of ice, why do you expect others to do so? Yes its their job to collect rubbish but I would say it's not an essential service and stopping for ONE Day is not a major inconvenience.
If you were a bin man I'd be fairly safe in saying you wouldn't have posted this thread (of course, now you will say if you were a bin man you'd get through no matter the conditions. The rubbish must be collected at all costs!)
The severity of the injury sustained is not the point. The point of this post is that the council sees fit to suspend all collections as a result which i see as an intense overreaction. As the title says...."
Total overreaction. |
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"A bin man slips on the ice and bumps his head during his round and has to go to A+E. The local council then see fit to suspend all bin collections until further notice urging people to take their bins back indoors.
Obviously this is an unfortunate event and i feel for the guy who's going to have a headache for a while, but really? What an incredible overreaction on the part of the council. "
They should grit the pavements then  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Unless you were this man's actual doctor you have no idea what the injury sustained was. OK it wasn't a fatality but you are making out like it was just some bruise or something.
This is why I hate journalism like this. Reporting half stories just to fill column inches. Gives people free reign to fill in the blanks.
If you would not walk in certain areas because of ice, why do you expect others to do so? Yes its their job to collect rubbish but I would say it's not an essential service and stopping for ONE Day is not a major inconvenience.
If you were a bin man I'd be fairly safe in saying you wouldn't have posted this thread (of course, now you will say if you were a bin man you'd get through no matter the conditions. The rubbish must be collected at all costs!)
The severity of the injury sustained is not the point. The point of this post is that the council sees fit to suspend all collections as a result which i see as an intense overreaction. As the title says....
Except it was the contractor that suspended collection, not the council. An overreaction perhaps but as I said, it was for one day, not a protracted length if time. "
The contractor then, not the council but the facts remain unchanged. I am aware that employers have a duty of care towards their employees but lets not forget that employees also have a duty of care towards themselves. Risk can be minimised but no one can expect it to be eradicated. As i said, an occupational hazard. |
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