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A cheaters journey (very long, sorry!)

By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Yes, another cheater thread (sorry!).

Following in from the married / attached thread, I've had a forum scan and there's lots of them, most are very black and white: cheating is wrong, there is never a justification.

My view is that everyone who cheats will have their own story and journey that led them to the point that they decided to cheat.

This is one story. There will be millions of others that take a different path. I apologise now that this post will be very long, but actually I've had to truncate most of it for brevity!

I'm telling this not to try and justify my cheating, or gain empathy (or even sympathy) and it's certainly not to try and change anyone's view. It's just my story of why I'm here, doing this.

For some, much of what I say will resonate. For others it will continue to be totally incomprehensible and the ultimate betrayal. I get that and respect all of those views.

Anyway. Me? Mid 40's, married nearly 20 years. And an irregular cheat, probably meeting others 2 or 3 times a year for sex.

Many ask 'why don't you just divorce if you're not happy?'.

Well, here's the thing: I AM happy, I love my wife to bits. She's my soulmate, best friend, we share common interests, have a similar sense of humour. I'd jump in front of a lorry to save her and I can't contemplate ever being without her.

How the hell then can I even begin to contemplate having sex with other women without her knowledge? The most heinous of betrayals?

Well, pretty much every aspect of our marriage is perfect - except one. The frequency of sex we have.

We started off like most other couples. Sex like rabbits, often! Then life changes. Work, kids, daily life, age, dare I say familiarity. Whatever the reasons the sex diminishes. Yes - we've talked about it. Yes, I tell her how hot I find her (and I do). The simple fact is she desires sex a lot less than me. We still have sex, but very infrequently. And it's good when we do. I'm not going to pressure her into sex if she's not in the mood or tired etc. and I don't blame her for anything, I know things just move on.

I could go on but in the interests of time lets just agree that we have reached a point where our sexual needs have diverged (for the record we've talked about it, discussed counselling etc).

Anyway, here's the key point in my personal journey: it started to frustrate me. I know it sounds selfish, but it really did threaten the otherwise perfect relationship, and had the potential to drive a wedge between us when there had never been one before. Quite simply sexual release is too important to me and I couldn't contemplate a life without it.

So this left me with a few options:

(a) Accept a lifetime close to celibacy.

(b) Resort to wanking.

(d) Use prostitutes.

(e) Meet others off Swing sites for NSA sex.

Celibacy and wanking doesn't satisfy the need of fulfilling sex with another person. An affair means feelings and commitment for another and that's absolutely not what I'm after, the love of my life is at home. I did start off with a visit to an escort, but it was mechanical and cold and going through the motions. It didn't feel right (for me). So meeting likeminded people for recreational casual sex via Swingers sites, having sex because we both wanted it (obviously getting on, liking each other and having a connection), but leaving all other strings comprehensively unattached when we leave the hotel room, satisfied my craving, scratched my itch.

Yes, I know it's incredibly self-centred and immoral, but the release I get on an irregular basis via recreational sex with someone that I have no lasting emotional ties to means I have no pent up frustration, no growing resentment about my lack of sex and hence can continue to enjoy everything else about my marriage to the full. No arguments at home. No pressurising my other half into sex when she doesn't want it. No relationship issues threatening our stability and happiness.

This is the bit that I KNOW many will just not be able to comprehend or accept, and many may say it's me just trying to justify my cheating, but actually I'm pretty damn sure my cheating has, rather than be a destructive force in my marriage, actually helped to maintain the integrity of all other aspects of it and kept it strong.

Some will nod in agreement. Others will be incessant at the hypocrisy of it all. And I get that.

I would ask all those happily married swinging couples (or singles) if the sex suddenly stopped could you accept it? Could you live without sex for the rest of your lives with no issues? Honestly? I know you probably think you could and that you'd absolutely respect your partners wishes. But it's easy to think that while the sex is still on tap and you're probably in the fortunate positions that your partner would consent to you playing with others anyway.

I know my wife would be devastated if she ever found out and hurting her is the last thing I want to do, so I have to be very careful in what I do. I do feel guilt about the betrayal but know, absolutely, that our relationship would definitely have suffered had I maintained the status quo and let the frustration build.

Anyway, sorry its so long. As I say I'm not looking to 'justify' my behaviour. Just putting my story out there. I know many will hate, and a cheater is a cheater is a cheater. But thanks for listening anyway.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

A) you have no need to justify or explain yourself to anybody here.

B) my opinion is that disclosing all this private stuff about your marriage and your wife isn't a great idea.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"A) you have no need to justify or explain yourself to anybody here.

B) my opinion is that disclosing all this private stuff about your marriage and your wife isn't a great idea."

Thank you.

I agree with both of your points fully

Had I not been a totally anonymous entity under a pseudonym that nobody knows then, of course, there’s no way I would post personal info like that on a public forum.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

Valid point. No reason other than to put another perspective from the oft held view that cheaters must be unhappy in their marriages. But you’re right, the people I’ve met haven’t given two hoops about it!

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By *unandbuckCouple over a year ago

Sheffield

Did you miss off option f) - talk and find if there is something behind her lowered sex drive? Feelings of not feeling sexy, tired, not feeling wanted, thinking you want other women more etc etc etc. Just an option that worth thinking about too.

MrB

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By *od ThrusterMan over a year ago

Newport Pagnell

Well written piece, and I get it. There are probably lots of other men and women in the same boat.

You say that in a way it has made your relationship "better" but do you not feel guilt at your cheating which conversely makes it "worse"?

Not judging, just wondering.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"A) you have no need to justify or explain yourself to anybody here.

B) my opinion is that disclosing all this private stuff about your marriage and your wife isn't a great idea.

Thank you.

I agree with both of your points fully

Had I not been a totally anonymous entity under a pseudonym that nobody knows then, of course, there’s no way I would post personal info like that on a public forum. "

I think you're at liberty to post what you like about yourself on a forum that can be read without even logging in. I say this in a neutral way, is it ok to mention your wife and her sex drive as well? I guess you put this up for comment or discussion, if not feel free to ignore me

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Tldr

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Did you miss off option f) - talk and find if there is something behind her lowered sex drive? Feelings of not feeling sexy, tired, not feeling wanted, thinking you want other women more etc etc etc. Just an option that worth thinking about too.

MrB"

Thank you. Yes, we have. I skipped over it a bit due to trying to maintain some brevity. But we have discussed yes.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

Yup. You're happy

That just screams happy, that post

The very fact that you feel the need to broadcast your 'happiness' says it all

Rather than posting that, maybe you could have been doing something special for your partner?

You know, to tell HER how happy you are?

It is a week before Christmas, after all

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"A) you have no need to justify or explain yourself to anybody here.

B) my opinion is that disclosing all this private stuff about your marriage and your wife isn't a great idea.

Thank you.

I agree with both of your points fully

Had I not been a totally anonymous entity under a pseudonym that nobody knows then, of course, there’s no way I would post personal info like that on a public forum.

I accept what you’re saying. It was mentioned to put context into my reasons for being here, whilst maintaining anonymity. If this was wrong, I genuinely apologise.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I understand why you do, my marriage was destroyed by sex amongst other things. As long as it is just sex then I’m not saying it’s ok but it does stop that frustration seeping into what otherwise Is a good marriage x

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

Yup. You're happy

That just screams happy, that post

The very fact that you feel the need to broadcast your 'happiness' says it all

Rather than posting that, maybe you could have been doing something special for your partner?

You know, to tell HER how happy you are?

It is a week before Christmas, after all"

We do lots of special things together.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Well written piece, and I get it. There are probably lots of other men and women in the same boat.

You say that in a way it has made your relationship "better" but do you not feel guilt at your cheating which conversely makes it "worse"?

Not judging, just wondering."

Thanks. There is an inner guilt. I accept its wrong and dishonest. It’s the lesser of two evils for me. Others will disagree.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple over a year ago

London

"I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

Genuine question. How would you feel if you found out she was secretly having sex with others

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm not convinced that putting so much personal detail on here is ever a good thing.

But I'm impressed you did with such clarity and honesty....if I dare use that word.

There are only three people's opinions that matter here yours those you meet and if she ever finds out your partners.

None of us have perfect lives and we only ever get one shot at this.

All we can to is live our lives in the way we feel best for us and those we care for.

I have a feeling this thread will result in the usual polarised responses but this is your life and others opinions matter. But I will not be joining any rush to condemn you for making decisions that are about your life or needs.

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

"A) you have no need to justify or explain yourself to anybody here.

B) my opinion is that disclosing all this private stuff about your marriage and your wife isn't a great idea.

Thank you.

I agree with both of your points fully

Had I not been a totally anonymous entity under a pseudonym that nobody knows then, of course, there’s no way I would post personal info like that on a public forum.

I accept what you’re saying. It was mentioned to put context into my reasons for being here, whilst maintaining anonymity. If this was wrong, I genuinely apologise. "

You've done nothing that you need to apologise to me or anyone here about.

My point is that you want to protect your wife yet expose her to our scrutiny.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

Genuine question. How would you feel if you found out she was secretly having sex with others "

Devasted and I know how hypocritical that seems.

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By *urlesque!Woman over a year ago

Gloucester

We do lots of special things together. "
I actually do not think you need to justify or explain yourself - you chose to share your story and some people do not think it is a good idea. But that should not really force you into justifying it even more - you do what you do and it is your life, your wife's life.

I do not have an issue with attached guys - but I do not wish to meet them. It would be great if we could agree that those who do "cheat" should not judge the people who choose not to engage with them and vice versa.

Problem solved

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

An interest and honest post, and like others have said, you have no need to explain yourself to anyone here.

I do wonder why you chose to pose the hypothetical question to swinging couples ? To ask others suggests you may be saying "you dont understand"?

No one other than you and your wife will have the solution, and condescending as it sounds I do fear you may be moving further and further away from the solution. Having said that it may work for you and your relationship. We're all different. Good luck.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"A) you have no need to justify or explain yourself to anybody here.

B) my opinion is that disclosing all this private stuff about your marriage and your wife isn't a great idea.

Thank you.

I agree with both of your points fully

Had I not been a totally anonymous entity under a pseudonym that nobody knows then, of course, there’s no way I would post personal info like that on a public forum.

I accept what you’re saying. It was mentioned to put context into my reasons for being here, whilst maintaining anonymity. If this was wrong, I genuinely apologise.

You've done nothing that you need to apologise to me or anyone here about.

My point is that you want to protect your wife yet expose her to our scrutiny. "

I think this may be more about guilt and low self esteem as a result of pursuing the desire?

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

How do you feel about the huge possibility that your wife is doing exactly the same as you,on another site another forum,with countless verifications for one off's,gangbangs etc?

We all know how easy it is for women to get sex on these site's.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple over a year ago

London

"I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

Genuine question. How would you feel if you found out she was secretly having sex with others

Devasted and I know how hypocritical that seems. "

What if she said her reason was that she didn't fancy you anymore, but wanted to stay with you and extra curricular sex was a way of coping with that?

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thank you all for your feedback. I’m going to leave the thread now. It was one story out of thousands. I know most will not agree with my actions, and I accept this.

I am not intending to snub anyone by not replying, and thank you in advance for replying to the thread.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

Of course most people who cheat on the person they love will have a reason for doing so and some are just serial cheaters. I just feel doing something behind your partner's back, which would totally devastate them, whatever it was, is cruel. I have seen the fallout, in my own family, of a cheating husband and I won't put the details on here, but just to stay it had devastating consequences. People have to do what is right for them in their own relationships. Op may I ask if you would be ok with your wife having sex with another man , behind your back?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

With all due respect OP, this is just your side of the story. Your bersion of your life. I'm sure your wife would probably be under the illusion of things being all good and rosey.

These threads never make me feel sympathy for the OP, they make me feel that yet another cheating spouse is trying to justify their reasons for cheating. I don't want to know why you cheat, it should be your burden to keep because you CHOOSE to cheat.

And i'm sure if your wife saw your post she would be mortified and embarrassed that you've discussed her (however vaguely) on a swinging site where you cheat on her.

Somethings are just best left to yourself.

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By *orkie321bWoman over a year ago

Nottingham

OP a very interesting thread.

One thing I do struggle to understand is how you can put an otherwise perfect marriage at risk just for a shag.

No matter how discreet and careful you are there is always a risk that your wife could find out. Not everyone on here is a discreet as you and there is a possibility you could meet a bunny boiler who tracks you down and makes trouble for you.

If I cared about someone as much as it seems you do i would do anything to keep them from getting hurt. If that meant making a few sacrifices myself then I would feel it was worth it. I couldn't take the risk of doing something that would devastate the person I love if they found out.

I don't knowingly meet attached people who are playing alone without the knowledge and consent of their partner. Not because I am particularly judgemental about what they are doing, I just don't want any potential fallout if their partner does find out.

It's your decision and your marriage so none of my business really the reasons why. I just hope you are prepared for the consequences if it does all go tits up.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

"With all due respect OP, this is just your side of the story. Your bersion of your life. I'm sure your wife would probably be under the illusion of things being all good and rosey.

And i'm sure if your wife saw your post she would be mortified and embarrassed that you've discussed her (however vaguely) on a swinging site where you cheat on her.

Somethings are just best left to yourself."

Me neither.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thank you all for your feedback. I’m going to leave the thread now. It was one story out of thousands. I know most will not agree with my actions, and I accept this.

I am not intending to snub anyone by not replying, and thank you in advance for replying to the thread. "

We ALL have stories

Some of us dont feel the need to broadcast our personal business to the world.

Maybe chat to your mates?

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By *SAchickWoman over a year ago

Hillside desolate

"With all due respect OP, this is just your side of the story. Your bersion of your life. I'm sure your wife would probably be under the illusion of things being all good and rosey.

And i'm sure if your wife saw your post she would be mortified and embarrassed that you've discussed her (however vaguely) on a swinging site where you cheat on her.

Somethings are just best left to yourself."

You saved me typing

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By *eesideMan over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

1) wots rong with option A and B and staying fathfall ?

Ps I'm a 30 year old virgin and no how frustrating going with out is. !! In fact my frustrations are probably hiyer as i don't no wot I'm missing and is probably hitend with emajnashoun and gess work.

2) Wear is opshoun F you talk to your misses and find out wots rong ?

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By *uriousCouple999Couple over a year ago

edinburgh

"With all due respect OP, this is just your side of the story. Your bersion of your life. I'm sure your wife would probably be under the illusion of things being all good and rosey.

And i'm sure if your wife saw your post she would be mortified and embarrassed that you've discussed her (however vaguely) on a swinging site where you cheat on her.

Somethings are just best left to yourself."

I couldn't agree anymore with this post

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By *ust Us TogetherCouple over a year ago

Newport

When she finds out and is hurt and destroyed, then decide if the cheating sex was worth it.....

When she takes you to the cleaners and you are in your bedsit all alone contemplating all you have lost, decide then if cheating on her was a good idea.

Your rosy marriage, as you now are portraying it, is based on lies and deceit. Let her go, if you cannot work it out, while she is young enough to start again.

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By *opsy RogersWoman over a year ago

London

"Thank you all for your feedback. I’m going to leave the thread now. It was one story out of thousands. I know most will not agree with my actions, and I accept this.

I am not intending to snub anyone by not replying, and thank you in advance for replying to the thread. "

Didn’t quite go the way you wanted it to, did it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm glad I'm not as "happy" as you claim to be.

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

"Thank you all for your feedback. I’m going to leave the thread now. It was one story out of thousands. I know most will not agree with my actions, and I accept this.

I am not intending to snub anyone by not replying, and thank you in advance for replying to the thread.

Didn’t quite go the way you wanted it to, did it."

Far from it, if you read the original post the response is exactly as I expected!

My goal, stated early, was not to gain empathy or sympathy and I knew most would be very anti.

I take in board all that everyone has said. It’s nothing that hasn’t been covered before on here (from a forum search) and other sites I’ve been on.

The thread is what it is. It’s one man’s story / perspective. Most people are vehemently in disagreement. I accept and respect that.

But it’s my story. I said in the original post it’s wrong and I feel guilt. It’s a perspective, that some may understand, and others won’t.

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By *gnitemybodyWoman over a year ago

Onestepoutofthedoor

It's a shame you both can't swing together,rather than sitting across from each at the dinner table you thinking 'when can I next slip away from her to have sex with a stranger and her thinking 'when can I next slip away from him to have sex with a stranger'.

At time's I'm glad I'm single.

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By *ucy LewdWoman over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

If I had committed to be monogamous then I would never break that trust going forward. I couldn't lie over something so important to someone I'm supposed to care about.

But when I found myself in the same situation as the original post I asked my partner for an open relationship and they said no. I knew I couldn't continue going on without any sex, so I said goodbye to the relationship. It was the only way, as far as I was concerned.

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple over a year ago

London

"Thank you all for your feedback. I’m going to leave the thread now. It was one story out of thousands. I know most will not agree with my actions, and I accept this.

I am not intending to snub anyone by not replying, and thank you in advance for replying to the thread.

Didn’t quite go the way you wanted it to, did it.

Far from it, if you read the original post the response is exactly as I expected!

My goal, stated early, was not to gain empathy or sympathy and I knew most would be very anti.

I take in board all that everyone has said. It’s nothing that hasn’t been covered before on here (from a forum search) and other sites I’ve been on.

The thread is what it is. It’s one man’s story / perspective. Most people are vehemently in disagreement. I accept and respect that.

But it’s my story. I said in the original post it’s wrong and I feel guilt. It’s a perspective, that some may understand, and others won’t. "

Another genuine question. Did you think about telling your wife that you need sex and proposing you have extra marital sex that does not threaten the marriage?

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By *ucy LewdWoman over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

BTW - she almost certainly already knows. Women aren't as stupid as some men seem to think.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Thank you all for your feedback. I’m going to leave the thread now. It was one story out of thousands. I know most will not agree with my actions, and I accept this.

I am not intending to snub anyone by not replying, and thank you in advance for replying to the thread.

Didn’t quite go the way you wanted it to, did it.

Far from it, if you read the original post the response is exactly as I expected!

My goal, stated early, was not to gain empathy or sympathy and I knew most would be very anti.

I take in board all that everyone has said. It’s nothing that hasn’t been covered before on here (from a forum search) and other sites I’ve been on.

The thread is what it is. It’s one man’s story / perspective. Most people are vehemently in disagreement. I accept and respect that.

But it’s my story. I said in the original post it’s wrong and I feel guilt. It’s a perspective, that some may understand, and others won’t. "

The thing is, there are loads of threads like this where people feel the need to justify their cheating. And presenting themselves as some sort of good guy for not destroying their happiness. The need to share and seek approval with strangers on a forum is lost on me and I find it a little nauseating. If you cheat, then cheat, just get on with it, quietly and without the drama of posts like this

There is a recurring theme on the forums as to why women cheats are viewed so differently to male cheats and I honestly think that the answer is, in part at least because in all the years I;ve been on the forums I can honestly never recall a woman posting a thread like this

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By *pider-WomanWoman over a year ago

Exeter, Bristol, Plymouth, Truro

"I don't get why you felt you needed to put this story up. Just go about your cheating without the song and dance. The people who may meet you certainly couldn't care less about the reasons.

Genuine question. How would you feel if you found out she was secretly having sex with others

Devasted and I know how hypocritical that seems. "

Never do to another something you wouldn't like done to yourself. Treat people how you wish to be treated with honesty, integrity and the truth for me is the only way. Never mine someone you proclaim to love.

What you are doing is unforgivable and its only a matter of time.

Sorry but thats just my option.

All the best

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I feel for people who get into relationships only to find the sex has completely changed. I remember reading a story published online of a woman who was very sexual. She met her partner, had tons of sex, fell in love, then when they married he switched off. He told her he was never really into sex, he was more asexual than anything else. He had sex with her because he thought that's what men were supposed to do and he thought once they were married it would stop. She was devastated. They divorced.

However, I just don't think that's a reason to cheat on someone. Personally. If things changed that drastically with Marc, I would probably be bitter. I doubt our relationship would be as special as it is if I was bitter or resorted to cheating on him. That's my decision to make.

OP, you made your decision. It doesn't matter if I "understand" it or if I agree with it. It simply doesn't matter what any of us think. You've thought it through and decided. I don't much care about people cheating beyond the fact that I don't want to meet them for sex. And just as it's your choice to cheat, for your own reasons, it's other's choice to meet you or not, for their own reasons.

I do often wonder in cases like this, though...I wonder why the person changed. I wonder what happened to make their sex drive so different. I wonder how the cheating person would feel if their partner's sex drive was low because they were getting their sex elsewhere. If their partner loved them, loves their relationship, had the best friend they'd ever known, but just wasn't into them sexually anymore. I wonder how the cheating partner would feel about that. And if they say it would destroy them, then I do wonder how they can justify what they do to their partner. But then, that's between them, not me. So....yeah. I find the thread in poor taste, I suppose.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

"If I had committed to be monogamous then I would never break that trust going forward. I couldn't lie over something so important to someone I'm supposed to care about.

To me, that is the correct way to deal with the situation.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Your right, it's very long.

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By *amissCouple over a year ago

chelmsford

"Your right, it's very long.

Haha!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

It's the same reason 8 out of 10 guys cheat I reckon, no sex at home.

I was with my ex 9 years and we fucked just as much at the end as we did in the beginning and that's a lot.

Even as a single parent now with two jobs and a shit load of after school classes to take her to and keeping avhouse clean, I could still put a shift in at least once a week so I can't understand how some women have these perfectly good handsome big dicked husbands and boyfriends just laying about the place and they ain't fucking them, seems like such a waste of a man.

When/if I get a boyfriend he'd be having an affair to have some normality, please can you nag me and let me sit in my chair watching telly cos my wife keeps sucking my dick when I sleep and making me fuck her all the time.

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By *ax1971Man over a year ago

St helens

WOW.... for a swinging site so judgemental we can't go round putting people down just because we don't agree with there ways. There's things on here i don't understand or not for me but i just pass it by because it's not my place to judge on a swingers site. ..

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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

Thank you all for your replies.

I only joined a week ago and in that time there have been quite a few anti-cheat threads and a number of comments on why do people do it.

This thread was meant to be one journey. As stated at the outset not to justify or excuse the behaviour. And I expected most to disagree.

The public responses have been very fair.

The private ones have been mostly supportive.

But I’ve also had a couple of hateful threatening ones. So I will leave the site, I didn’t join for that.

It may look like I’m running away from criticism.

I’m leaving as threats about tracing IPs and informing my wife are not what this anonymous thread was about.

Have a great Xmas. Peace x

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By *ax1971Man over a year ago

St helens

Well done to the key board warriors. op you need a thick skin on here. Take care pal

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By *icecouple561Couple over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex

In light of the ops last post I'm going to close this.

It's a shame that he didn't report the threatening posts and I would say to anyone who sent them that it is against site rules to threaten or abuse other members.

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