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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)" Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? " Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Don't see where what she is wearing has a bearing on her opinion of a transvestite ? | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her." That's not what AKA means | |||
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"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing." Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol | |||
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"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing. Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol" But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs? | |||
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"But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?" Youll have to grab the crutch area and find out ! P.S. I'm all woman xx | |||
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"But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs? Youll have to grab the crutch area and find out ! P.S. I'm all woman xx " Are you inviting me to grab your crotch area? | |||
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"Are you inviting me to grab your crotch area? " Don't think even your arms are long enough to stretch from Doncaster to Exeter lol ........nice bum though needs fingernail marks ! x | |||
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"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing. Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?" no , same as men who wear kilts arnt tvs lol | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her. That's not what AKA means" AKA also known as. She's also known as a slag by her friends. | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? Actually overwhelmingly flirtatious was my choice of phrase. Slag was what her friends call her. That's not what AKA means AKA also known as. She's also known as a slag by her friends." she sounds like a lovely person to know | |||
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"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing. Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?no , same as men who wear kilts arnt tvs lol" I'm still no closer to understanding what trousers have to do with | |||
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"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing. Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?no , same as men who wear kilts arnt tvs lol I'm still no closer to understanding what trousers have to do with " Donald lost a pair according to a song | |||
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" No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values" Every single word ever used is 'made up'. And it is used to describe those who demonstrate hate and discrimination towards trans people. Not merely those who live 'traditionally'. | |||
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" No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values Every single word ever used is 'made up'. And it is used to describe those who demonstrate hate and discrimination towards trans people. Not merely those who live 'traditionally'. " Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk.... I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority | |||
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" No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values Every single word ever used is 'made up'. And it is used to describe those who demonstrate hate and discrimination towards trans people. Not merely those who live 'traditionally'. Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk.... I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority" Surely,in this story,the lady who made the 'digusting' comment could be said to be the hate filled bigot,hardly decent behaviour. Also,a phobia being an irrational fear,she could be said to be phobic if she has no reason or rationality behind her disgust. | |||
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"It's a difficult question to answer totally honestly, for fear of upsetting the people who publicly take the moral high ground, many of whom will have an entirely different view in private. I guess the issue is actually voicing your own opinion, especially if it does not conform to the current trend of being politically correct. People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples) She is entirely entitled to her own viewpoint. But the fact is that she must keep it to herself. " You're allowed to say whatever you want. People are then allowed in response to say whatever they want. Demanding to be allowed to say that you think gay/trans/whoever people are wrong and that no one is then allowed to criticise your opinions isn't how life, or free speech, works. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Don't see the correlation. | |||
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"A minority seek to rob the world of common sense...." Care to explain what you mean by that? | |||
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"It's a difficult question to answer totally honestly, for fear of upsetting the people who publicly take the moral high ground, many of whom will have an entirely different view in private. I guess the issue is actually voicing your own opinion, especially if it does not conform to the current trend of being politically correct. People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples) She is entirely entitled to her own viewpoint. But the fact is that she must keep it to herself. You're allowed to say whatever you want. People are then allowed in response to say whatever they want. Demanding to be allowed to say that you think gay/trans/whoever people are wrong and that no one is then allowed to criticise your opinions isn't how life, or free speech, works. " She didn't say it was wrong though, she said it was disguisting. Which is what the majority of the population think about swinging. That's their opinion, not a hate crime. | |||
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"It's a difficult question to answer totally honestly, for fear of upsetting the people who publicly take the moral high ground, many of whom will have an entirely different view in private. I guess the issue is actually voicing your own opinion, especially if it does not conform to the current trend of being politically correct. People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples) She is entirely entitled to her own viewpoint. But the fact is that she must keep it to herself. You're allowed to say whatever you want. People are then allowed in response to say whatever they want. Demanding to be allowed to say that you think gay/trans/whoever people are wrong and that no one is then allowed to criticise your opinions isn't how life, or free speech, works. She didn't say it was wrong though, she said it was disguisting. Which is what the majority of the population think about swinging. That's their opinion, not a hate crime. " You know, debates go better if your responses line up with what you're quoting. You're not replying to me saying 'that's a hate crime!' (because I didn't say it was). You're replying to my description of why it's not correct to say 'people aren't allowed to say they don't like certain groups'. | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? " Together we could prove or disprove the theory.. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " No. You've confused two issues. | |||
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"There are many misconceptions, so allow me to clarify a few. Cisgender 101 - Understanding Cisgenderism A cisgender person is someone who believes their gender identity matches the one they were assigned at birth. They were born like this and did not choose it. Although you may not realise it, cisgender people are all around us. It is often very hard to tell if someone is cisgender at first glance. Many cisgender people invest much time and energy to ensure they "pass" or appear as their assigned gender. Some scientists believe that cisgenderism is a result of a fault in the brain of cisgender people, which prevents them identifying as anything other than the gender they were assigned at birth. Nobody is sure what causes cisgenderism: genetics, hormones, or reinforcement of gender stereotypes as a child, but there is no known cure. Cisgender people often suffer from "body dysmorphia" - a feeling of distress or extreme dislike for their bodies - and they often take medicine, or undergo surgery so that their bodies more closely match their gender identities. Cisgender people aren't always straight - many cisgender people identify as gay, lesbian, or even bisexual! Cisgender people can often be upset if you get their pronouns wrong. If you aren't sure, remember it's ok to ask. Don't refer to them as "a cisgender," "a cis," or even as "cis scum." The correct term is a "cisgender person," or even just "person." Don't ask them about their genitals, or if they've had surgery. While some cisgender people are happy to talk about their bodies, most will consider it rude. It's not a phase. Although it may be hard for you to understand, most cisgender people do not grow out of being cis. Be patient and accept that they did not choose to be cisgendered. Try to be supportive. Coming out as a cisgender person can be hard and can force people to look at themselves in a different light. Keep an open mind! Although the news media often tries to reinforce certain stereotypes, cisgender people come in all shapes and sizes. Some cisgender people refer to non-cis people as "trans." Although it is sometimes used in anger, "trans" is not an insult and is used to differentiate between cisgender and normal people. Remember, many cisgender people do live happy, productive lives! Here are just a few famous cisgender people: Ainsley Harriot - TV Chef Monica Lewinsky - Former aide to Bill Clinton Elijah Blue Allman - Musician and son of Cher Catherine the Great - Queen of Russia Angela Merkel - German Chancellor Laszio Biro - Inventor of the ballpoint pen You may use the space below to express your ire and disgust at being labelled cisgender." So you're saying one can take the piss yet stay dry. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. I reckon she was jealous as your makeup was better than hers! She saw you as a threat! Your too fabulous for her! " | |||
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"If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " I like your logic | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Surely we should all be in skirts or dresses... From the earliest human we were all wearing skirts, kilts, togas, wraps etc made of fur, reeds,cottons, long before trousers were invented... | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Life's to short, Don't worry, Be happy | |||
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"Im confused as to what exactly this thread is about ..." If you are a woman and you find cross dressers disgusting then you shouldn't wear trousers | |||
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"I'm rather fond of TVs just don't get to meet many where I'm from,I got called disgusting by a woman because on my profile had me and a TVs pics on there" You already said | |||
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"Doesn't matter what you do or who you are, someone will be disgusted...just do what you want and crack on and enjoy yourself. Who cares who likes it or doesn't? " | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? " makes me one too then | |||
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"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing." Thats what I thought since I wear trousers for work and day to day | |||
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"Doesn't matter what you do or who you are, someone will be disgusted...just do what you want and crack on and enjoy yourself. Who cares who likes it or doesn't? " | |||
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"People are no longer allowed to say they don't like gays, lesbians, fatties, gingers or be allowed to condone abortion (these are just examples)" First off, surely you mean 'allowed to CONDEMN abortion'? Second, you're still allowed to say that you don't like LGBT, fatties, gingers etc...the difference is that, in contrast to fifty years ago, people like THIS fat bi guy are going to start asking HOW you arrived at that particular opinion... | |||
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"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk.... I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority" On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values." So listen up. Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY. For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people. To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools. In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.' What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings. As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism. | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? " Oh you trollop! | |||
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"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting. Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)" Maybe she seen you as a threat | |||
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"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk.... I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values." So listen up. Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY. For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people. To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools. In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.' What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings. As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism." | |||
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" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. " Why would you be a drain on the NHS? Are you an obese cigarette smoker? A reckless driver? | |||
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" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. " Funny how people assume. | |||
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" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. Funny how people assume. " Fucking hell those hot pants!!!!!! xx | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx" Maybe some lack the confidence to go into shops and try clothes on,then end up shopping on E Bay with no one to give them guidance. Maybe also lacking the confidence to ask for make up advice in stores. There's no real need for anyone to be so shy,this is the 21st century,clothes and make up assistants would be only too glad to help | |||
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" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. Funny how people assume. " Even if a TS woman was getting all her help from the NHS, do people know how much HRT costs? I do,it's not much. A drop in the ocean if we are talking about dwindling NHS resources,hardly a drain. If a depressed,suicidal,unemployable person is transformed into a healthy,well adjusted,hard working taxpayer,then it is money well spent,isn't it? There may be those who say that psychiatric help is what is needed. Talk about a drain on resources.Do you know how much psych Drs charge? I do,it's a flippin' lot.They don't guarantee results and they are never likely to say 'you're cured'.That would be like turkeys voting for xmas. If people feel that the most cost effective treatment should be given,at least a surgeon can offer decisive,tangible results. | |||
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" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. Funny how people assume. Even if a TS woman was getting all her help from the NHS, do people know how much HRT costs? I do,it's not much. A drop in the ocean if we are talking about dwindling NHS resources,hardly a drain. If a depressed,suicidal,unemployable person is transformed into a healthy,well adjusted,hard working taxpayer,then it is money well spent,isn't it? There may be those who say that psychiatric help is what is needed. Talk about a drain on resources.Do you know how much psych Drs charge? I do,it's a flippin' lot.They don't guarantee results and they are never likely to say 'you're cured'.That would be like turkeys voting for xmas. If people feel that the most cost effective treatment should be given,at least a surgeon can offer decisive,tangible results." I’m sure many of us come across people who speak with authority without any actual knowledge. The girl who said she was a drain on the nhs, to my knowledge, doesn’t seem to be transitioning and so costs the nhs nothing. Personally I am transitioning and I pay for my hrt, blood tests, consultations and laser myself. So I cost the nhs nothing. As you say; giving people the help they seek is often is the less expensive option. | |||
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" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. Funny how people assume. Fucking hell those hot pants!!!!!! xx" Lol. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " I can't apologise for her but all the same sorry you had hurtful words. That said your topic is a bit OTT. It's the view of just one person. | |||
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" ..i was recently told by a woman on this site that i was a drain on the NHS..theres some dumbfucks that frequent these forums and thats a fact .. Why would you be a drain on the NHS? Are you an obese cigarette smoker? A reckless driver? " ive no idea ..u better ask her lol no i hate smoking and im slim and super fit ... | |||
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"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting. Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)" So all flirtatious women are "Slags" .. not sure whose worse? | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx" well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. | |||
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"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting. Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)" I hate the word slag. Everyone’s going to hate someone, not much we can do about it. Spread happiness is all you can do | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx" Did their grandmothers with poor eyesight, teach them makeup skills and loan a few clothes? | |||
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"I've always thought of trousers as a universal item of clothing. Unless they are shorter then they are collottes any shorter and they would be shorts ! lol But I don't understand, are all women who wear trousers TVs?" women are allowed to wear what they want...without fear of ridicule...many prefer " mens clothes" for different reasons..no one gives a fuck when they go shopping in the mens dept.if your a guy and u shop in the womans section u will often get odd looks ..once i was even told the mens clothes were upstairs .. my ex seemed to prefer non feminine clothes .. which was sad really as she always looked so lovely when she wore a nice dress or skirt . | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .." One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. | |||
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"Your ass looks *nearly* as good as mine... " thanks Clem. Nearly is good enuf for me | |||
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"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk.... I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values." So listen up. Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY. For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people. To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools. In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.' What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings. As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism. " Well said. It's the people who stand up and speak out for the LGBT community who help to make this world a safer place. To call someone out for using words like 'disgusting' when referring to TVs/TSs can only be a good thing. Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance. | |||
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"No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values Its an abusive term designed to demonise decent folk.... I am a Tran and find it the hallmark of bigots and haters whom seek to force their minority views onto the majority On another thread, you claimed that there is "no such thing as Homophobia," and that it's "just a made up word to demonise normal thinking people with traditional values." So listen up. Just because a certain value is TRADITIONAL, that does not mean that it is RIGHT. The longevity of a belief is NOT proof of its MORALITY. For example, slavery, human sacrifice and child marriage were/are 'traditions' which lasted for thousands of years, but they caused (and still cause) untold suffering to millions of people. To use another example, the total abolition of corporal punishment in UK schools was only achieved in 2003, when it was banned in Northern Irish private schools. In any case, when we call people out for using 'homophobic' or 'transphobic' speech, we are NOT seeking to 'demonise' them or portray them as 'monsters.' What we are trying to do is EDUCATE them and illustrate that the views which they profess are based on fear, ignorance, lies and/or misunderstandings. As you say, the vast majority of people who live by 'traditional values' are DECENT FOLK. However, that does not mean that we should not subject their 'values' to criticism. Well said. It's the people who stand up and speak out for the LGBT community who help to make this world a safer place. To call someone out for using words like 'disgusting' when referring to TVs/TSs can only be a good thing. Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance. " | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " So can you explain what her wearing trousers has to do with....well anything She has her opinion, you might not like it, however i bet you have veiws other people might find disgusting, which leads to a bigger question Why do you care what some random woman thinks? | |||
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"I've seen so many transvestites on here and spoke to a few as well am not offended by any of it People should able to be who they want to be People sometimes can't understand things " Forgot to add some of them are stunning as well | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..I absolutely agree. Forgive me but I'm talking 50clock shadow bright blue eyeshadow open toe shoes and tights. Is that the look planned? T's girls I c here are amazingly beautiful One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. " | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman ..I absolutely agree. Forgive me but I'm talking 50clock shadow bright blue eyeshadow open toe shoes and tights. Is that the look planned? T's girls I c here are amazingly beautiful One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. " | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Yes I think your right, you should have told her to get her trousers off! In reality though why did she think they were disgusting? Did she think TVs don’t wash? | |||
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"May have been jealous of what you were wearing. " Maybe jealous because you looked better than her and more of a woman. | |||
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"She didn't have any explanation just that she finds the thought of a man in women's clothing disgusting. Not the shaved head pierced face type either. Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!)" Right ! | |||
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"Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance. " Precisely...it's why I get annoyed at people who only preach about 'the right to freedom of speech' when they're called out for using bigoted/insulting/abusive language. Do they have a right to freedom of speech? Yes Do they have a right to say offensive things? Yes Do they have a right to expect people to ignore them or refrain from criticism of their views? NO | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. " Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear..." i have seen these guys/girls at parties and in clubs , but never in the street in daylight hours ... tbh if they have the balls to walk around like that then good luck to them ... | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear..." I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear..." Oi lurvs my Vivienne Westwood velvet bell bottoms me guv. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " . Why cant people respect each others choices eveyone is different no one on this earth is the same. as long as no harm , wrong doing or evil is comited then people should focus on them self and what they are doing different in their life that others may find different and ""dissgusting"" be who you want to be. you are not disgusting their veiws are | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? . Why cant people respect each others choices eveyone is different no one on this earth is the same. as long as no harm , wrong doing or evil is comited then people should focus on them self and what they are doing different in their life that others may find different and ""dissgusting"" be who you want to be. you are not disgusting their veiws are " . Thank you , now I can find someone to help satisfy my Pingu fetish, Good point though | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? . Why cant people respect each others choices eveyone is different no one on this earth is the same. as long as no harm , wrong doing or evil is comited then people should focus on them self and what they are doing different in their life that others may find different and ""dissgusting"" be who you want to be. you are not disgusting their veiws are . Thank you , now I can find someone to help satisfy my Pingu fetish, Good point though " O ok I take it all back pingu is just to far wtf his squeek is themost anoying thing i remember as a child | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. " The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves.. We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves.. We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. " There you go again. Lol. I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know. You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys. No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out. I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite. | |||
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" Actually fairly attractive though a bit overwhelmingly flirtatious. (Aka a slag!) Omg I flirt quite a lot with some guys on here - am I a slag? " God I hope so,no offence | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves.. We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. There you go again. Lol. I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know. You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys. No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out. I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite. " This | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves.. We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. There you go again. Lol. I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know. You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys. No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out. I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite. This " And again | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves.. We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. There you go again. Lol. I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know. You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys. No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out. I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite. This And again " this | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Trousers aren’t solely male clothing, women have been wearing trousers a lot of years. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? No such thing as transphobic , its a made up word generated to Demonise the vast bulk of this planets population whom live by traditional values" yes there is such a word hence we have laws in this country | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves.. We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. There you go again. Lol. I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know. You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys. No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out. I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite. This And again this " This | |||
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"I too live full time as a tgirl The only real sign of true femininity ,..... Have you stumbled to the shop hungover on a Sunday morning in tshirt and jeans and mismatched underwear (bra must be that dirty grey from multiple mixed washes colour ) whilst muttering how much you hate everyone and declaring vodka and prosecco are evil. If not pfft your a fantasist who cracks off to the clog adverts in the back of the paper. (Though this can be fun)." hilarious As a frugal girl I’ve died my greying undies purple. A whole new lease of life | |||
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"Question... genuine so please don't be offended... The T's women on here are absolutely stunning.. why do most tVS wear shocking make up and clothes from grannies closet?? SOME Not ALL. xx well u could say the same about lotsa real woman .. One of the reasons why trans females and TVs get noticed when out and about is because we make an effort with how we look. Often we try too hard and so stand out against a background of cis females in jeans and tee shirts. Middle aged six foot guys dressing in bright tight fitting tops, mini skirts and six inch heels gad the streets will always draw attention... Has nothing to do with looking sexy or convincing females, they stand out like a sore thumb as a middle aged guys dressed in a young females clothes of yesteryear... I never understood why you’re so anti trans. You just seem to think we’re all just men. Trannies and fakes, as you insist on calling everyone. Trans girls don’t tend to totter about on the streets in heels and shirt skirts. The problem with Closet Transvestites like yourself is you come onto websites such as this and spread a lot of misinformation concerning the Trans community with a view to draw attention to yourselves.. We real time Trans that have been around a long time only seek from time to time to correct the misinformation and the fantasizing.. There you go again. Lol. I’m transitioning. Under the doc. Name changed. All that jazz. As you well know. You describe yourself as a tranny and dress up because it turns you on as you play with other trannys. No point in continuing to pretend I’m a fake who’s wanking in their bedroom. My veris and pics show I venture out. I’m living my life as a transitioning female not a transvestite. " As usual your just seeking to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others... | |||
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"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong... They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner... What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us... As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech..." not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead | |||
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"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong... They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner..." No-one is denying that they have that right, but WE have the right to criticise their views. "What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us..." No-one is disputing their right to hold a different view...we're simply subjecting their views to criticism and demonstrating that said views are born of ignorance and misunderstanding... "the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech..." Interesting, isn't it, that people seem to invoke 'freedom of conscience and speech' only as a means to deflect criticism, or to deny other people the right to criticise their views... | |||
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"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong... They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner... What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us... As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead " You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being nasty... | |||
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"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong... They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner... What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us... As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being nasty... " of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are | |||
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"Well said. It's the people who stand up and speak out for the LGBT community who help to make this world a safer place. To call someone out for using words like 'disgusting' when referring to TVs/TSs can only be a good thing. Tolerance of intolerance is funnily enough the end of tolerance. " Why do we teach tolerance though? I would rather be ignored than tolerated, especially when it is regarding something I do that affects nobody else but me and the people who willingly participate in some of these things with me. The people that I tolerate are the ones that think airing their views about these things in a way that could have a negative effect on me (if I cared enough about the opinions that insignificant people may have on me) whether it is what I am wearing, my hair colour or my sexuality for example. These people need to ignore the things others do, if they will never affect them in a harmful way and then tolerance would not be needed and we could all get on with our lives and be who we are....and be happier, surely?! | |||
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"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong... They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner... What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us... As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being nasty... of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are " The Apostle Paul said his own opinion of himself was valueless... He also gave the finest paragraph on Love in history,go read it in First Corinthians... | |||
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"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong... They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner... What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us... As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being nasty... of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are The Apostle Paul said his own opinion of himself was valueless... He also gave the finest paragraph on Love in history,go read it in First Corinthians..." How about you don’t start trying to quote religious stuff all over again. It’s not relevant. It seems many of us have a very different view of things than you. The difference is we don’t post so aggressively. Signing your posts as “nasty” is very honest of you though. | |||
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"The vast bulk of this Island kingdom tolerate Trans, but consider it wrong... They have a lawfull right to express their views in a civil manner... What we have to do is accept and tolerate them and respect their right to have a different view to us... As revealed in this thread the usual allegedly Trans suspects have shown their bigotry and intolerance towards the Hetrosexual community and anybody that would grant them the right to freedom of conscience and speech... not sure why you have to be so nasty about people you don’t know .i feel it’s just attention seeking . You can be who ever you want to be that is your Choice . But before you start running others down for being who they where born to be you need to get your facts right . We all came into the world to love one and other what ever . And that’s what we should do we are a long time dead You need to learn and accept that other people have different outlooks and opinions to you and your little clique and when these people are expressing their views they are not being nasty... of course people have different outlooks and opinions and so they should other wise we will be living in a very bored world . But you done it again I am not in a little clique nor would I want to be I am my own person . And I love everyone no matter what there opinions are The Apostle Paul said his own opinion of himself was valueless... He also gave the finest paragraph on Love in history,go read it in First Corinthians... How about you don’t start trying to quote religious stuff all over again. It’s not relevant. It seems many of us have a very different view of things than you. The difference is we don’t post so aggressively. Signing your posts as “nasty” is very honest of you though. " You just view reality as an enemy...Seems when long time Trans that walk the walk speak on these forums to correct fallacies and fantasies so that those outside our community might not be fed misinformation, nor the younger vunerable trans just learning... We are subjected to the cliques tirades... I am not the only one, nor will I be the last.. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Trousers aren't male clothing in and of themselves though, no more than a kilt is a woman's skirt. I don't personally find transvesites disgusting but I am also however, not attracted to them. To each their own at the end of the day though. | |||
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"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ... Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines... However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum..... Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this" Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that. You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt. Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans? | |||
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"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ... Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines... However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum..... Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that. You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt. Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans? " I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran... I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route. You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people... Its reality that counts | |||
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"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ... Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines... However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum..... Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that. You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt. Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans? I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran... I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route. You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people... Its reality that counts " It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out. I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world. | |||
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"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ... Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines... However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum..... Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that. You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt. Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans? I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran... I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route. You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people... Its reality that counts It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out. I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world. " So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid | |||
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"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ... Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines... However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum..... Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that. You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt. Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans? I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran... I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route. You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people... Its reality that counts It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out. I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world. So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid" We agree on something!!!! She does indeed. The doc was surprised to hear we are still so strong as so many relationships fall by the wayside when people transition. I count myself as very lucky. | |||
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"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ... Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines... However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum..... Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that. You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt. Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans? I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran... I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route. You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people... Its reality that counts It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out. I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world. So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid We agree on something!!!! She does indeed. The doc was surprised to hear we are still so strong as so many relationships fall by the wayside when people transition. I count myself as very lucky. " You have had your moment in the limelight tonite, so you can now finish off the bottle of wine and have sweet dreams... | |||
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"The path you allegedly are taking I took a long time ago, I have taken hormones, developed small breasts, also had varied cosmetic procedures, electrolysis...etc I have never obtained any sexual gratification from wearing feminine attire as you claim, nor do I enjoy sex with Trans ... Am naturaly dubious of your public claims as Transitioning is a long drawn out process and you have made too many public statements that contradict and also conflict with NHS guidelines... However I have never called you a Fake, my personal view is that you are a married man that dresses occasionally in womens clothes,that occasinaly attends certain safe venues and has desires to progress further into the Tran spectrum..... Its a shame that for simply having a different outlook to yours that you as usual have sought to draw attention to yourself at the expense of others and enlisting your cronies to support you in this Well I’ve seen the pics you post of you with transvestites so I know you’re lying about that. You clearly know little about transitioning. Self medicating is dangerous; I’d recommend you stop and get yourself referred to a gic. You’re risking kidney failure and dvt. Is the underground considered a safe venue for trans? I do not have a fear of other Trans and my views are based on many years of real time experience as a Tran... I am well aquaint with NHS guidelines, having ventured down that route. You just continue your attention seeking stunts on a swingers forum, obtain mock sympathy and the false praise of cyber people... Its reality that counts It is indeed. Hence why I was the one playing the music as the dj New Year’s Eve in my local pub and why my local builders merchants have surprised even me by being so accepting of me since I came out. I have nothing to prove to you Mara. Enjoy your fantasy world. So you say...It must be difficult for your wife to put up with your attention seeking antics....She deserves a medal the size of a dustbin lid We agree on something!!!! She does indeed. The doc was surprised to hear we are still so strong as so many relationships fall by the wayside when people transition. I count myself as very lucky. You have had your moment in the limelight tonite, so you can now finish off the bottle of wine and have sweet dreams..." More assumptions | |||
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"Just a bit of a correction to something I read on this thread. Long term medication,specifically HRT can have detrimental effects on the liver rather than the kidneys. (there may be possible kidney damage too but it's the risk to the liver that you really want to be watching out for.)" I meant liver. I did read the leaflet but then just slapped the patch on my ass and got on with my day. | |||
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"Just a bit of a correction to something I read on this thread. Long term medication,specifically HRT can have detrimental effects on the liver rather than the kidneys. (there may be possible kidney damage too but it's the risk to the liver that you really want to be watching out for.) I meant liver. I did read the leaflet but then just slapped the patch on my ass and got on with my day. " Apparently the patches are less risky than pills but,they do tend to attract dirt under and around the edges which is a bugger to clean off. You just can't blummin' win. | |||
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"Just a bit of a correction to something I read on this thread. Long term medication,specifically HRT can have detrimental effects on the liver rather than the kidneys. (there may be possible kidney damage too but it's the risk to the liver that you really want to be watching out for.) I meant liver. I did read the leaflet but then just slapped the patch on my ass and got on with my day. Apparently the patches are less risky than pills but,they do tend to attract dirt under and around the edges which is a bugger to clean off. You just can't blummin' win. " Talcum powder is good for stopping sticky edges getting grubby. Top tip | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " To be fair, some are. Not because of the clothes they wear, but some of them eat marmite, some think Mrs Brown's Boys is funny, so wear leopard print or drink Irn Bru. TVs are people, a lot of people are disgusting. | |||
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"Was recently talking to a woman who was telling me she finds transvestites disgusting. Ok, were all entitled to an opinion. I found it ironic though that she was wearing trousers as she was saying this. I couldn't decide if it was transphobic or sexist. If a woman takes this view, isn't it hypocritical to wear traditional male clothing? " Let her have her opinion as you're probably never gonna change her views. The world is changing and less and less people think like that i.e less people who hate anything which is different to them. I wouldn't call her hypocritical I'd just call her bigoted. | |||
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"Quite a lot of people think that, as is to be expected with things that aren't the norm. This new culture of sticking "phobe" and "ist" on the end of everything in order to play the down-trodden, opressed victim is becoming incredibly tedious. Life is tough, people are mean. That won't change. You're surely not saying that you were unware that anybody held anything but positive views about TV's when you started doing it, are you?" Joking aside, got to laugh at how you defend the right to label people "disgusting" and then in the same post talk about how you yourself dislike being labeled. | |||
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"My wife thinks anything other than bland straight intercourse once a month to shut me up is disgusting. Oral - disgusting, swingers - perverts, etc, etc. So in search of some sexual adventure I’m on fab and get called a ‘cheater’. Ouch!" You have sex with her when you know she doesn't want to?????! | |||
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"My wife thinks anything other than bland straight intercourse once a month to shut me up is disgusting. Oral - disgusting, swingers - perverts, etc, etc. So in search of some sexual adventure I’m on fab and get called a ‘cheater’. Ouch!" Good job the threads nearly ended for you eh | |||
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"My wife thinks anything other than bland straight intercourse once a month to shut me up is disgusting. Oral - disgusting, swingers - perverts, etc, etc. So in search of some sexual adventure I’m on fab and get called a ‘cheater’. Ouch! Good job the threads nearly ended for you eh " | |||
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