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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X

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By *oxy_minxWoman  over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

Don't be silly,and why the hell would you come to that conclusion? That mentality is utter bollocks and wouldn't get anywhere with me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Total tosh

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X"

I sometimes feel the same way mate, I'm always being told that I'm "too nice"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Never too nice

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By *rincess peachWoman  over a year ago

shits creek

Believe me, those that behave in an arsehole way getting nothing but the other side of my block button.

The only thing wrong with being nice is leaving yourself open to be taken advantage of, so remain true to yourself but don't allow yourself to get walked over x

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

If a person is one who is easily seduced by "bad guys" who are usually manipulative etc, then you won't change her mind. Just be you, and if others don't like it, its not your problem.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

You are looking at things the wrong way.

Clearly from your post you think that being decent and nice entitles you to reward.

Try being decent and nice simply because it's the right thing to do and part of how you see yourself. Stop thinking others owe you for being what you want to be.

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By *lmostthereMan  over a year ago

Southampton

I will say this again: it is nice to be nice.

Fin.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Believe me, those that behave in an arsehole way getting nothing but the other side of my block button.

The only thing wrong with being nice is leaving yourself open to be taken advantage of, so remain true to yourself but don't allow yourself to get walked over x"

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By * and BCouple  over a year ago

Durham

Hey be nice and honest. People say they like honesty, well until you are honest then they don't like that. Don't be one of them manipulative lying F##ks and you will be able to hold your head high. We sometimes have a rant like you but hey no, be nice, be yourself. Nasty horrible people will always get their come upance at some point.

Stay positive and lead a fruitful and fulfilled life

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The guys we play with are all nice. But there are plenty of guys who are nice who I wouldn’t play with. Fundamentally I think women want a man who is sexy and knows how to turn them Nice on its own is not enough.

Mrs

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Hey be nice and honest. People say they like honesty, well until you are honest then they don't like that. Don't be one of them manipulative lying F##ks and you will be able to hold your head high. We sometimes have a rant like you but hey no, be nice, be yourself. Nasty horrible people will always get their come upance at some point.

Stay positive and lead a fruitful and fulfilled life"

People don't like honesty.

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By *ilent.KnightMan  over a year ago

Swindon


"You are looking at things the wrong way.

Clearly from your post you think that being decent and nice entitles you to reward.

Try being decent and nice simply because it's the right thing to do and part of how you see yourself. Stop thinking others owe you for being what you want to be. "

this. As soon as anyone says I don’t get what I want because I’m nice, I doubt they’re really nice. Just not as honest as us f*ckers.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We can only be who we are. Anything else will never make us or anyone else happy.

Never change to please others. It doesn't work.

Change the others you connect with to those who accept you as you are.

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By *emini ManMan  over a year ago

There and to the left a bit

I'm confused OP you start your post by saying "I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks" - so why the need for the rant that followed?

If you're doing OK by being nice, then what's the problem? Just keep on being true to yourself as it would appear you already are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wont compromise who I am

Not for no fucker

Not ever

If that means I feel pain, then so be it

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By *egasus NobMan  over a year ago

Wandsworth

You are associating being nice will get you what you want two entirely different spectra to respect, or jackass. we all have to be selfish in some ways to live to survive and reach a high level of self only until then you can truly be selfless. Respect is a given do unto people as you want others to do. If you like or admire something about a person say it but don’t be creepy, be pleasant in saying yes or no with respect of the other person's feelings.

Nice could mean you are not assertive or stand for your belief generally if there is no responsiveness why bother engaging in a conversation. People will like you or dislike you for whatever reason usually only looking at the surface.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I must admit that I tend to agree. I keep getting told that I seem 'too nice' Weird

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There’s a word that springs to mind. Sincerity. That’s what gets you somewhere, women are deceptively good at seeing through facades. So having a rant about it getting you nowhere etc. Just because some people are Very honest, sometimes brutally but even so the fact is you should demonstrate maturity and brush it off.

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

Be a cunt then - see how much further it gets you.

*shrug*

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By *hatYorkLadMan  over a year ago

York

In my experience girls who say you're "too nice" are the ones who thrive on drama. You'll see them moaning on Facebook about how men are shit and how their ex is an arsehole, but they'll keep on going for the same type of blokes. I've wasted time, effort and heartache on girls like that before in the hope that they'd give me a chance (usually after something has happened between us to spark my interest in the first place) and I could make them happy, but they're attracted to absolute bellends and will never change. It's at the point they realise that I'm just a decent guy the "you're too nice" line comes out. Their loss!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You don't have to be one or the other. You can still be nice but just don't let people shit on you. I became a little more selfish in the last 3 years and it's changed my life in general for the better. I'm still nice tho x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will never change my ways just for a meet. I am polite, have manners and believe chivalry is still there and should be used! Yes this is a sex, meet site but everyone should be respected, no arguments. I will carry on as I was taught when I grew up, if I come across as a wimp or soft, tough, that’s for others to make their opinion. I will not change because 1 says I have to.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Total tosh"
Leave me out of this

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Total tosh"

I know him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X"

I hear ya man, feel the same, as the old saying goes nice guys finish last

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire

All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You sound lovely op. You'll go far. .

Remind us again which attitude your going to take?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment."

Erm no. Maybe just being treated as equals on here would be nice. I myself am 'a nice guy', I've been here for months. I've spoken to people on the forums, made myself known. Never acted anything less than a gentleman, I don't send fucking dick pics,send nice polite messages, to varying degrees, but nothing. Yet most I get is the occasional patronising reply from a woman. I'm sure it's great having hundreds of people to choose from as you will, but please do bare in mind there are nice guys out there, just trying too meet someone likeminded, at the amount of disdain we get is honestly morale destroying. We're not all dick pic sending, beef head twats

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So “treat em mean, keep em keen” is total bollocks then?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment."

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So “treat em mean, keep em keen” is total bollocks then? "

Hahahaha. Damned if you do damned if you don't my friend

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here "

I like nice guys with honesty and integrity.

I don't like guys who whinge about not getting sex from women because they've been nice and they expected to get some.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here

I like nice guys with honesty and integrity.

I don't like guys who whinge about not getting sex from women because they've been nice and they expected to get some."

See there is the problem. I can only speak for myself, but I never expect anything (except to see my message has been deleted without being read).

I am a very nice, articulate, educated and successful guy (sorry that was a bit self aggrandising). All I want to do is say hello, talk. If talking goes well then maybe we could meet. I can only apologise for the rest of my gender if they assume they're entitled to any more than that, but please don't tar us all with the same brush

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here

I like nice guys with honesty and integrity.

I don't like guys who whinge about not getting sex from women because they've been nice and they expected to get some.

See there is the problem. I can only speak for myself, but I never expect anything (except to see my message has been deleted without being read).

I am a very nice, articulate, educated and successful guy (sorry that was a bit self aggrandising). All I want to do is say hello, talk. If talking goes well then maybe we could meet. I can only apologise for the rest of my gender if they assume they're entitled to any more than that, but please don't tar us all with the same brush "

Perhaps you should take a few moments away to think about what you've said in this thread.

Because you're coming across as very entitled. Perhaps there are also reasons other than your "niceness" that people are turning you do.

Also - you've been on here two months. Two months! That's no time at all. My old profile it took me about four or five months to get laid one to one on here. Clubs are far easier - if you're genuinely a nice guy then you might come across better at a club.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here

I like nice guys with honesty and integrity.

I don't like guys who whinge about not getting sex from women because they've been nice and they expected to get some.

See there is the problem. I can only speak for myself, but I never expect anything (except to see my message has been deleted without being read).

I am a very nice, articulate, educated and successful guy (sorry that was a bit self aggrandising). All I want to do is say hello, talk. If talking goes well then maybe we could meet. I can only apologise for the rest of my gender if they assume they're entitled to any more than that, but please don't tar us all with the same brush

Perhaps you should take a few moments away to think about what you've said in this thread.

Because you're coming across as very entitled. Perhaps there are also reasons other than your "niceness" that people are turning you do.

Also - you've been on here two months. Two months! That's no time at all. My old profile it took me about four or five months to get laid one to one on here. Clubs are far easier - if you're genuinely a nice guy then you might come across better at a club."

Apologies if I appear that way - I'm really not. And thank you for the advice, I'll certainly consider it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Being rude doesn’t get women into bed, it drives women away. Being ‘nice’ also doesn’t get women into bed, but it doesn’t drive them away either. All being ‘nice’ does is maintain that neutral ground that can be built on. But it is not an aphrodisiac. Those men who use their ‘niceness’ to tempt women into bed are missing a trick. On the swing scene women have sex with men who they find sexy, or who can help them meet there fantasies, or can show them a good time. Women are not looking for a lifelong partner who will be nice and kind to them. So be nice (because the alternative won’t work either) but find another attribute to take it to the next level. Just ‘nice’ is not enough.

Mrs

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By * and M lookingCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"The guys we play with are all nice. But there are plenty of guys who are nice who I wouldn’t play with. Fundamentally I think women want a man who is sexy and knows how to turn them Nice on its own is not enough.

Mrs"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

"

Haha true though

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

"

I don't buy that. If someone lies to me, or is a twat, I'll choose not to see them again.

Give me a guy who keeps his word any day.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

I don't buy that. If someone lies to me, or is a twat, I'll choose not to see them again.

Give me a guy who keeps his word any day."

Hi, how's your day?

Are you ok?

Yes I'll be there with bells on

Look here I am, waiting for you patiently

Hello, how's your day, are you ok?

Then you get the others guy, complete radio silence but oh look he's sent a message, back and forth back and forth, meet have a good time.

Oh is that a text, no it's notification that my lives are restored on candy crush,

Right mother fucker why aren't you messaging me, I'll send him a text, wait wait wait, hmm he's not interested.

In the mean time nice guy is there messaging away, hi lovely, how's your day? You ok not heard off you?

Hi, me again are you ok, do you want to meet?

Ahhh where's this other mother fucker gone and why isn't HE messaging me!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

I don't buy that. If someone lies to me, or is a twat, I'll choose not to see them again.

Give me a guy who keeps his word any day."

I dont think it's the lying aspect she's getting at, that not what I got anyway.

It's more, the constantly there, constant contact, inability to go a day without texting and perhaps being entirely too sweet. Always texting first etc.

Does that make sense? I've seen the above from both viewpoints and can understand why it both would and wouldn't appeal to different people. Some people crave the closeness of it while it'll send others loopy. Guess it just depends on both parties.

Bottom line, just be who you are and someone out there will like you for you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

"

You see I see things like messaging all the time is not necessarily being nice. That’s arguably hounding and not respecting someone’s space, which is especially important in an nsa relationship. It’s essential that the guy is reliable and respectful, but I think that should go without saying, and it’s not that hard to find guys like that. There are plenty of guys who are reliable and respectful who are extremely well verified, so I don’t those attributes stand in their way.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

I don't buy that. If someone lies to me, or is a twat, I'll choose not to see them again.

Give me a guy who keeps his word any day.

I dont think it's the lying aspect she's getting at, that not what I got anyway.

It's more, the constantly there, constant contact, inability to go a day without texting and perhaps being entirely too sweet. Always texting first etc.

Does that make sense? I've seen the above from both viewpoints and can understand why it both would and wouldn't appeal to different people. Some people crave the closeness of it while it'll send others loopy. Guess it just depends on both parties.

Bottom line, just be who you are and someone out there will like you for you"

I like you for your face and body, is that shallow?

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

You see I see things like messaging all the time is not necessarily being nice. That’s arguably hounding and not respecting someone’s space, which is especially important in an nsa relationship. It’s essential that the guy is reliable and respectful, but I think that should go without saying, and it’s not that hard to find guys like that. There are plenty of guys who are reliable and respectful who are extremely well verified, so I don’t those attributes stand in their way.

Mrs"

Yeah I agree with this. hounding someone isn't 'nice' - that's being an asshole.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

I don't buy that. If someone lies to me, or is a twat, I'll choose not to see them again.

Give me a guy who keeps his word any day.

I dont think it's the lying aspect she's getting at, that not what I got anyway.

It's more, the constantly there, constant contact, inability to go a day without texting and perhaps being entirely too sweet. Always texting first etc.

Does that make sense? I've seen the above from both viewpoints and can understand why it both would and wouldn't appeal to different people. Some people crave the closeness of it while it'll send others loopy. Guess it just depends on both parties.

Bottom line, just be who you are and someone out there will like you for you

I like you for your face and body, is that shallow?"

You saying my craics shit? Charming!

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By *londieddWoman  over a year ago

fife

why not give it a bash and see how it goes?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Men who tell everyone that they're nice, never are, in my experience

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By *ndyuk7Man  over a year ago

newcastle upon tyne

being nice is true gets you no where am too nice for people maybe thats why im single woman want bad guys

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By *a Fee VerteWoman  over a year ago

Limbo


"Men who tell everyone that they're nice, never are, in my experience "

I think there's some truth in that - modesty is a very attractive quality. Genuinely nice people convey that with their actions as much as with their words.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Believe me, those that behave in an arsehole way getting nothing but the other side of my block button.

The only thing wrong with being nice is leaving yourself open to be taken advantage of, so remain true to yourself but don't allow yourself to get walked over x"

Unless PP is wearing just stilettos and a basque, then you might want to consider it..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You saying my craics shit? Charming! "

Nooo, you're ttp!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"being nice is true gets you no where am too nice for people maybe thats why im single woman want bad guys "

That’s bollocks. There are loads of good guys having loads of fun via a Fab. I know because I know of lot if these guys. There seems to be an unpleasant assumption from self proclaimed ‘nice’ guys that the successful guys of Fab are bad guys. There are many many reasons why a man doesn’t get success on Fab and there are many many reasons why a man is successful on Fab.

Mrs

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea

I no how you fill op.

No one wants to date the nice guy.

Most seem to want to be treetrd badley then cry wondering wot has happened and how mutch thay want a nice guy. But then wen we do show up thay are not interested.

It's not easy being the nice guy as almost everyone trys to take advantage of our good helpfall natcher.

Take all our help and give nuthing back.

But don't give up op.

Or you basically go down to thar level.

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By *oiluvfunMan  over a year ago

Penrith


"I can't articulate what I want to say but there's reasons behind everything.

Like a nice guy could be one that's a little bit too available, always messaging you, always keen, keeping their word, it's all women want when the one they fancy is acting like a total cunt and making you feel like you don't know where you stand. But, when faced with one of these 'nice' guys it can make you think hmm he's a bit wet let's chase one of these fuckers that keeps me on my toes.

It works both ways as well, like guys would lose interest if a woman was there at his beck and call and messaging all the time.

It's a stupid messed up situation that's not likely to change soon.

I don't buy that. If someone lies to me, or is a twat, I'll choose not to see them again.

Give me a guy who keeps his word any day.

Hi, how's your day?

Are you ok?

Yes I'll be there with bells on

Look here I am, waiting for you patiently

Hello, how's your day, are you ok?

Then you get the others guy, complete radio silence but oh look he's sent a message, back and forth back and forth, meet have a good time.

Oh is that a text, no it's notification that my lives are restored on candy crush,

Right mother fucker why aren't you messaging me, I'll send him a text, wait wait wait, hmm he's not interested.

In the mean time nice guy is there messaging away, hi lovely, how's your day? You ok not heard off you?

Hi, me again are you ok, do you want to meet?

Ahhh where's this other mother fucker gone and why isn't HE messaging me!! "

Hehehe! I love this post! Cheers!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I would like to start by stating however anyone chooses to be on fab has absolutely no impact on my success or otherwise.

"Mr Rogue v Mr Dependable"

The best way to be on Fab is to be yourself. If you are a bit of a rogue with slightly cunty undertones, you will appeal to some who thrive on the thrill of the chase and want someone who is slightly unobtainable.

Mr Dependable however will lose out to Mr Rogue as Mr Dependable can be relied upon to turn up when requested and perform as expected.

However some people don't need the drama, so the unpredictability of Mr Rogue will lose out to Mr Dependable who can be relied on to be consistent.

"But what about me?"

If you play the nice card and expect results, you are playing with the wrong deck of cards.

Don't worry about others success on Fab, be yourself. You won't appeal to all, but you may appeal to some. The second you say "I'm a nice guy" you lose credibility.

For the record, I behave like a cunt on the whole...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You saying my craics shit? Charming!

Nooo, you're ttp! "

That's alright then

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance."

You were busy that’s fine, so she moves onto someone who is available for her at that moment in time. Surely she can see you again when you’re not so busy? It doesn’t necessarily mean she likes him more than you.

Mrs

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance."

This is the problem us nice guys face evey day.

To the point we stop trying and just sit in the corner. And just wotch the world go by.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Manners, decency, charm I would have thought should be values in everyone.

Ultimately looks and body in addition to the above will drive any conversations and meets.

Nastiness and rudeness have never done me any good and wouldn't be advised..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance.

You were busy that’s fine, so she moves onto someone who is available for her at that moment in time. Surely she can see you again when you’re not so busy? It doesn’t necessarily mean she likes him more than you.

Mrs"

Oh no i mean she full on refused to talk to me anymore and blocked me the whole 9 yards lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I would like to start by stating however anyone chooses to be on fab has absolutely no impact on my success or otherwise.

"Mr Rogue v Mr Dependable"

The best way to be on Fab is to be yourself. If you are a bit of a rogue with slightly cunty undertones, you will appeal to some who thrive on the thrill of the chase and want someone who is slightly unobtainable.

Mr Dependable however will lose out to Mr Rogue as Mr Dependable can be relied upon to turn up when requested and perform as expected.

However some people don't need the drama, so the unpredictability of Mr Rogue will lose out to Mr Dependable who can be relied on to be consistent.

"But what about me?"

If you play the nice card and expect results, you are playing with the wrong deck of cards.

Don't worry about others success on Fab, be yourself. You won't appeal to all, but you may appeal to some. The second you say "I'm a nice guy" you lose credibility.

For the record, I behave like a cunt on the whole..."

I think there is a half way house. Be respectful, turn up when arranged and give her a good time for the duration of the meet. But it’s nsa sex, so who cares what goes on between meets.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance.

You were busy that’s fine, so she moves onto someone who is available for her at that moment in time. Surely she can see you again when you’re not so busy? It doesn’t necessarily mean she likes him more than you.

Mrs"

Alternatively. Maybe she did like him more?

That's just par for the course here. People are attracted to other people, and not just physical attraction.

Sometimes, someone more attractive to you comes along and interest in other can and does falter. It's nothing personal, although it does feel like it sometimes, and that's where people start jumping to conclusions.

"Oh, she's more attracted to him because he's a bad boy" rubbish. 'She' just wants to take his pants off more than she does yours and there's nothing you can do about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance.

You were busy that’s fine, so she moves onto someone who is available for her at that moment in time. Surely she can see you again when you’re not so busy? It doesn’t necessarily mean she likes him more than you.

Mrs

Oh no i mean she full on refused to talk to me anymore and blocked me the whole 9 yards lol"

Ok fair enough. Don’t know what her reasons were unless she told you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Then there's the other side of the coin. You only want one guy to be your husband but then 3 potential suitors turn up (would be 4 but he's too far and won't marry me )

Then you don't know which one to pick because they're all equally as nice, all equally as handsome and all equally as hung. Does one just go to the pictures this Friday with one, then go for a social with another and then go for a ride across country in his lorry (cos I really want to do that) then meet the other one when he's back from skiiing the end of the month.

Is it disloyal to meet all 3 do you tell them about the other guys or just do it?

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"In my experience girls who say you're "too nice" are the ones who thrive on drama. You'll see them moaning on Facebook about how men are shit and how their ex is an arsehole, but they'll keep on going for the same type of blokes. I've wasted time, effort and heartache on girls like that before in the hope that they'd give me a chance (usually after something has happened between us to spark my interest in the first place) and I could make them happy, but they're attracted to absolute bellends and will never change. It's at the point they realise that I'm just a decent guy the "you're too nice" line comes out. Their loss! "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Be a Nasty bastard then. Put that on your profile, see how far that gets you in here and in real life.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance.

You were busy that’s fine, so she moves onto someone who is available for her at that moment in time. Surely she can see you again when you’re not so busy? It doesn’t necessarily mean she likes him more than you.

Mrs

Alternatively. Maybe she did like him more?

That's just par for the course here. People are attracted to other people, and not just physical attraction.

Sometimes, someone more attractive to you comes along and interest in other can and does falter. It's nothing personal, although it does feel like it sometimes, and that's where people start jumping to conclusions.

"Oh, she's more attracted to him because he's a bad boy" rubbish. 'She' just wants to take his pants off more than she does yours and there's nothing you can do about it. "

That is true. You can not know what people’s reasons were. I went cool after a year and a half on a guy who was particularly nice and kind. My reasons were very specific as to what didn’t work for me, and if he were to ask me I would explain. By contrast we have been seeing another for 2 and half years who is also extremely nice and kind. But it works with him. If either were shitty to me, neither would have lasted.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Men who tell everyone that they're nice, never are, in my experience "

This exactly ^

Usually and I know not always. People who brag that they are nice or kind or whatever are usually complete dick heads who call you a fat slut for rejecting them or not replying to their messages all the time.

Now I know a lot of people who say they are nice are genuinely nice but I think women on here are wary and I can't blame them considering how many creeps and arseholes there are in the world. And of course women that are rude and blunt to you may just be on the defence or they be cunts too.

~Mia

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Be a Nasty bastard then. Put that on your profile, see how far that gets you in here and in real life. "

I have it on my profile and I do ok

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Then there's the other side of the coin. You only want one guy to be your husband but then 3 potential suitors turn up (would be 4 but he's too far and won't marry me )

Then you don't know which one to pick because they're all equally as nice, all equally as handsome and all equally as hung. Does one just go to the pictures this Friday with one, then go for a social with another and then go for a ride across country in his lorry (cos I really want to do that) then meet the other one when he's back from skiiing the end of the month.

Is it disloyal to meet all 3 do you tell them about the other guys or just do it?"

I did that. I dated loads of guys before I met my husband. I thought my husband would be just about her guy for me to date. About the 3rd date I realised I wanted to spend the rest of my life with him, so I dropped all the others. But there was an overlap until we had agreed to be exclusive. He overlapped me with someone too. As far as I’m concerned nothing is exclusive until that’s been agreed.

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By *a Fee VerteWoman  over a year ago

Limbo

Being nice will potentially get you everywhere with me. In fact it's non negotiable and I certainly don't knowingly chase so called bad boys. I personally don't get off on arrogance, dishonesty, unreliability, spitefulness, bad manners, selfishness and/or entitlement. Plenty of other women feel the same as me I'm sure and I fully appreciate there are a considerable number of genuinely nice men here on Fab (thank god).

However .... 'nice' on its own isn't enough. There also has to be sexual attraction, that certain 'I don't know what' which makes you want to get to know someone and sparks an excitement within you. In addition it has to be the right time and the right place - for both parties.

And bottom line, as with so much else on Fab, it's a numbers game. Women often have to make choices because there simply aren't enough hours in the day for them to meet all the nice men who are interested in them. Just because you're not chosen doesn't mean you're not nice, or should try to alter your personality ... it just means that at that moment in time, someone else was more attractive (physically, intellectually, in terms of availability, flexibility, distance, and/or what they could offer vs what the woman wanted right then). To blame niceness is far too simplistic if wondering why Fab isn't working out the way you want.

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"Then there's the other side of the coin. You only want one guy to be your husband but then 3 potential suitors turn up (would be 4 but he's too far and won't marry me )

Then you don't know which one to pick because they're all equally as nice, all equally as handsome and all equally as hung. Does one just go to the pictures this Friday with one, then go for a social with another and then go for a ride across country in his lorry (cos I really want to do that) then meet the other one when he's back from skiiing the end of the month.

Is it disloyal to meet all 3 do you tell them about the other guys or just do it?"

Here's the thing... you don't have to 'pick' just one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance.

You were busy that’s fine, so she moves onto someone who is available for her at that moment in time. Surely she can see you again when you’re not so busy? It doesn’t necessarily mean she likes him more than you.

Mrs

Oh no i mean she full on refused to talk to me anymore and blocked me the whole 9 yards lol

Ok fair enough. Don’t know what her reasons were unless she told you. "

As i said, her reason was simply "your not texting me as much as i text you"

And by contrast she had been telling me the guy who had been a no show and then outright lied to her about why he hadnt met her on 3 seperate occasions (id met her the week before and seen the messages and she was complaining to me saying he is such a bad fucking lier etc) and only messaged her to ask if he could "meet for a fuck" but then sited that the reason she kept giving him chances was "im too soft with people" yet i dont reply because im at work (and she knows im busy at work as id told her i might be quiter then usual because of it) yet i get blocked for this my firat and only offence

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Be a Nasty bastard then. Put that on your profile, see how far that gets you in here and in real life.

I have it on my profile and I do ok "

. You fooled me Into reading it

(Thanks for making it short and to the point!).

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By *isaB45Woman  over a year ago

Fabville

Is this another 'I can't get a shag' thread?

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By *hatYorkLadMan  over a year ago

York


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here

I like nice guys with honesty and integrity.

I don't like guys who whinge about not getting sex from women because they've been nice and they expected to get some.

See there is the problem. I can only speak for myself, but I never expect anything (except to see my message has been deleted without being read).

I am a very nice, articulate, educated and successful guy (sorry that was a bit self aggrandising). All I want to do is say hello, talk. If talking goes well then maybe we could meet. I can only apologise for the rest of my gender if they assume they're entitled to any more than that, but please don't tar us all with the same brush "

Seconded, I never expect sex and to be honest the few I do chat to on here via PM's it's sometimes flirty but more often normal chat and I've not even suggested meeting. I figure if a woman does want to meet she'll let me know, being pushy isn't in my nature.

My post further back wasn't aimed at Fab women anyway, more towards girls in real life that I've been involved with in the past where things have got off to a good start only to be told later I'm "too nice", which translates to "You're alright but there's a better option on the table that's caught my eye", then you see them pursuing or in a relationship with some guy who treats them like crap. Getting dropped for a better option is a fact of life, it hurts but it happens, it's when you get dropped for a complete dick it makes you wonder....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X"

'Nice' is a small part of what you need. If she doesn't find you physically attractive and sexy then 'nice' is a waste of both of your time. This is about nsa sex for most people.

Almost everyone is nice, its not enough.

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By *hamboy69Man  over a year ago

huddersfield


"Then there's the other side of the coin. You only want one guy to be your husband but then 3 potential suitors turn up (would be 4 but he's too far and won't marry me )

Then you don't know which one to pick because they're all equally as nice, all equally as handsome and all equally as hung. Does one just go to the pictures this Friday with one, then go for a social with another and then go for a ride across country in his lorry (cos I really want to do that) then meet the other one when he's back from skiiing the end of the month.

Is it disloyal to meet all 3 do you tell them about the other guys or just do it?"

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By *hamboy69Man  over a year ago

huddersfield


"Then there's the other side of the coin. You only want one guy to be your husband but then 3 potential suitors turn up (would be 4 but he's too far and won't marry me )

Then you don't know which one to pick because they're all equally as nice, all equally as handsome and all equally as hung. Does one just go to the pictures this Friday with one, then go for a social with another and then go for a ride across country in his lorry (cos I really want to do that) then meet the other one when he's back from skiiing the end of the month.

Is it disloyal to meet all 3 do you tell them about the other guys or just do it?"

I think you answered this question in your previous post if you carry on waiting for the one you want to marry he might find that clingy if he's aware you're meeting other guys if he's bothered he'll get his act together and after all it is a swinging site.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this another 'I can't get a shag' thread? "

That's not very nice!

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

Women love a bastard

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By *londieddWoman  over a year ago

fife


"I would like to start by stating however anyone chooses to be on fab has absolutely no impact on my success or otherwise.

"Mr Rogue v Mr Dependable"

The best way to be on Fab is to be yourself. If you are a bit of a rogue with slightly cunty undertones, you will appeal to some who thrive on the thrill of the chase and want someone who is slightly unobtainable.

Mr Dependable however will lose out to Mr Rogue as Mr Dependable can be relied upon to turn up when requested and perform as expected.

However some people don't need the drama, so the unpredictability of Mr Rogue will lose out to Mr Dependable who can be relied on to be consistent.

"But what about me?"

If you play the nice card and expect results, you are playing with the wrong deck of cards.

Don't worry about others success on Fab, be yourself. You won't appeal to all, but you may appeal to some. The second you say "I'm a nice guy" you lose credibility.

For the record, I behave like a cunt on the whole..."

haha at cunty undertones

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree with the whole nice guys finish last thing, but for a different reason

Im a nice guy and ive been told i am too nice by some people, but the other thing i notice is if you are a nice person woman give you 1 chance, if your a bit of a twat IN GENERAL woman are more forgiving of you, almost as if they are saying "well i knew youd fuck up so here is a freebie"

Where i on the other hand, if im working overtime or something comes up last minuite, i dont even get a first and final warning

I was messaging a woman on here and i was hvin a heavy week in work, so i didnt mesaage her as much as she would have liked, i didnt just not turn up for a meet or anything like that, simply not texting as much as she would have liked.

By contrast she was messaging another bloke who had just not turned up for 3 consecutive meets they had arranged and had very obviously lied about why he couldnt come, gave him chance after chance after chance.

You were busy that’s fine, so she moves onto someone who is available for her at that moment in time. Surely she can see you again when you’re not so busy? It doesn’t necessarily mean she likes him more than you.

Mrs

Oh no i mean she full on refused to talk to me anymore and blocked me the whole 9 yards lol

Ok fair enough. Don’t know what her reasons were unless she told you.

As i said, her reason was simply "your not texting me as much as i text you"

And by contrast she had been telling me the guy who had been a no show and then outright lied to her about why he hadnt met her on 3 seperate occasions (id met her the week before and seen the messages and she was complaining to me saying he is such a bad fucking lier etc) and only messaged her to ask if he could "meet for a fuck" but then sited that the reason she kept giving him chances was "im too soft with people" yet i dont reply because im at work (and she knows im busy at work as id told her i might be quiter then usual because of it) yet i get blocked for this my firat and only offence "

I think when people end relationships they sometimes look for a reason so as to shift the blame. Reduction in text messages due to you being busy wouldn’t be a reason if she really liked you. It’s pretty gutless for her to blame you, so it sounds like she is the one who is not nice. Can’t really be known why she prefers the unreliable guy. Maybe it’s because he treats her badly, or maybe it’s something else.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this another 'I can't get a shag' thread?

That's not very nice!"

She's not a guy, she doesn't have to pretend to be nice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Seconded, I never expect sex and to be honest the few I do chat to on here via PM's it's sometimes flirty but more often normal chat and I've not even suggested meeting. I figure if a woman does want to meet she'll let me know, being pushy isn't in my nature.

My post further back wasn't aimed at Fab women anyway, more towards girls in real life that I've been involved with in the past where things have got off to a good start only to be told later I'm "too nice", which translates to "You're alright but there's a better option on the table that's caught my eye", then you see them pursuing or in a relationship with some guy who treats them like crap. Getting dropped for a better option is a fact of life, it hurts but it happens, it's when you get dropped for a complete dick it makes you wonder...."

If she fancies him more than she fancies you then all the niceness in the world isnt going to compensate.

Come on, it's the same with women. There are plenty of very nice less 'classically attractive' single women out there struggling to get a man.

You're not queuing up to oblige.

Being nice is not enough.

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By *londieddWoman  over a year ago

fife


"Is this another 'I can't get a shag' thread? "

aye

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.

"There are more cunts on here than nice people!"

Allegedly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is this another 'I can't get a shag' thread?

That's not very nice!

She's not a guy, she doesn't have to pretend to be nice. "

That's my point and sums up the thread for me.

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"You are looking at things the wrong way.

Clearly from your post you think that being decent and nice entitles you to reward.

Try being decent and nice simply because it's the right thing to do and part of how you see yourself. Stop thinking others owe you for being what you want to be. "

Spot on Granny!

The sense of entitlement on this site still continues to amaze me.

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By *ools and the brainCouple  over a year ago

couple, us we him her.


"You are looking at things the wrong way.

Clearly from your post you think that being decent and nice entitles you to reward.

Try being decent and nice simply because it's the right thing to do and part of how you see yourself. Stop thinking others owe you for being what you want to be.

Spot on Granny!

The sense of entitlement on this site still continues to amaze me."

Also define nice?

Being nice isn't something you pretend you're either nice or your not.

Take myself for example I am an orrible bastard, miserable and generally no fun.

I can't pretend to be fluffy and cute, even tho I weally do wike fwuffy ickle kittens.

Man brain ffs.

Anyway

Back to being a cunt...

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment."

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here

I like nice guys with honesty and integrity.

I don't like guys who whinge about not getting sex from women because they've been nice and they expected to get some."

Think the little flowers miss this salient point. Too busy bitching that they're not balls deep in minge after being "nice".

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By *iss_tressWoman  over a year ago

London


"All I'm seeing here is a load of whingy blokes who seem to think that because they've put "niceness tokens" into a woman that they deserve to get sex back from her.

Perhaps that's the problem. Perhaps ~that~ is what women are finding unattractive. Nobody likes a man who believes he is entitled to get sex from a woman, because that just makes him an asshole who believes women are just there for his entertainment.

Grrrrrrr. Honestly - how do we stand a chance when that's your opinion?!? There's far too many high horses around here

I like nice guys with honesty and integrity.

I don't like guys who whinge about not getting sex from women because they've been nice and they expected to get some.

See there is the problem. I can only speak for myself, but I never expect anything (except to see my message has been deleted without being read).

I am a very nice, articulate, educated and successful guy (sorry that was a bit self aggrandising). All I want to do is say hello, talk. If talking goes well then maybe we could meet. I can only apologise for the rest of my gender if they assume they're entitled to any more than that, but please don't tar us all with the same brush "

Of course wanting to meet female only couples has nothing to do with your lack of success...okie dokie then!

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan  over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

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By *he-Hosiery-GentMan  over a year ago

Older Hot Bearded Guy

Just make sure you're not friend zoned.

That's my tip, OP.

If you are, then it's game over, I'm afraid.

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By *isaB45Woman  over a year ago

Fabville


"Is this another 'I can't get a shag' thread?

That's not very nice!"

There are numerous threads by men complaining because they can't get a shag. What they don't get, is that they are not entitled to sex, even if they pay for membership.

Are these the same men with less than scintilating profiles?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X"

you need to be nice to women however you still need to have the killer instinct .knowing when and how to make your move ..too nice equals friend zone ..too cocky equals total turn off

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I agree! Nice polite, a little naughty but basically i've got nowhere. One meet in 50 days is shite.

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city

Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree! Nice polite, a little naughty but basically i've got nowhere. One meet in 50 days is shite."

Here.

https://m.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/701809

Don't say nobody never did anything for you.

50 days and you had a meet? Hopefully the person you met didn't think it was shite.

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere."

I mean, it's ok. 'The guys' are allowed to be wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere."

If that is accepted, then it also must be accepted among the guys that men who get lots of meets are not very nice people.

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman  over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman  over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

I'd beg to differ, being nice, gets you everywhere

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By *eedsandyMan  over a year ago

Leeds


"I'd beg to differ, being nice, gets you everywhere "

It just doesn't get you a meet!

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. Xyou need to be nice to women however you still need to have the killer instinct .knowing when and how to make your move ..too nice equals friend zone ..too cocky equals total turn off "

Can we have a klaxon like on QI for each time someone on this site mentions the friendzone?

I mean seriously. The friendzone is a toxic myth perpetuated by misogynistic pick up artists.

There are simply women who are interested in having sex with you, and women who are not. Women don't owe you friendship just because you are nice to them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I agree! Nice polite, a little naughty but basically i've got nowhere. One meet in 50 days is shite."

One meet in 50 days! Why is that shite?How many did you want? And if you weren’t nice and polite do you think you would have had more meets?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ok I have a solution. All these guys who are convinced that them being nice and polite is preventing them from getting meets, it’s simply. Just stop being nice and polite. If your theory is true then you’ll get more meets. Bobs your uncle.

Mrs

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok I have a solution. All these guys who are convinced that them being nice and polite is preventing them from getting meets, it’s simply. Just stop being nice and polite. If your theory is true then you’ll get more meets. Bobs your uncle.

Mrs"

F..k you and your stupid f'kin ideas.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok I have a solution. All these guys who are convinced that them being nice and polite is preventing them from getting meets, it’s simply. Just stop being nice and polite. If your theory is true then you’ll get more meets. Bobs your uncle.

Mrs

F..k you and your stupid f'kin ideas. "

Yeah that makes me wanna shag you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well being nice works for me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ok I have a solution. All these guys who are convinced that them being nice and polite is preventing them from getting meets, it’s simply. Just stop being nice and polite. If your theory is true then you’ll get more meets. Bobs your uncle.

Mrs

F..k you and your stupid f'kin ideas.

Yeah that makes me wanna shag you "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've read the whole thread and can only think that the word 'nice' is just such a non descript and boring word. Perhaps being nice means that people actually think you are a bit boring (male or female) and it's a less mean way of saying it? If they were into you they could find a much more descriptive word to use.

Oh yes she was nice, or oh yes she was fucking amazing.

I don't think it's the fact that you consider yourself nice that's the problem, it's that they don't consider you their fucking amazing instead.

Anyway what was the question again?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?"

On fab.... Probably like 65% yes

Off fab in real world...... 99% yes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?"

*checks number of veris*

Oh dang, apparently I'm not very nice.

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?

On fab.... Probably like 65% yes

Off fab in real world...... 99% yes"

I feel a bit sorry for you if you believe that.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"I've read the whole thread and can only think that the word 'nice' is just such a non descript and boring word. Perhaps being nice means that people actually think you are a bit boring (male or female) and it's a less mean way of saying it? If they were into you they could find a much more descriptive word to use.

"

Yeah, it's a bit harsh to say but I think 'you're too nice' is generally code for 'you don't excite me in any way whatsoever'.

And if a person's way of being 'nice' is just to agree with whatever other people say, never have your own opinion, be generally passive,then that doesn't tend to be appealing.

Regardless, if any person of any gender finds themselves getting rejected a lot then that sucks, but the best response is to work on self improvement rather than getting angry and resentful.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X"

Top rant... and this is the place to do it....obvs.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X"

you're right ,it gets you nowhere ??

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?

On fab.... Probably like 65% yes

Off fab in real world...... 99% yes

I feel a bit sorry for you if you believe that."

The evidence is strong thoe.

We'll wen i go out. Almost Anywear the guys that do at lest 1 of the flowing... argue, smoke,get pisd, call girls bitches,shag any female going and dump them, do illegal things and treet ladies like thay are Thar just for the guys to fuk them and nuthing els, ect... ALL have partners.

Thay Cheet on others.

And allways bragging about how meney women thay have been with.

And thar girlfriends are allways complaining about them.

Most have kids thay don't even want

And most don't even work.

Ect.....

and hear i am still a virgin that carnt even get a date for a simpall drink and chat never mind a shag.

All i want is a nice famley.

I have a good job

I wood arsk how thar day has been

I wood tak them out to placess

I Don't smok

I Don't drink

I Don't swear

I Follow the lor to the letter.

I Don't go looking for a fight just for fun

Ect...

Can you see my point ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?

On fab.... Probably like 65% yes

Off fab in real world...... 99% yes

I feel a bit sorry for you if you believe that.

The evidence is strong thoe.

We'll wen i go out. Almost Anywear the guys that do at lest 1 of the flowing... argue, smoke,get pisd, call girls bitches,shag any female going and dump them, do illegal things and treet ladies like thay are Thar just for the guys to fuk them and nuthing els, ect... ALL have partners.

Thay Cheet on others.

And allways bragging about how meney women thay have been with.

And thar girlfriends are allways complaining about them.

Most have kids thay don't even want

And most don't even work.

Ect.....

and hear i am still a virgin that carnt even get a date for a simpall drink and chat never mind a shag.

All i want is a nice famley.

I have a good job

I wood arsk how thar day has been

I wood tak them out to placess

I Don't smok

I Don't drink

I Don't swear

I Follow the lor to the letter.

I Don't go looking for a fight just for fun

Ect...

Can you see my point ? "

No I don’t see your point. I think there are a hell of a lot of women who would confirm that they would never get involved with the type of guys you are describing. I certainly never have. My husband isn’t like that, and none of the men we’ve been involved with on the swing scene are like that.

Mrs

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"Just make sure you're not friend zoned.

That's my tip, OP.

If you are, then it's game over, I'm afraid. "

Hmmm, not necessarily......I put someone in the friend zone for a couple of months - then took him out big time lol!!

But I agree, I'm afraid 'You're too nice' means 'I like you as a person but do not fancy you in any way, shape or form.'

The fact that men who act badly towards women get lots of action either means they target women with low self-esteem, or they are so desirable that women want to sleep with them regardless.

Acting like an arse will not make you hotter!

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"

We'll wen i go out. Almost Anywear the guys that do at lest 1 of the flowing... argue, smoke,get pisd, call girls bitches,shag any female going and dump them, do illegal things and treet ladies like thay are Thar just for the guys to fuk them and nuthing els, ect... ALL have partners.

Thay Cheet on others.

And allways bragging about how meney women thay have been with.

And thar girlfriends are allways complaining about them.

Most have kids thay don't even want

And most don't even work.

Ect.....

and hear i am still a virgin that carnt even get a date for a simpall drink and chat never mind a shag.

All i want is a nice famley.

I have a good job

I wood arsk how thar day has been

I wood tak them out to placess

I Don't smok

I Don't drink

I Don't swear

I Follow the lor to the letter.

I Don't go looking for a fight just for fun

Ect...

Can you see my point ? "

No, I can't see your point. I believe you are seeing confirmation bias. Either that or you're going to some really, really scummy places.

As someone posted further up the thread - self-improvement is generally the key to finding yourself in a relationship with someone. But I suspect for a virgin that a swingers site is not the place to do that.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?

On fab.... Probably like 65% yes

Off fab in real world...... 99% yes

I feel a bit sorry for you if you believe that.

The evidence is strong thoe.

We'll wen i go out. Almost Anywear the guys that do at lest 1 of the flowing... argue, smoke,get pisd, call girls bitches,shag any female going and dump them, do illegal things and treet ladies like thay are Thar just for the guys to fuk them and nuthing els, ect... ALL have partners.

Thay Cheet on others.

And allways bragging about how meney women thay have been with.

And thar girlfriends are allways complaining about them.

Most have kids thay don't even want

And most don't even work.

Ect.....

and hear i am still a virgin that carnt even get a date for a simpall drink and chat never mind a shag.

All i want is a nice famley.

I have a good job

I wood arsk how thar day has been

I wood tak them out to placess

I Don't smok

I Don't drink

I Don't swear

I Follow the lor to the letter.

I Don't go looking for a fight just for fun

Ect...

Can you see my point ?

No I don’t see your point. I think there are a hell of a lot of women who would confirm that they would never get involved with the type of guys you are describing. I certainly never have. My husband isn’t like that, and none of the men we’ve been involved with on the swing scene are like that.

Mrs"

fair point. and i won't deniy it.

But thay don't seem to be in the south east.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"

We'll wen i go out. Almost Anywear the guys that do at lest 1 of the flowing... argue, smoke,get pisd, call girls bitches,shag any female going and dump them, do illegal things and treet ladies like thay are Thar just for the guys to fuk them and nuthing els, ect... ALL have partners.

Thay Cheet on others.

And allways bragging about how meney women thay have been with.

And thar girlfriends are allways complaining about them.

Most have kids thay don't even want

And most don't even work.

Ect.....

and hear i am still a virgin that carnt even get a date for a simpall drink and chat never mind a shag.

All i want is a nice famley.

I have a good job

I wood arsk how thar day has been

I wood tak them out to placess

I Don't smok

I Don't drink

I Don't swear

I Follow the lor to the letter.

I Don't go looking for a fight just for fun

Ect...

Can you see my point ?

No, I can't see your point. I believe you are seeing confirmation bias. Either that or you're going to some really, really scummy places.

As someone posted further up the thread - self-improvement is generally the key to finding yourself in a relationship with someone. But I suspect for a virgin that a swingers site is not the place to do that."

Mabey

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"

fair point. and i won't deniy it.

But thay don't seem to be in the south east."

I've lived in the SE my whole life and never experienced the kind of man that you describe.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"Just make sure you're not friend zoned.

That's my tip, OP.

If you are, then it's game over, I'm afraid. "

This is also my problem.

Any ladies i do talk to i allways end up in the friend zoned.

Never goes any further......

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"Just make sure you're not friend zoned.

That's my tip, OP.

If you are, then it's game over, I'm afraid.

This is also my problem.

Any ladies i do talk to i allways end up in the friend zoned.

Never goes any further......"

They've not 'friendzoned' you. They just don't want to have sex with you.

You don't get sex out of women by just being nice to them. You have to do something more interesting than that.

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"So conclusion. Nice guys don’t get meets. And men who get lots of meets, well verified etc. treat women like shit? Is that correct?

On fab.... Probably like 65% yes

Off fab in real world...... 99% yes

I feel a bit sorry for you if you believe that.

The evidence is strong thoe.

We'll wen i go out. Almost Anywear the guys that do at lest 1 of the flowing... argue, smoke,get pisd, call girls bitches,shag any female going and dump them, do illegal things and treet ladies like thay are Thar just for the guys to fuk them and nuthing els, ect... ALL have partners.

Thay Cheet on others.

And allways bragging about how meney women thay have been with.

And thar girlfriends are allways complaining about them.

Most have kids thay don't even want

And most don't even work.

Ect.....

"

These are Jeremy Kyle's people!

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere.

I mean, it's ok. 'The guys' are allowed to be wrong."

You know when a girl you know starts to date a creep, and you say "he's a creep" and she replies "You don't know him like I do"..

That is all the girls on here trying to convince us that they only sleep with nice guys on here.

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere.

I mean, it's ok. 'The guys' are allowed to be wrong.

You know when a girl you know starts to date a creep, and you say "he's a creep" and she replies "You don't know him like I do"..

That is all the girls on here trying to convince us that they only sleep with nice guys on here."

Perhaps you think he's a creep, but he's not a creep? Perhaps she thinks you're just a creep who wants to get in her knickers by getting her to leave her partner.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience girls who say you're "too nice" are the ones who thrive on drama. You'll see them moaning on Facebook about how men are shit and how their ex is an arsehole, but they'll keep on going for the same type of blokes. I've wasted time, effort and heartache on girls like that before in the hope that they'd give me a chance (usually after something has happened between us to spark my interest in the first place) and I could make them happy, but they're attracted to absolute bellends and will never change. It's at the point they realise that I'm just a decent guy the "you're too nice" line comes out. Their loss! "

This post hits the nail on the head!

Several of the women who have said I was "too nice" wanted someone to treat them like shit, one even left me to go back to a boyfriend who used to beat her up!

Go figure

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By *evil_u_knowMan  over a year ago

city


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere.

I mean, it's ok. 'The guys' are allowed to be wrong.

You know when a girl you know starts to date a creep, and you say "he's a creep" and she replies "You don't know him like I do"..

That is all the girls on here trying to convince us that they only sleep with nice guys on here.

Perhaps you think he's a creep, but he's not a creep? Perhaps she thinks you're just a creep who wants to get in her knickers by getting her to leave her partner."

But I don't want a girl after she has been with a creep. She is no longer sexually attractive to me.

I have never judged a guy wrong, every girl I have ever warned about a guy has come back to tell me I was right. It's way easier for guys to judge a guy, and girls to judge a girl.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"

fair point. and i won't deniy it.

But thay don't seem to be in the south east.

I've lived in the SE my whole life and never experienced the kind of man that you describe."

This is just the local pubs.

Mabey I'm going to the rong placess.....

That sed thar is not meney other places i can go wear over singles will be.

Carnt go to nite clubs ect cos of medical.

And the other places i like to go to tend to have very fue / no singles and just family's ect.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

But I don't want a girl after she has been with a creep. She is no longer sexually attractive to me.

"

A woman making a bad relationship choice means she's then soiled goods to you?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere.

I mean, it's ok. 'The guys' are allowed to be wrong.

You know when a girl you know starts to date a creep, and you say "he's a creep" and she replies "You don't know him like I do"..

That is all the girls on here trying to convince us that they only sleep with nice guys on here.

Perhaps you think he's a creep, but he's not a creep? Perhaps she thinks you're just a creep who wants to get in her knickers by getting her to leave her partner."

When you were here before,

Couldn't look you in the eye,

You're just like an angel,

Your skin makes me cry;

You float like a feather,

In a beautiful world,

I wish I was special,

You're so fuckin' special;

But I'm a creep,

I'm a weirdo,

What the hell am I doin' here?

I don't belong here;

I don't care if it hurts,

I wanna have control,

I want a perfect body,

I want a perfect soul;

I want you to notice,

When I'm not around,

You're so fuckin' special,

I wish I was special;

But I'm a creep,

I'm a weirdo,

What the hell am I doin' here?

I don't belong here, ohhhh, ohhhh

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

This is just the local pubs.

Mabey I'm going to the rong placess.....

That sed thar is not meney other places i can go wear over singles will be.

Carnt go to nite clubs ect cos of medical.

And the other places i like to go to tend to have very fue / no singles and just family's ect."

Maybe go on the MeetUp website and find some events that interest you. You're not guaranteed to find other singletons, but you're more likely to at least get to know people you have things in common with.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X

I sometimes feel the same way mate, I'm always being told that I'm "too nice" "

Snap- exactly this.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"Just make sure you're not friend zoned.

That's my tip, OP.

If you are, then it's game over, I'm afraid.

This is also my problem.

Any ladies i do talk to i allways end up in the friend zoned.

Never goes any further......

They've not 'friendzoned' you. They just don't want to have sex with you.

You don't get sex out of women by just being nice to them. You have to do something more interesting than that."

I get that.

But i also seem to be the Onley 1 around hear that wants a life partner.

No one seems to want to setall.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my experience girls who say you're "too nice" are the ones who thrive on drama. You'll see them moaning on Facebook about how men are shit and how their ex is an arsehole, but they'll keep on going for the same type of blokes. I've wasted time, effort and heartache on girls like that before in the hope that they'd give me a chance (usually after something has happened between us to spark my interest in the first place) and I could make them happy, but they're attracted to absolute bellends and will never change. It's at the point they realise that I'm just a decent guy the "you're too nice" line comes out. Their loss!

This post hits the nail on the head!

Several of the women who have said I was "too nice" wanted someone to treat them like shit, one even left me to go back to a boyfriend who used to beat her up!

Go figure "

I think there are some women who deviate towards men who treat them badly. But likewise there are some men who will deviate towards women who treat them badly. That’s frustration for nice people who lose out on someone they care about. But this is not reflective of all people. And with regards to the swing scene, it really doesn’t matter if someone is good husband material. It matters if they turn up and it matters whether they are respectful for the duration of the meet. And it matters if a good time is had. But not much else matters with NSA.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just make sure you're not friend zoned.

That's my tip, OP.

If you are, then it's game over, I'm afraid.

This is also my problem.

Any ladies i do talk to i allways end up in the friend zoned.

Never goes any further......

They've not 'friendzoned' you. They just don't want to have sex with you.

You don't get sex out of women by just being nice to them. You have to do something more interesting than that.

I get that.

But i also seem to be the Onley 1 around hear that wants a life partner.

No one seems to want to setall.....

"

You are correct on that statement. People don’t as a norm use this particular site to find someone to settle down with.

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"Just make sure you're not friend zoned.

That's my tip, OP.

If you are, then it's game over, I'm afraid.

This is also my problem.

Any ladies i do talk to i allways end up in the friend zoned.

Never goes any further......

They've not 'friendzoned' you. They just don't want to have sex with you.

You don't get sex out of women by just being nice to them. You have to do something more interesting than that.

I get that.

But i also seem to be the Onley 1 around hear that wants a life partner.

No one seems to want to setall.....

You are correct on that statement. People don’t as a norm use this particular site to find someone to settle down with. "

Problem is people off the site don't eather

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By *ust PeachyWoman  over a year ago

Prestonish


"Now this isn’t the normal single guy....I’m nice and can’t get a meet....I can get a meet and am doing ok thanks.

My post is more why is it being a nice guy who tries to have integrity, show selflessness while

Also putting other people first seems to get you nowhere these days....

....seem the less respect you show people and the more you manipulate and mistreat them the better you get on.....maybe it’s time for a change.....become one nasty fucker....be vengful and filled and consumed by hate a loathing......treat women like pieces of meat.....

Nah....that’s not me....so sorry for the rant and somewhat downtrodden post but just feeling a bit like shite tonight. X"

I’d like to think you’re wrong but to an extent I’d agree - but it’s the same for both sexes! I’m ‘nice’ - never mess people about - do nice things for people - never play games - never nasty - and I get hugely messed about/treated like crap by chaps both on here and in real life! Being soft as poop is a bad thing I think!

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"

I have never judged a guy wrong, every girl I have ever warned about a guy has come back to tell me I was right. It's way easier for guys to judge a guy, and girls to judge a girl."

I do find that to be true - I can spot a troublesome woman a mile off!

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By *risky_MareWoman  over a year ago

...Up on the Downs


"

This is just the local pubs.

Mabey I'm going to the rong placess.....

That sed thar is not meney other places i can go wear over singles will be.

Carnt go to nite clubs ect cos of medical.

And the other places i like to go to tend to have very fue / no singles and just family's ect.

Maybe go on the MeetUp website and find some events that interest you. You're not guaranteed to find other singletons, but you're more likely to at least get to know people you have things in common with. "

Yes, that is a better idea than trawling the internet, though a lot of people on Meet Ups are socially passive, it is at least a group social event.

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By *ady LickWoman  over a year ago

Northampton Somewhere

In my experience when someone says you're too nice it's a polite way of saying 'sorry but I'm not interested in you'

There's nothing wrong with being nice either so long as you're not over bearing/ needy etc, that is just annoying.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Completely understand the sentiment.

I was quite cold and mean, got treated like gold for it!....but I’m not that person anymore, being a bitch... it feels like an act. And I don’t see the point?

I like myself much better being nice, it’s easier. It’s a quality I respect.

So, I just have to meet better quality people, who appreciate kindness. And that’s getting easier too! Better judge of character now...the joys of being an experienced mature woman

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By *eesideMan  over a year ago

margate sumwear by the sea


"

This is just the local pubs.

Mabey I'm going to the rong placess.....

That sed thar is not meney other places i can go wear over singles will be.

Carnt go to nite clubs ect cos of medical.

And the other places i like to go to tend to have very fue / no singles and just family's ect.

Maybe go on the MeetUp website and find some events that interest you. You're not guaranteed to find other singletons, but you're more likely to at least get to know people you have things in common with. "

I'll give it a google

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By *ucy LewdWoman  over a year ago

North Oxfordshire


"But I don't want a girl after she has been with a creep. She is no longer sexually attractive to me.

I have never judged a guy wrong, every girl I have ever warned about a guy has come back to tell me I was right. It's way easier for guys to judge a guy, and girls to judge a girl."

You're not a particularly nice guy if you won't be with a woman because you don't approve of the people she's previously had sex with. (Unless they were like, Donald Trump or something. I dunno.)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I wouldn’t choose to fuck a guy because he was a nice person... get real you may be really sweet... but if you aren’t sexy to me.. you aren’t getting any. Particularly if it’s ‘just’ a sexual thing!

Similarly, you could be sex on legs.. but if you’re a jackass... you aren’t getting in either.

It’s the combination thing, I want to be attracted, and I’d like someone decent. You have a much better time in bed, in between rounds and out of the bedroom with the nice guys!

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman  over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere.

I mean, it's ok. 'The guys' are allowed to be wrong.

You know when a girl you know starts to date a creep, and you say "he's a creep" and she replies "You don't know him like I do"..

That is all the girls on here trying to convince us that they only sleep with nice guys on here.

Perhaps you think he's a creep, but he's not a creep? Perhaps she thinks you're just a creep who wants to get in her knickers by getting her to leave her partner.

When you were here before,

Couldn't look you in the eye,

You're just like an angel,

Your skin makes me cry;

You float like a feather,

In a beautiful world,

I wish I was special,

You're so fuckin' special;

But I'm a creep,

I'm a weirdo,

What the hell am I doin' here?

I don't belong here;

I don't care if it hurts,

I wanna have control,

I want a perfect body,

I want a perfect soul;

I want you to notice,

When I'm not around,

You're so fuckin' special,

I wish I was special;

But I'm a creep,

I'm a weirdo,

What the hell am I doin' here?

I don't belong here, ohhhh, ohhhh"

Aaaah my favourite ever song

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its pretty much accepted among the guys that being nice on here gets you nowhere.

I mean, it's ok. 'The guys' are allowed to be wrong.

You know when a girl you know starts to date a creep, and you say "he's a creep" and she replies "You don't know him like I do"..

That is all the girls on here trying to convince us that they only sleep with nice guys on here.

Perhaps you think he's a creep, but he's not a creep? Perhaps she thinks you're just a creep who wants to get in her knickers by getting her to leave her partner.

When you were here before,

Couldn't look you in the eye,

You're just like an angel,

Your skin makes me cry;

You float like a feather,

In a beautiful world,

I wish I was special,

You're so fuckin' special;

But I'm a creep,

I'm a weirdo,

What the hell am I doin' here?

I don't belong here;

I don't care if it hurts,

I wanna have control,

I want a perfect body,

I want a perfect soul;

I want you to notice,

When I'm not around,

You're so fuckin' special,

I wish I was special;

But I'm a creep,

I'm a weirdo,

What the hell am I doin' here?

I don't belong here, ohhhh, ohhhh

Aaaah my favourite ever song "

I used to play it in the band I used to be in... Love it!

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