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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Earth can support around 1million people with no affect on resources ... that's a huge depopulation required...but mother natures always gets her way in the end. We have existed no more than a blink of the eye in time as a whole....and we will be gone just as soon i suspect..1000s of years to us...but a mere speck in time....so just spend yours wisely |
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over a year ago
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Consumption of needless stuff is a drain on resources. We managed for Thousands of years without all the technology we have today.
If we were less materialistic and took what we needed to survive, the planet would not be in the state it is in today.
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"Consumption of needless stuff is a drain on resources. We managed for Thousands of years without all the technology we have today.
If we were less materialistic and took what we needed to survive, the planet would not be in the state it is in today.
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Agreed.
For example
If we got rid of shops and went out and collected our own food, there would be no food waste.
It's too easy to buy a shit load of food then throw it away when it goes off |
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2 world wars certainly depopulated the planet and other conflicts before and after and I dare say more in the future, I wouldn't worry too much about it, man is quite capable of destroying ourselves and depopulation. Not the best outlook on life but it is as they say, life |
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"Consumption of needless stuff is a drain on resources. We managed for Thousands of years without all the technology we have today.
If we were less materialistic and took what we needed to survive, the planet would not be in the state it is in today.
Agreed.
For example
If we got rid of shops and went out and collected our own food, there would be no food waste.
It's too easy to buy a shit load of food then throw it away when it goes off" ^ Spot on |
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"Earth can support around 1million people with no affect on resources ... that's a huge depopulation required...but mother natures always gets her way in the end. We have existed no more than a blink of the eye in time as a whole....and we will be gone just as soon i suspect..1000s of years to us...but a mere speck in time....so just spend yours wisely"
Given that the current world population is over 7 billion (7000000000000), it's absurd to state that the planet can only support 1 million (1000000).
We are overpopulated and it would be interesting to calculate how much human respiration is responsible for the increase in global CO2 levels.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Enough I say. We are full.
It should be 1 in 1 out like in a full car park
You gets your ticket at next family funeral and it gets you 1 stay at a maternity hospital "
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"2 world wars certainly depopulated the planet and other conflicts before and after and I dare say more in the future, I wouldn't worry too much about it, man is quite capable of destroying ourselves and depopulation. Not the best outlook on life but it is as they say, life"
Neither World War resulted in significant depopulation.
WWI deaths are estimated at between 15 and 19 million. As a percentage of the total population of the countries involved, that's 1.6 - 1.9% of population.
WWII deaths are higher; 70 - 85 million (estimated). Still only 3 - 3.7% of the total population of the countries involved.
In global terms, world population is estimated to have reached 2 billion in 1927.
Assuming that world population remained static at this level until 1945, killing off 85 million represents only a 4.25% reduction in population.
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"We should eat all the old people just like in that film with Charlton Heston.
Ben Hur I think it was."
I say eat the young. Tastes better I'd imagine and we get the fun of making them. That's a win win |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I first started thinking about this over ten years ago!... Stuff I used to talk about with people back then was just seen as an "overreaction".
Every month another study concludes the same thing... The habitat required for human existence is rapidly becoming useless for survival!.
Every time you tell somebody this the first reaction is "we'll change when we peer into the abyss"... Sadly I don't think they realise most of this stuff is already locked in!.. When biospheres fail the top feeders fail first not last as there the most dependent on the biospheres stability |
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By *al2001Man
over a year ago
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"I first started thinking about this over ten years ago!... Stuff I used to talk about with people back then was just seen as an "overreaction".
Every month another study concludes the same thing... The habitat required for human existence is rapidly becoming useless for survival!.
Every time you tell somebody this the first reaction is "we'll change when we peer into the abyss"... Sadly I don't think they realise most of this stuff is already locked in!.. When biospheres fail the top feeders fail first not last as there the most dependent on the biospheres stability"
So the scots will be ok then |
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"2 world wars certainly depopulated the planet and other conflicts before and after and I dare say more in the future, I wouldn't worry too much about it, man is quite capable of destroying ourselves and depopulation. Not the best outlook on life but it is as they say, life
Neither World War resulted in significant depopulation.
WWI deaths are estimated at between 15 and 19 million. As a percentage of the total population of the countries involved, that's 1.6 - 1.9% of population.
WWII deaths are higher; 70 - 85 million (estimated). Still only 3 - 3.7% of the total population of the countries involved.
In global terms, world population is estimated to have reached 2 billion in 1927.
Assuming that world population remained static at this level until 1945, killing off 85 million represents only a 4.25% reduction in population.
Lucifer
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Dont forget Spanish flu 1918-1919. 50 million people didn't make it. |
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Does the welfare state at home and abroad help our over population time bomb? Years ago here and still to this day in developing countries people had lots of children in the hope a couple would survive until adulthood. Now of course they all stand a much higher chance of survival due to modern medicine and high quality food. Has this attitude created an artificially high population? Is it right to stop nature's plan of survival of the fittest? |
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" Does the welfare state at home and abroad help our over population time bomb? Years ago here and still to this day in developing countries people had lots of children in the hope a couple would survive until adulthood. Now of course Has this attitude created an artificially high population? Is it right to stop nature's plan of survival of the fittest? "
of course it's right to use knowledge and scientific advancement...that's what evolution is surely! and to say that in developing countries 'they all stand a much higher chance of survival due to modern medicine and high quality food' is just ridiculous! |
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" Does the welfare state at home and abroad help our over population time bomb? Years ago here and still to this day in developing countries people had lots of children in the hope a couple would survive until adulthood. Now of course Has this attitude created an artificially high population? Is it right to stop nature's plan of survival of the fittest?
of course it's right to use knowledge and scientific advancement...that's what evolution is surely! and to say that in developing countries 'they all stand a much higher chance of survival due to modern medicine and high quality food' is just ridiculous!"
Is it? Why do you think they have a higher survival rate now than in say, the mid 80's if not down to foreign aid, (medicine and food.) What do you think causes lower infant mortality if not this? |
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"Time to ban medicine and foreign aid for developing countries i guess. Ah, well it had to happen. "
Actually, that would be counter productive. Reasons why people in developing countries have large families include:
- lack of access to contraception
- limited education opportunities
- lack of government support to old people, so parents may have many kids to ensure they have someone to take care of them in their old age
- the need for labor in farming/rural communities. People can't afford to hire workers, so they have lots of kids to help them
- high child mortality rates. If you know there's a good chance your kids will die, you may have more for sadly pragmatic reasons
Providing aid and helping counties develop (by which we mean become more like us, really) would help their birth rates drop like it has in the West. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Does the welfare state at home and abroad help our over population time bomb? Years ago here and still to this day in developing countries people had lots of children in the hope a couple would survive until adulthood. Now of course Has this attitude created an artificially high population? Is it right to stop nature's plan of survival of the fittest?
of course it's right to use knowledge and scientific advancement...that's what evolution is surely! and to say that in developing countries 'they all stand a much higher chance of survival due to modern medicine and high quality food' is just ridiculous!
Is it? Why do you think they have a higher survival rate now than in say, the mid 80's if not down to foreign aid, (medicine and food.) What do you think causes lower infant mortality if not this? "
yes, of course it does! to some, in some areas...but thats not what you said. You said 'they all' stand a better chance , which is completely untrue in a lot of places...and regardless of that, surely evolution is not just relevant to science, technology etc but how we treat each other. Some countries that you would now regard as 'developing' are countries that had formal education, universities,writers and artists while europeans were still scratching their heads over their square wheels...are you saying nothing should have changed there either? You can't stop progress, and overpopulation is obviously a major concern, but part of progress should mean educating people to have a bit of compassion and awareness of others surely? |
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Haven't read the rest of the comments, but one main problem that the majority of the current population have is selfishness. They think about now and not the future, so refuse to or can't be bothered to do certain things as it isn't impacting them significantly right now, for example: recycle, be energy efficient, less water, fair trade (a few to mention) and many more. If people could see how not thinking of the planet could impact it, I doubt the majority would even care as its not actually happening to them now! |
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"Consumption of needless stuff is a drain on resources. We managed for Thousands of years without all the technology we have today.
If we were less materialistic and took what we needed to survive, the planet would not be in the state it is in today.
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The thing is...the planet will be fine... its mankind that won't be |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What about the chavvy types in the estate around the corner from me.
Most of them have at least 3 children per household and not a job between them
Is sterilization the answer? |
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"What about the chavvy types in the estate around the corner from me.
Most of them have at least 3 children per household and not a job between them
Is sterilization the answer? "
Human rights don't allow that. But the government cutting benefits down to two children was their way forward, but then people argue the poorer are being punished for not being born with a silver spoon in their mouth |
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By *htcMan
over a year ago
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yes there is a over population with india and china being the biggest, india will soon be the worlds largest population very soon according to the news.
i did read the news few years back about food shortages are expected by 2050 if we do not do anything or start farming more, as more farms close each year than open.
the world needs to limit how many kids anyone can have max 2. no more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The best analogy for technology is getting on a treadmill and walking faster and faster, each step forward solving problems gives you another problem to solve plus an unexpected problem from the problem you solved.
Antibiotics for instance, your on a treadmill constantly overcoming bacteria evolution....
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By (user no longer on site)
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"What about the chavvy types in the estate around the corner from me.
Most of them have at least 3 children per household and not a job between them
Is sterilization the answer?
Human rights don't allow that. But the government cutting benefits down to two children was their way forward, but then people argue the poorer are being punished for not being born with a silver spoon in their mouth "
I grew up with nothing.
Yet I don't feel the need to over populate the planet |
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"yes there is a over population with india and china being the biggest, india will soon be the worlds largest population very soon according to the news.
i did read the news few years back about food shortages are expected by 2050 if we do not do anything or start farming more, as more farms close each year than open.
the world needs to limit how many kids anyone can have max 2. no more. "
It's a shame that most farms close due to the government allowing farm produce to be imported instead. |
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I don't agree with a cull... the whole purge thing I find very distasteful and greatly reminds me of the balkans we witnessed some of the most horrific and brutal acts one man can carry out on another human...
I do however agree with a Darwinian approach, remove all the safety warning labels off everything and well, need I say more..
It'll just mean that the remaining population will have to move around as I imagine America will be pretty empty after a couple of years.. (who can argue that logic, the dozy fuckwits voted in trump! ) |
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" Does the welfare state at home and abroad help our over population time bomb? Years ago here and still to this day in developing countries people had lots of children in the hope a couple would survive until adulthood. Now of course Has this attitude created an artificially high population? Is it right to stop nature's plan of survival of the fittest?
of course it's right to use knowledge and scientific advancement...that's what evolution is surely! and to say that in developing countries 'they all stand a much higher chance of survival due to modern medicine and high quality food' is just ridiculous!
Is it? Why do you think they have a higher survival rate now than in say, the mid 80's if not down to foreign aid, (medicine and food.) What do you think causes lower infant mortality if not this?
yes, of course it does! to some, in some areas...but thats not what you said. You said 'they all' stand a better chance , which is completely untrue in a lot of places...and regardless of that, surely evolution is not just relevant to science, technology etc but how we treat each other. Some countries that you would now regard as 'developing' are countries that had formal education, universities,writers and artists while europeans were still scratching their heads over their square wheels...are you saying nothing should have changed there either? You can't stop progress, and overpopulation is obviously a major concern, but part of progress should mean educating people to have a bit of compassion and awareness of others surely? "
Sounds to me like you want your cake and you want to eat it! |
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By *heOwlMan
over a year ago
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"Do you think there are simply too many people on the planet and that we are screwing the planet and other life up?? . If you knew you would survive would you accept the depopulation agenda ??"
As a species we are behaving like bacteria, except we are smart enough to know better. We still keep increasing our population ever onwards as if there were unlimited resources. Bacteria do the same thing, then when the resources run out or the toxin levels get too high most of the population die.
When I was a lot younger I remember being told that if we continue the way we were then we would reach population crash by 2050.
From what I can see nothing has changed.
So I guess I would have to say yes to the first question.
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"yes there is a over population with india and china being the biggest, india will soon be the worlds largest population very soon according to the news.
i did read the news few years back about food shortages are expected by 2050 if we do not do anything or start farming more, as more farms close each year than open.
the world needs to limit how many kids anyone can have max 2. no more. "
The born population of virtually every western country average less than 2 children per couple already |
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"yes there is a over population with india and china being the biggest, india will soon be the worlds largest population very soon according to the news.
i did read the news few years back about food shortages are expected by 2050 if we do not do anything or start farming more, as more farms close each year than open.
the world needs to limit how many kids anyone can have max 2. no more.
The born population of virtually every western country average less than 2 children per couple already"
Are you saying that we're not the problem then? |
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"yes there is a over population with india and china being the biggest, india will soon be the worlds largest population very soon according to the news.
i did read the news few years back about food shortages are expected by 2050 if we do not do anything or start farming more, as more farms close each year than open.
the world needs to limit how many kids anyone can have max 2. no more.
The born population of virtually every western country average less than 2 children per couple already
Are you saying that we're not the problem then? "
As strange as it feels to say this, _hetalkingstove actually gave an accurate analysis of the causes of overpopulation. They are linked to poverty and we are not in poverty. That is correlation for you. |
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The only thing that lowered western birth rates was industrialization... The West has less population than India alone!.
To repeat that for the sake of population control for overuse of resources is pointless |
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"The only thing that lowered western birth rates was industrialization... The West has less population than India alone!.
To repeat that for the sake of population control for overuse of resources is pointless"
Fill in the blank: correlation is not c________n |
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"The only thing that lowered western birth rates was industrialization... The West has less population than India alone!.
To repeat that for the sake of population control for overuse of resources is pointless
Fill in the blank: correlation is not c________n" .
Putting women to work |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Nuclear war wouldn't be so bad, get rid of all us parasites in a few years, the planet would only take a few hundred years to recover back to its true beauty |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nuclear war wouldn't be so bad, get rid of all us parasites in a few years, the planet would only take a few hundred years to recover back to its true beauty " .
Tis true |
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
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"Do you think there are simply too many people on the planet and that we are screwing the planet and other life up?? . If you knew you would survive would you accept the depopulation agenda ??"
Yes, there are too many people, and yes, I would accept a depopulation agenda, but regardless of whether I would survive or not. I would take my chances, just like everyone else.
We value human life far too highly. We are the only form of life that there is too much of. To all of the other living things on this planet, we are vermin, and should be exterminated as a matter of great urgency.
We have the technology to live permanently underground, and leave the surface to Mother Nature. All we need on the surface is the solar microwave receivers, and the launch facilities for the satellite maintenance vehicles.
The Chinese are our only hope for any kind of future because they are not ruled by elected liars, cheats and thieves.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Or we just need a global disease that makes all humans infertile, problem solved " .
That's already happening in the West!.
Were overcoming it with technology which will cause unexpected problems that we'll overcome with more technology!.
It's a predicament not a problem |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wonder if anyone can bring themselves to praise the Chinese for actually having the balls to do something about the problem? " .
Machine gunning bankers and journalists... Hell yeah, I've been advocating it for years |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Do you think there are simply too many people on the planet and that we are screwing the planet and other life up?? . If you knew you would survive would you accept the depopulation agenda ??" Yes everytime
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We need a new plague.
head over to Africa, the Plague has started up again.
What are you talking about?" .
Usually the plague means bubonic plague, like I said, it never really went away |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We need a new plague.
head over to Africa, the Plague has started up again.
What are you talking about?.
Usually the plague means bubonic plague, like I said, it never really went away"
i thought they meant HIV...which has never gone away either...thats why i asked...really odd thing to say |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating "
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be |
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"We need a new plague.
head over to Africa, the Plague has started up again.
What are you talking about?.
Usually the plague means bubonic plague, like I said, it never really went away
i thought they meant HIV...which has never gone away either...thats why i asked...really odd thing to say" .
As plagues go, it's a pretty shit one ... Doesn't kill quick enough, doesn't spread very easy, the virus itself is pretty crap at mutation meaning within 1000 years everybody would be immune to it anyhow |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be" .
I think the world might actually be better off |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be"
YouTube
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing " .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking "
Lol wanking in short population control lol.
It's too complex to explain. When you've finished your wank take an hour and watch it you'll find it very interesting viewing im sure as you seem an intellectual guy. |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing "
Its ok to post links to youtube vids. |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing
Its ok to post links to youtube vids. "
I tried couldn't work out how to do it on my phone.
I'll have a look and try to send link |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking
Lol wanking in short population control lol.
It's too complex to explain. When you've finished your wank take an hour and watch it you'll find it very interesting viewing im sure as you seem an intellectual guy."
Nah he just uses long words when he's d*unk, a trick he stole from Russell Brand |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking
Lol wanking in short population control lol.
It's too complex to explain. When you've finished your wank take an hour and watch it you'll find it very interesting viewing im sure as you seem an intellectual guy.
Nah he just uses long words when he's d*unk, a trick he stole from Russell Brand"
Lol cool
Anyway can't find out how to attach link but it's Hans rosling explaing facts about population.
I watched it years back and it's very informative and if yoyr worried about overpopulation it will put you at ease lol.
It's really good to watch. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
YouTube
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking
Lol wanking in short population control lol.
It's too complex to explain. When you've finished your wank take an hour and watch it you'll find it very interesting viewing im sure as you seem an intellectual guy.
Nah he just uses long words when he's d*unk, a trick he stole from Russell Brand" .
d*unk d*unk....I think you meant dipsomaniac |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm sure I'd read that Germanys population is on a decrease hence merkels logic of open door policy for the migrants.
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There lies the problem.
You could increase the population in Africa alot without making huge dents in resources.
However if the third world used the same amount of resources as the West you'd need to half the population of the earth at least and which comes first, depopulation from prosperity or the need for the resources to get the third world out of poverty?..
I don't deny it's not impossible to grow the population to 11 billon, I just think it's highly unlikely with a current system of consumerism |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The extinction rate is estimated at 5000 times the "background" rate..... That's what a statistician would call "alot" and a conservation biologist would call a problem. |
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We're damaging the planet, though it doesn't take overpopulation for us to do this. Having fewer people would be a great thing but how it's done is another matter. I'd not like to be part of a cull.
But drastically altering our impact upon the world and all life is a seriously good move. Global warming will force major changes upon us, if nothing else. I have concerns for the vast inequalities amongst people, increased AI and technology forcing massive unemployment and povert too. |
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"Haven't read the rest of the comments, but one main problem that the majority of the current population have is selfishness. They think about now and not the future, so refuse to or can't be bothered to do certain things as it isn't impacting them significantly right now, for example: recycle, be energy efficient, less water, fair trade (a few to mention) and many more. If people could see how not thinking of the planet could impact it, I doubt the majority would even care as its not actually happening to them now!" ^ That's about right I'd say |
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Fact of the matter is simple . As much as us Westerners talk the talk , we simply don't give a shit and turn a blind eye to the problem . A cull would be good . But then will humans learn from it . Somehow I doubt it |
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"We need a new plague."
Can we use the old one, it worked quite well.
Nature does find a way, just as RareTouch (above) mentioned, it will balance itself out, the Earth has much more patience than we have. Our life is short.
We consume and the people who can make changes, don't. |
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"Fact of the matter is simple . As much as us Westerners talk the talk , we simply don't give a shit and turn a blind eye to the problem . A cull would be good . But then will humans learn from it . Somehow I doubt it "
Surely the western world extrapolate the problem by helping areas of the world that can only support a small population have an artificially high population? |
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"We should eat all the old people just like in that film with Charlton Heston.
Ben Hur I think it was."
Soylent Green..... how do you know we don’t already? |
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"Do you think there are simply too many people on the planet and that we are screwing the planet and other life up?? . If you knew you would survive would you accept the depopulation agenda ??
Yes, there are too many people, and yes, I would accept a depopulation agenda, but regardless of whether I would survive or not. I would take my chances, just like everyone else.
We value human life far too highly. We are the only form of life that there is too much of. To all of the other living things on this planet, we are vermin, and should be exterminated as a matter of great urgency.
We have the technology to live permanently underground, and leave the surface to Mother Nature. All we need on the surface is the solar microwave receivers, and the launch facilities for the satellite maintenance vehicles.
The Chinese are our only hope for any kind of future because they are not ruled by elected liars, cheats and thieves.
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Erm.....food? Water? Kinda might need the surface For That? |
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At the end of one TV debate about the damage humans do to the world one scientist said "We are not saving the planet. The planet will survive just fine whatever we do. We are trying to save ourselves by keeping the planet habitable for humans." I think with the likes of Trump running things we will not succeed. |
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"Fact of the matter is simple . As much as us Westerners talk the talk , we simply don't give a shit and turn a blind eye to the problem . A cull would be good . But then will humans learn from it . Somehow I doubt it
Surely the western world extrapolate the problem by helping areas of the world that can only support a small population have an artificially high population?" .
Crop yields have been falling for a decade worldwide.
Fresh water is beginning to become a scarcity in many parts of the world.
Flying insect levels are down by 70% , bees that pollinate all crops worldwide are dwindling, sea ice in the Arctic is disappearing at a truly alarming rate, glaciers worldwide are in retreat (a billion people live off glacier run off alone).
Sea levels are going to rise and and half the world's population live right next to it.. To imagine were in anything but decline is some sort of delusion |
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By *ait88Man
over a year ago
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We have the technology to live permanently underground, and leave the surface to Mother Nature. All we need on the surface is the solar microwave receivers, and the launch facilities for the satellite maintenance vehicles.
Erm.....food? Water? Kinda might need the surface For That?"
Food is no problem, given sufficient energy - Google "Biosphere 2".
The best energy source would be space-based solar power - Google "SBSP".
Water is not a problem - Google "aquifer" and "water-table".
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"Fact of the matter is simple . As much as us Westerners talk the talk , we simply don't give a shit and turn a blind eye to the problem . A cull would be good . But then will humans learn from it . Somehow I doubt it
Surely the western world extrapolate the problem by helping areas of the world that can only support a small population have an artificially high population?.
Crop yields have been falling for a decade worldwide.
Fresh water is beginning to become a scarcity in many parts of the world.
Flying insect levels are down by 70% , bees that pollinate all crops worldwide are dwindling, sea ice in the Arctic is disappearing at a truly alarming rate, glaciers worldwide are in retreat (a billion people live off glacier run off alone).
Sea levels are going to rise and and half the world's population live right next to it.. To imagine were in anything but decline is some sort of delusion" ^ Spot on !! |
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"Maybe we should have a world lottery.
Send a ticket out to everyone, have a once monthly draw and if your numbers don't come up, then your numbers up
Joke BTW" I'm sure that happened in a film . Just can't remember which one |
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"We need a new plague.
Or The Purge "
Plague is better, the purge only works to keep the rich rich and to kill off the poor and homeless
And the people most of us would want to kill (polaticians) have a tendancy to be exempt from such things |
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"Maybe we should have a world lottery.
Send a ticket out to everyone, have a once monthly draw and if your numbers don't come up, then your numbers up
Joke BTW I'm sure that happened in a film . Just can't remember which one " .
It was the film with Ewan McGregor where they grew you for body parts |
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"Maybe we should have a world lottery.
Send a ticket out to everyone, have a once monthly draw and if your numbers don't come up, then your numbers up
Joke BTW I'm sure that happened in a film . Just can't remember which one .
It was the film with Ewan McGregor where they grew you for body parts "
The Island |
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"Fact of the matter is simple . As much as us Westerners talk the talk , we simply don't give a shit and turn a blind eye to the problem . A cull would be good . But then will humans learn from it . Somehow I doubt it
Surely the western world extrapolate the problem by helping areas of the world that can only support a small population have an artificially high population?.
Crop yields have been falling for a decade worldwide.
Fresh water is beginning to become a scarcity in many parts of the world.
Flying insect levels are down by 70% , bees that pollinate all crops worldwide are dwindling, sea ice in the Arctic is disappearing at a truly alarming rate, glaciers worldwide are in retreat (a billion people live off glacier run off alone).
Sea levels are going to rise and and half the world's population live right next to it.. To imagine were in anything but decline is some sort of delusion"
It would be a real shame if London became uninhabitable.... |
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"Fact of the matter is simple . As much as us Westerners talk the talk , we simply don't give a shit and turn a blind eye to the problem . A cull would be good . But then will humans learn from it . Somehow I doubt it
Surely the western world extrapolate the problem by helping areas of the world that can only support a small population have an artificially high population?.
Crop yields have been falling for a decade worldwide.
Fresh water is beginning to become a scarcity in many parts of the world.
Flying insect levels are down by 70% , bees that pollinate all crops worldwide are dwindling, sea ice in the Arctic is disappearing at a truly alarming rate, glaciers worldwide are in retreat (a billion people live off glacier run off alone).
Sea levels are going to rise and and half the world's population live right next to it.. To imagine were in anything but decline is some sort of delusion
It would be a real shame if London became uninhabitable...."
Did you miss the n't off the word would??
Couldn't think of a better place to get rid of first |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking
Lol wanking in short population control lol.
It's too complex to explain. When you've finished your wank take an hour and watch it you'll find it very interesting viewing im sure as you seem an intellectual guy.
Nah he just uses long words when he's d*unk, a trick he stole from Russell Brand"
I'd love to cull Russell Brand if this were to become my decision |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking
Lol wanking in short population control lol.
It's too complex to explain. When you've finished your wank take an hour and watch it you'll find it very interesting viewing im sure as you seem an intellectual guy.
Nah he just uses long words when he's d*unk, a trick he stole from Russell Brand
I'd love to cull Russell Brand if this were to become my decision " And throw Lily Allen in the incinerator with him lol |
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"Statistically the population will max out at 11 billion and stay at that so don't worry folks it's all cool and we can carry on mating
Have you seen idiocracy? I'm more worried about the type of people the extra 4 billion will be
YouTube
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don't panic the truth about the population.
Very interesting viewing .
Give us the jist of it,I have constraints due to wanking
Lol wanking in short population control lol.
It's too complex to explain. When you've finished your wank take an hour and watch it you'll find it very interesting viewing im sure as you seem an intellectual guy.
Nah he just uses long words when he's d*unk, a trick he stole from Russell Brand
I'd love to cull Russell Brand if this were to become my decision And throw Lily Allen in the incinerator with him lol "
Cockney slaughter is it |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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The solution to overpopulation of the planet is to turn gay.
We ought to be encouraging every country in the world to allow people to be themselves.
I'm pretty sure the rate of babies being born might become more sustainable.
Just a thought.
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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"2 world wars certainly depopulated the planet and other conflicts before and after and I dare say more in the future, I wouldn't worry too much about it, man is quite capable of destroying ourselves and depopulation. Not the best outlook on life but it is as they say, life"
Spanish Flu in 1918 killed many times more than both world wars added together. |
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"The solution to overpopulation of the planet is to turn gay.
We ought to be encouraging every country in the world to allow people to be themselves.
I'm pretty sure the rate of babies being born might become more sustainable.
Just a thought.
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There aren't really many babies being born outside of Africa. There is no European Union country that averages 2 babies per woman. We need to think of more creative measures like charging people £10 a day for air and suffocating them if they can't pay. |
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The problem is in third world countries .
We try to educate them , give them contraception , yet they still churn out child after a child after child . So we go out there , give them clean water , supplies , food , medicine , hospitals , schools and still they keep going . Less infant mortality , better conditions , happier people , more and more kids .
Live aid started the whole ‘ let’s help the starving people ‘ , but perhaps it was natures way of stemming the overgrowth of the population in areas that couldn’t sustain it . Harsh ? Yes , very harsh , but probably true .
Every civilized country is producing less children .
Go figure ...... |
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By *ngelina4uWoman
over a year ago
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Sure there is over population and its getting worse! Blame the government for promoting healthy living people used to live life hard drink to excess, smoke tabs and be happy doing so now they end up living longer and getting dementia it does make you wonder if its worth it. |
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"The problem is in third world countries .
We try to educate them , give them contraception , yet they still churn out child after a child after child . So we go out there , give them clean water , supplies , food , medicine , hospitals , schools and still they keep going . Less infant mortality , better conditions , happier people , more and more kids .
Live aid started the whole ‘ let’s help the starving people ‘ , but perhaps it was natures way of stemming the overgrowth of the population in areas that couldn’t sustain it . Harsh ? Yes , very harsh , but probably true .
Every civilized country is producing less children .
Go figure ......"
Is this really true though or what we are led to believe? Africa was a very rich nation before we set our sights on it... India the same... |
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Africa is not poor, we are stealing its wealth
NICK DEARDEN
Africa is poor, but we can try to help its people. It’s a simple statement, repeated through a thousand images, newspaper stories and charity appeals each year, so that it takes on the weight of truth. When we read it, we reinforce assumptions and stories about Africa that we’ve heard throughout our lives.
Try something different. Africa is rich, but we steal its wealth.
If African countries are to benefit from foreign investment, they must be allowed to – even helped to – legally regulate that investment and the corporations that often bring it.
That’s the essence of a report (pdf) from several campaign groups released today. Based on a set of new figures, it finds that sub-Saharan Africa is a net creditor to the rest of the world to the tune of more than $41bn. Sure, there’s money going in: around $161bn a year in the form of loans, remittances (those working outside Africa and sending money back home), and aid.
But there’s also $203bn leaving the continent. Some of this is direct, such as $68bn in mainly dodged taxes. Essentially multinational corporations “steal” much of this – legally – by pretending they are really generating their wealth in tax havens. These so-called “illicit financial flows” amount to around 6.1 percent of the continent’s entire gross domestic product (GDP) – or three times what Africa receives in aid. |
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Africa is not poor, we are stealing its wealth
NICK DEARDEN
Africa is poor, but we can try to help its people. It’s a simple statement, repeated through a thousand images, newspaper stories and charity appeals each year, so that it takes on the weight of truth. When we read it, we reinforce assumptions and stories about Africa that we’ve heard throughout our lives.
Try something different. Africa is rich, but we steal its wealth.
If African countries are to benefit from foreign investment, they must be allowed to – even helped to – legally regulate that investment and the corporations that often bring it.
That’s the essence of a report (pdf) from several campaign groups released today. Based on a set of new figures, it finds that sub-Saharan Africa is a net creditor to the rest of the world to the tune of more than $41bn. Sure, there’s money going in: around $161bn a year in the form of loans, remittances (those working outside Africa and sending money back home), and aid.
But there’s also $203bn leaving the continent. Some of this is direct, such as $68bn in mainly dodged taxes. Essentially multinational corporations “steal” much of this – legally – by pretending they are really generating their wealth in tax havens. These so-called “illicit financial flows” amount to around 6.1 percent of the continent’s entire gross domestic product (GDP) – or three times what Africa receives in aid."
Well that might sound convincing to someone who doesn't understand economics. He's a fun fact: in 1500, before we'd set our sights on it, the GDP per head of India was $550. What was the UKs? |
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"The problem is in third world countries .
We try to educate them , give them contraception , yet they still churn out child after a child after child . So we go out there , give them clean water , supplies , food , medicine , hospitals , schools and still they keep going . Less infant mortality , better conditions , happier people , more and more kids .
Live aid started the whole ‘ let’s help the starving people ‘ , but perhaps it was natures way of stemming the overgrowth of the population in areas that couldn’t sustain it . Harsh ? Yes , very harsh , but probably true .
Every civilized country is producing less children .
Go figure ......"
An interesting point though not very ethical. Facts can't be denied though and the population there is rapidly expanding. |
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The planet has time on its side. Whatever we do it will survive and regenerate as it will be impossible to kill all life off. If we wipe ourselves out it will still start in a more advance stage life wise than it did all those billions of years ago. It will still be here in 10, 20, 30 thousand years and there will still be life on it in some form.
Humans also have the ability to sustain much higher populations than we do today if we wish. What will be destroyed is nature as we know it today which is what we are all sentimental about. |
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Yeah there are only one or two countries showing internal growth in the EU, one is Ireland and it has a tiny population so any growth is minuscule.
They told us we needed to slow down, we slowed down. Then they tell us we are not growing fast enough so need to accept people from out of control countries. Its a bit of a farce. |
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"Yeah there are only one or two countries showing internal growth in the EU, one is Ireland and it has a tiny population so any growth is minuscule.
They told us we needed to slow down, we slowed down. Then they tell us we are not growing fast enough so need to accept people from out of control countries. Its a bit of a farce."
It's certainly hurting the economies of Russia and Japan at present. |
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"The planet has time on its side. Whatever we do it will survive and regenerate as it will be impossible to kill all life off. If we wipe ourselves out it will still start in a more advance stage life wise than it did all those billions of years ago. It will still be here in 10, 20, 30 thousand years and there will still be life on it in some form.
Humans also have the ability to sustain much higher populations than we do today if we wish. What will be destroyed is nature as we know it today which is what we are all sentimental about."
How can we possibly know this? |
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over a year ago
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"Interesting point of note, there are more humans alive today than have ever died. Ever! Good point "
Only if you believe in false statistics, when the population is calculated from "Adam & Eve" forwards the error soon becomes apparent |
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