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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Been having a discussion with my mother earlier about xmas dinner. Last year she bought this big fuck off turkey crown from the pub and most of it went to waste. This year I said why don't we just have a massive chicken and pork with crackling and seems that I do the cooking anyway and she just buys the food, who is in the right?
My sister doesn't like turkey either that much.
Why is it turkey on xmas anyway? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's meant to be a celebratory meal. An indulgent and decadent feast to share with our families. So of course we have to have turkey, the driest meat known to man. It's not good enough for the rest of the year but let's all force it down when we are meant to be enjoying it most. Chicken any day for me. |
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"We have Duck. Sit it directly on the shelf and the fat drips onto the potatoes below making roast potatoes."
I love it when the juice is left to drip on my spuds. |
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By *s_macWoman
over a year ago
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?"
I think the one buying gets to make the decision.
We’re having our Christmas dinner on Christmas Eve as the kids are going to their Dad’s on Christmas morning. I’m going to do a leg of lamb, I’m not bothered about turkey |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have Duck. Sit it directly on the shelf and the fat drips onto the potatoes below making roast potatoes.
That sounds awesome!!"
We sat down last year, put the TV on and Jamie Oliver was on. He did that with a Goose, so we did it with a Duck and it worked! |
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?
I think the one buying gets to make the decision.
We’re having our Christmas dinner on Christmas Eve as the kids are going to their Dad’s on Christmas morning. I’m going to do a leg of lamb, I’m not bothered about turkey"
Christmas dinner should be consensual. Maybe compromise and have a nice nut roast ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Probably up to her if she's buying. Seems a waste if there's lots of leftovers binned. Get whatever the family prefer. Sod tradition.
I get just enough turkey to do for xmas dinner and boxing day. No waste.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I've perfected pork and more importantly the crackling so pork is definitely going to be involved.
If I tell her she can just spend 12 quid on pork and chicken instead of £40 on a turkey and she can buy herself a bottle of mothers ruin with the change. |
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"Been having a discussion with my mother earlier about xmas dinner. Last year she bought this big fuck off turkey crown from the pub and most of it went to waste. This year I said why don't we just have a massive chicken and pork with crackling and seems that I do the cooking anyway and she just buys the food, who is in the right?
My sister doesn't like turkey either that much.
Why is it turkey on xmas anyway?"
Turkey is American. British tradition is GOOSE. Turkey took over when it was mass produced and became cheaper than goose. I prefer goose but there is not as much meat on them as there is on a purpose bred turkey.
This year im having SALMON. It will be a side of salmon cooked in clementine and vodka along with some spices and good veg.
Time to give hard labour the elbow Wilksey.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Turkey. How is this even a question? 
Turkey is the best meat. End of discussion.
(In reality you should just do what the most people at dinner would like. But I wouldn't go to a Christmas dinner that didn't serve Turkey. Even though I'm a veggie. I like to live the meal vicariously.) |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Turkey. How is this even a question?
Turkey is the best meat. End of discussion.
(In reality you should just do what the most people at dinner would like. But I wouldn't go to a Christmas dinner that didn't serve Turkey. Even though I'm a veggie. I like to live the meal vicariously.) "
Isn't turkey traditionally for Thanksgiving? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Turkey. How is this even a question?
Turkey is the best meat. End of discussion.
(In reality you should just do what the most people at dinner would like. But I wouldn't go to a Christmas dinner that didn't serve Turkey. Even though I'm a veggie. I like to live the meal vicariously.)
Isn't turkey traditionally for Thanksgiving? "
For Thanksgiving my family always made Turkey and Lamb (mostly because my mother and a few others didn't like Turkey much).
On Christmas, Turkey is the main meat also. But ham was always on the table as well. Honey roasted, usually. Christmas eve was traditionally Roast Beef and pop-overs.
I think most Americans have Turkey on Thanksgiving, but Turkey AND some other meat on Christmas. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Turkey. How is this even a question?
Turkey is the best meat. End of discussion.
(In reality you should just do what the most people at dinner would like. But I wouldn't go to a Christmas dinner that didn't serve Turkey. Even though I'm a veggie. I like to live the meal vicariously.)
Isn't turkey traditionally for Thanksgiving?
For Thanksgiving my family always made Turkey and Lamb (mostly because my mother and a few others didn't like Turkey much).
On Christmas, Turkey is the main meat also. But ham was always on the table as well. Honey roasted, usually. Christmas eve was traditionally Roast Beef and pop-overs.
I think most Americans have Turkey on Thanksgiving, but Turkey AND some other meat on Christmas. "
Oh, I should add that's just in my experience. I think Marc's family has Chinese food on Christmas  |
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My turkey is never dry. Get a fresh bronze turkey, not frozen, they're more expensive but I'm not buying one every week.
And the best thing is the leftovers!! I love turkey sandwiches for days afterwards. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Turkey. How is this even a question?
Turkey is the best meat. End of discussion.
(In reality you should just do what the most people at dinner would like. But I wouldn't go to a Christmas dinner that didn't serve Turkey. Even though I'm a veggie. I like to live the meal vicariously.)
Isn't turkey traditionally for Thanksgiving?
For Thanksgiving my family always made Turkey and Lamb (mostly because my mother and a few others didn't like Turkey much).
On Christmas, Turkey is the main meat also. But ham was always on the table as well. Honey roasted, usually. Christmas eve was traditionally Roast Beef and pop-overs.
I think most Americans have Turkey on Thanksgiving, but Turkey AND some other meat on Christmas.
Oh, I should add that's just in my experience. I think Marc's family has Chinese food on Christmas "
I tried to phrase it carefully. I wasn't inferring that ALL Americans are the same.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Had an almost vegetarian Xmas dinner last year .... mainly thanks to my wife who thought she had turned the oven on to cook the bloody big bird at 9am only to find at 1pm that all she done had turned the oven light on !
Billy bear sausage meat and all the trimmings doesn't have the same appeal. |
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"My turkey is never dry. Get a fresh bronze turkey, not frozen, they're more expensive but I'm not buying one every week.
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Yup, I find the same. And cold turkey with stuffing and baked spuds....hmmmm!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have Duck. Sit it directly on the shelf and the fat drips onto the potatoes below making roast potatoes."
This is how I cook my duck
The potatoes taste awesome  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Had partridge last year, wrapped in streaky smoked bacon but when having turkey I carefully cook it the day before then reheat it when roasting the potatoes by placing slices of breast inside a tin foil parcel with butter and wine, bootiful and moist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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We have turkey, pork with crackling and lamb. We have a lot of people to feed Christmas day and Boxing day. Saying that, we still had a lot of turkey left last year. It gets given to four dogs, so it's not really wasted.
It's not Christmas dinner without turkey, pigs in blankets and Brussel sprouts. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?"
It should be a 'joint' decision!
We're just going to have a big stuffed chicken this year.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?"
I think it should be a joint decision, compromise to be had somewhere along the way.
Isnt it more about being together than the food?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?
I think it should be a joint decision, compromise to be had somewhere along the way.
Isnt it more about being together than the food?!"
Roast joint. They've got beef, they should have beef. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Quorn chicken or similar .
Animals get a shit awful deal from humans so i extend peace and goodwill to them"
Sorry, just to add peace and goodwill to humans? Nah, fuck em.! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We have Duck. Sit it directly on the shelf and the fat drips onto the potatoes below making roast potatoes.
This is how I cook my duck
The potatoes taste awesome "
Yummy |
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"Been having a discussion with my mother earlier about xmas dinner. Last year she bought this big fuck off turkey crown from the pub and most of it went to waste. This year I said why don't we just have a massive chicken and pork with crackling and seems that I do the cooking anyway and she just buys the food, who is in the right?
My sister doesn't like turkey either that much.
Why is it turkey on xmas anyway?"
Book a table at a decent hotel, no cooking, good food and no washing up. |
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?"
Its a hard one. I do the cooking but someone else buys the turkey. If i had my way turkey would not be on the table  |
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"It's meant to be a celebratory meal. An indulgent and decadent feast to share with our families. So of course we have to have turkey, the driest meat known to man. It's not good enough for the rest of the year but let's all force it down when we are meant to be enjoying it most. Chicken any day for me. "
It's only dry if you're a shit cook. Never had a dry turkey, ever! |
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Why doesn't she buy a smaller turkey crown and another joint of meat. Who cooks it is irrelevant really. It's a meal where families get together and share good times. Bickering about who does what and who has more rights over this or that is not what it's all about. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Couldn't give two hoots, it's just another day for me, so I might knock up some beans on toast if the JD hasn't got the better of me "
Now you've given me a quandary, beans on toast or the planned fish and chips? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?"
I guess your mum can buy what she likes but if you refuse to cook it there won't be any Christmas dinner.
If you're prepared to put the work in... I'd go with what the chef recommends. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why doesn't she buy a smaller turkey crown and another joint of meat. Who cooks it is irrelevant really. It's a meal where families get together and share good times. Bickering about who does what and who has more rights over this or that is not what it's all about. "
I disagree.
Christmas is all about customs and traditions. Bickering is a very important part of the festivities for some people |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why doesn't she buy a smaller turkey crown and another joint of meat. Who cooks it is irrelevant really. It's a meal where families get together and share good times. Bickering about who does what and who has more rights over this or that is not what it's all about. "
And this is exactly why I avoid Christmas lunch like the plague. It gets almost political in its level of aggro. It's the same every single year, the same people arguing over the same silly shit. If I choose to indulge in a Christmas lunch, myself and Mrs N go to the pub alone. Letting someone else cook and clean up, while watching others families argue in the restaurant is so much more fun. |
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I’m stumped this year, cooking for a right fussy lot, including 4 old people.
I’ve never cooked turkey as my mum always cooked it even when I hosted Christmas dinner so I’m a bit terrified but I know the oldies will want turkey.
Considered one of those 3 bird roads but I know at least one person coming who doesn’t eat duck.
I want the food to be perfect because we lost our mum this year and we all spent last year with her.
Would normally do turkey and ham, but want to do ham as the starter as Mum used to do prawn cocktail (half of the people don’t eat it!) so I want to avoid that and one person is so fussy won’t eat cheese or pate or melon.
So what I’ll say is OP is just be thankful you have those people around you to argue over what meat you are having, I would love my mum to be here to help me choose
I think I may need to get a chef in  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Chicken all the way!
Turkey is too dry, and more bland, as it doesn’t absorb the seasoning as well as chicken.
Only eat turkey cause it’s tradition at Christmas. Or if you’re a health nut who muscle trains and wants lean protein. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m stumped this year, cooking for a right fussy lot, including 4 old people.
I’ve never cooked turkey as my mum always cooked it even when I hosted Christmas dinner so I’m a bit terrified but I know the oldies will want turkey.
Considered one of those 3 bird roads but I know at least one person coming who doesn’t eat duck.
I want the food to be perfect because we lost our mum this year and we all spent last year with her.
Would normally do turkey and ham, but want to do ham as the starter as Mum used to do prawn cocktail (half of the people don’t eat it!) so I want to avoid that and one person is so fussy won’t eat cheese or pate or melon.
So what I’ll say is OP is just be thankful you have those people around you to argue over what meat you are having, I would love my mum to be here to help me choose
I think I may need to get a chef in "
Don't overthink it or try to strive for perfection. It doesn't exist. You do what you can within the boundaries of your skills as a cook and it'll turn out fine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I’m stumped this year, cooking for a right fussy lot, including 4 old people.
I’ve never cooked turkey as my mum always cooked it even when I hosted Christmas dinner so I’m a bit terrified but I know the oldies will want turkey.
Considered one of those 3 bird roads but I know at least one person coming who doesn’t eat duck.
I want the food to be perfect because we lost our mum this year and we all spent last year with her.
Would normally do turkey and ham, but want to do ham as the starter as Mum used to do prawn cocktail (half of the people don’t eat it!) so I want to avoid that and one person is so fussy won’t eat cheese or pate or melon.
So what I’ll say is OP is just be thankful you have those people around you to argue over what meat you are having, I would love my mum to be here to help me choose
I think I may need to get a chef in
Don't overthink it or try to strive for perfection. It doesn't exist. You do what you can within the boundaries of your skills as a cook and it'll turn out fine. "
The thing is I think I’m a crap cook I can do great roast postatoes but that’s it
Desert will be good though- always where I excel x |
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"I’m stumped this year, cooking for a right fussy lot, including 4 old people.
I’ve never cooked turkey as my mum always cooked it even when I hosted Christmas dinner so I’m a bit terrified but I know the oldies will want turkey.
Considered one of those 3 bird roads but I know at least one person coming who doesn’t eat duck.
I want the food to be perfect because we lost our mum this year and we all spent last year with her.
Would normally do turkey and ham, but want to do ham as the starter as Mum used to do prawn cocktail (half of the people don’t eat it!) so I want to avoid that and one person is so fussy won’t eat cheese or pate or melon.
So what I’ll say is OP is just be thankful you have those people around you to argue over what meat you are having, I would love my mum to be here to help me choose
I think I may need to get a chef in "
I did a three bird roast- It was odd. Just saying |
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"I’m stumped this year, cooking for a right fussy lot, including 4 old people.
I’ve never cooked turkey as my mum always cooked it even when I hosted Christmas dinner so I’m a bit terrified but I know the oldies will want turkey.
Considered one of those 3 bird roads but I know at least one person coming who doesn’t eat duck.
I want the food to be perfect because we lost our mum this year and we all spent last year with her.
Would normally do turkey and ham, but want to do ham as the starter as Mum used to do prawn cocktail (half of the people don’t eat it!) so I want to avoid that and one person is so fussy won’t eat cheese or pate or melon.
So what I’ll say is OP is just be thankful you have those people around you to argue over what meat you are having, I would love my mum to be here to help me choose
I think I may need to get a chef in
Don't overthink it or try to strive for perfection. It doesn't exist. You do what you can within the boundaries of your skills as a cook and it'll turn out fine.
The thing is I think I’m a crap cook I can do great roast postatoes but that’s it
Desert will be good though- always where I excel x "
Get yourself an episode of 'cook along with Gordon' downloaded and you won't go far wrong. |
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"Chicken all the way!
Turkey is too dry, and more bland, as it doesn’t absorb the seasoning as well as chicken.
Only eat turkey cause it’s tradition at Christmas. Or if you’re a health nut who muscle trains and wants lean protein. "
Never eaten a dry turkey. People just dont know how to cook it (neither do I BTW.... Dad always cooks ours ) |
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"I’m stumped this year, cooking for a right fussy lot, including 4 old people.
I’ve never cooked turkey as my mum always cooked it even when I hosted Christmas dinner so I’m a bit terrified but I know the oldies will want turkey.
Considered one of those 3 bird roads but I know at least one person coming who doesn’t eat duck.
I want the food to be perfect because we lost our mum this year and we all spent last year with her.
Would normally do turkey and ham, but want to do ham as the starter as Mum used to do prawn cocktail (half of the people don’t eat it!) so I want to avoid that and one person is so fussy won’t eat cheese or pate or melon.
So what I’ll say is OP is just be thankful you have those people around you to argue over what meat you are having, I would love my mum to be here to help me choose
I think I may need to get a chef in
Don't overthink it or try to strive for perfection. It doesn't exist. You do what you can within the boundaries of your skills as a cook and it'll turn out fine.
The thing is I think I’m a crap cook I can do great roast postatoes but that’s it
Desert will be good though- always where I excel x "
You can't have everything in the world, what you lack in cooking skills, you make up for in other areas. |
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"Chicken all the way!
Turkey is too dry, and more bland, as it doesn’t absorb the seasoning as well as chicken.
Only eat turkey cause it’s tradition at Christmas. Or if you’re a health nut who muscle trains and wants lean protein.
Never eaten a dry turkey. People just dont know how to cook it (neither do I BTW.... Dad always cooks ours ) "
Pftt! You don’t know me!!! I’m a really good cook... and I don’t judge that by what people say... I judge that by if they go back for seconds... and thirds!! Which always happens!
So there! :P |
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"Chicken all the way!
Turkey is too dry, and more bland, as it doesn’t absorb the seasoning as well as chicken.
Only eat turkey cause it’s tradition at Christmas. Or if you’re a health nut who muscle trains and wants lean protein.
Never eaten a dry turkey. People just dont know how to cook it (neither do I BTW.... Dad always cooks ours )
Pftt! You don’t know me!!! I’m a really good cook... and I don’t judge that by what people say... I judge that by if they go back for seconds... and thirds!! Which always happens!
So there! :P "
Pfffffft only one way to find out. Damn this could have been a very tasty cooking battle.
Yikes! Not long for Christmas now. That time of the year already. Comes way too quick! |
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"Booking an Indian buffet for Xmas dinner for a change
No more cooking and washing up
Yeahhhh"
Sounds great! The last couple of years I've just had a huge seafood feast for Xmas dinner. It's still 'different', still luxurious, delicious and indulgent but involves barely any prep and doesn't sit as heavily in your stomach afterwards. I do love a traditional turkey dinner but the indigestion and the stress outweighs the attraction to be honest. |
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Can't stand turkey! No flavour at all and dry.
And everyone buys a huge one to feed an army, when they're only cooking for a few, and essentially pay £40 or more to have a fridge of dry leftovers that they're only doing because that's what everyone does at xmas.
Spend less than half on a nice duck or chicken and spend the rest on yourself. |
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"Going with the chicken and pork with crackling, Jesus my crackling is good, it's all in the dabbing and salting.
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It wasn’t until about a year ago I managed decent crackling, once you get it right hmmmmm finger licking good |
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"But who has more right over the meat, me that cooks and prepares everything or the one buying the food?"
Obviously the one buying the shopping gets first pick. I am buying and cooking so they will get rib of beef and like it... also there will be nobody but me allowed in the house boxing day so I will have vodka for breakfast. And ham egg and chips for lunch, so leftovers are not permitted. |
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