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"Was it ever?" Id say leading the world in the industrial revolution was pretty great,that's one reason. Just my opinion. | |||
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"Was it ever?" Yes it was...and no it's not because of that very attitude...wete shite. Self fulfilling prophecy? | |||
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"Was it ever? Yes it was...and no it's not because of that very attitude...wete shite. Self fulfilling prophecy?" I just threw another question in pal.. | |||
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"Was it ever? Id say leading the world in the industrial revolution was pretty great,that's one reason. Just my opinion. " Slavery and subjugation played a pretty big part in that. | |||
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"Was it ever? Id say leading the world in the industrial revolution was pretty great,that's one reason. Just my opinion. Slavery and subjugation played a pretty big part in that. " Invention and creativity more to the point. | |||
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"The country was great on the back of some very dubious ways of controlling others. It's now become a horrible place due to the selfish society prevailing more than the caring one. " | |||
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There would have been no British Empire if that were the case! | |||
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"We fought for moral reasons?
There would have been no British Empire if that were the case!"It's a quote from a film lol Admittedly with one or two minor tweaks  | |||
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"We fought for moral reasons?
There would have been no British Empire if that were the case!
It's a quote from a film lol Admittedly with one or two minor tweaks "I was thinking that's a curious collection of stats
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"Yes and no. I think it’s a mess." A good answer | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great." Great Britain did not invent slavery! | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! " It did invent being great though It’s in the name  | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! It did invent being great though It’s in the name " | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! It did invent being great though It’s in the name "What about the Great Pyramids, aren't they older? | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! It did invent being great though It’s in the name
What about the Great Pyramids, aren't they older? "You say great pyramids I say great British bake off | |||
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"There is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we’re the greatest country in the world. We’re 7th in literacy, 27th in maths, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, number 4 in labour force and number 4 in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defence spending – where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies. Now, none of this is the fault of any of us on Fab, but we, nonetheless, are without a doubt a member of the worst period generation period ever, so when you ask what makes us a great country in the world, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about anymore! It sure used to be great though. We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed laws, struck down laws – for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not on poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbours, we put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advanced, explored the universe, cured diseases and we cultivated the world’s greatest artists AND the world’s greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like heroes. We aspired to intelligence, we didn’t belittle it. It didn’t make us feel inferior. We didn’t identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn’t scare so easily. We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed… by great men and women, men and women who were revered the world over. First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one. Britain is not the greatest country in the world anymore" Your figures there are for the U.S. | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! It did invent being great though It’s in the name
What about the Great Pyramids, aren't they older?
You say great pyramids
I say great British bake off
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! " No. It just upscaled it, massively. | |||
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"I've lived in various different countries and yes still great. In particular London is the best city in the world " You are kidding right? London is a horrible excuse for a capital city | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively." Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. | |||
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"cougar prey you a [well carnt say as it would get us put on naughty step]if you dont like it here why stay here or just fuck off and take your negative comments with you .i will pay a one way ticket to any 3rthd world country of your choice.as long as you dont come back to here" Rapid escalation or what  | |||
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"cougar prey you a [well carnt say as it would get us put on naughty step]if you dont like it here why stay here or just fuck off and take your negative comments with you .i will pay a one way ticket to any 3rthd world country of your choice.as long as you dont come back to here" May be he is still here to take revenge. It is his turn to get back all the tax GREAT Britain took from his 3rd world country | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively." Nothing remotely on the scale of the Atlantic slave trade. | |||
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"Was it ever? Id say leading the world in the industrial revolution was pretty great,that's one reason. Just my opinion. " And in the development of concentration camps was another | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively." Built Bristol on the back of it | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively." Tell me another country who had so many colonies as Britain. There a difference between having a slave in one household and slaves through out the world | |||
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"cougar prey you a [well carnt say as it would get us put on naughty step]if you dont like it here why stay here or just fuck off and take your negative comments with you .i will pay a one way ticket to any 3rthd world country of your choice.as long as you dont come back to here" Read this a couple of times and still don't see the need for it. Being as you're making offers though I'll happily accept a ticket to Pemba Island. | |||
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"It's alright. Getting by. We should change the name to 'Alright Britain'." You can't change the name just like that.. We need to have yes/no election to decide that... Form orderly queue please... | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Nothing remotely on the scale of the Atlantic slave trade." Which wasn't a solely British affair. | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Nothing remotely on the scale of the Atlantic slave trade. Which wasn't a solely British affair." Oh, that's OK then. You win | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Tell me another country who had so many colonies as Britain. There a difference between having a slave in one household and slaves through out the world "A colony doesn't automatically mean slavery though. | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Nothing remotely on the scale of the Atlantic slave trade. Which wasn't a solely British affair. Oh, that's OK then. You win "Win what?  | |||
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"Clem asked is Britain still great, so to answer that I’d say yes. Why? We still have a heart, we still care and we still want everyone’s life’s to be better. Yep, we are a bit ambitious at times, but broadly I think this is a great country - could be better, but certainly better than many." What would make it better? Does it have to be better than all the others? | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great." When did Great Britain win a world cup? | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Nothing remotely on the scale of the Atlantic slave trade. Which wasn't a solely British affair. Oh, that's OK then. You win
Win what? "Whatever irrelevant point it was that you were so desperate to win. Well done | |||
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"GREAT Britain! GREAT!! The clue is in the name "I like 'meh Britain' Sums it up nicely..it's a place..a bit wet and dreary, not too bad to live in, not too brilliant either..sort of average really. | |||
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"GREAT Britain! GREAT!! The clue is in the name
I like 'meh Britain'
Sums it up nicely..it's a place..a bit wet and dreary, not too bad to live in, not too brilliant either..sort of average really. "Grey Britain | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Tell me another country who had so many colonies as Britain. There a difference between having a slave in one household and slaves through out the world "Perhaps OP you protest too much and throw arojnd unsubstantiated claims to justify your argument or rant. The slave trade precedes the British Empire by millennia. And the slave trade was never an exclusively British trade in fact most European empires and African nations traded in slavery before it was industrialised. And to suggest Britian killed billions is a ours fantasy. It takes at least two parties to enter into any conflict. Are seriously suggesting in my Britain was responsible for such deaths. For all its perceived failings Britain is still a major industrial power has created three major industrial post industrial and social revolutions thst have changed the world. It's simple if you don't like the place there are another 200 countries out there... take a look at how many people from those countries try so hard to come here... Are they all wrong in their belief in what we represent despite maybe our failing to fully achieve such ideals | |||
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"cougar prey you a [well carnt say as it would get us put on naughty step]if you dont like it here why stay here or just fuck off and take your negative comments with you .i will pay a one way ticket to any 3rthd world country of your choice.as long as you dont come back to here Read this a couple of times and still don't see the need for it. Being as you're making offers though I'll happily accept a ticket to Pemba Island." Trust me, you won't see it. You know why? Coz it doesn't exist. Methinks it was directed at your post but then some poor fella got mixed my by the "lyrics" post. Trust me, if either of you had a hue, could have been worse. As it turned out, you didn't and therefore it died a natural death. | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. When did Great Britain win a world cup?" That was long long ago ...once upon a time in the far, far away land it did happen | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Tell me another country who had so many colonies as Britain. There a difference between having a slave in one household and slaves through out the world
Perhaps OP you protest too much and throw arojnd unsubstantiated claims to justify your argument or rant.
The slave trade precedes the British Empire by millennia. And the slave trade was never an exclusively British trade in fact most European empires and African nations traded in slavery before it was industrialised.
And to suggest Britian killed billions is a ours fantasy. It takes at least two parties to enter into any conflict. Are seriously suggesting in my Britain was responsible for such deaths.
For all its perceived failings Britain is still a major industrial power has created three major industrial post industrial and social revolutions thst have changed the world.
It's simple if you don't like the place there are another 200 countries out there... take a look at how many people from those countries try so hard to come here...
Are they all wrong in their belief in what we represent despite maybe our failing to fully achieve such ideals "Fuck me, do we have to do this? | |||
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"won 1 football World Cup" That was England | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Nothing remotely on the scale of the Atlantic slave trade. Which wasn't a solely British affair. Oh, that's OK then. You win
Win what?
Whatever irrelevant point it was that you were so desperate to win.
Well done "Well I'm glad we got that cleared up then. | |||
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"Clem asked is Britain still great, so to answer that I’d say yes. Why? We still have a heart, we still care and we still want everyone’s life’s to be better. Yep, we are a bit ambitious at times, but broadly I think this is a great country - could be better, but certainly better than many. What would make it better? Does it have to be better than all the others?" It doesn’t have to be better than anyone else, but it certainly feels great to me. | |||
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"We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defence spending – where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies. " We spend more than the next 26 countries combined on defence spending? And your source for this is please? And we lead the world on the number of citizens incarcerated per capita? No we don't. I think you will find we are a long way from being world leaders on that one. | |||
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"Clem asked is Britain still great, so to answer that I’d say yes. Why? We still have a heart, we still care and we still want everyone’s life’s to be better. Yep, we are a bit ambitious at times, but broadly I think this is a great country - could be better, but certainly better than many. What would make it better? Does it have to be better than all the others? It doesn’t have to be better than anyone else, but it certainly feels great to me. " I agree | |||
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"won 1 football World Cup That was England "That was West Ham | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Tell me another country who had so many colonies as Britain. There a difference between having a slave in one household and slaves through out the world
Perhaps OP you protest too much and throw arojnd unsubstantiated claims to justify your argument or rant.
The slave trade precedes the British Empire by millennia. And the slave trade was never an exclusively British trade in fact most European empires and African nations traded in slavery before it was industrialised.
And to suggest Britian killed billions is a ours fantasy. It takes at least two parties to enter into any conflict. Are seriously suggesting in my Britain was responsible for such deaths.
For all its perceived failings Britain is still a major industrial power has created three major industrial post industrial and social revolutions thst have changed the world.
It's simple if you don't like the place there are another 200 countries out there... take a look at how many people from those countries try so hard to come here...
Are they all wrong in their belief in what we represent despite maybe our failing to fully achieve such ideals "All those people from those countries coming here just to take back what belongs to then few hundred year back...
Ya industrial revolution = global warming.
Slave is not just trading human mate, forcing someone to do against their will is also slave.. I can't come to your home as a guest and then ask you to pay me money every week simply because I am staying at your home... | |||
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"We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defence spending – where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies. We spend more than the next 26 countries combined on defence spending? And your source for this is please? And we lead the world on the number of citizens incarcerated per capita? No we don't. I think you will find we are a long way from being world leaders on that one." Already pointed out above. The stats are for the US. | |||
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"won 1 football World Cup That was England
That was West Ham "I always wondered, why on earth on major games like Olympic we participate as GB & NI and on European cup or other games we participate as individual country?
Is it because to be on first page of the medal table in olympics? | |||
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"We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defence spending – where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies. We spend more than the next 26 countries combined on defence spending? And your source for this is please? And we lead the world on the number of citizens incarcerated per capita? No we don't. I think you will find we are a long way from being world leaders on that one." I think they took the quote from an American TV show and passed it off as their own. https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs Their quote is from about 2 minutes 35 seconds into the clip. | |||
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"won 1 football World Cup That was England
That was West Ham
I always wondered, why on earth on major games like Olympic we participate as GB & NI and on European cup or other games we participate as individual country?
Is it because to be on first page of the medal table in olympics?"It's because the Scots/Welsh/Irish would never get picked for most teams  | |||
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"Was it ever? Id say leading the world in the industrial revolution was pretty great,that's one reason. Just my opinion. Slavery and subjugation played a pretty big part in that. " . We abolished slavery in 1830 I think it's ONE of the things I'm most proud about great Britain for, as not only did we abolish it but we actually died fighting for it to be abolished in other countries as well  | |||
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"Clem asked is Britain still great, so to answer that I’d say yes. Why? We still have a heart, we still care and we still want everyone’s life’s to be better. Yep, we are a bit ambitious at times, but broadly I think this is a great country - could be better, but certainly better than many. What would make it better? Does it have to be better than all the others? It doesn’t have to be better than anyone else, but it certainly feels great to me. I agree "Greatness is a feeling, an ambition, a hope. But it isn’t arrogance, it has no hubris, it recognises its own weaknesses but treats them as ‘features & idiosyncracy’s’. GB is a great place and we have a place in the world. Our history is our history, we do not need to be ashamed of it. There are things we should not repeat, nor support others doing it now but we don’t need to apologise any more than any other society does. | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great." Think the Romans probably did slaves thing before us... just saying. However as so many of its citizens have so little concept of what the great in great Britain means.... possibly a bit screwed on the education system | |||
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As for Britain being great-the adjective- no it's not. If it was ever great, the people who made it so are long in the ground, or almost there.
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain." . The world ran for 5000 years on slaves and the slave trade, the very word slave comes from Slav, the go to slave it was sadly a way of life, all your actually saying is that Britain did it better than everybody else and I agree, we were rather good at it!. | |||
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"Unless it's renamed something else it will always be Great Britain. A geography teacher explained what the difference between Great Britain, The British Isles and The United Kingdom was. I can't remember now
As for Britain being great-the adjective- no it's not. If it was ever great, the people who made it so are long in the ground, or almost there.
People complain about how we made so much money from exploiting other countries, but don't mind living off it. "Speak for yourself
I think the notion that only people in the past were great is bollocks too.
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain.. The world ran for 5000 years on slaves and the slave trade, the very word slave comes from Slav, the go to slave it was sadly a way of life, all your actually saying is that Britain did it better than everybody else and I agree, we were rather good at it!. " No I was assuming everyone already knew enough of that. I had pointed out that what some had pointed to as our 'greatness' would mot have been so without the profits gained by our role in orchestrating the largest slave trade ever seen. What point people are trying to make by highlighting other issues of slavery in history... I've no idea? | |||
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain." The British Empire was not built any more on the slave trade than the Dutch German and French Empires. Slavery predated all these empires by millennia and has origins that predate even the Egyptian and Mesopotamian empires. The British in 1830 were the first nation to make the slave trade illegal across the empire as it was. The historical context for the development of the British Empire was the usual mix if power and trade...and at the time we were more successful at it than anyone else. As I said before if Britain is no longer Great why do so many of the world all want to come here or value our ideals. We may not be perfect out history is not blemish free... can you tell me any country in the world who is. | |||
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain.. The world ran for 5000 years on slaves and the slave trade, the very word slave comes from Slav, the go to slave it was sadly a way of life, all your actually saying is that Britain did it better than everybody else and I agree, we were rather good at it!. No I was assuming everyone already knew enough of that. I had pointed out that what some had pointed to as our 'greatness' would mot have been so without the profits gained by our role in orchestrating the largest slave trade ever seen. What point people are trying to make by highlighting other issues of slavery in history... I've no idea?" . In 1835 it wouldn't have been uncommon to see 4 year olds working under looms, they're little hands worked in well for some particular jobs and frankly for the average family the money came in handy. I don't think their parents were immoral, it's just all there'd ever known in life, it was the way of the world. | |||
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain.. The world ran for 5000 years on slaves and the slave trade, the very word slave comes from Slav, the go to slave it was sadly a way of life, all your actually saying is that Britain did it better than everybody else and I agree, we were rather good at it!. No I was assuming everyone already knew enough of that. I had pointed out that what some had pointed to as our 'greatness' would mot have been so without the profits gained by our role in orchestrating the largest slave trade ever seen. What point people are trying to make by highlighting other issues of slavery in history... I've no idea?. In 1835 it wouldn't have been uncommon to see 4 year olds working under looms, they're little hands worked in well for some particular jobs and frankly for the average family the money came in handy. I don't think their parents were immoral, it's just all there'd ever known in life, it was the way of the world. " For sure. Just as can be seen across India and much of Africa right now. The country grew rich on the poor - wherever they could be found. | |||
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"Mr sausage are you sitting on your phone or something?" Fuck, couldn't do that. Phone is to big to fit. | |||
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"Mr sausage are you sitting on your phone or something? Fuck, couldn't do that. Phone is to big to fit." | |||
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain.. The world ran for 5000 years on slaves and the slave trade, the very word slave comes from Slav, the go to slave it was sadly a way of life, all your actually saying is that Britain did it better than everybody else and I agree, we were rather good at it!. No I was assuming everyone already knew enough of that. I had pointed out that what some had pointed to as our 'greatness' would mot have been so without the profits gained by our role in orchestrating the largest slave trade ever seen. What point people are trying to make by highlighting other issues of slavery in history... I've no idea?. In 1835 it wouldn't have been uncommon to see 4 year olds working under looms, they're little hands worked in well for some particular jobs and frankly for the average family the money came in handy. I don't think their parents were immoral, it's just all there'd ever known in life, it was the way of the world. For sure. Just as can be seen across India and much of Africa right now. The country grew rich on the poor - wherever they could be found. " . Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life | |||
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain. The British Empire was not built any more on the slave trade than the Dutch German and French Empires. Slavery predated all these empires by millennia and has origins that predate even the Egyptian and Mesopotamian empires. The British in 1830 were the first nation to make the slave trade illegal across the empire as it was. The historical context for the development of the British Empire was the usual mix if power and trade...and at the time we were more successful at it than anyone else. As I said before if Britain is no longer Great why do so many of the world all want to come here or value our ideals. We may not be perfect out history is not blemish free... can you tell me any country in the world who is." So, u saying there was no country after 1830 under British and British didn't force the people to work for their own benefits? Refer back ur history book and tell me how many commonwealth countries got independent after 2nd world war. One good thing came out of the Second World War was many countries got independence, because Britain wasn't GREAT enough to look after them self so they left those countries on their own. | |||
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"Yes it’s bloody great and I consider myself lucky enough in life’s mysterious lottery to be born into a democratic, (largely) accepting, society that doesn’t penalise freedom of speech, values the role of women and is a safe place to live" Well said/qouted | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life" Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
A shame we're not investing in those same things now,". No trains was George Stephenson... Then there was photography, cement, steam engines, steam turbines, sewage systems, stainless steel, iron, rubber tyres, phones, jet engines, antibiotics, floated glass, electric motors, light bulbs and gravity | |||
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain.. The world ran for 5000 years on slaves and the slave trade, the very word slave comes from Slav, the go to slave it was sadly a way of life, all your actually saying is that Britain did it better than everybody else and I agree, we were rather good at it!. No I was assuming everyone already knew enough of that. I had pointed out that what some had pointed to as our 'greatness' would mot have been so without the profits gained by our role in orchestrating the largest slave trade ever seen. What point people are trying to make by highlighting other issues of slavery in history... I've no idea?. In 1835 it wouldn't have been uncommon to see 4 year olds working under looms, they're little hands worked in well for some particular jobs and frankly for the average family the money came in handy. I don't think their parents were immoral, it's just all there'd ever known in life, it was the way of the world. For sure. Just as can be seen across India and much of Africa right now. The country grew rich on the poor - wherever they could be found. . Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life" Worst invention I should say, how did you get steam on a steam engine mate? You chop the tree, burn them out, destroy the Eco system, kill thousand of creatures, create pollution which is the major factor for global warming and now we pass a bill in the parliament to reduce pollution. That is the example of selfishness.. | |||
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"And if we ever wanna be great again then really we must start getting back to proper education of our children "Actually I think this is a big problem. Where once we were pioneers and led the way - we now play catch up using outdated ideas. We ought to be hugely investing in creative talents - not stifling them. | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
A shame we're not investing in those same things now,.
No trains was George Stephenson... Then there was photography, cement, steam engines, steam turbines, sewage systems, stainless steel, iron, rubber tyres, phones, jet engines, antibiotics, floated glass, electric motors, light bulbs and gravity "Dude u really need to go back to proper school, antibiotics, cement, sewage system? Britain didn't even existed when these were invented! Simply because British gave a English name in a paper it doesn't mean British invented those... | |||
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"However you cherry pick your history, the undeniable facts are that the British Empire was built on the foundations of the largest slave trade the world has ever seen - for which Britain was a major, if not the major driver. That the British then sought to abolish it (albeit it slowly enough to protect their financial interests and quietly continuing under the radar elsewhere) is indeed something to take pride in. None of which has much to do with why Great Britain came to be Great Britain.. The world ran for 5000 years on slaves and the slave trade, the very word slave comes from Slav, the go to slave it was sadly a way of life, all your actually saying is that Britain did it better than everybody else and I agree, we were rather good at it!. No I was assuming everyone already knew enough of that. I had pointed out that what some had pointed to as our 'greatness' would mot have been so without the profits gained by our role in orchestrating the largest slave trade ever seen. What point people are trying to make by highlighting other issues of slavery in history... I've no idea?. In 1835 it wouldn't have been uncommon to see 4 year olds working under looms, they're little hands worked in well for some particular jobs and frankly for the average family the money came in handy. I don't think their parents were immoral, it's just all there'd ever known in life, it was the way of the world. For sure. Just as can be seen across India and much of Africa right now. The country grew rich on the poor - wherever they could be found. . Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Worst invention I should say, how did you get steam on a steam engine mate? You chop the tree, burn them out, destroy the Eco system, kill thousand of creatures, create pollution which is the major factor for global warming and now we pass a bill in the parliament to reduce pollution. That is the example of selfishness.." . No actually the steam engine radically improved the efficiency of coal production which meant coal fell in price by about 85% meaning even poor people could afford it, meaning they could heat their house water food power survive winters survive longer via better health. Medicine didn't help half as much as sanitation and sanitation required cheap energy. Hence why I said thank trevithick because he really was the instigator of cheap energy which is what provided the vast amount of wealth that Britain acquired and pushed forward the invention rate massively | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
A shame we're not investing in those same things now,.
No trains was George Stephenson... Then there was photography, cement, steam engines, steam turbines, sewage systems, stainless steel, iron, rubber tyres, phones, jet engines, antibiotics, floated glass, electric motors, light bulbs and gravity
Dude u really need to go back to proper school, antibiotics, cement, sewage system? Britain didn't even existed when these were invented! Simply because British gave a English name in a paper it doesn't mean British invented those... ". Go on then, humour me, who invented cement? | |||
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"And if we ever wanna be great again then really we must start getting back to proper education of our children
Actually I think this is a big problem.
Where once we were pioneers and led the way - we now play catch up using outdated ideas. We ought to be hugely investing in creative talents - not stifling them.". I'm all for creative talents. Trevithick himself was slated by his headmaster. If I remember correctly his headmaster wrote he doubted anything good would come of him | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine " Which is why the SI unit of power is called a Trevithick and not a Watt. | |||
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"I'm missing the point the 'history of slavery' people are trying to make? That it was OK because other nations dabbled in it too? As for the 'why do so many people want to come here' argument - are you assuming this isn't the case with a large number of other countries?" Perhaps you are missing the point. The fact that slavery which still exists even today is now accepted to be a deplorable thing has no bearing on the social economic or political climate as it existed in the past. And to reference actions of the past by today's standards may make people feel warm and cuddly or not it does not reflect the context of the times in which it took place. Therefore to suggest that Britain is not great due to its historic activities which to put it bluntly were socially and politically acceptable at the time they occurred is a false premise on which to base a current analysis of Britain's greatness or otherwise in the current world. Nor was it what made or didn't make Britain Great. If you wish to reference a historic basis for Great Britain then you cannot single out any one specific aspect of the countries history. | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
A shame we're not investing in those same things now,.
No trains was George Stephenson... Then there was photography, cement, steam engines, steam turbines, sewage systems, stainless steel, iron, rubber tyres, phones, jet engines, antibiotics, floated glass, electric motors, light bulbs and gravity
Dude u really need to go back to proper school, antibiotics, cement, sewage system? Britain didn't even existed when these were invented! Simply because British gave a English name in a paper it doesn't mean British invented those... .
Go on then, humour me, who invented cement?"I am still laughing at you mate... As I said earlier, simply because you give a new English name to an existing things it doesn't mean as an invention. U going to say all the Roman building, pyramids and temples in Asia are build only after British invented the so called cement? Sewage system was Roman invention.. I still think British need to improve their educational system. | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
A shame we're not investing in those same things now,.
No trains was George Stephenson... Then there was photography, cement, steam engines, steam turbines, sewage systems, stainless steel, iron, rubber tyres, phones, jet engines, antibiotics, floated glass, electric motors, light bulbs and gravity "Trains were not George Stephenson. They evolved as did many other inventions primarily from the first static steam engines mainly down to the work of James Watt and others and their origin as stream locomotives was indeed Richard Trevithick a Cornish mining engineer who first used a stream locomtove as a novelty ride on a circular track around 1804 having developed his first prototype in 1801. Kinda inconvenient when basic facts aren't even accurate isn't it? | |||
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"Was it ever? Id say leading the world in the industrial revolution was pretty great,that's one reason. Just my opinion. " Shh don't mention it was fuelled by extreme inequality and slave labour xxx and certainly don't mention that the great refers to a geographic great and not a smug superior great xxx | |||
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"cougar prey you a [well carnt say as it would get us put on naughty step]if you dont like it here why stay here or just fuck off and take your negative comments with you .i will pay a one way ticket to any 3rthd world country of your choice.as long as you dont come back to here" You are aware that what I posted is a quote from a Geoff Bridges speech in a Hollywood movie right? Idiot | |||
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"Well as I happen to love our country It is and always has been great" and anyone that says otherwise should take a trip to Traitors Gate | |||
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"Britain was never great ffs! The British empire was forged by brutalising, enslaving, cheating, raping and pillaging other human beings and their land. All empires are built in this fashion. Today Britain is as loathsome as ever as it exports armaments to tinpot regimes and dictators that we are in bed with for the Elites own ends. Britain is a peddler of death and misery. Shame! Btw - I'm an ex British squaddie so I have every right to speak this way. Just saying....." Why would you be in the British army if you think that way? Just saying like | |||
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"The country was great on the back of some very dubious ways of controlling others. It's now become a horrible place due to the selfish society prevailing more than the caring one. " I think you can safely apply that globally.. | |||
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"The country was great on the back of some very dubious ways of controlling others. It's now become a horrible place due to the selfish society prevailing more than the caring one. " | |||
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"There is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we’re the greatest country in the world. We’re 7th in literacy, 27th in maths, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, number 4 in labour force and number 4 in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defence spending – where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies. Now, none of this is the fault of any of us on Fab, but we, nonetheless, are without a doubt a member of the worst period generation period ever, so when you ask what makes us a great country in the world, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about anymore! It sure used to be great though. We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed laws, struck down laws – for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not on poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbours, we put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advanced, explored the universe, cured diseases and we cultivated the world’s greatest artists AND the world’s greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like heroes. We aspired to intelligence, we didn’t belittle it. It didn’t make us feel inferior. We didn’t identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn’t scare so easily. We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed… by great men and women, men and women who were revered the world over. First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one. Britain is not the greatest country in the world anymore" Calm down there McAvoy! | |||
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"Was it ever? Id say leading the world in the industrial revolution was pretty great,that's one reason. Just my opinion. Slavery and subjugation played a pretty big part in that. " That was global - not just Britain - and we campaigned against/banned slavery well before many other leading nations! | |||
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"Britain was never great ffs! The British empire was forged by brutalising, enslaving, cheating, raping and pillaging other human beings and their land. All empires are built in this fashion. Today Britain is as loathsome as ever as it exports armaments to tinpot regimes and dictators that we are in bed with for the Elites own ends. Britain is a peddler of death and misery. Shame! Btw - I'm an ex British squaddie so I have every right to speak this way. Just saying..... Why would you be in the British army if you think that way? Just saying like" They're normally bamboozled when they're 16 yrs old. They then learn how to think for themselves. That's a friends who told me that. He should never have signed up. | |||
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"Britain was never great ffs! The British empire was forged by brutalising, enslaving, cheating, raping and pillaging other human beings and their land. All empires are built in this fashion. Today Britain is as loathsome as ever as it exports armaments to tinpot regimes and dictators that we are in bed with for the Elites own ends. Britain is a peddler of death and misery. Shame! Btw - I'm an ex British squaddie so I have every right to speak this way. Just saying....." Firstly you do not have to defend your right to your opinion. Not even on fab secondly...no one else has to agree with it. And finally if you consider Britain to be such a loathsome place there are many other places you could be... Or indeed you could do something to change it... It is when good people do nothing that evil flourishes. | |||
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"There is absolutely no evidence to support the statement that we’re the greatest country in the world. We’re 7th in literacy, 27th in maths, 22nd in science, 49th in life expectancy, 178th in infant mortality, 3rd in median household income, number 4 in labour force and number 4 in exports. We lead the world in only three categories: number of incarcerated citizens per capita, number of adults who believe angels are real and defence spending – where we spend more than the next 26 countries combined, 25 of whom are allies. Now, none of this is the fault of any of us on Fab, but we, nonetheless, are without a doubt a member of the worst period generation period ever, so when you ask what makes us a great country in the world, I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about anymore! It sure used to be great though. We stood up for what was right. We fought for moral reasons. We passed laws, struck down laws – for moral reasons. We waged wars on poverty, not on poor people. We sacrificed, we cared about our neighbours, we put our money where our mouths were and we never beat our chest. We built great big things, made ungodly technological advanced, explored the universe, cured diseases and we cultivated the world’s greatest artists AND the world’s greatest economy. We reached for the stars, acted like heroes. We aspired to intelligence, we didn’t belittle it. It didn’t make us feel inferior. We didn’t identify ourselves by who we voted for in the last election and we didn’t scare so easily. We were able to be all these things and do all these things because we were informed… by great men and women, men and women who were revered the world over. First step in solving any problem is recognizing there is one. Britain is not the greatest country in the world anymore" well said | |||
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"Yes it is great. Colonised more than 100 countries, collected tax from other countries, killed billions and created a new term called slaves, participated in two world war, Afghan and Iraq war, won 1 football World Cup, now coming out from EU. How can't we say it isn't great. Great Britain did not invent slavery! No. It just upscaled it, massively. Slavery was big business for lots of countries, all over the world, for millennia. This includes Britain, but certainly not exclusively. Tell me another country who had so many colonies as Britain. There a difference between having a slave in one household and slaves through out the world "Having history is brilliant. We’ve learned from it and become a better nation. By your thinking we should nuke Mongolia because that Genghis Khan was a proper cunt. The world was a pretty fucked up place throughout history. Countries did some pretty shit things. But it’s evolved. It’s evolving. Great Britain is great. Always has been, always will be. We lead, others follow. We accept our mistakes and work hard to rectify them. If you look to more recent history, two of the countries in today’s world who are praised as being the shining lights, only a few decades ago were responsible for 80 million deaths over 2 world wars. Yet the world forgives, and moves forward. Forgiveness is probably the greatest gift we can give or receive. Don’t be a hater, our great country is Great, it’s not perfect, but I love it. I’d fight for it like my ancestors did. | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
A shame we're not investing in those same things now,.
No trains was George Stephenson... Then there was photography, cement, steam engines, steam turbines, sewage systems, stainless steel, iron, rubber tyres, phones, jet engines, antibiotics, floated glass, electric motors, light bulbs and gravity
Trains were not George Stephenson.
They evolved as did many other inventions primarily from the first static steam engines mainly down to the work of James Watt and others and their origin as stream locomotives was indeed Richard Trevithick a Cornish mining engineer who first used a stream locomtove as a novelty ride on a circular track around 1804 having developed his first prototype in 1801.
Kinda inconvenient when basic facts aren't even accurate isn't it?". Oh lord there's always one isn't there.... Yes yes I should have said high pressure steam engine for trevithick and yes yes George Stephenson is only known as the father of the modern railway and yes yes Newcomen invented the "atmospheric steam engine" and yes yes you invented nit picking | |||
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"Well we can all thank Richard trevithick from Cornwall for inventing the steam engine then and saving slaves and children from shit jobs in life... Coz the reality is Britain made its vast wealth mostly from invention and these inventions in the end helped everybody get a better life Interesting I don't know much about the history of trains
Science, technology, education and infrastructure are definitely things we can be proud of in our history.
A shame we're not investing in those same things now,.
No trains was George Stephenson... Then there was photography, cement, steam engines, steam turbines, sewage systems, stainless steel, iron, rubber tyres, phones, jet engines, antibiotics, floated glass, electric motors, light bulbs and gravity
Dude u really need to go back to proper school, antibiotics, cement, sewage system? Britain didn't even existed when these were invented! Simply because British gave a English name in a paper it doesn't mean British invented those... .
Go on then, humour me, who invented cement?
I am still laughing at you mate...
As I said earlier, simply because you give a new English name to an existing things it doesn't mean as an invention. U going to say all the Roman building, pyramids and temples in Asia are build only after British invented the so called cement? Sewage system was Roman invention..
I still think British need to improve their educational system.". I find people who still laugh despite not knowing the difference between cement and mortar and concrete the funniest myself | |||
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"Britain was never great ffs! The British empire was forged by brutalising, enslaving, cheating, raping and pillaging other human beings and their land. All empires are built in this fashion. Today Britain is as loathsome as ever as it exports armaments to tinpot regimes and dictators that we are in bed with for the Elites own ends. Britain is a peddler of death and misery. Shame! Btw - I'm an ex British squaddie so I have every right to speak this way. Just saying..... Why would you be in the British army if you think that way? Just saying like" It is precisely due to what I experienced and what my colleagues experienced that I think this way. When a gun battery that you service is given co-ordinates for a so called legitimate target and fires several salvos at it, only to discover a day or two later that you hit a village and killed innocent civilians including children you start to question this whole shitty war thing! So yeah, I woke up to the lies and today this State and every other State for that matter can go fuck itself. Conform and stand in line at your peril for if we don't start loving each other a whole heap more we are all staring into the abyss. So bollocks to Great Britain, BUT Big Love to all this nations peace loving people and to all the peace loving people around the world. Just saying..... | |||
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"Britain was never great ffs! The British empire was forged by brutalising, enslaving, cheating, raping and pillaging other human beings and their land. All empires are built in this fashion. Today Britain is as loathsome as ever as it exports armaments to tinpot regimes and dictators that we are in bed with for the Elites own ends. Britain is a peddler of death and misery. Shame! Btw - I'm an ex British squaddie so I have every right to speak this way. Just saying..... Firstly you do not have to defend your right to your opinion. Not even on fab secondly...no one else has to agree with it. And finally if you consider Britain to be such a loathsome place there are many other places you could be... Or indeed you could do something to change it... It is when good people do nothing that evil flourishes. " You are correct in all you say my friend. Doing nothing is indeed not an option. I am so down with this! | |||
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"Can you imagine if we went to war today. Squaddie: "Can you hang on Sarge as I haven't styled my hair or applied my moisturiser". "How do I use this shootie thing anyway"? Where is the joypad and why when I have been shot can I not just get up and re-spawn. "Well I'd call that progress. War has not once in human history ever been a good thing. | |||
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"Define great? If you mean an Imperialist invader that stole territories, and destroyed everything in it's path since time & memorial, then yeah Britain is really great. Otherwise no, nationalism is the scourge of the planet, and should be abolished worldwide." Hear, hear this man! RESPECT! | |||
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"Can you imagine if we went to war today. Squaddie: "Can you hang on Sarge as I haven't styled my hair or applied my moisturiser". "How do I use this shootie thing anyway"? Where is the joypad and why when I have been shot can I not just get up and re-spawn.
Well I'd call that progress.
War has not once in human history ever been a good thing."I agree that war is a bad thing, but if it happened you would want our nation of wet, vain guys defending us. All that have passed gave up their lives for Britain as it is today, there is nothing Great about it! With the likes of Trump in power there is a far higher chance of us going there again. | |||
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"Can you imagine if we went to war today. Squaddie: "Can you hang on Sarge as I haven't styled my hair or applied my moisturiser". "How do I use this shootie thing anyway"? Where is the joypad and why when I have been shot can I not just get up and re-spawn.
Well I'd call that progress.
War has not once in human history ever been a good thing.
I agree that war is a bad thing, but if it happened you would want our nation of wet, vain guys defending us.
All that have passed gave up their lives for Britain as it is today, there is nothing Great about it!
With the likes of Trump in power there is a far higher chance of us going there again.
"I don't think you need to worry - the chances of there ever being any sort of large-scale ground war again is seriously low. It'll be high-tech, big bombs, short term war with massive effect. The days of troop-heavy ground offensives are long gone. | |||
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"Can you imagine if we went to war today. Squaddie: "Can you hang on Sarge as I haven't styled my hair or applied my moisturiser". "How do I use this shootie thing anyway"? Where is the joypad and why when I have been shot can I not just get up and re-spawn.
Well I'd call that progress.
War has not once in human history ever been a good thing."You know - it’s a funny thing - but both the first and second world wars had a positive impact. Thanks to the First World War the upper classes, due to being in close quarters for years in the trenches, realised that the working classes were actually human - and pay and conditions improved considerably after the war. Women got the vote because they stepped up and did the jobs of men in their absence - thus proving their equality! The Second World War was for a valid reason - to stop hitler from taking over Europe in the cruelest way imaginable (genocide etc) - and like many wars it brought on huge advancements in areas such as technology, medicine, aviation etc etc. But in answer to the ops question - are we still great? Could we ever have the same spirit, comeraderie, selflessness, bravery and dedication that we showed in the 2nd world war? Sadly I doubt it! Probably the best thing we’ve collectively done since then was live-aid, which began decades of public fundraising/awareness of issues that were previously only mentioned in news bulletins! - so I guess we can be proud of that! X | |||
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"Can you imagine if we went to war today. Squaddie: "Can you hang on Sarge as I haven't styled my hair or applied my moisturiser". "How do I use this shootie thing anyway"? Where is the joypad and why when I have been shot can I not just get up and re-spawn.
Well I'd call that progress.
War has not once in human history ever been a good thing.
You know - it’s a funny thing - but both the first and second world wars had a positive impact. Thanks to the First World War the upper classes, due to being in close quarters for years in the trenches, realised that the working classes were actually human - and pay and conditions improved considerably after the war. Women got the vote because they stepped up and did the jobs of men in their absence - thus proving their equality!
The Second World War was for a valid reason - to stop hitler from taking over Europe in the cruelest way imaginable (genocide etc) - and like many wars it brought on huge advancements in areas such as technology, medicine, aviation etc etc.
But in answer to the ops question - are we still great? Could we ever have the same spirit, comeraderie, selflessness, bravery and dedication that we showed in the 2nd world war? Sadly I doubt it!
Probably the best thing we’ve collectively done since then was live-aid, which began decades of public fundraising/awareness of issues that were previously only mentioned in news bulletins! - so I guess we can be proud of that! X"Live aid. Hmm. Joint collaboration between bob ( Irish) and midge (uk) so that means it’s only half great in my reckoning lol | |||
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"Oh lord there's always one isn't there.... Yes yes I should have said high pressure steam engine for trevithick and yes yes George Stephenson is only known as the father of the modern railway and yes yes Newcomen invented the "atmospheric steam engine" and yes yes you invented nit picking D- 300 word essay on how Great Britain invented or discovered the 4th most abundant element on Earth .
Magnesium?.
Sure, what's the relevance though "Ah can't be bothering with idiots | |||
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"Oh lord there's always one isn't there.... Yes yes I should have said high pressure steam engine for trevithick and yes yes George Stephenson is only known as the father of the modern railway and yes yes Newcomen invented the "atmospheric steam engine" and yes yes you invented nit picking D- 300 word essay on how Great Britain invented or discovered the 4th most abundant element on Earth .
Magnesium?.
Sure, what's the relevance though
Ah can't be bothering with idiots ". Well he was British as well as everybody else we've since nit picked about over a post which was originally about how Britain actually made its wealth which was invention and discovery. | |||
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"Oh lord there's always one isn't there.... Yes yes I should have said high pressure steam engine for trevithick and yes yes George Stephenson is only known as the father of the modern railway and yes yes Newcomen invented the "atmospheric steam engine" and yes yes you invented nit picking D- 300 word essay on how Great Britain invented or discovered the 4th most abundant element on Earth .
Magnesium?.
Sure, what's the relevance though
Ah can't be bothering with idiots .
Well he was British as well as everybody else we've since nit picked about over a post which was originally about how Britain actually made its wealth which was invention and discovery.
"Still not sure which Brit invented iron, or how the Romans built using concrete with the great British discovery of 'cement', or what qualifies Goodyear and du Croc as British. Am sure it's wealth was created by the East India company rather than keeping pace with European wide invention. | |||
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"Oh lord there's always one isn't there.... Yes yes I should have said high pressure steam engine for trevithick and yes yes George Stephenson is only known as the father of the modern railway and yes yes Newcomen invented the "atmospheric steam engine" and yes yes you invented nit picking D- 300 word essay on how Great Britain invented or discovered the 4th most abundant element on Earth .
Magnesium?.
Sure, what's the relevance though
Ah can't be bothering with idiots .
Well he was British as well as everybody else we've since nit picked about over a post which was originally about how Britain actually made its wealth which was invention and discovery.
Still not sure which Brit invented iron, or how the Romans built using concrete with the great British discovery of 'cement', or what qualifies Goodyear and du Croc as British. Am sure it's wealth was created by the East India company rather than keeping pace with European wide invention. ". One point at a time, you asked for the fourth most abundant element on earth essay which is magnesium not iron (my retort on your nit picking) .
Concrete is a mix of aggregate materials using a binding agent, the Romans didn't use cement or to nit pick "Portland cement"(the cement we all use today) (nit pick nit pick) because it hadn't been invented until the British guy called adpidin in the 1800s invented it.
I never mentioned Goodyear or du croc but I assume you've thrown that into the mix due to I mentioned the tyre(pneumatic)(nit pick nit pick) being invented by a Brit which it was Dunlop .
Anyhow like I say, don't have a cow and don't keep coming back with nit picking nonsense | |||
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