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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Latest edition is on at moment.
Now im all for people being paid for the level of skill and expertise they have in the professional life.
Tonight features a married family where both mother and father are in the medical profession,employed by the NHS.
What has touched a nerve is the amount of weekly disposable income(after mortgage and bills) they have...£2938...clearly their doing alright!
But i cant help thinking that this 'disposable income'could be better spent by the NHS on other staff,when we hear often how some staff struggle to make ends meet  |
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By *lue NarwhalMan
over a year ago
Iceland, but Aldi is closer.. |
Some practice gp's and specialist surgeon can command a small fortune, while junior Dr's and nurses in hospitals struggle.
However, it's supply and demand.. the nhs needs these specialist people and if the nhs doesn't pay their wage, there are plenty of other private and foreign hospitals that would be more than willing to. I'll |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
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No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted ! |
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !"
Their disposable is over 2 times my take home!!
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !"
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income..."
Your missing my point here...their disposable income is AFTER all their living expenses have been deducted,whether they pay £500 a month rent/mortgage or £1500 a month what whether is left to spend however they wish is their DISPOSABLE INCOME |
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income...
Your missing my point here...their disposable income is AFTER all their living expenses have been deducted,whether they pay £500 a month rent/mortgage or £1500 a month what whether is left to spend however they wish is their DISPOSABLE INCOME"
So what you are saying as it's DISPOSABLE INCOME, they shouldn't get it. They should only be paid enough to cover their bills and a bit on top to cover the odd meal and a cheap holiday...
I would like to think they are highly qualified and have worked hard to get where they are.
If they have a disposable income of nearly £3k a week, that works out at roughly £152k a year, say they have monthly bills of £3k, that totals £186k before taxes and any deductions.
So they are earning in the region of £400k.
Now if they order toilet rolls, that's a big salary, if they are brain or heart surgeons, it money well spent... |
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income...
Your missing my point here...their disposable income is AFTER all their living expenses have been deducted,whether they pay £500 a month rent/mortgage or £1500 a month what whether is left to spend however they wish is their DISPOSABLE INCOME
So what you are saying as it's DISPOSABLE INCOME, they shouldn't get it. They should only be paid enough to cover their bills and a bit on top to cover the odd meal and a cheap holiday...
I would like to think they are highly qualified and have worked hard to get where they are.
If they have a disposable income of nearly £3k a week, that works out at roughly £152k a year, say they have monthly bills of £3k, that totals £186k before taxes and any deductions.
So they are earning in the region of £400k.
Now if they order toilet rolls, that's a big salary, if they are brain or heart surgeons, it money well spent..."
I repeat, no sensible comments please!
Why people begrudge others for hard work/good fortune amazes me. Good for them. |
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"Crazy idea but Id rather see the nurses and junior doctors paid more rather than those at the top paid less.
But those at the top have huge responsibilities. Should they not be remunerated accordingly? We want the best for the jobs to be able to perform highly at that level. We won't get them without competitive salaries or are you suggesting they should do it for the sheer altruism?"
I didn't read his comment like that.
I read it as also paying junior doctors and nurses a decent remuneration rather than lowering the salaries of those at the top. |
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Their disposable is over 2 times my take home!!
B x"
While I agree with you, there could be other areas they got extra cash from to help them along the way.
You don't know what other sources of income they have, might have been left money from parents, second jobs as lecturers, other paid roles. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Crazy idea but Id rather see the nurses and junior doctors paid more rather than those at the top paid less.
But those at the top have huge responsibilities. Should they not be remunerated accordingly? We want the best for the jobs to be able to perform highly at that level. We won't get them without competitive salaries or are you suggesting they should do it for the sheer altruism?
I didn't read his comment like that.
I read it as also paying junior doctors and nurses a decent remuneration rather than lowering the salaries of those at the top."
me neither, once I read it properly, which is why I deleted...it's early...  |
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Why people begrudge others for hard work/good fortune amazes me. Good for them."
I have no problem with people earning big money.
Working in London you get use to seeing big money...
I have clients that £400k wouldn't pay their hotel bill, may pay for one car or their wife's jewellery...
Obviously I wouldn't mind if a bit more of it came my way...lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I've not watched the show, but I don't feel comfortable with the premise of the show, the comments that have appeared on social media and in the press haven't been pleasant for either party, and comes across as you'll be kicked for being too successful and kicked for not being successful enough.
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"I've not watched the show, but I don't feel comfortable with the premise of the show, the comments that have appeared on social media and in the press haven't been pleasant for either party, and comes across as you'll be kicked for being too successful and kicked for not being successful enough.
Ginger "
Spot on!
I watched some of the first series, not bothered with the new one. The first series matched people with similar starts in life ie raised by single mum in council estate etc. One went on to become multi millionaire the other earning minimum wage.
I found it a simplistic comparison and unfair.
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By (user no longer on site)
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The people on high incomes are specialised and many have trained for years to demand that wage. I'm on a very low wage but don't begrudge those earning a good income x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's not a program that I watch very often and it always seems very unfair when you see people who are clearly struggling just to keep up with the essential things in life next to people that have more than enough.
When I have watched, I have noticed that the children from the wealthy family leave with a better appreciation of what they have and a greater empathy for those that have less. Hopefully this will stay with them for the rest of their lives.
The children from the poor families almost always leave inspired to work hard at school and to better their social and financial standing.
I think it probably has that effect on a lot of younger viewers too. That's quite good really... isn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income...
Your missing my point here...their disposable income is AFTER all their living expenses have been deducted,whether they pay £500 a month rent/mortgage or £1500 a month what whether is left to spend however they wish is their DISPOSABLE INCOME
So what you are saying as it's DISPOSABLE INCOME, they shouldn't get it. They should only be paid enough to cover their bills and a bit on top to cover the odd meal and a cheap holiday...
I would like to think they are highly qualified and have worked hard to get where they are.
If they have a disposable income of nearly £3k a week, that works out at roughly £152k a year, say they have monthly bills of £3k, that totals £186k before taxes and any deductions.
So they are earning in the region of £400k.
Now if they order toilet rolls, that's a big salary, if they are brain or heart surgeons, it money well spent..."
Now your getting it...but what im trying to say is that their disposable income weekly of £3k could be less paid to one couple in same line of work (and this is tax payers money remember)when others in the NHS who work just as hard and maybe longer hours and have also studied could be paid just a little bit more i.e. nurses  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income...
Your missing my point here...their disposable income is AFTER all their living expenses have been deducted,whether they pay £500 a month rent/mortgage or £1500 a month what whether is left to spend however they wish is their DISPOSABLE INCOME
So what you are saying as it's DISPOSABLE INCOME, they shouldn't get it. They should only be paid enough to cover their bills and a bit on top to cover the odd meal and a cheap holiday...
I would like to think they are highly qualified and have worked hard to get where they are.
If they have a disposable income of nearly £3k a week, that works out at roughly £152k a year, say they have monthly bills of £3k, that totals £186k before taxes and any deductions.
So they are earning in the region of £400k.
Now if they order toilet rolls, that's a big salary, if they are brain or heart surgeons, it money well spent...
Now your getting it...but what im trying to say is that their disposable income weekly of £3k could be less paid to one couple in same line of work (and this is tax payers money remember)when others in the NHS who work just as hard and maybe longer hours and have also studied could be paid just a little bit more i.e. nurses "
A local family by us are both in the NHS, one a GP and one a consultant and judging by the size of their house they have a similar income, the consultant works for the NHS and also does private work and I guess this is what boosts mosts hospital consultants pay. Similar to Nurses doing bank work, rarely are things all as it seems.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Awful programme as always using the unfortunate struggls of some familys against a more stable family just for t.v. ratings.
more missery porn let me guess chanel 5 ? "
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income...
Your missing my point here...their disposable income is AFTER all their living expenses have been deducted,whether they pay £500 a month rent/mortgage or £1500 a month what whether is left to spend however they wish is their DISPOSABLE INCOME
So what you are saying as it's DISPOSABLE INCOME, they shouldn't get it. They should only be paid enough to cover their bills and a bit on top to cover the odd meal and a cheap holiday...
I would like to think they are highly qualified and have worked hard to get where they are.
If they have a disposable income of nearly £3k a week, that works out at roughly £152k a year, say they have monthly bills of £3k, that totals £186k before taxes and any deductions.
So they are earning in the region of £400k.
Now if they order toilet rolls, that's a big salary, if they are brain or heart surgeons, it money well spent...
Now your getting it...but what im trying to say is that their disposable income weekly of £3k could be less paid to one couple in same line of work (and this is tax payers money remember)when others in the NHS who work just as hard and maybe longer hours and have also studied could be paid just a little bit more i.e. nurses "
So someone who has worked hard, continuded to get qualifications as they have gone through their career, has attained and honed skills should be paid less, so that someone far less skilled can be paid more?
So you are a doctor that can re-attach limbs, connecting nerves and attach tendons should get a pay cut because he works a 36 hour week and a nurse working 60 hours earns less.
You think that's right???  |
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"Disposable income is a personal thing to a certain extent.
One person earing say £30k may have a huge mortgage, the same person 20 years later may well be mortgage free...
No,the disposable income is the amount of money they have a week,AFTER mortgage/rent and other living expenses have been deducted !
Yes, so if you have paid off your mortgage whether through good money management, inheritance etc you will have a bigger disposable income...
Your missing my point here...their disposable income is AFTER all their living expenses have been deducted,whether they pay £500 a month rent/mortgage or £1500 a month what whether is left to spend however they wish is their DISPOSABLE INCOME
So what you are saying as it's DISPOSABLE INCOME, they shouldn't get it. They should only be paid enough to cover their bills and a bit on top to cover the odd meal and a cheap holiday...
I would like to think they are highly qualified and have worked hard to get where they are.
If they have a disposable income of nearly £3k a week, that works out at roughly £152k a year, say they have monthly bills of £3k, that totals £186k before taxes and any deductions.
So they are earning in the region of £400k.
Now if they order toilet rolls, that's a big salary, if they are brain or heart surgeons, it money well spent...
Now your getting it...but what im trying to say is that their disposable income weekly of £3k could be less paid to one couple in same line of work (and this is tax payers money remember)when others in the NHS who work just as hard and maybe longer hours and have also studied could be paid just a little bit more i.e. nurses
So someone who has worked hard, continuded to get qualifications as they have gone through their career, has attained and honed skills should be paid less, so that someone far less skilled can be paid more?
So you are a doctor that can re-attach limbs, connecting nerves and attach tendons should get a pay cut because he works a 36 hour week and a nurse working 60 hours earns less.
You think that's right??? "
In a nutshell I truly believe that's what some think. |
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Unfortunately the world doesn't work like that.
Would you truly take on a very demanding stressful job for the same pay and rewards as someone with a far easier and less stressful job.
I think if you say yes, you are fooling yourself...
You are basically going down the route of communism and we have all seen how well that works... |
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