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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Talk to your friend who is “kind of a gossip” at work.
Don’t talk over men.
If you are asked to be on a panel/team and see that it’s all women, say something. Maybe even refuse the spot!
When you see another girl talk over a man, say: “Hey, he was saying something.”
Learn to read a fucking room.
Don’t call men “crazy” in a professional setting.
Don’t use your “feminism” as a way to get men to trust you. Show us in your day-to-day life, not in your self-congratulatory social media.
Don’t touch men you don’t know, and honestly, ask yourself why you feel the need to touch men in general.
Do you feel that any man on earth owes you something? He doesn’t. Even if you’re like, “Hm, but what about basic respect?” ask yourself if you’ve shown him the same.
Don’t send pictures of your body unless he just asked for them.
If a man says no to a date, don’t ask him again.
If a man has not given an enthusiastic “yes” to sex, back the hell off.
If a man is really d*unk, he cannot consent to you and he also cannot consent to your girl who seems to be trying something. Your girl is your responsibility, so say something and intervene.
If you do the right thing, don’t expect praise or payment or a pat on the back or even a “thank you from that man”. Congratulations, you were baseline decent.
Involve men in your creative projects, then let them have equal part in them.
Don’t make misandrist jokes.
Don’t expect men to be “nice” or “friendly” and don’t get upset when they aren’t those things.
Don’t make assumptions about a man’s intelligence, capabilities or desires based on how he dresses.
Pay men as much as you pay women.
If a man tells you that you fucked up, and you feel like shit, don’t put it on that man to make you feel better. Apologize without qualification and then go away.
Don’t punish men for witnessing your vulnerability.
Don’t get defensive when you get called out.
Don’t need to literally witness a woman being horrible in order to believe that she’s horrible. Trust and believe men.
Don’t use your power to get men’s attention/company/sex/etc.
Be aware of your inherent power in situations and use it to protect men, especially via talking to other women.
Stop thinking that because you’re also marginalized or a survivor that you cannot inflict pain or oppress men.
If men’s pain makes you feel pain, don’t prize your pain above his, or make that pain his problem.
Don’t read a list like this and think that most of these don’t apply to you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
Beautiful. "
Pay difference is not just between men and women, it happens between same sex at lot of companies. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
Beautiful. "
Mirroring?...
Identical post to OP from female perspective was posted here a while ago.
I really must stop reading stuff |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
I wouldn't be pissed off with 100k to be honest. "
You should speak to someone about that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
Beautiful.
Mirroring?...
Identical post to OP from female perspective was posted here a while ago.
I really must stop reading stuff "
A lot of stuff is copied on here. Fuck knows where they get it from.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
Beautiful.
Pay difference is not just between men and women, it happens between same sex at lot of companies."
They should do something about that. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
Beautiful.
Mirroring?...
Identical post to OP from female perspective was posted here a while ago.
I really must stop reading stuff
A lot of stuff is copied on here. Fuck knows where they get it from.
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Think that one first appeared in the Ireland forum...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
Beautiful.
Mirroring?...
Identical post to OP from female perspective was posted here a while ago.
I really must stop reading stuff
A lot of stuff is copied on here. Fuck knows where they get it from.
Think that one first appeared in the Ireland forum...
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A lot comes from Facebook. I see it on here and it's either a trending news item or a meme.
These types come across a little patronising to me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Or maybe just plagiarism
Who cares but the content is what matters."
The content is a rip off of a female perspective with the genders changed...
It makes it a little less authentic don't you think? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Or maybe just plagiarism
Who cares but the content is what matters.
The content is a rip off of a female perspective with the genders changed...
It makes it a little less authentic don't you think? "
It's not authentic, unless I've been living in a secluded world all my life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Or maybe just plagiarism
Who cares but the content is what matters.
Do you read these things and change your ways?"
There is nothing here in this, for me to change my ways. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Or maybe just plagiarism
Who cares but the content is what matters.
The content is a rip off of a female perspective with the genders changed...
It makes it a little less authentic don't you think? "
Most of the time Everything posted here are copy paste from somewhere, so who care about authentic or plagiarism, people even upload fake pics here stolen from other's Facebook account. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Or maybe just plagiarism
Who cares but the content is what matters.
Do you read these things and change your ways?
There is nothing here in this, for me to change my ways. "
Why would you feel the need to change your ways?
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By *eesideMan
over a year ago
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"Talk to your friend who is “kind of a gossip” at work.
Don’t talk over men.
If you are asked to be on a panel/team and see that it’s all women, say something. Maybe even refuse the spot!
When you see another girl talk over a man, say: “Hey, he was saying something.”
Learn to read a fucking room.
Don’t call men “crazy” in a professional setting.
Don’t use your “feminism” as a way to get men to trust you. Show us in your day-to-day life, not in your self-congratulatory social media.
Don’t touch men you don’t know, and honestly, ask yourself why you feel the need to touch men in general.
Do you feel that any man on earth owes you something? He doesn’t. Even if you’re like, “Hm, but what about basic respect?” ask yourself if you’ve shown him the same.
Don’t send pictures of your body unless he just asked for them.
If a man says no to a date, don’t ask him again.
If a man has not given an enthusiastic “yes” to sex, back the hell off.
If a man is really d*unk, he cannot consent to you and he also cannot consent to your girl who seems to be trying something. Your girl is your responsibility, so say something and intervene.
If you do the right thing, don’t expect praise or payment or a pat on the back or even a “thank you from that man”. Congratulations, you were baseline decent.
Involve men in your creative projects, then let them have equal part in them.
Don’t make misandrist jokes.
Don’t expect men to be “nice” or “friendly” and don’t get upset when they aren’t those things.
Don’t make assumptions about a man’s intelligence, capabilities or desires based on how he dresses.
Pay men as much as you pay women.
If a man tells you that you fucked up, and you feel like shit, don’t put it on that man to make you feel better. Apologize without qualification and then go away.
Don’t punish men for witnessing your vulnerability.
Don’t get defensive when you get called out.
Don’t need to literally witness a woman being horrible in order to believe that she’s horrible. Trust and believe men.
Don’t use your power to get men’s attention/company/sex/etc.
Be aware of your inherent power in situations and use it to protect men, especially via talking to other women.
Stop thinking that because you’re also marginalized or a survivor that you cannot inflict pain or oppress men.
If men’s pain makes you feel pain, don’t prize your pain above his, or make that pain his problem.
Don’t read a list like this and think that most of these don’t apply to you."
And don't think this list is for every man
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"If they paid some men as much as their female counterparts there would be a lot of pissed off men.
I wouldn't be pissed off with 100k to be honest.
You should speak to someone about that. "
There's a saying in engineering. "You don't have to be a cunt to work here, but it helps if you've got one...." |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Blimey, I came off fb to get away from poorly written patronising self entitled rehashed crap like this "
Excellent
Guys and girls, ladies and gents I just posted this as a little experiment.
My feeling is that in the original form that these suggestions are patronising, sexist and insulting to the 99% of people who don't need advice on basic decorum.
I just swapped out men for women. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Blimey, I came off fb to get away from poorly written patronising self entitled rehashed crap like this
Excellent
Guys and girls, ladies and gents I just posted this as a little experiment.
My feeling is that in the original form that these suggestions are patronising, sexist and insulting to the 99% of people who don't need advice on basic decorum.
I just swapped out men for women. "
What was the experiment?
I’d suggest written in the original form it was quite a popular piece among women who used it as a dig against a man who they perceived as wronging them in some way. Men probably jumped at the rewritten version to retaliate at the perceived feminists...
either way I’m disappointed in you op |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well I'm delighted with myself because it supports my point that these things are divisive and act to split men and women into camps when we should all just get along. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Well I'm delighted with myself because it supports my point that these things are divisive and act to split men and women into camps when we should all just get along. "
I’m delighted my disappointment hasn’t dampened your delight
It’s a good point though and of course the outcome is that we should just be nice to everyone |
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"Or maybe just plagiarism
Who cares but the content is what matters.
The content is a rip off of a female perspective with the genders changed...
It makes it a little less authentic don't you think? " it was an article in a news paper that somewoman posted on here.op and most guys thought it was a bit of a sexist article (yes ladies it goes both ways .)so op has posted the opposite to see if the reaction is the same im assuming.it's interesting to see the difference in the replies. |
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