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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Watching it for the first (and last time).
Synopsis:
Sexually vulnerable 15yr old boy groomed and abused by family friend grows up and turns abuser, grooming and preying on vulnerable young woman for his own gratification.
Not sure I can watch this any further - Have I missed anything? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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50 Shades of Shit.
Written by a middle aged sexy ally frustrated woman for the titillation of sexually frustrated middle aged women.
Bloody film has a lot to answer fr for spawning out a herd of BDSM wannabes.
Ooh, You're from Carnoustie. I love it there, stayed at the Kinloch recently. That beach, wow. |
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"Watching it for the first (and last time).
Synopsis:
Sexually vulnerable 15yr old boy groomed and abused by family friend grows up and turns abuser, grooming and preying on vulnerable young woman for his own gratification.
Not sure I can watch this any further - Have I missed anything?"
So you believe BDSM is abuse then.
It's a shit film I'll grant you and I hate that she made him broken for him to enjoy what he does sexually.... Does nothing but perpetuate bullshit stereotypes |
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By (user no longer on site)
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The series of books have also made many women realise that their fantasies were valid and normal and they were not strange having submissive or dominant fantasies. They could look at the books sales of a 100 million and realise they were not alone.
I wonder what 'real kinksters' blamed before 50SOG?
I read the book 'Screw the Roses Give me the Thorns'which was published in 1995 and that has a section on unsuitable BDSM types, and is even handed between genders.
I suppose the 'real kinksters' in the 18 century cursed the Marquis De Sade for the influx of wannabees at their munches and events. 'They are not really kinky, they have just read Justine or 120 days of Sodom'. They would mutter.
I am not a fan of 50SOG and the writing is so bad I could not make past page 10. But have met too many women who have said it got them into the scene and made them realise they are not sick or strange. That is a good thing in my books.
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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It's a marmite situation. As many hate as love the books and the films. Personally I have only seen the first film. I found it ok. I attempted to read the book and thought it the biggest pile of crap I ever laid my hands on. Reads like it was written by a 5 year old. It would not have got published if it wasn't for the subject matter in my opinion. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"50 Shades of Shit.
Written by a middle aged sexy ally frustrated woman for the titillation of sexually frustrated middle aged women.
Bloody film has a lot to answer fr for spawning out a herd of BDSM wannabes.
Ooh, You're from Carnoustie. I love it there, stayed at the Kinloch recently. That beach, wow."
Working here - pity you’re not around here at the moment.
I fell asleep shortly before they’d finished agreeing their contract (I think). I doubt that I missed anything. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was part of the Twiligt fanfiction world when FSoG was first being written as a fanfic under the name Master of the Universe. The whole Twific world was awash with these graphic stories involving characters the readers had already fallen in love with. I would guess most of the readers there had never read such sexually detailed stories before - I know I hadn’t - and they were a huge turn on, in fact if you didn’t have ‘lemons’ (sex scenes) in your stories, then you’d struggle to get decent numbers of readers. MoTU was first published by a small independent publisher with links to the fanfic world, I’m guessing meeting the excitement from the original Twific readers to see something they’d loved come into print - but along the way it was obviously recognised that the enjoyment of the sexual openness in books would cause similar excitement in the general population as it had within the fanfic world. Which is exactly what happened. Yes, it’s a work of fiction and no, it’s not particularly well written, but it captured millions of women’s imaginations (and I suspect more for the sexual openness and the dynamics of the characters than the D/s element) so who are we to knock it? |
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"I was part of the Twiligt fanfiction world when FSoG was first being written as a fanfic under the name Master of the Universe. The whole Twific world was awash with these graphic stories involving characters the readers had already fallen in love with. I would guess most of the readers there had never read such sexually detailed stories before - I know I hadn’t - and they were a huge turn on, in fact if you didn’t have ‘lemons’ (sex scenes) in your stories, then you’d struggle to get decent numbers of readers. MoTU was first published by a small independent publisher with links to the fanfic world, I’m guessing meeting the excitement from the original Twific readers to see something they’d loved come into print - but along the way it was obviously recognised that the enjoyment of the sexual openness in books would cause similar excitement in the general population as it had within the fanfic world. Which is exactly what happened. Yes, it’s a work of fiction and no, it’s not particularly well written, but it captured millions of women’s imaginations (and I suspect more for the sexual openness and the dynamics of the characters than the D/s element) so who are we to knock it? "
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By (user no longer on site)
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To be honest, I haven't read any of it or seen either of the film's. I know enough people though, and all of them say it's an inaccurate description of the scene, and also that Grey is abusive and not a good representation of what a dominant should be.
In fairness though, Story of O isn't any better at all, and might even appear draconic in comparison. And, The Secretary isn't a great line to go by, especially as the first BDSM moment in the film is a woman just being bent over and spanked, with no talk or negotiation at all. That is more sexual abuse than anything else.
To be honest though, fifty shades didn't really have thousands of people flocking to munches and events at all. I can't say I know one person who came to the fetish scene because of the book/film, apart for this one guy who turned up to a munch once to secretly do research for a book he was writing. At most, it probably had couples going to some mainstream sex stores, buying some toys that aren't dangerous, and having restrained sessions in their own home, after doing some research on the internet. Thankfully, we live in an age where people can get information on just about anything within seconds, and I like to think that people have the common sense to read up on what they are going to do, first |
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"Watching it for the first (and last time).
Synopsis:
Sexually vulnerable 15yr old boy groomed and abused by family friend grows up and turns abuser, grooming and preying on vulnerable young woman for his own gratification.
Not sure I can watch this any further - Have I missed anything?"
Spoiler alert..don't worry, I'm never going to watch it really. It never apealed to me. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was part of the Twiligt fanfiction world when FSoG was first being written as a fanfic under the name Master of the Universe. The whole Twific world was awash with these graphic stories involving characters the readers had already fallen in love with. I would guess most of the readers there had never read such sexually detailed stories before - I know I hadn’t - and they were a huge turn on, in fact if you didn’t have ‘lemons’ (sex scenes) in your stories, then you’d struggle to get decent numbers of readers. MoTU was first published by a small independent publisher with links to the fanfic world, I’m guessing meeting the excitement from the original Twific readers to see something they’d loved come into print - but along the way it was obviously recognised that the enjoyment of the sexual openness in books would cause similar excitement in the general population as it had within the fanfic world. Which is exactly what happened. Yes, it’s a work of fiction and no, it’s not particularly well written, but it captured millions of women’s imaginations (and I suspect more for the sexual openness and the dynamics of the characters than the D/s element) so who are we to knock it? "
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Just a load of stereotypical romantic nonsense. Let’s just keep it real and imagine this.... He was abused at a young age, so turned to booze and drugs, ended up unemployed, very little money and lives alone in a caravan in the arse end of nowhere. Does he still get the girl?
Mr x |
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As twilight fan fic it's actually very clever. Not the greatest writing admittedly but the way she lifted vampire and replaced with kinky sex while keeping all other story points, personalities, relationships and locations on track to the original is the fun I got from reading it.
The sex scenes were meh after a couple as they were quite samey. I liked the way some of the scene locations were replicated between the two films and how the ending of the second film of 50SOG mirrored the ending of the first Twilight. |
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"Just a load of stereotypical romantic nonsense. Let’s just keep it real and imagine this.... He was abused at a young age, so turned to booze and drugs, ended up unemployed, very little money and lives alone in a caravan in the arse end of nowhere. Does he still get the girl?
Mr x"
Depends where his caravan is and whether he still looks fit 
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"Just a load of stereotypical romantic nonsense. Let’s just keep it real and imagine this.... He was abused at a young age, so turned to booze and drugs, ended up unemployed, very little money and lives alone in a caravan in the arse end of nowhere. Does he still get the girl?
Mr x"
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"Watching it for the first (and last time).
Synopsis:
Sexually vulnerable 15yr old boy groomed and abused by family friend grows up and turns abuser, grooming and preying on vulnerable young woman for his own gratification.
Not sure I can watch this any further - Have I missed anything?
So you believe BDSM is abuse then.
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The film comes across as abuse |
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By *ugby 123Couple
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I attempted to read the book and thought it the biggest pile of crap I ever laid my hands on. Reads like it was written by a 5 year old.
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I agree, although I can't not read a book once I have started on the hope that it might get better, it didn't |
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"To be honest, I haven't read any of it or seen either of the film's. I know enough people though, and all of them say it's an inaccurate description of the scene, and also that Grey is abusive and not a good representation of what a dominant should be.
In fairness though, Story of O isn't any better at all, and might even appear draconic in comparison. And, The Secretary isn't a great line to go by, especially as the first BDSM moment in the film is a woman just being bent over and spanked, with no talk or negotiation at all. That is more sexual abuse than anything else.
To be honest though, fifty shades didn't really have thousands of people flocking to munches and events at all. I can't say I know one person who came to the fetish scene because of the book/film, apart for this one guy who turned up to a munch once to secretly do research for a book he was writing. At most, it probably had couples going to some mainstream sex stores, buying some toys that aren't dangerous, and having restrained sessions in their own home, after doing some research on the internet. Thankfully, we live in an age where people can get information on just about anything within seconds, and I like to think that people have the common sense to read up on what they are going to do, first"
I think the elitist Swingers and BDSM types that think they invented sex/ fetish are just upset that they're not the only ones having fun.
The books empowered many women into being able to ask for what they want sexually. They were able to use the 'excuse' of the story rather than admit they secretly want to be tied up or even enjoy sex.
Who gives a shit if the books were crap, the overall effect was brilliant.
I think it's incredibly sad that some people think it's ok to look down on women (and men) that were able to improve their sex lives.
But hey... you Swingers invented sex and own the rights to it huh!!  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To be honest, I haven't read any of it or seen either of the film's. I know enough people though, and all of them say it's an inaccurate description of the scene, and also that Grey is abusive and not a good representation of what a dominant should be.
In fairness though, Story of O isn't any better at all, and might even appear draconic in comparison. And, The Secretary isn't a great line to go by, especially as the first BDSM moment in the film is a woman just being bent over and spanked, with no talk or negotiation at all. That is more sexual abuse than anything else.
To be honest though, fifty shades didn't really have thousands of people flocking to munches and events at all. I can't say I know one person who came to the fetish scene because of the book/film, apart for this one guy who turned up to a munch once to secretly do research for a book he was writing. At most, it probably had couples going to some mainstream sex stores, buying some toys that aren't dangerous, and having restrained sessions in their own home, after doing some research on the internet. Thankfully, we live in an age where people can get information on just about anything within seconds, and I like to think that people have the common sense to read up on what they are going to do, first
I think the elitist Swingers and BDSM types that think they invented sex/ fetish are just upset that they're not the only ones having fun.
The books empowered many women into being able to ask for what they want sexually. They were able to use the 'excuse' of the story rather than admit they secretly want to be tied up or even enjoy sex.
Who gives a shit if the books were crap, the overall effect was brilliant.
I think it's incredibly sad that some people think it's ok to look down on women (and men) that were able to improve their sex lives.
But hey... you Swingers invented sex and own the rights to it huh!! "
It causes me frustration that in the bdsm scene no-one seems to be able to agree the meaning of certain words or phrases. However I am able to handle that frustration by reminding myself that people are free to define themselves and their relationships in the kink scene. This self-definition is one of the key beauties of bdsm. If you are doing it differently but safely, consensually and not imposing on others you are not doing it wrong, you doing it how it pleases you and your play partner(s) which must be key thing.
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"To be honest, I haven't read any of it or seen either of the film's. I know enough people though, and all of them say it's an inaccurate description of the scene, and also that Grey is abusive and not a good representation of what a dominant should be.
In fairness though, Story of O isn't any better at all, and might even appear draconic in comparison. And, The Secretary isn't a great line to go by, especially as the first BDSM moment in the film is a woman just being bent over and spanked, with no talk or negotiation at all. That is more sexual abuse than anything else.
To be honest though, fifty shades didn't really have thousands of people flocking to munches and events at all. I can't say I know one person who came to the fetish scene because of the book/film, apart for this one guy who turned up to a munch once to secretly do research for a book he was writing. At most, it probably had couples going to some mainstream sex stores, buying some toys that aren't dangerous, and having restrained sessions in their own home, after doing some research on the internet. Thankfully, we live in an age where people can get information on just about anything within seconds, and I like to think that people have the common sense to read up on what they are going to do, first
I think the elitist Swingers and BDSM types that think they invented sex/ fetish are just upset that they're not the only ones having fun.
The books empowered many women into being able to ask for what they want sexually. They were able to use the 'excuse' of the story rather than admit they secretly want to be tied up or even enjoy sex.
Who gives a shit if the books were crap, the overall effect was brilliant.
I think it's incredibly sad that some people think it's ok to look down on women (and men) that were able to improve their sex lives.
But hey... you Swingers invented sex and own the rights to it huh!!
It causes me frustration that in the bdsm scene no-one seems to be able to agree the meaning of certain words or phrases. However I am able to handle that frustration by reminding myself that people are free to define themselves and their relationships in the kink scene. This self-definition is one of the key beauties of bdsm. If you are doing it differently but safely, consensually and not imposing on others you are not doing it wrong, you doing it how it pleases you and your play partner(s) which must be key thing.
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