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over a year ago
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"Yes, I’ve been trained on two occasions at work to be able to give someone CPR  "
Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, I’ve been trained on two occasions at work to be able to give someone CPR
Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools "
My son was taught in primary school
I’ve been taught frequently due to work
hope I never have to do it for real! |
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Yes, I've done a few First Aid at Work courses. The trouble with the speed is that for Nellie The Elephant I keep remembering the Toy Dolls punk version. And singing "Another One Bites The Dust" as the poor chap slips into a coma could be bad too, the hearing is usually the last sense to work so he'll be aware of it  |
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"I only remember some bits, I need to re-trained."
30 rapid depression over the centre of the chest followed by mouth to mouth two rescue breaths whilst nipping the patients nose .....
Repeat until help arrives |
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"I'm qualified to administer shocks as well  "
The defibrillator machines are foolproof and talk you through the process. If you need to use one and are not trained, have a go. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, I’ve been trained on two occasions at work to be able to give someone CPR
Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools "
Good idea!
I think we'll promote you to the position of minister for education.
I am still trying to work out the maths challenge about 2nd breakfasts though! I thought 3rd breakfasts was lunch so haven't been counting it!
Yes, to the question. I did a first aid course a few weeks ago. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'm qualified to administer shocks as well
The defibrillator machines are foolproof and talk you through the process. If you need to use one and are not trained, have a go. "
Not the ones we use in hospital thank you.
You need to be trained on them in order to give shocks |
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"Yes, I’ve been trained on two occasions at work to be able to give someone CPR
Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools
Good idea!
I think we'll promote you to the position of minister for education.
I am still trying to work out the maths challenge about 2nd breakfasts though! I thought 3rd breakfasts was lunch so haven't been counting it!
Yes, to the question. I did a first aid course a few weeks ago."
I had first breakfast at 5 o'clock....
I'll be having 2nd breakfast at 09:30....
3rd breakfast will occur around 11:00 |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, I’ve been trained on two occasions at work to be able to give someone CPR
Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools
Good idea!
I think we'll promote you to the position of minister for education.
I am still trying to work out the maths challenge about 2nd breakfasts though! I thought 3rd breakfasts was lunch so haven't been counting it!
Yes, to the question. I did a first aid course a few weeks ago.
I had first breakfast at 5 o'clock....
I'll be having 2nd breakfast at 09:30....
3rd breakfast will occur around 11:00 "
I've got a lot to learn and, some catching up to do. I haven't even had 1st breakfast yet!  |
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"I can read rhythms on a manual defib, administer live saving drugs and lead a cardiac arrest.
All in a days work "
These days many defibrillator have voice prompting which instructs the user where to place each pad ..... if the pad is incorrectly placed the machine instructs the use to move it to the correct location....
They are very good ...... many large shops have them next to the fire extinguishers |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools "
In america everyone is taught CPR at school and every public building has t have a defibrillator.
And as a result the survival rate of out of hospital cardiac arrests is much higher thean here.
I cannot see any reason why it isn't taught here |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools
In america everyone is taught CPR at school and every public building has t have a defibrillator.
And as a result the survival rate of out of hospital cardiac arrests is much higher thean here.
I cannot see any reason why it isn't taught here"
That's really good..
Perhaps they should teach them how to apply pressure to gun shot wounds /.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Not first aid trained, but if I found myself in that situation on my own it would take less than 10 seconds to get a YouTube video guide and follow that.
I've heard about doing the compression to the best of staying alive by the bee gees.
I did complete training as a mental health first aider recently which was pretty eye opening |
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I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving?? |
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"Not first aid trained, but if I found myself in that situation on my own it would take less than 10 seconds to get a YouTube video guide and follow that.
I've heard about doing the compression to the best of staying alive by the bee gees.
I did complete training as a mental health first aider recently which was pretty eye opening "
Way too slow, aim for 100 compressions a minute, sing ( in your head, save your breath for the mouth to mouth) Kellie the Elephant and do the compressions to that rhythm. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??"
If an arrest occurs in public, you can do cpr, if a DNACPR is active you will not be penalised due to acting in the best interest of the patient.
In a clinical setting it's a little more complicated then that |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??"
Any police officer, paramedic, nurse, doctor, etc will do CPR unless they see an actual physical copy of the DNAR paperwork in which case CPR is not attempted or stopped.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??"
Come across these daily, mainly at nursing homes or hospice
They are legally binding providing they are signed by GP or consultant and in date and you actually have the original not a copy and the review date is filled in
Must be in your possession to give you authority not to commence CPR
Known as the red form |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
Come across these daily, mainly at nursing homes or hospice
They are legally binding providing they are signed by GP or consultant and in date and you actually have the original not a copy and the review date is filled in
Must be in your possession to give you authority not to commence CPR
Known as the red form "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, I’ve been trained on two occasions at work to be able to give someone CPR
Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools "
The figure of failed attempts is indicative of the fact that CPR can only do much to save someone.
Basic furst aid training in the workplace us just that...sprains, cuts minor breaks. Nine of its really life threatening.
You need proper equipment to keep people alive..defib,igels, opa's blah blah blah.
More defibs in public places along with proper training for schools etc not tick the box stuff.
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
Come across these daily, mainly at nursing homes or hospice
They are legally binding providing they are signed by GP or consultant and in date and you actually have the original not a copy and the review date is filled in
Must be in your possession to give you authority not to commence CPR
Known as the red form "
Interesting, I guess there are particular criteria like diagnosis of a terminal illness or a degenerative disease with poor life expectancy? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??"
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"okay I heard most of u have tried it just wondering how many of you knows what CPR stands for be honest "
Does it matter?
If someone is fully trained and can deliver CPR effectively who genuinely gives a fuck if they remember what it stands for |
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho."
I do find it controversial (& a ridiculous legal anomaly) …what a headache for medical professionals who are trained to save people... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes, I’ve been trained on two occasions at work to be able to give someone CPR
Good ...... the figures of failed attempts are staggering .....
You'd think training would be mandatory in schools
The figure of failed attempts is indicative of the fact that CPR can only do much to save someone.
Basic furst aid training in the workplace us just that...sprains, cuts minor breaks. Nine of its really life threatening.
You need proper equipment to keep people alive..defib,igels, opa's blah blah blah.
More defibs in public places along with proper training for schools etc not tick the box stuff.
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I did my first aid training last week. The instructor told us that it is all about saving lives. Heartbeat, breathing,bleeding then bones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho.
I do find it controversial (& a ridiculous legal anomaly) …what a headache for medical professionals who are trained to save people..."
True ...but there needs to be a balance between dignity for life and what is practically possiable the problem with the LCP was it was a quick and easy getout for community nurses tbh. |
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho.
I do find it controversial (& a ridiculous legal anomaly) …what a headache for medical professionals who are trained to save people...
True ...but there needs to be a balance between dignity for life and what is practically possiable the problem with the LCP was it was a quick and easy getout for community nurses tbh."
I know…I have to stop thinking now before I get all morbid & existential…la lala…Chocolate Cake  |
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho.
I do find it controversial (& a ridiculous legal anomaly) …what a headache for medical professionals who are trained to save people...
True ...but there needs to be a balance between dignity for life and what is practically possiable the problem with the LCP was it was a quick and easy getout for community nurses tbh.
I know…I have to stop thinking now before I get all morbid & existential…la lala…Chocolate Cake "
Apart from having a DNACRP you also have to
Look at the element of futility....this is extremely difficult in paediatric cases..in fact it's horrible |
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I admire the strength and determination shown by people who perform CPR regularly on complete strangers.
I've seen it done once, on my beloved elderly neighbour 2yr ago, I arrived shortly after the emergency responder, I knew straight away that she had left us, but the paramedic was working frantically on her for a good 40 minutes and I passed equipment as necessary until an ambulance arrived to assist, when her family arrived I stood by the bedroom door, calmly shook my head and said they were working on her, I couldn't move, I felt as though I had to protect her family from seeing such a distressing scene, but i couldn't leave her alone with strangers, after she had been 'called' and cleaned up (ruptured artery from angina) I stepped back to let the family in, and went back home to wake my wife and give her the bad news, I stayed emotionless until after the funeral directors had left, went home and broke down in tears, it was one of the hardest things I had to do, and remember it vividly, with occasional nightmares, I'm in tears just writing this 
Paramedics, doctors, nurses ect really are superheroes! |
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho.
I do find it controversial (& a ridiculous legal anomaly) …what a headache for medical professionals who are trained to save people...
True ...but there needs to be a balance between dignity for life and what is practically possiable the problem with the LCP was it was a quick and easy getout for community nurses tbh.
I know…I have to stop thinking now before I get all morbid & existential…la lala…Chocolate Cake
Apart from having a DNACRP you also have to
Look at the element of futility....this is extremely difficult in paediatric cases..in fact it's horrible"
Again…lalala Chocolate Cake & butterflies (quick)... |
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho.
I do find it controversial (& a ridiculous legal anomaly) …what a headache for medical professionals who are trained to save people...
True ...but there needs to be a balance between dignity for life and what is practically possiable the problem with the LCP was it was a quick and easy getout for community nurses tbh.
I know…I have to stop thinking now before I get all morbid & existential…la lala…Chocolate Cake
Apart from having a DNACRP you also have to
Look at the element of futility....this is extremely difficult in paediatric cases..in fact it's horrible
Again…lalala Chocolate Cake & butterflies (quick)..."
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"I think its very interesting that everyone assumes that someone requiring CPR (or live saving intervention) would want to be 'saved' or resuscitated.
I'm sure that it would be true for most people,but not everyone. Some people do register DNRs (Do not resuscitate instructions) but I don't think they're legally enforceable (unless you're placed on the Liverpool Pathway) Anyone come across this when life saving??
The liverpool care pathway is no longer in place ...the DNACPR policey is not in statute howvever is thought to be good practice ...you may find that is controversial tho.
I do find it controversial (& a ridiculous legal anomaly) …what a headache for medical professionals who are trained to save people...
True ...but there needs to be a balance between dignity for life and what is practically possiable the problem with the LCP was it was a quick and easy getout for community nurses tbh.
I know…I have to stop thinking now before I get all morbid & existential…la lala…Chocolate Cake
Apart from having a DNACRP you also have to
Look at the element of futility....this is extremely difficult in paediatric cases..in fact it's horrible"
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"I admire the strength and determination shown by people who perform CPR regularly on complete strangers.
I've seen it done once, on my beloved elderly neighbour 2yr ago, I arrived shortly after the emergency responder, I knew straight away that she had left us, but the paramedic was working frantically on her for a good 40 minutes and I passed equipment as necessary until an ambulance arrived to assist, when her family arrived I stood by the bedroom door, calmly shook my head and said they were working on her, I couldn't move, I felt as though I had to protect her family from seeing such a distressing scene, but i couldn't leave her alone with strangers, after she had been 'called' and cleaned up (ruptured artery from angina) I stepped back to let the family in, and went back home to wake my wife and give her the bad news, I stayed emotionless until after the funeral directors had left, went home and broke down in tears, it was one of the hardest things I had to do, and remember it vividly, with occasional nightmares, I'm in tears just writing this
Paramedics, doctors, nurses ect really are superheroes!"
Aah,...hugs... yes they are great, in our experience! |
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"I only remember some bits, I need to re-trained.
30 rapid depression over the centre of the chest followed by mouth to mouth two rescue breaths whilst nipping the patients nose .....
Repeat until help arrives "
It's very tiring . Ten minutes seems like an eternity. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yes and advanced life support trained, part and parcel of my job.
I really do believe that basic support should be incorporated in school education."
Great idea |
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30 compressions
2 breaths 