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Ban on gas cookers and boilers!
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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OK it's to happen in 2050 so in reality it probably will not effect me too much.
But after the diesel ban on the way..do you think this is do-able?
And also could you give up easily on cooking on gas?
Your thoughts on this?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4975676/Ban-gas-cookers-boilers-2050-hit-green-target.html |
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I often cook on an electric aga. (Whoopeee I hear you say) but bare with me.
You can't turn the heat up and down like a normal cooker, you can increase the heat but will take almost 30 minutes to see a difference.
While it heats part of the house as it's constantly on in autmun/winter/spring it costs about £25 a week in electric.
Gas is much easier to cook on as you get instant results in temperature change it can be done with electric.
What they going to do about Gas bottle bbqs?
Or bottled gas for caravans etc? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I often cook on an electric aga. (Whoopeee I hear you say) but bare with me.
You can't turn the heat up and down like a normal cooker, you can increase the heat but will take almost 30 minutes to see a difference.
While it heats part of the house as it's constantly on in autmun/winter/spring it costs about £25 a week in electric.
Gas is much easier to cook on as you get instant results in temperature change it can be done with electric.
What they going to do about Gas bottle bbqs?
Or bottled gas for caravans etc?"
I think bottle gas will be fazed out too as it's all to do with carbon emissions.
I myself at this time have a electric cooker and I hate it....not sure about halogen ones but the conventional ones are a nightmare to control....as you have to stand over them for ages,otherwise the bloody pans spill over getting them to a simmer  |
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"By 2050 I plan to be cooking my meals on an open fire in the middle of bumfuck nowhere so I really won't care  "
We're all electric now, so yes it's do-able and will cut our dependence on foreign fuel. The UK receives 750 times more power than it uses from the sun, we just need to harness that better. |
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Farmers rely on diesel to farm with current 'high yield & fuck the quality of produce' methods.
I've been predicting a collapse in farming & then a subsequent lifestyle revolution for years….its been my argument for stockpiling shoes, clothes, handbags & beauty products  I still want to make a good impression, even post apocalypse
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"Anyone selling a generator??
A diesel one?
Bugger I should have read down before posting the last one "
Mine was 2stroke, great for camping at the racetrack, shame it wasn't powerful enough to boil a kettle. Smelled lovely tho. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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What power are they going to use? How are they going to get it to us?
They are talking about banning petrol and diesel cars - but we can't move to electric ones because the national grid is far to weak to supply homes with car charging points....
Where I live, in a mountain village, we already suffer a lot with total power failures in winter, when the load becomes too much...
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"Anyone selling a generator??
A diesel one?
Bugger I should have read down before posting the last one
Mine was 2stroke, great for camping at the racetrack, shame it wasn't powerful enough to boil a kettle. Smelled lovely tho."
Well we haven't got enough electricity generating infrastructure now let alone for when all our cars are electric etc. We will each need a diesel powered generator for sure |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anyone selling a generator??
A diesel one?
Bugger I should have read down before posting the last one
Mine was 2stroke, great for camping at the racetrack, shame it wasn't powerful enough to boil a kettle. Smelled lovely tho."
People trying to boil kettles on them little under 2kwh...have buggered a lot of genny's  |
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"Anyone selling a generator??
A diesel one?
Bugger I should have read down before posting the last one
Mine was 2stroke, great for camping at the racetrack, shame it wasn't powerful enough to boil a kettle. Smelled lovely tho.
People trying to boil kettles on them little under 2kwh...have buggered a lot of genny's "
It was cheap and powered the caravan, went old school and waited for kettle to whistle on the camping gas cooker  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nothings going to be banned,,,,,,
Who's going to pay for the enforcement officers uniforms ....... 
Ha ha ha…absolutely…we're getting way ahead of ourselves! "
They will demand clipboards and cycle clips and locks .......
The interview process will only be applicable those who talk nasally have trainspotting as their main hobby |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Nothings going to be banned,,,,,,
Who's going to pay for the enforcement officers uniforms ....... "
Haha...feck off soxy I haven't the energy for you today |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nothings going to be banned,,,,,,
Who's going to pay for the enforcement officers uniforms .......
Haha...feck off soxy I haven't the energy for you today"
You've never had the energy for me.....
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Nothings going to be banned,,,,,,
Who's going to pay for the enforcement officers uniforms .......
Haha...feck off soxy I haven't the energy for you today
You've never had the energy for me.....
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I was going to call you a bit.. but on second thoughts |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nothings going to be banned,,,,,,
Who's going to pay for the enforcement officers uniforms .......
Haha...feck off soxy I haven't the energy for you today
You've never had the energy for me.....
I was going to call you a bit.. but on second thoughts"
ch....... |
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Probably going to be much greater proportion of locally generated carbon neural power, including electricity then. But it's so far off, the UK may be a third world nation, after a clueless Brexit and major differences due to climate change everywhere.
If the motivation is right, it's then about realizing the strategy in ways that everyone is comfortable with. The world can change significantly in over 30 years, technology, cultural habits etc. |
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"We have a electric cooker and a halogen oven we use alot so not a problem for us.
Not used halogen. ..maybe that is the way forward "
I love using my halogen it's quick and uses alot less electricity. |
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"OK it's to happen in 2050 so in reality it probably will not effect me too much.
But after the diesel ban on the way..do you think this is do-able?
And also could you give up easily on cooking on gas?
Your thoughts on this?
Article Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4975676/Ban-gas-cookers-boilers-2050-hit-green-target.html"
The article actually says "should be" not, "is going to be" so I wouldn't worry to much about it. There is a lot that politicians say that never happens.....usually just before an election |
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By (user no longer on site)
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There is no diesel ban , this is spread by poor press .
Hgvs , farm machinery are at least 30 years away from battery technology to power them . I my self drive a crew cab pick up and tow a trailer with machinery on it . battery technology is a long way from solving are problems . |
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By *ammyDodgaMan
over a year ago
Nottingham/and everywhere my location says i am ;) |
"I'll be pushing daisies by then so I won't worry about my income from fixing all those pesky boilers.... Ban away.
No. You won't. "
Bloody better be, if I can't get paid for tweaking some nipples and adjusting leaking flanges. Then my worlds over with |
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"There is no diesel ban , this is spread by poor press .
Hgvs , farm machinery are at least 30 years away from battery technology to power them . I my self drive a crew cab pick up and tow a trailer with machinery on it . battery technology is a long way from solving are problems . "
Plus if you actually look into the manufacture of the batteries! It’s more damaging to the environment than your standard car |
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You pre suppose that society is still going to exist in it's present form by then.
This is, of course, becoming more and more unlikely as we are passing peak oil about now, we've plundered pretty much everything we can from developing countries and the UK debt is unsustainable.
Our excessive consumption will have to be reduced and one giant solar flare or nuclear explosion can put out the world's IT infrastructure and power supplies. Anarchy in the streets in 72 hours as no food, electric or fuel anywhere.
Not as far fetched as it may sound. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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yes it mostly to happen.
All we going to eat is, few tablets per day and some water and we will be wearing oxygen cylinder to inhale to survive in this world, all the fncking billionaires will be in the space station or in Mars, rest all will either die.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Been watching Gattaca or Elysium this afternoon by any chance have ya Ranger?!? 
what is that?  "
Just googled it, so there is a movie out already about what i said... i am sure that is how we going to end up unfortunately. it will either happen in 2045 or 2054 I wish i die before that... |
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"There is no diesel ban , this is spread by poor press .
Hgvs , farm machinery are at least 30 years away from battery technology to power them . I my self drive a crew cab pick up and tow a trailer with machinery on it . battery technology is a long way from solving are problems .
Plus if you actually look into the manufacture of the batteries! It’s more damaging to the environment than your standard car "
Yep them open cast lithium mines and the carbon footprint of battery production is frightening. Still it's the in thing so that's ok then ..... |
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By *ammyDodgaMan
over a year ago
Nottingham/and everywhere my location says i am ;) |
Well, Mr Shell just needs to release the patent on the hydrogen fusion engine they hold and An the world will be all gravy........
Oops, silly me.. Free energy.. How will they survive  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"You pre suppose that society is still going to exist in it's present form by then.
This is, of course, becoming more and more unlikely as we are passing peak oil about now, we've plundered pretty much everything we can from developing countries and the UK debt is unsustainable.
Our excessive consumption will have to be reduced and one giant solar flare or nuclear explosion can put out the world's IT infrastructure and power supplies. Anarchy in the streets in 72 hours as no food, electric or fuel anywhere.
Not as far fetched as it may sound."
It might surprise you that we are actually on 7 days away from no food in Europe . If there was a natural or man made disaster . We do no longer stock pile food . |
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"It might surprise you that we are actually on 7 days away from no food in Europe . If there was a natural or man made disaster . We do no longer stock pile food . "
No surprise there for us. JUst surprised that many don't see how fragile things are becoming
Google for Surplus Energy Economics
How the economy REALLY works by Tim Morgan for a scary read.
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My parents in Bulgaria don't have gas at all in fact I doubt many people have gas in their village..in the winter months my mum cooks on the log fire which also heats the bungalows radiators. The logs cost about £200 And last all winter with a few left over for next year. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If Nicola Tesla's ideas and inventions has been allowed to happen 80 years ago we would be coal and gas free now but as usual there was and is too much money to be made from them that he was silenced by governments. Basically he invented free electricity. Very very clever man. Albert Einstein was once asked what it was like to be a genius and his reply was "I dont know, ask Nicola Tesla". |
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By *ack2071Man
over a year ago
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"What power are they going to use? How are they going to get it to us?
They are talking about banning petrol and diesel cars - but we can't move to electric ones because the national grid is far to weak to supply homes with car charging points....
Where I live, in a mountain village, we already suffer a lot with total power failures in winter, when the load becomes too much...
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Wind farms and solar power , unless they destroy the world via fracking before usa and korea go for round two . |
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