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over a year ago
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"Too bloody expensive now!  "
I agree very expensive....
I think I'd rather invest that sort of money in an Airstream caravan .... I know they cost a small fortune but as an investment they far exceed a camper and you can park them up on site while you explore the area your visiting rather than dragging around the stinking contents of a septic tank,,,,,  |
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over a year ago
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Uses to. It got crushed... Still makes me sad. Totally impractical, a complete drain on cash but brilliant fun.
I have a couple of friends with show standard split screens that are worth a small fortune |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I wish I did, just for novelty and investment value. Instead, I've got an old hi-top lwb transit van chasis that's in need of an engine and conversion before we go touring |
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I think there's a bit of old romance & nostalgia with VW vans.
I've always wanted one, have hired a couple of times when the kids were little & we had great fun but having recently stayed in a friend's motor home, I realised how impractical they are in comparison. |
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over a year ago
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I have so much regret after selling my old type 2. How I miss the overheating problems, no brakes, sloppy steering and a top speed of 50mph (with the wind blowing me along as well) hahaha. But then I could always make a fry up or a brew whilst stuck in traffic lol  |
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By *nd-D OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Ours is a T5 Autosleeper it even has a shower and loo, not quite the traditional split screen but we love it all the same , it oooozes Freedom and Escapes and Nookey "
We have a T4 Autosleeper Trooper ( pop top )
We love it and go everywhere in it . |
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Got a T4 few Facebook groups for campers and I’ve always wondered if there are any swingers in the group haha
The vans handy for traveling to clubs further down south and saves us getting hotels and using taxis back n forward
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"Not currently but if I ever won the lottery then yes. I see loads of lovely ones as live close to a garage that only works on them."
They aren’t that expensive tbh, picked ours up cheap and they are easily converted if you buy a base van
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"Not currently but if I ever won the lottery then yes. I see loads of lovely ones as live close to a garage that only works on them.
They aren’t that expensive tbh, picked ours up cheap and they are easily converted if you buy a base van
John "
Is it cheaper to buy a t4/t5 van and have it converted rather than buy one that is already converted? |
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I have a T5. I got the van as a pre registered vehicle but with no miles on it and had it converted by the countries largest converter. Saved nearly £10k on dealer prices for an identical camper.
I rent it out some of the time to help mitigate the cost. The demand is so great that I am looking round for a decent T2 just to rent out. |
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"Not currently but if I ever won the lottery then yes. I see loads of lovely ones as live close to a garage that only works on them.
They aren’t that expensive tbh, picked ours up cheap and they are easily converted if you buy a base van
John
Is it cheaper to buy a t4/t5 van and have it converted rather than buy one that is already converted?"
Yup plus you get the joys of doing the work yourself and picking it all as you go so it’s personalised for you
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Had a bay window1973 camper, blew 2 engines to bits , so got rid of air cooled crap and fitted a skooby doo in it, lowered it uprated the brakes , it was scary how quick it was. |
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I brought a Vauxhall Vivaro LWB HR professionally converted campervan this year from a dealer. The same spec in a VW was £15k more.. . To be honest I now quite like it but would love a T5  who wouldn't! |
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"Not currently but if I ever won the lottery then yes. I see loads of lovely ones as live close to a garage that only works on them.
They aren’t that expensive tbh, picked ours up cheap and they are easily converted if you buy a base van
John
Is it cheaper to buy a t4/t5 van and have it converted rather than buy one that is already converted?
Yup plus you get the joys of doing the work yourself and picking it all as you go so it’s personalised for you
John "
Prices are constantly on the up and can't decide on a t4 or a t5. Would like a 2.5 lwb. Hopefully prices will settle when winter sets in. |
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"T4 self built from builders van.
Is it cost effective compared to buying one with Windows and already converted? "
Cost 2k for the van and another 600 to get the rnr bed, cupboards, side window fitted and carpeted inside.
Same already done would of been twice as much.
Just did a bit at a time. |
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By *evaquitCouple
over a year ago
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Had a serious look into them and tbh still considering. We love the VW reliability and the fact you can travel like a car, covering a lot of area but the expense puts you in campervan territory, however, you can't take them everywhere like the camper. So many decisions, might just get a tourer caravan and bite the bullet on time, but we don't want too, grrr. Truth be told if we had £40,000 spare cash we'd have the camper......Sorry for not helping much.  |
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"Had a serious look into them and tbh still considering. We love the VW reliability and the fact you can travel like a car, covering a lot of area but the expense puts you in campervan territory, however, you can't take them everywhere like the camper. So many decisions, might just get a tourer caravan and bite the bullet on time, but we don't want too, grrr. Truth be told if we had £40,000 spare cash we'd have the camper......Sorry for not helping much. "
I'm torn myself. I've seen a camper for sale. A Mercedes lwb sprinter with all the bells and whistles including a toilet. At 130,000mls on the clock it was only just broken in. For the same price i would be lucky to get a basic T5 builders van. |
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"T4 self built from builders van.
Is it cost effective compared to buying one with Windows and already converted?
Cost 2k for the van and another 600 to get the rnr bed, cupboards, side window fitted and carpeted inside.
Same already done would of been twice as much.
Just did a bit at a time. "
Wow. I didn't realise it was that cheap to have so much work done. The window was the thing i was most concerned about and wondered whether i should be looking for a caravelle to side step that cost. |
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"T4 self built from builders van.
Is it cost effective compared to buying one with Windows and already converted?
Cost 2k for the van and another 600 to get the rnr bed, cupboards, side window fitted and carpeted inside.
Same already done would of been twice as much.
Just did a bit at a time.
Wow. I didn't realise it was that cheap to have so much work done. The window was the thing i was most concerned about and wondered whether i should be looking for a caravelle to side step that cost."
Did all the work ourselves appart from the window.
Worth joining a vw club to get discounts, thats how the window was done. Cheaper than walking in off the street. |
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"Yeah space is an issue especially with a swb but it’s multifunction, I use mine as a daily. Couldn’t goto the shop in a big massive RV 
John "
A daily is what I'm after. I'm not too fussed about having a shower or a toilet onboard. A lwb is a happy medium. |
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"Yeah space is an issue especially with a swb but it’s multifunction, I use mine as a daily. Couldn’t goto the shop in a big massive RV
John
A daily is what I'm after. I'm not too fussed about having a shower or a toilet onboard. A lwb is a happy medium."
You’ll always find shower facilities wherever you go and let’s be honest who needs a cooker etc? Full length Rock n Roll bed in the back and you are sorted
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"Yeah space is an issue especially with a swb but it’s multifunction, I use mine as a daily. Couldn’t goto the shop in a big massive RV
John
A daily is what I'm after. I'm not too fussed about having a shower or a toilet onboard. A lwb is a happy medium.
You’ll always find shower facilities wherever you go and let’s be honest who needs a cooker etc? Full length Rock n Roll bed in the back and you are sorted
John "
Yes i think I'd like a night heater and an ac power point but a large bottle of water, a washing up bowl and a camping stove would do the job of a full kitchen. |
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"Yeah split charge system for sockets etc costs around £300 all in (leisure battery too) and as for a heater plenty doing the rounds for around £150 that directly plum into the fuel tank
John "
I would not plug the heater into the vehicle fuel tank I'd have a separate tank x |
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"Yeah split charge system for sockets etc costs around £300 all in (leisure battery too) and as for a heater plenty doing the rounds for around £150 that directly plum into the fuel tank
John "
Excellent. Great info thankyou John. You've installed confidence to look for a basic van.
So if your budget meant either a late T4 or an early T5, which would you opt for? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A daily is what I'm after. I'm not too fussed about having a shower or a toilet onboard. A lwb is a happy medium."
As you want a daily, if you get a van you might consider getting it registered as a camper, otherwise you will be restricted to the lower van speed limits on A and B roads. To do this, you will need to convert to a minimum camper van standard - the rules are online.
My T4 is an ex-AA van so has the side windows from the factory, but is still registered as a van. I didn't bother registering it as a camper and now have 3 points due to travelling at 54mph in 60mph limit |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yeah split charge system for sockets etc costs around £300 all in (leisure battery too) and as for a heater plenty doing the rounds for around £150 that directly plum into the fuel tank
John
Excellent. Great info thankyou John. You've installed confidence to look for a basic van.
So if your budget meant either a late T4 or an early T5, which would you opt for? "
I would say a T4 over an early T5. As with most vehicles, the first models of a new run tend to have issues that get ironed over a few years.
If you go for a T4, try to find the 5cyl 2.5 tdi. If it's a T5, go for the 4 cyl tdi engines. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Obviously depends on what you're planning to use it for. A toilet is handy for saving middle of the night trips across a site to the loo and allows you to stay at places with no facilities, so broadens your options.
Showers can be done anywhere - £20 powered shower that sticks to the side of the van and connected to cigarette lighter.
Vans like sprinters, ducatos, crafters allow you to stand up inside, get changed more easily and cook indoors when it's raining. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life "
Do it
(But in something more practical than a VW) |
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"Yeah split charge system for sockets etc costs around £300 all in (leisure battery too) and as for a heater plenty doing the rounds for around £150 that directly plum into the fuel tank
John
Excellent. Great info thankyou John. You've installed confidence to look for a basic van.
So if your budget meant either a late T4 or an early T5, which would you opt for?
I would say a T4 over an early T5. As with most vehicles, the first models of a new run tend to have issues that get ironed over a few years.
If you go for a T4, try to find the 5cyl 2.5 tdi. If it's a T5, go for the 4 cyl tdi engines. "
I'd say go with a late T4. Work on both daily si know which one I'd go for. T5's can be real money pits |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life
Do it
(But in something more practical than a VW)"
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By *ineMan
over a year ago
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"I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life
Do it
(But in something more practical than a VW)
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A man cave perhaps  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life
Do it
(But in something more practical than a VW)
A man cave perhaps "
I will be making fire ... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life
Do it
(But in something more practical than a VW)
A man cave perhaps "
If it was equipped with Flintstones style wheels that could work.
Be quicker than a VW too  |
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By *ineMan
over a year ago
In cave behind a waterfall on a hill |
"I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life
Do it
(But in something more practical than a VW)
A man cave perhaps
I will be making fire ..."
On a beach under the stars watching the waves...
Writing stories in the sand to be washed away by the surf..
And drinking tea ... well what did you think the fire was for. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We owned a 1971 bay window bus, it was our pride and joy. We spend a lot of time in Cornwall and Devon as I am a keen surfer. Unfortunatley we sold it when we got on the property ladder 
We did own a T4 for a short while after. I converted it in to a camper van, well I built a bed in the back so we could use it for weekends away. It wasnt the same though. We do have plans to get another air cooled bus in the future.
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"Yeah split charge system for sockets etc costs around £300 all in (leisure battery too) and as for a heater plenty doing the rounds for around £150 that directly plum into the fuel tank
John
Excellent. Great info thankyou John. You've installed confidence to look for a basic van.
So if your budget meant either a late T4 or an early T5, which would you opt for?
I would say a T4 over an early T5. As with most vehicles, the first models of a new run tend to have issues that get ironed over a few years.
If you go for a T4, try to find the 5cyl 2.5 tdi. If it's a T5, go for the 4 cyl tdi engines.
I'd say go with a late T4. Work on both daily si know which one I'd go for. T5's can be real money pits "
So. A low mileage, standard, late model 2.5 long wheelbase T4. Then convert to personal requirements preferably to camper standard so as to be used as a daily runabout.
I think I've learned more on this thread in a few days than i have in the 6 months of being on a number of T4/T5 Facebook groups. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You don't need to register it to a camper, it's just running it as van you are restricted to van speed limits. A lot of people don't realise this and end up getting caught out.
Mine was me forgetting for a few moments and staying with the flow of traffic in a national speed limit (as I would in my car) but as a van I was over the lower 50mph limit. |
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"You don't need to register it to a camper, it's just running it as van you are restricted to van speed limits. A lot of people don't realise this and end up getting caught out.
Mine was me forgetting for a few moments and staying with the flow of traffic in a national speed limit (as I would in my car) but as a van I was over the lower 50mph limit."
Also depending where you live it’s needed ie London etc to get round emissions laws
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By *nd-D OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Yeah split charge system for sockets etc costs around £300 all in (leisure battery too) and as for a heater plenty doing the rounds for around £150 that directly plum into the fuel tank
John
Excellent. Great info thankyou John. You've installed confidence to look for a basic van.
So if your budget meant either a late T4 or an early T5, which would you opt for?
I would say a T4 over an early T5. As with most vehicles, the first models of a new run tend to have issues that get ironed over a few years.
If you go for a T4, try to find the 5cyl 2.5 tdi. If it's a T5, go for the 4 cyl tdi engines.
I'd say go with a late T4. Work on both daily si know which one I'd go for. T5's can be real money pits
So. A low mileage, standard, late model 2.5 long wheelbase T4. Then convert to personal requirements preferably to camper standard so as to be used as a daily runabout.
I think I've learned more on this thread in a few days than i have in the 6 months of being on a number of T4/T5 Facebook groups. "
It’s better than Facebook groups. |
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By *ineMan
over a year ago
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"I seem to live in a neighbourhood full of them. But alas I don't have one. They seem to be mostly kept for show only round here. I dream of parking one up at the coast on a weekend for a bit of rough living and beach life "
For the real authentic experience it really should be a man cave |
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"Good luck with that!
Whenever they hold the VW Vanfest by us the M5 is littered with broken down vans and the AA and RAC are virtually based nearby as I think they know what to expect  "
Reliability is probably the only thing steering me towards a T5 rather than a T4. A mechanic i am definitely not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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T5 for us but it is his work van, but a good few extras added so the do the show scene and have done for a number of years, i do keep asking for him to replace my gti with a camper van so we can go and have some fun in a camper, and I guess it could be a great road trip seeing all the comments on here we could meet some people for fun |
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A real conundrum when you're not mechanically minded. I love the design of the T5 but the money i plan to spend puts us in the late T4 to early T5 bracket. Do i get the best of the old or possibly the worst of the new? |
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By *omez42Man
over a year ago
gloucester |
I'm looking to get something as a weekend van, but T4's are very overpriced, so I'm wondering abou a Mazda Bongo.
Getting a van registered as a camper means you get an extra 10mph on A roads, but more importantly, it drops the insurance premium.
Convincing the dvla that it genuinely is a camper requires evidence of a fitted bed, table & cooker, either 2 burner or microwave. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"A real conundrum when you're not mechanically minded. I love the design of the T5 but the money i plan to spend puts us in the late T4 to early T5 bracket. Do i get the best of the old or possibly the worst of the new? "
Early t5 are pretty bulletproof so long has it’s been looked after, engine changed and belts done |
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"A real conundrum when you're not mechanically minded. I love the design of the T5 but the money i plan to spend puts us in the late T4 to early T5 bracket. Do i get the best of the old or possibly the worst of the new?
Early t5 are pretty bulletproof so long has it’s been looked after, engine changed and belts done "
Any particular early T5 you think i should be looking out for? Someone earlier suggested a 4cyl tdi. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We camped next to a couple with a T5 in the summer. She said that prior to them it had only one previous owner. Unfortunately that owner was an electricity company and while it was one owner, it was hundreds of drivers
Cost her a small fortune getting it in order.
Take any "bulletproof" claims with a lot of salt.
Old ambulances are a good bet and anything similar that requires a strict maintenance and service schedule. |
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By *titch69Man
over a year ago
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I had a T2 in the eighties, lots of fun and expense!
I'm currently looking for a T5 or 6. I went to the show at NEC a few weeks back checking out some great layout- conversion ideas. Got some great advice as well.
Rear tailgates are a better option than barn doors.
Keep you height under 6'6" (2.0m) to get in those car parks and multi-storey's and go for a van with a higher payload... Amazing how much weight a good conversion can add to a vehicle, even before you think of adding bikes etc ! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I work a lot of gigs and part of whether do at some of them is run the camper van fields...
Quite often you'll get one person who breaks down right in a gate or on the road whilst they've been waiting in traffic to get in and the old air cooled motor overheats like hell...or they just break down because they're old and have had so many 'enthusiast' owners tinker with them they've become a Hodge podge of work. The old ones especially I don't get..so much money and you don't get more for it, just the name/brand/'hey look at me I'm a free spirited vw owner' thing
You could get a newer, more reliable, more spacious, quicker quieter van for far less money..
Sure it's all about 'character' or whatever but I just don't see it myself.
I'm sure an actual good example would be good to own but not for the money it would cost. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We had a 1970 early bay window. 1641 big bore, twin Kadrons, teledial wheels, it was my pride and joy and an absolute money pit.
We sold it to get a t4 in the end, which aren't as cool but are much more practical. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Our first camper was a vw bay window. They are a cult vehicle ect ect. But as a usable campervan there way to small
Built my own transit lwb hi top coach built body.
Plenty of room and lots more reliable |
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"Anyone got any shows planned this year?
They might have them planned, but might struggle to get there "
I cover the south west and used to love the build up to the run to the sun event.
Passed so many on the side of the rd broken down or overheated. |
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By *ssey2015Man
over a year ago
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this thread should be kept alive for 2019....
bought at t4 in the summer, work in progress but so proud of what I have done and what I have got,,,,
was a new hobby for me new chapter in life ,,, totally love it... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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strange hoe vw campers were a huge seller backin the day but vw havent made a 2019 version , bit like they did with herbie the beetle..
think theres one coming in 2022 but it looks like a people carrier.
they sould launch a new model based on the original.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"strange hoe vw campers were a huge seller backin the day but vw havent made a 2019 version , bit like they did with herbie the beetle..
think theres one coming in 2022 but it looks like a people carrier.
they sould launch a new model based on the original.."
They have been making new ones for years now.
2things to recognise the New ones which is easy to spot they have new type nuberplates i.e. 06 56 ect unless they put private plates on them.
The other obvious thing is the big v shape on the front is now square.
I thing vw sold copyright and another company now make them |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"strange hoe vw campers were a huge seller backin the day but vw havent made a 2019 version , bit like they did with herbie the beetle..
think theres one coming in 2022 but it looks like a people carrier.
they sould launch a new model based on the original..
They have been making new ones for years now.
2things to recognise the New ones which is easy to spot they have new type nuberplates i.e. 06 56 ect unless they put private plates on them.
The other obvious thing is the big v shape on the front is now square.
I thing vw sold copyright and another company now make them "
there T5's
i mean copy the original.......... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"No, VW still have copyright and actual sue companies if they use it without consent"
someone is still making them as weve seen brand new ones with square fronts instead of the original v shape, maybe that's how they get past the copyrights altering small details on the body |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"strange hoe vw campers were a huge seller backin the day but vw havent made a 2019 version , bit like they did with herbie the beetle..
think theres one coming in 2022 but it looks like a people carrier.
they sould launch a new model based on the original..
They have been making new ones for years now.
2things to recognise the New ones which is easy to spot they have new type nuberplates i.e. 06 56 ect unless they put private plates on them.
The other obvious thing is the big v shape on the front is now square.
I thing vw sold copyright and another company now make them
there T5's
i mean copy the original.........."
the ones we have seen are not t5 they look just like the old style bay window with a different style front |
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"strange hoe vw campers were a huge seller backin the day but vw havent made a 2019 version , bit like they did with herbie the beetle..
think theres one coming in 2022 but it looks like a people carrier.
they sould launch a new model based on the original..
They have been making new ones for years now.
2things to recognise the New ones which is easy to spot they have new type nuberplates i.e. 06 56 ect unless they put private plates on them.
The other obvious thing is the big v shape on the front is now square.
I thing vw sold copyright and another company now make them "
There is talk of VW putting them back into production, they are currently being made by Danbury (coach building company) |
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"strange hoe vw campers were a huge seller backin the day but vw havent made a 2019 version , bit like they did with herbie the beetle..
think theres one coming in 2022 but it looks like a people carrier.
they sould launch a new model based on the original..
They have been making new ones for years now.
2things to recognise the New ones which is easy to spot they have new type nuberplates i.e. 06 56 ect unless they put private plates on them.
The other obvious thing is the big v shape on the front is now square.
I thing vw sold copyright and another company now make them
there T5's
i mean copy the original.......... the ones we have seen are not t5 they look just like the old style bay window with a different style front"
Most probably Brazilian made T2s that have been converted into campers by a company called Danbury in Bristol. Though Brazilian production stopped about five years ago. |
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"strange hoe vw campers were a huge seller backin the day but vw havent made a 2019 version , bit like they did with herbie the beetle..
think theres one coming in 2022 but it looks like a people carrier.
they sould launch a new model based on the original..
They have been making new ones for years now.
2things to recognise the New ones which is easy to spot they have new type nuberplates i.e. 06 56 ect unless they put private plates on them.
The other obvious thing is the big v shape on the front is now square.
I thing vw sold copyright and another company now make them
There is talk of VW putting them back into production, they are currently being made by Danbury (coach building company)"
The electric id buzz. Is one sexy looking van. |
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