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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I'm watching it. Love Lord Richard  "
Just seen it when he found out the bird sanctuary was 5,400 miles away - 5,395 miles outside of his comfort zone |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment."
You're getting this confused with the Archers on Radio 4. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment."
I totally disagree - it's made extremely sensitively and for me at least is one of the most heartwarming programmes on TV.
Much rather watch it than a bunch of fame hungry, orange skinned, pouting wannabes screaming and shouting at each other to try and get the most attention  |
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
I totally disagree - it's made extremely sensitively and for me at least is one of the most heartwarming programmes on TV.
Much rather watch it than a bunch of fame hungry, orange skinned, pouting wannabes screaming and shouting at each other to try and get the most attention "
I must agree. I have been known to shed a happy tear or 20. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"I have been known to shed a happy tear or 20."
As a serial blubber I'm in my element!! There have been some truly wonderful moments over the series and love love love that they always do a catch up programme to see how they're getting on.
The guy from the North East who got married had me in floods as did the "Eastbourne" guy |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
I totally disagree - it's made extremely sensitively and for me at least is one of the most heartwarming programmes on TV.
Much rather watch it than a bunch of fame hungry, orange skinned, pouting wannabes screaming and shouting at each other to try and get the most attention "
I dont watch those oxygen thieves either.... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment."
Ya. I think this too. The name itself Is pretty nasty. |
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
Ya. I think this too. The name itself Is pretty nasty."
I had no idea learning about people and seeing how they have fantastic family support, being totally true to themselves, and watching their confidence grow was such a awful thing.
I find myself willing them on from the edge of my seat and punching the air when things go well for them.
What an evil bitch I must be. I think the way you perceive the it speaks more about yourself than anything else.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
Ya. I think this too. The name itself Is pretty nasty.
I had no idea learning about people and seeing how they have fantastic family support, being totally true to themselves, and watching their confidence grow was such a awful thing.
I find myself willing them on from the edge of my seat and punching the air when things go well for them.
What an evil bitch I must be. I think the way you perceive the it speaks more about yourself than anything else.
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I wouldn't call you evil. Maybe patronising... |
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
Ya. I think this too. The name itself Is pretty nasty.
I had no idea learning about people and seeing how they have fantastic family support, being totally true to themselves, and watching their confidence grow was such a awful thing.
I find myself willing them on from the edge of my seat and punching the air when things go well for them.
What an evil bitch I must be. I think the way you perceive the it speaks more about yourself than anything else.
I wouldn't call you evil. Maybe patronising..."
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
Ya. I think this too. The name itself Is pretty nasty."
The name is actually poking fun at itself as the "Un-" falls off during the opening titles suggesting that everyone is dateable even if they may think they're not.
I've learned so much about certain conditions I knew nothing about through watching the show too - so definitely disagree with any suggestion that it's either a piss-take, a social experiment or the name is nasty etc. - it's bringing subjects like this into the mainstream, that make people more aware and accepting of them, and breaks down barriers and prejudices.
To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
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By (user no longer on site)
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
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That's a shame. |
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By *eliWoman
over a year ago
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" ... it's bringing subjects like this into the mainstream, that make people more aware and accepting of them, and breaks down barriers and prejudices.
To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
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 I have one of the 'disorders' that crops up on the show and I think that the manner in which it shows people is anything but a piss-take. Heart warming and encouraging frequently. It really does fall down to perception though but it's a shame when it's a negative one. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame."
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed? |
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
Ya. I think this too. The name itself Is pretty nasty.
The name is actually poking fun at itself as the "Un-" falls off during the opening titles suggesting that everyone is dateable even if they may think they're not.
I've learned so much about certain conditions I knew nothing about through watching the show too - so definitely disagree with any suggestion that it's either a piss-take, a social experiment or the name is nasty etc. - it's bringing subjects like this into the mainstream, that make people more aware and accepting of them, and breaks down barriers and prejudices.
To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
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I don't think you or I can win here GM. I'm in agreement with your points and I feel as a person I've learned a fair amount, and have gained a huge insight into autism and the different spectrums. I by no means claim to be an expert in the field but I do believe I have a greater understanding.
The last leg, yes, they take the piss etc but it shows the people behind the disability and reminds those who perhaps do have preconceptions, that people are people regardless of their physical form, and that they can have fun! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame.
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed? "
Honestly. If you can't get why the premise of the undatables is patronising as opposed to the paralympics I don't have the necessary time or energy to explain it. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame.
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed?
Honestly. If you can't get why the premise of the undatables is patronising as opposed to the paralympics I don't have the necessary time or energy to explain it."
Now THAT is a shame |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame.
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed?
Honestly. If you can't get why the premise of the undatables is patronising as opposed to the paralympics I don't have the necessary time or energy to explain it.
Now THAT is a shame "
Because of course you aren't so fixed in your opinion that it could be changed. Have some rolling eyes back. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I also love the effort that they go to. I can't remember the last time I was brought flowers!
Hint hint motherfuckers "
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By *eeBee67Man
over a year ago
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A difficult one this.
Yes it shows that love can be found for everyone.
But also I find it very voyeuristic in a "look at these people who we think are different" sort of way.
Would it be different with a change of title.
Not expecting to change anyones opinions with my thoughts, as I think everyone is entitled to their own.
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame.
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed?
Honestly. If you can't get why the premise of the undatables is patronising as opposed to the paralympics I don't have the necessary time or energy to explain it.
Now THAT is a shame
Because of course you aren't so fixed in your opinion that it could be changed. Have some rolling eyes back."
Not at all - as I said I'm genuinely interested to understand why you think that breaking down prejudices and misconceptions via programmes like The Undateables, The Last Leg etc is "a shame" as you put it.
The eye rolling was because you appeared to be uninterested in debating the point yourself, instead resorting to the "I can't be bothered to debate the point" route that you did.
I'm open to having my mind changed question is are you? |
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame.
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed?
Honestly. If you can't get why the premise of the undatables is patronising as opposed to the paralympics I don't have the necessary time or energy to explain it.
Now THAT is a shame
Because of course you aren't so fixed in your opinion that it could be changed. Have some rolling eyes back."
Maybe if you attempted to let others hear your viewpoint you could educate us? Or are we simply too stupid and uneducatable? Genuine interest and wanting to understand, but it's difficult to when you clam up and dismiss. |
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We absolutely love it. So heart warming and we end up cheering them on from the edge of our sofas.
If you feel it’s a piss take, then you’re really missing the point. These people really understand the meaning of true and innocent love and deserve it more than some of the cretins on this site.
I find it educational and a real eye opener into people with learning/physical disabilities and how we must never judge a book by it’s cover.
Lord Richard is a true legend, you gotta love him.
If you fail to see this show for what it truly is, then you must be emotionally retarded. Just saying.
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By (user no longer on site)
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame.
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed?
Honestly. If you can't get why the premise of the undatables is patronising as opposed to the paralympics I don't have the necessary time or energy to explain it.
Now THAT is a shame
Because of course you aren't so fixed in your opinion that it could be changed. Have some rolling eyes back.
Not at all - as I said I'm genuinely interested to understand why you think that breaking down prejudices and misconceptions via programmes like The Undateables, The Last Leg etc is "a shame" as you put it."
and now you're misquoting me. Disingenuous of you. Nah. You're not worth it. |
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By *aterjetWoman
over a year ago
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This is close to home for me and depending on the day I have had depends whether I can watch it or not.
I myself do not like the title, parents spend so long for their children to be included that the "Un" appears as a negative.
On the plus side, education on the different challenges that disabilities,many are hidden can help is only a good thing.
Good to hear you have learnt a fair amount, even as a parent I am still learning!
As for the other post, a piss take it is not,not only have these young adults have to contend with the process of puberty they at the end of the day have yearnings for friends and companionship like myself and you.
It is thought provoking and for that surly it a positive program. |
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"This is close to home for me and depending on the day I have had depends whether I can watch it or not.
I myself do not like the title, parents spend so long for their children to be included that the "Un" appears as a negative.
On the plus side, education on the different challenges that disabilities,many are hidden can help is only a good thing.
Good to hear you have learnt a fair amount, even as a parent I am still learning!
As for the other post, a piss take it is not,not only have these young adults have to contend with the process of puberty they at the end of the day have yearnings for friends and companionship like myself and you.
It is thought provoking and for that surly it a positive program."
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By *aterjetWoman
over a year ago
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"We absolutely love it. So heart warming and we end up cheering them on from the edge of our sofas.
If you feel it’s a piss take, then you’re really missing the point. These people really understand the meaning of true and innocent love and deserve it more than some of the cretins on this site.
I find it educational and a real eye opener into people with learning/physical disabilities and how we must never judge a book by it’s cover.
Lord Richard is a true legend, you gotta love him.
If you fail to see this show for what it truly is, then you must be emotionally retarded. Just saying.
Ed"
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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To take another example - just look at what the Paralympics and programmes like The Last Leg have done to break down people's perceptions and pre-conceptions, and for me The Undateables is no different.
That's a shame.
Genuinely curious to know why you think that's a shame? Is it not good that walls and barriers are removed and perceptions are changed?
Honestly. If you can't get why the premise of the undatables is patronising as opposed to the paralympics I don't have the necessary time or energy to explain it.
Now THAT is a shame
Because of course you aren't so fixed in your opinion that it could be changed. Have some rolling eyes back.
Not at all - as I said I'm genuinely interested to understand why you think that breaking down prejudices and misconceptions via programmes like The Undateables, The Last Leg etc is "a shame" as you put it. and now you're misquoting me. Disingenuous of you. Nah. You're not worth it."
Not quite sure how I've misquoted you - misunderstood perhaps, but as you refuse to explain your comments then it's understandable that I may have done so.
Either way if defending your viewpoint and potentially educating others by doing so is not your thing then I guess that's the end of that, which to come back to my previous point IS a shame as I am genuinely interested in hearing why you think The Undateables is a bad thing - because to my mind all it is doing is breaking down prejudices in a heartwarming and sensitive way. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"If you can't see how the undatables is patronising without being educated, there's nothing I can say that would explain it to you. Ffs. "
I can see how some might see it as patronising if they are closed minded and not open to the idea of the educational value a programme like that may bring, let alone the prejudices it may break down.
As I've already said for me it's handled incredibly sensitively and without the slightest bit of patronisation, but that's my opinion.
Let me ask you something else then - IF you were to make a programme about dating for people who have conditions such as Aspergers, Autism, deafness, blindness etc etc - how would you present it? Or would you prefer it to not be made and the subject hidden away and not spoken of as it was until very recently?  |
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"If you can't see how the undatables is patronising without being educated, there's nothing I can say that would explain it to you. Ffs.
I can see how some might see it as patronising if they are closed minded and not open to the idea of the educational value a programme like that may bring, let alone the prejudices it may break down.
As I've already said for me it's handled incredibly sensitively and without the slightest bit of patronisation, but that's my opinion.
Let me ask you something else then - IF you were to make a programme about dating for people who have conditions such as Aspergers, Autism, deafness, blindness etc etc - how would you present it? Or would you prefer it to not be made and the subject hidden away and not spoken of as it was until very recently? "
I wouldn't dream of doing such a programme in the first place. There is no reason whatsoever for disabled people to not be included in any other dating programme. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"If you can't see how the undatables is patronising without being educated, there's nothing I can say that would explain it to you. Ffs.
I can see how some might see it as patronising if they are closed minded and not open to the idea of the educational value a programme like that may bring, let alone the prejudices it may break down.
As I've already said for me it's handled incredibly sensitively and without the slightest bit of patronisation, but that's my opinion.
Let me ask you something else then - IF you were to make a programme about dating for people who have conditions such as Aspergers, Autism, deafness, blindness etc etc - how would you present it? Or would you prefer it to not be made and the subject hidden away and not spoken of as it was until very recently?
I wouldn't dream of doing such a programme in the first place. There is no reason whatsoever for disabled people to not be included in any other dating programme. "
And they ARE included - have seen several instances (including most recently a double amputee on Naked Attraction) but there are some for whom conventional dating methods just wouldn't work (regardless of whether it's on a TV show or not) for one reason or another, as is highlighted by the fact there are specialist dating agencies to cater sensitively to them, and as is often shown on The Undateables.
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"If you can't see how the undatables is patronising without being educated, there's nothing I can say that would explain it to you. Ffs. "
I would thank you for your input but it has been less than enlightening or helpful.
It simply screams bitter and angry and that is unfortunate.
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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One of the parents was on This morning a few weeks ago and said she didn't want her son to go on the programme as she thought it was patronising too. She relented as her son wanted to do it though and likes the programme and how it is done |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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PS, I think the name of the programme is wrong though, everyone is datable to someone and the lovely people on it certainly are. I think the programme is heartwarming and hopefully helps to break down barriers |
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"One of the parents was on This morning a few weeks ago and said she didn't want her son to go on the programme as she thought it was patronising too. She relented as her son wanted to do it though and likes the programme and how it is done "
This makes me smile  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you can't see how the undatables is patronising without being educated, there's nothing I can say that would explain it to you. Ffs.
I would thank you for your input but it has been less than enlightening or helpful.
It simply screams bitter and angry and that is unfortunate.
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"PS, I think the name of the programme is wrong though, everyone is datable to someone and the lovely people on it certainly are. I think the programme is heartwarming and hopefully helps to break down barriers"
They splat the "un" off at the start, to me that says...
You didn't really think that was the case did you?
Think again. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I dont like the show at all. Yes it can be heartfelt but as a parent of someone that could very easily be on there it just feels wrong.
For me it is trash tv and sits uncomfortably.. But perhaps because it's so close to home. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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"PS, I think the name of the programme is wrong though, everyone is datable to someone and the lovely people on it certainly are. I think the programme is heartwarming and hopefully helps to break down barriers
They splat the "un" off at the start, to me that says...
You didn't really think that was the case did you?
Think again. "
Ah right, I only saw the end of it. Either way, I still think a name change would be good. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I remember years ago a young boy and girl with downs syndrome performed a ballet dance on tv show,,,,
It was quite the most beautiful thing....
They were so committed to each other...
I've actually got tear in my eye thinking about it |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"PS, I think the name of the programme is wrong though, everyone is datable to someone and the lovely people on it certainly are. I think the programme is heartwarming and hopefully helps to break down barriers
They splat the "un" off at the start, to me that says...
You didn't really think that was the case did you?
Think again.
Ah right, I only saw the end of it. Either way, I still think a name change would be good."
Whilst I agree the name could be misconstrued, particularly to anyone that's not seen it, I actually think it works in an ironic way - as Ms Peach says the "Un-" drops off at the beginning and the name is more about people's perceptions (both those that watch and appear on the programme) and challenging them |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"I remember years ago a young boy and girl with downs syndrome performed a ballet dance on tv show,,,,
It was quite the most beautiful thing....
They were so committed to each other...
I've actually got tear in my eye thinking about it "
Awww soxy I vaguely remember that and you're right it was beautiful |
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By *aterjetWoman
over a year ago
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"One of the parents was on This morning a few weeks ago and said she didn't want her son to go on the programme as she thought it was patronising too. She relented as her son wanted to do it though and likes the programme and how it is done "
What a wonderful parent. I didn't know this. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Dont watch it (or much telly at all really), but have done in the past. Cant help but think its a thinly veiled piss-take by the people that make it, dressed up to pretend to be some kind of socially-conscious experiment.
Ya. I think this too. The name itself Is pretty nasty."
I think the same.Its in the same vein of all those poverty porn fly on the wall documentaries. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I work with adults who have autism and they are amazing people, just like us but perhaps some say wired differently. At the end of the day we all just want the same out of love and company and some fun along the way |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I remember years ago a young boy and girl with downs syndrome performed a ballet dance on tv show,,,,
It was quite the most beautiful thing....
They were so committed to each other...
I've actually got tear in my eye thinking about it
Awww soxy I vaguely remember that and you're right it was beautiful"
Yeah it was an absolute tearjerker |
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Best thing about the programme is that it shows how
Mentally & physically disabled people strip
away the rubbish that goes into finding
that thing called LOVE most of us spend time searching for.
Makes my heart cry with sadness & laugh with joy .
Brilliant programme . |
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I do get the argument that people with disabilities should be included in mainstream dating programmes and in an ideal world they would be however for the vast majority of those featured on the undateables they would not cope with that. A flashy studio, lots of strangers, take after take to get it right.
As for the name, I think it's a good name but it's a visual name. People will often think of people with disabilities as undateable (wrongly of course) but this show is proving that is not the case.
One final point.... Maybe the show is not really for main stream viewers to 'get'. Maybe the show is there to give hope to other people who have disabilities and struggle to find love. It may give the hope to know that there are people who can help them. Who take the time to develop profiles and select potential path results for them. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"I do get the argument that people with disabilities should be included in mainstream dating programmes and in an ideal world they would be however for the vast majority of those featured on the undateables they would not cope with that. A flashy studio, lots of strangers, take after take to get it right.
As for the name, I think it's a good name but it's a visual name. People will often think of people with disabilities as undateable (wrongly of course) but this show is proving that is not the case.
One final point.... Maybe the show is not really for main stream viewers to 'get'. Maybe the show is there to give hope to other people who have disabilities and struggle to find love. It may give the hope to know that there are people who can help them. Who take the time to develop profiles and select potential path results for them. "
Perfectly put
The other point about mainstream dating shows is they're not for everyone regardless of ability - I know I wouldn't want to go on something like the trashy Paddy McGuiness thing or even Blind Date where you're very much held up for scrutiny and potential humiliation, but if I were single and looking to date I might consider something like First Dates.
So on that basis I really don't see the issue with having a programme that caters to the specific needs of a particular group of people - especially if it's done sensitively and in a way designed to educate people and give hope to others |
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