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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Don't follow cricket. But I also don't have all the facts. He's been involved in an altercation...a lot of people are(rightly or wrongly) and as a consequence he's facing more punishment than you or I would ? |
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Absolute rubbish.
Hoping to lose to Australia is tantamount to treason.
Ben Stokes hasn't done himself any favours he certainly isn't the first to get into trouble in the year of a an Ashes series. David Warner/Joe Root and Ian Chappell/Ian Botham Spring to mind in the time that it takes to type this paragraph.
The Harvey thing, well there's no police investigation going on, no reason for it to impact on his position as a cricketer, and for those with short memories.. Harvey's own performance on TV ring any bells? |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!"
Are you a cricket fan?
(I've gave my opinion on it yesterday/day before) |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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He got in to an altercation, the guy tried to hit him and his friend with a bottle, he sore red and set about them, a bit silly in the position he is in, but I sure hope my mates would stick up for me if somone tried to bottle me, |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!"
That's like saying the other members of lostprophets should be condemmed for the actions of the singer and utter bollocks. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I see a guy using a bottle as a weapon, I see another man defending himself and his mate. It's no different an altercation that goes on up and down the country outside nightclubs.
Let's wait and see if charges are brought and a conviction is gained before we hang him out as carrion for the vultures.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I prefer to let the police deal with it rather than believe The Sun's version of events. Defending yourself against someone armed with a bottle is not unreasonable.
Poking fun at a disabled child is horrible - if that's what happened - but not against the law.
The gutter press is too fond of building sportsmen up as heroes and then tearing them down when they show they're just humans like the rest of us  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!"
I'm all for him being punished ....
But I could never wish the tema would loose and why should the fans suffer .....
I hope he is permanently banned and I hope our team puts a performance too be proud of...
It's a team sport
No individual should be held responsible for defeat or success |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Interesting body cam footage from the old bill. The stroppy police dummies caused a load of shit by the look of it. "
In the mobile footage of him rolling around the ground and fracturing the guys eye socket there wasnt a copper in site. |
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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago
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This is a huge generalisation...but I am going to make it anyway...having met quite a few elite sportspeople they seem to fall into a couple of categories, either they are polite, almost quiet/shy people with an extraordinary talent & the ability to exploit it....or they are a loud,opinionated, driven not particularly pleasant person who has an extraordinary talent & let everyone know they are exploiting it. I have never met this person, but suspect I know which camp he falls into...a bit like non sportspeople really.. |
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Not Guilty. That's the jury's verdict.
One sky reporter suggesting he may now find himself banned by England.
Careful with that. He can earn a fortune in T20 comps around the world anyway.
Happy for him, don't know the fine details but I'm suprised by the verdict.
Is there to be an appeal or is that, that? |
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"Not Guilty. That's the jury's verdict.
One sky reporter suggesting he may now find himself banned by England.
Careful with that. He can earn a fortune in T20 comps around the world anyway.
Happy for him, don't know the fine details but I'm suprised by the verdict.
Is there to be an appeal or is that, that?"
He’s got away with one there |
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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
Are you a cricket fan?
(I've gave my opinion on it yesterday/day before)"
Clearly not |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty."
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports "
Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have "
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous |
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We want our sportsmen to be warriors, fierce, unafraid, uncompromising, and absolute animals on the sports field, so that we can all celebrate being WINNERS.
So that very same athlete,
do you expect them to behave like perfect meek little gentlemen when out and about socially? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous "
he's innocent remember so maybe he didn't do the things reported in our lovely tabloids |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We want our sportsmen to be warriors, fierce, unafraid, uncompromising, and absolute animals on the sports field, so that we can all celebrate being WINNERS.
So that very same athlete,
do you expect them to behave like perfect meek little gentlemen when out and about socially?"
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"i am going to be careful about what i say... but he does have a reputation in these parts for being " a prize arse".......
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Hopefully his wife will put a stop to his ladish ways!
The England management are expecting him to make a public apology, probably today.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous he's innocent remember so maybe he didn't do the things reported in our lovely tabloids "
I saw the video of him doing the above things.. fancy lawyers help and there he is.. same like that Rugby player to resisted arrest and then compensated the police officer for injuring him |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous he's innocent remember so maybe he didn't do the things reported in our lovely tabloids
I saw the video of him doing the above things.. fancy lawyers help and there he is.. same like that Rugby player to resisted arrest and then compensated the police officer for injuring him "
as with everything unless you are actually there you never know the true facts  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We want our sportsmen to be warriors, fierce, unafraid, uncompromising, and absolute animals on the sports field, so that we can all celebrate being WINNERS.
So that very same athlete,
do you expect them to behave like perfect meek little gentlemen when out and about socially?"
Dam good player , but if a knob head member of public wanted to have a pop at him then well done Ben for lamping him , stuff the PC side of things the guy is a winner . This is my opinion |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous he's innocent remember so maybe he didn't do the things reported in our lovely tabloids
I saw the video of him doing the above things.. fancy lawyers help and there he is.. same like that Rugby player to resisted arrest and then compensated the police officer for injuring him as with everything unless you are actually there you never know the true facts "
A video isn’t enough with witnesses?  |
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports "
I agree but it wasn't on the international sports field at the time.
Many sportsmen have committed crimes in the past and continued to represent. Some of them have made front page news rather than back page news and committed no crime.
Ben Stokes is a fine example of this. Proven Not Guilty. You can't pick and choose when the law is correct and when not. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous he's innocent remember so maybe he didn't do the things reported in our lovely tabloids
I saw the video of him doing the above things.. fancy lawyers help and there he is.. same like that Rugby player to resisted arrest and then compensated the police officer for injuring him as with everything unless you are actually there you never know the true facts
A video isn’t enough with witnesses? "
How long was video? Was video edited? Who made video? Why was that person videoing? Lots of unknowns
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous he's innocent remember so maybe he didn't do the things reported in our lovely tabloids
I saw the video of him doing the above things.. fancy lawyers help and there he is.. same like that Rugby player to resisted arrest and then compensated the police officer for injuring him as with everything unless you are actually there you never know the true facts
A video isn’t enough with witnesses? How long was video? Was video edited? Who made video? Why was that person videoing? Lots of unknowns
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Found not guilty. End of.
Rightly now, he will have to face the ECB, as this was during a one day series. Hopefully he will take whatever punishment they give him with good grace and accept it all as a learning experience. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"OP I'm bumping your thread to see if you have an opinion still now he has been found Not Guilty.
Yes but his behaviour isn’t fit and proper for international sports Hey he's a human being subject to all the same tostesterone fuelled emotions as you and I are, add drink in the form of alcohol to the equation and you have the thug mentality cipriani included, they are in public eye yes and they should set a good example yes but they are the best in their chosen sports, punish them yes but don't take away the rare talent that they have
I drink too but I don’t go throwing cigarettes at gay couples, argue with bouncers and punch people.. I know he’s human but not all humans do that. He will be a role model to young kids one day and they will think it’s okay we will get a pass if we are rich and famous he's innocent remember so maybe he didn't do the things reported in our lovely tabloids
I saw the video of him doing the above things.. fancy lawyers help and there he is.. same like that Rugby player to resisted arrest and then compensated the police officer for injuring him as with everything unless you are actually there you never know the true facts
A video isn’t enough with witnesses? How long was video? Was video edited? Who made video? Why was that person videoing? Lots of unknowns
Do you like conspiracy theories? "
I do because they question things and make you think should I believe that just because somebody else says it and if you think about the forums and how different people react to the same question or topic it's because we all react differently, people get upset, laugh, cry and get abusive in what should be just a friendly debate |
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I read yesterday that he's been selected for tomorrow's SQUAD (not team, yet) for his own good. That's bulls hit.
The ECB have handled this terribly from the morning after. They are still doing so.
He's selected as he's a superb player.
I wouldn't pick him as it's not fair on the team, they just won without him.
I'd have him as water boy but not as a punishment just because that's what a 12th man does. |
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"We want our sportsmen to be warriors, fierce, unafraid, uncompromising, and absolute animals on the sports field, so that we can all celebrate being WINNERS.
So that very same athlete,
do you expect them to behave like perfect meek little gentlemen when out and about socially?
Dam good player , but if a knob head member of public wanted to have a pop at him then well done Ben for lamping him , stuff the PC side of things the guy is a winner . This is my opinion "
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I agree, if you don't give it the big uns and threats while out drinking you tend not to get your head kicked in by a guy who's simply harder than you.
Now if he'd attacked them without provocation or the initial aggression I'd be happy for him to be doing bird but he didn't, he just gave those knob heads back what they were giving out in two fold  |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!"
Nope not at all. And I wonder why you are peddling this abuse of a brilliant sportsman. Can I just remind you:
* HE HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY!
* He remains innocent
* He has done no wrong
* His defence that he was defending two Gay men was accepted as truth.
THAT to me is admirable. Homophobia is too readily accepted by 'blokes'. He stood up against the twats. Well done him.
He has already paid a heavy personal, sports and commercial price for all this process which should never have gone to court. he missed an entire Ashes series where he might just have made a difference. So the country paid a price as well.
OP you need to read a bit more and get your facts sorted before scribbling utter crap ...  |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
Nope not at all. And I wonder why you are peddling this abuse of a brilliant sportsman. Can I just remind you:
* HE HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY!
* He remains innocent
* He has done no wrong
* His defence that he was defending two Gay men was accepted as truth.
THAT to me is admirable. Homophobia is too readily accepted by 'blokes'. He stood up against the twats. Well done him.
He has already paid a heavy personal, sports and commercial price for all this process which should never have gone to court. he missed an entire Ashes series where he might just have made a difference. So the country paid a price as well.
OP you need to read a bit more and get your facts sorted before scribbling utter crap ... "
Exactly. I'm pretty sure I read that the two gay men started be shouldn't have gone to trial, too. |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
Nope not at all. And I wonder why you are peddling this abuse of a brilliant sportsman. Can I just remind you:
* HE HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY!
* He remains innocent
* He has done no wrong
* His defence that he was defending two Gay men was accepted as truth.
THAT to me is admirable. Homophobia is too readily accepted by 'blokes'. He stood up against the twats. Well done him.
He has already paid a heavy personal, sports and commercial price for all this process which should never have gone to court. he missed an entire Ashes series where he might just have made a difference. So the country paid a price as well.
OP you need to read a bit more and get your facts sorted before scribbling utter crap ... "
Oscar Pistorious didn’t get life sentence for killing his gf |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
Nope not at all. And I wonder why you are peddling this abuse of a brilliant sportsman. Can I just remind you:
* HE HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY!
* He remains innocent
* He has done no wrong
* His defence that he was defending two Gay men was accepted as truth.
THAT to me is admirable. Homophobia is too readily accepted by 'blokes'. He stood up against the twats. Well done him.
He has already paid a heavy personal, sports and commercial price for all this process which should never have gone to court. he missed an entire Ashes series where he might just have made a difference. So the country paid a price as well.
OP you need to read a bit more and get your facts sorted before scribbling utter crap ...
Oscar Pistorious didn’t get life sentence for killing his gf "
yes but he didn't have a leg to stand on |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
Nope not at all. And I wonder why you are peddling this abuse of a brilliant sportsman. Can I just remind you:
* HE HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY!
* He remains innocent
* He has done no wrong
* His defence that he was defending two Gay men was accepted as truth.
THAT to me is admirable. Homophobia is too readily accepted by 'blokes'. He stood up against the twats. Well done him.
He has already paid a heavy personal, sports and commercial price for all this process which should never have gone to court. he missed an entire Ashes series where he might just have made a difference. So the country paid a price as well.
OP you need to read a bit more and get your facts sorted before scribbling utter crap ... "
You’re wasting your time pal.
Factual accuracy has no place here, the keyboard witch hunters don’t acknowledge it.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"We want our sportsmen to be warriors, fierce, unafraid, uncompromising, and absolute animals on the sports field, so that we can all celebrate being WINNERS.
So that very same athlete,
do you expect them to behave like perfect meek little gentlemen when out and about socially?
Dam good player , but if a knob head member of public wanted to have a pop at him then well done Ben for lamping him , stuff the PC side of things the guy is a winner . This is my opinion .
I agree, if you don't give it the big uns and threats while out drinking you tend not to get your head kicked in by a guy who's simply harder than you.
Now if he'd attacked them without provocation or the initial aggression I'd be happy for him to be doing bird but he didn't, he just gave those knob heads back what they were giving out in two fold "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I wouldn't pick him as it's not fair on the team, they just won without him.
I'd have him as water boy but not as a punishment just because that's what a 12th man does."
They also won WITH him. His bowling figures in the first Test were:
2nd Innings: 4 wickets for 40 runs
1st Innings: 2 for 73
He also scored a handy 27 runs ..
Stokes can change a game in a couple of overs. You throw that away at your peril. |
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"Dam good player , but if a knob head member of public wanted to have a pop at him then well done Ben for lamping him , stuff the PC side of things the guy is a winner . This is my opinion "
THIS |
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"I wouldn't pick him as it's not fair on the team, they just won without him.
I'd have him as water boy but not as a punishment just because that's what a 12th man does.
They also won WITH him. His bowling figures in the first Test were:
2nd Innings: 4 wickets for 40 runs
1st Innings: 2 for 73
He also scored a handy 27 runs ..
Stokes can change a game in a couple of overs. You throw that away at your peril."
Yeah cheers I know that.
He's an amazing player with ball, bat and fielding.
I can't disagree with you.
However, someone that has preformed really well gets dropped.
Sam Curran.
It's the wrong message to all youngsters. |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
Nope not at all. And I wonder why you are peddling this abuse of a brilliant sportsman. Can I just remind you:
* HE HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY!
* He remains innocent
* He has done no wrong
* His defence that he was defending two Gay men was accepted as truth.
THAT to me is admirable. Homophobia is too readily accepted by 'blokes'. He stood up against the twats. Well done him.
He has already paid a heavy personal, sports and commercial price for all this process which should never have gone to court. he missed an entire Ashes series where he might just have made a difference. So the country paid a price as well.
OP you need to read a bit more and get your facts sorted before scribbling utter crap ... "
Why wasn't it reported this way from the start? They made him look like he was the homophobe. |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
Nope not at all. And I wonder why you are peddling this abuse of a brilliant sportsman. Can I just remind you:
* HE HAS BEEN FOUND NOT GUILTY!
* He remains innocent
* He has done no wrong
* His defence that he was defending two Gay men was accepted as truth.
THAT to me is admirable. Homophobia is too readily accepted by 'blokes'. He stood up against the twats. Well done him.
He has already paid a heavy personal, sports and commercial price for all this process which should never have gone to court. he missed an entire Ashes series where he might just have made a difference. So the country paid a price as well.
OP you need to read a bit more and get your facts sorted before scribbling utter crap ...
Why wasn't it reported this way from the start? They made him look like he was the homophobe."
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!"
I think that was a No Ball and a Wide all rolled into one there OP  |
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"Does anyone else agree that this horrible person is a disgusting human being. Here is hopeing he loses he's ashes place for ever.and the entire team lose to the aussies.!!
I think that was a No Ball and a Wide all rolled into one there OP "
Another well timed bump there sir. I doff my virtual cap. |
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