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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Does anyone have a problem with these?
I have been in one and didn't have a problem as they pull the curtains around to examine you.
As it's in the news today I thought ask your views on this  |
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I was in one and wired up to machines so had to use a commode. That was horrible
and I felt even more self concious as the nurses went in and out wafting open my cubicle curtains and all the old men patients were peering in.
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i have only stayed in hospital once and that was a private one so had my own room 
however those heady days are gone so if i was to have to stay in hospital it would be an NHS one and i would think i would be pretty poorly to be there so the last worry would be who was in the bed next to me really.
Using a komode would be awful but then i haveto turn the taps on in a hotel room if i need to use the loo or wait for people to turn the hand dryers on in public loos lol |
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I've only had to visit one. When I've been a patient it's been on a men's ward but I imagine it wouldn't bother me.
I'd just want to get better and get out of there asap.
I appreciate why women might be bothered by it though. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"lack of dignity and respect and isnt acceptable -
why do you think it lacks dignity or respect?
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to allow others to be able to peep in whilst on the commode - |
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"lack of dignity and respect and isnt acceptable -
why do you think it lacks dignity or respect?
to allow others to be able to peep in whilst on the commode - "
oh ok....but that happens in any ward at any time. i thought you meant mixed wards lacked dignity and respect |
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I don't want anyone seeing me if I'm not at my best, so it wouldn't bother me as long as I can get out well asap!
Don't like male nurses up close and personal, yet prefer male doctors! Can't explain why. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"lack of dignity and respect and isnt acceptable -
why do you think it lacks dignity or respect?
to allow others to be able to peep in whilst on the commode -
oh ok....but that happens in any ward at any time. i thought you meant mixed wards lacked dignity and respect"
no no - thats fine |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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When my dad was in hospital there was an old woman next to him who was in a gown, with nothing on underneath, who kept pulling it up and crying. He kept calling for the nurses to help her but they ignored him. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was in one and wired up to machines so had to use a commode. That was horrible
and I felt even more self concious as the nurses went in and out wafting open my cubicle curtains and all the old men patients were peering in.
Sally"
Exactly like this. I really hope mixed wards are not given the go ahead.
I wouldn't feel, cinfident, comfortable nor completely safe if I slept. I don't even fall asleep on public transport either. Doesn't take long for someone to turn all touchy feeling when they think no one is looking.
May be slightly over the top but hey it happens so there is still a risk. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was in one and wired up to machines so had to use a commode. That was horrible
and I felt even more self concious as the nurses went in and out wafting open my cubicle curtains and all the old men patients were peering in.
Sally
Exactly like this. I really hope mixed wards are not given the go ahead.
I wouldn't feel, cinfident, comfortable nor completely safe if I slept. I don't even fall asleep on public transport either. Doesn't take long for someone to turn all touchy feeling when they think no one is looking.
May be slightly over the top but hey it happens so there is still a risk. "
A woman or a male visitor could do that though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was in one and wired up to machines so had to use a commode. That was horrible
and I felt even more self concious as the nurses went in and out wafting open my cubicle curtains and all the old men patients were peering in.
Sally
Exactly like this. I really hope mixed wards are not given the go ahead.
I wouldn't feel, cinfident, comfortable nor completely safe if I slept. I don't even fall asleep on public transport either. Doesn't take long for someone to turn all touchy feeling when they think no one is looking.
May be slightly over the top but hey it happens so there is still a risk.
A woman or a male visitor could do that though "
Greatly reduced risk I'm sure, due to alot of open eyes during visiting hours. Not to mention nurses are more likely pop in and out during visiting hours to ensure patient safety. They certainly did when I had to stay in hospital. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If I'm that poorly to be hospitalised then I don't want to be on a mixed ward.
Body parts popping out & loss of bodily functions is kind of more bearable from the same sex. I'd feel more vulnerable / self conscious if there was a guy opposite or next to me.
Nighttime feels safer when it's single sex ward too. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I was in one and wired up to machines so had to use a commode. That was horrible
and I felt even more self concious as the nurses went in and out wafting open my cubicle curtains and all the old men patients were peering in.
Sally"
Your lucky...when I was in it was bedpan or bottle...I couldn't manage to do anything for nearly a week,when I was able to make the loo....think it should have had a out of order sign on when I left though |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I was in one and wired up to machines so had to use a commode. That was horrible
and I felt even more self concious as the nurses went in and out wafting open my cubicle curtains and all the old men patients were peering in.
Sally
Exactly like this. I really hope mixed wards are not given the go ahead.
I wouldn't feel, cinfident, comfortable nor completely safe if I slept. I don't even fall asleep on public transport either. Doesn't take long for someone to turn all touchy feeling when they think no one is looking.
May be slightly over the top but hey it happens so there is still a risk. "
This for me too. I wouldn't be happy at all. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"i have only stayed in hospital once and that was a private one so had my own room
however those heady days are gone so if i was to have to stay in hospital it would be an NHS one and i would think i would be pretty poorly to be there so the last worry would be who was in the bed next to me really.
Using a komode would be awful but then i haveto turn the taps on in a hotel room if i need to use the loo or wait for people to turn the hand dryers on in public loos lol"
I'm a bit like that in loos lol
But seriously the way the nhs is atm I for one would be prepared to put up with mixed wards if the cost of losing them means the loss of treatment to more patients. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Think we already have them in my area. Yes it's a mixed ward but they consist of severalbig rooms that house 4-6 beds. Each room is either male or female but the ward as a whole and eating areas are mixed. I don't see a problem with that and I,m pretty sure nurses don't deliberately open the curtains carelessly so other people can see persons on the commode XXX |
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I was in one. I didn't like it.
I felt vulnerable because I'd had spinal surgery and could only lay down. I felt uncomfortable having just a thin curtain between me and a man while doctors asked me about my bowels, bladder and menstrual cycle or lack of. I much prefer in that situation to be with other women. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I had to stay in a mixed ward for a week. It didn't bother me but I personally think that if everyone is quite open about their body and bodily functions (especially women) then there will come a time when it is no longer uncomfortable to talk about them around the opposite sex. For example, I don't understand why women should feel embarrassed about talking about periods as we all have them. |
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By *hav02Man
over a year ago
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Mixed wards were long gone i thought, except intensive care/theatre areas..... Maybe i was wrong!
Newer hospitals have side rooms, with stories of prostitutes scoring business with patients now  |
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"I had to stay in a mixed ward for a week. It didn't bother me but I personally think that if everyone is quite open about their body and bodily functions (especially women) then there will come a time when it is no longer uncomfortable to talk about them around the opposite sex. For example, I don't understand why women should feel embarrassed about talking about periods as we all have them. "
When I'm ill and vulnerable I prefer to be as far as possible within my comfort zone. That includes not having a man I've never met privy to details about my medical history or personal life. I can't explain and don't feel I should have to, why I would feel less uncomfortable if it's a woman in the next bed.
My parents are very elderly and being in a mixed ward would distress them a great deal. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Think we already have them in my area. Yes it's a mixed ward but they consist of severalbig rooms that house 4-6 beds. Each room is either male or female but the ward as a whole and eating areas are mixed. I don't see a problem with that and I,m pretty sure nurses don't deliberately open the curtains carelessly so other people can see persons on the commode XXX"
My experience when I took ill was 24 hours in a waiting or assessment ward where I was the only male on entry which did not bother me....by the time I left it there was only one woman in the ward and boy did she kid up a fuss |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I was in one. I didn't like it.
I felt vulnerable because I'd had spinal surgery and could only lay down. I felt uncomfortable having just a thin curtain between me and a man while doctors asked me about my bowels, bladder and menstrual cycle or lack of. I much prefer in that situation to be with other women."
I understand what you mean by that but think in some cases of illness mixed wards shouldn't be a problem...when I got out of the waking ward I was sent to a heart ward for two days with double pneumonia...and that was a mixed word but I was more concerned about being on the wrong ward then the sex of fellow patients....I thank God I got to icu and that was mixed too...which was the least of my worries at the time  |
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I've had it and was fine with it but it would be better for the government not to keep making the financial cuts in real terms, to the NHS. It's being systematically degraded, starved of cash, as they don't want a large state, instead of commercial enterprise. That's their longer term plan that's been underway since Thatcher. Vote for this lot and mixed wards will be the least of your worries |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I wouldn't wants to be on a mixed ward."
I think giving a choice most would prefer expecially for routine ops...but in emergency reasons for admission..I found it goes out the window as the main thought is am I coming out of here...not who I'm in here with |
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"I was in one. I didn't like it.
I felt vulnerable because I'd had spinal surgery and could only lay down. I felt uncomfortable having just a thin curtain between me and a man while doctors asked me about my bowels, bladder and menstrual cycle or lack of. I much prefer in that situation to be with other women.
I understand what you mean by that but think in some cases of illness mixed wards shouldn't be a problem...when I got out of the waking ward I was sent to a heart ward for two days with double pneumonia...and that was a mixed word but I was more concerned about being on the wrong ward then the sex of fellow patients....I thank God I got to icu and that was mixed too...which was the least of my worries at the time "
Yes when the chips are down it doesn't matter if there's a man a woman or a martian in the next bed. However in an ideal world we wouldn't even need to worry about it. |
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By *isaB45Woman
over a year ago
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Having been in hospital several times in the last year, I have a little experience in this.
The wards I was on were mixed, but segregated. One end was male, one end female. Kept totaly separate, with separate bathroom facilities.
I was given excellent care by male and female staff.
Hospitals have patient support services, who can help you with comments, complaints and compliments. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I have been in hospital 4 times over recent years. Three times were planned operations and were on mixed wards but they had bays of 4 beds and all the same sex in each bay however the toilets were mixed but it was just about ok.
The other time i was in hospital it was a mixed ward, no bays and all sexes mixed up side by side. It was awful. I was traumatised enough anyway but to have the eyes of all the men staring at me all the time was horrible. No privacy at all cus the curtains werent big enough, could hear all conversations including very private questions and also at 3 am hearing the guy in the next bed being told off about smoking still. There were two toilets, male and female but the guys used both toilets and there was pee and poo on the floor. There was no where to wash or shower. I cried. I was soooooo glad to go home. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I have been in hospital 4 times over recent years. Three times were planned operations and were on mixed wards but they had bays of 4 beds and all the same sex in each bay however the toilets were mixed but it was just about ok.
The other time i was in hospital it was a mixed ward, no bays and all sexes mixed up side by side. It was awful. I was traumatised enough anyway but to have the eyes of all the men staring at me all the time was horrible. No privacy at all cus the curtains werent big enough, could hear all conversations including very private questions and also at 3 am hearing the guy in the next bed being told off about smoking still. There were two toilets, male and female but the guys used both toilets and there was pee and poo on the floor. There was no where to wash or shower. I cried. I was soooooo glad to go home. "
That sounds like my local hospital until it got taken over by another trust and got a massive kick up the arse improvement wise!!
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"Having been in hospital several times in the last year, I have a little experience in this.
The wards I was on were mixed, but segregated. One end was male, one end female. Kept totaly separate, with separate bathroom facilities.
I was given excellent care by male and female staff.
Hospitals have patient support services, who can help you with comments, complaints and compliments."
The ward I was in had male and female beds side by side. I would have no problem with bays or one end male one female. However I don't feel I should accept feeling uncomfortable and vulnerable when I'm ill or post operative. I also don't feel I should accept it because I should feel grateful to be receiving medical care under any circumstances. |
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Don't see the problem in it all, why the need for the division. All are there for a similar reason, they require hospital treatment. Those thinking it poses a risk or feel threatened, why do you not against those of the same sex. I think I'd prefer mixed, women can be threatening too. |
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By *yldstyleWoman
over a year ago
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I have a severe phobia of hospitals. Last time I had to go I was in a mixed ward. Fortunately I was only there a few hours. However I spent most of that in tears because I was scared and alone.
I don't think the fact it was a mixed ward had any impact on me in that situation, however I don't know how I'd feel if I was so I'll I had to stay |
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By (user no longer on site)
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As a healthcare worker working on these wards... i dont see a way around it. We do what we are able.. and moving patients around isn't always simple, or indeed - safe. |
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"Don't see the problem in it all, why the need for the division. All are there for a similar reason, they require hospital treatment. Those thinking it poses a risk or feel threatened, why do you not against those of the same sex. I think I'd prefer mixed, women can be threatening too."
I didn't feel threatened. I felt vulnerable which isn't the same. For me being in a mixed ward increased my feelings of vulnerability.. |
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"As a healthcare worker working on these wards... i dont see a way around it. We do what we are able.. and moving patients around isn't always simple, or indeed - safe."
Absolutely understand that and I don't think any of us think its the fault of the health professionals on the front line. |
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"Don't see the problem in it all, why the need for the division. All are there for a similar reason, they require hospital treatment. Those thinking it poses a risk or feel threatened, why do you not against those of the same sex. I think I'd prefer mixed, women can be threatening too.
I didn't feel threatened. I felt vulnerable which isn't the same. For me being in a mixed ward increased my feelings of vulnerability.."
Im sorry to hear that. And i guess that example helps us to understand that it's more than just dignity, and choice.
If you're unfortunate enough to be in hospital then your emotional wellbeing is a factor too? |
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We're are all different and some people are comfortable with mixed wards and some people are not....
But I think any circumstance the adds extra stress or anxiety to a patient is an unacceptable scenario when the motive is based solely on the whim of wanting gender integration....
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"We're are all different and some people are comfortable with mixed wards and some people are not....
But I think any circumstance the adds extra stress or anxiety to a patient is an unacceptable scenario when the motive is based solely on the whim of wanting gender integration....
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I don't think it's on a whim of anyone wanting mixed wards especially myself
This was posted as it's a issue that is being discussed at the moment on the nhs. |
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"Don't see the problem in it all, why the need for the division. All are there for a similar reason, they require hospital treatment. Those thinking it poses a risk or feel threatened, why do you not against those of the same sex. I think I'd prefer mixed, women can be threatening too.
I didn't feel threatened. I felt vulnerable which isn't the same. For me being in a mixed ward increased my feelings of vulnerability..
Im sorry to hear that. And i guess that example helps us to understand that it's more than just dignity, and choice.
If you're unfortunate enough to be in hospital then your emotional wellbeing is a factor too? "
I pulled up my big girl pyjamas and made the best of it. However it wasn't helped when a woman was admitted in the early hours of one morning and they allowed her loud and frankly intimidating male partner to stay with her. I know ther were nurses around and I was in no danger as such but I was extremely uncomfortable using a commode with a complete stranger, who wasn't a patient behind a thin curtain.
He was only asked to leave later in the morning when we were all waking up (not that we'd slept with him talking loudly all night). |
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"We're are all different and some people are comfortable with mixed wards and some people are not....
But I think any circumstance the adds extra stress or anxiety to a patient is an unacceptable scenario when the motive is based solely on the whim of wanting gender integration....
I don't think it's on a whim of anyone wanting mixed wards especially myself
This was posted as it's a issue that is being discussed at the moment on the nhs."
For the idea to be motioned it has to start as someone's whim..
Stop being so reactionary ,,, |
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I had a brain bleed last year, a subarachnoid haemorrhage I was given a20% chance of survival, and put in a mixed ward,the ICU apart from the intense pain I couldn't of given a rat's arse that members of the opposite sex were in the room I and my family was more worried that I might not see the following morning, what I am trying to say is the NHS do an awesome job with what they have, and I for one am not that worried about some quite trivial matters!  |
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"I had a brain bleed last year, a subarachnoid haemorrhage I was given a20% chance of survival, and put in a mixed ward,the ICU apart from the intense pain I couldn't of given a rat's arse that members of the opposite sex were in the room I and my family was more worried that I might not see the following morning, what I am trying to say is the NHS do an awesome job with what they have, and I for one am not that worried about some quite trivial matters! "
Its not trivial to some people and I think its disrespectful to suggest that it is.
I don't think anybody cares in a life or death situation but not all health care is life or cdeath. |
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"We're are all different and some people are comfortable with mixed wards and some people are not....
But I think any circumstance the adds extra stress or anxiety to a patient is an unacceptable scenario when the motive is based solely on the whim of wanting gender integration....
I don't think it's on a whim of anyone wanting mixed wards especially myself
This was posted as it's a issue that is being discussed at the moment on the nhs.
For the idea to be motioned it has to start as someone's whim..
Stop being so reactionary ,,, "
I'm a knee jerker ....only on here though  |
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"I had a brain bleed last year, a subarachnoid haemorrhage I was given a20% chance of survival, and put in a mixed ward,the ICU apart from the intense pain I couldn't of given a rat's arse that members of the opposite sex were in the room I and my family was more worried that I might not see the following morning, what I am trying to say is the NHS do an awesome job with what they have, and I for one am not that worried about some quite trivial matters!
Its not trivial to some people and I think its disrespectful to suggest that it is.
I don't think anybody cares in a life or death situation but not all health care is life or cdeath."
As I have been in both situations.
I agree....there has to be give and take in all situations and if the fuck that the recovery of a patient is hampered by this it should be of paramount concern. |
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"We're are all different and some people are comfortable with mixed wards and some people are not....
But I think any circumstance the adds extra stress or anxiety to a patient is an unacceptable scenario when the motive is based solely on the whim of wanting gender integration....
I don't think it's on a whim of anyone wanting mixed wards especially myself
This was posted as it's a issue that is being discussed at the moment on the nhs.
For the idea to be motioned it has to start as someone's whim..
Stop being so reactionary ,,, I'm a knee jerker ....only on here though "
Here's the thing.....
I willing hazard a guess the person who originally tabled the idea is sufficiently privileged they would have a private room in a private hospital should they need the same sort of medical care......
Many of our policy makers are so far up their own arse they don't give a shit what happens to Joe public....
You must worship me ...... and stop deleting your posts before I reply |
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"I have been in hospital 4 times over recent years. Three times were planned operations and were on mixed wards but they had bays of 4 beds and all the same sex in each bay however the toilets were mixed but it was just about ok.
The other time i was in hospital it was a mixed ward, no bays and all sexes mixed up side by side. It was awful. I was traumatised enough anyway but to have the eyes of all the men staring at me all the time was horrible. No privacy at all cus the curtains werent big enough, could hear all conversations including very private questions and also at 3 am hearing the guy in the next bed being told off about smoking still. There were two toilets, male and female but the guys used both toilets and there was pee and poo on the floor. There was no where to wash or shower. I cried. I was soooooo glad to go home.
That sounds like my local hospital until it got taken over by another trust and got a massive kick up the arse improvement wise!!
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I hope that happens here |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a brain bleed last year, a subarachnoid haemorrhage I was given a20% chance of survival, and put in a mixed ward,the ICU apart from the intense pain I couldn't of given a rat's arse that members of the opposite sex were in the room I and my family was more worried that I might not see the following morning, what I am trying to say is the NHS do an awesome job with what they have, and I for one am not that worried about some quite trivial matters!
Its not trivial to some people and I think its disrespectful to suggest that it is.
I don't think anybody cares in a life or death situation but not all health care is life or cdeath."
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Only been in mixed wards on day cases, and when I had an eye injury (had a week with both eyes covered). So I can't comment too much on my experiences.
After being in a single sex ward when I had my orchidectomy, having 9 junior doctors men & women observing me getting checked over. Can it really be that bad. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I had a brain bleed last year, a subarachnoid haemorrhage I was given a20% chance of survival, and put in a mixed ward,the ICU apart from the intense pain I couldn't of given a rat's arse that members of the opposite sex were in the room I and my family was more worried that I might not see the following morning, what I am trying to say is the NHS do an awesome job with what they have, and I for one am not that worried about some quite trivial matters!
Its not trivial to some people and I think its disrespectful to suggest that it is.
I don't think anybody cares in a life or death situation but not all health care is life or cdeath."
I agree
I'd like to add ( being present throughout an end of life care programme ) on a mixed stroke ward, it was distressing for both families involved when a male patient kept getting into bed with the female patients (He didn't realise what he was doing) resulting in him be restrained against his will in the end...  |
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