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"Seriously, these are classed as a luxury item and are taxed at 5% - Mrs. J -" Been an issue for a long time! Asda and Tesco discount the value of the tax | |||
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"I was so poor last month I sat on a towel. True story. " that sucks. i've nicked toilet rolls out of public toilets to use as sanitary products when i've been skint. | |||
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"Apparently they are one of the things food banks give out most XXX" Some may think you jest but you are so right In a recent appeal from our Church, we were asked to donate toiletries, including sanitary towels - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!!" Erm.. no | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!!" Not quite sure I've understood and maybe I've misinterpreted this, but it appears you're suggesting that tampons ARE a 'luxury' item and in the same category as fags, vaping fluid or alcohol?! If so I'm stunned! MP Philip Davies is an interesting person to look into on issues like this. His filibustering meant the issue wasn't discussed I parliament. He's filibustered on a number of issues too and voted for some very strange things! | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!!" Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable" What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell" Where do you drawer the line at what could be a luxury item or essential item?? | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!!" whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell" I don't know I was discussing the tax on sanitary towels - Mrs. J - | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace women don't get them free. I cannot believe how the government got away with it. Periods are vile but they're natural and an absolute necessity to life and continuation of the human race (until trans can bear kids) so women shouldn't have to pay a dime for sanitary towels. They should be FREE!!!!" Why exactly?? What about cancer sufferers? Or mental health patients paying for thier meds?? | |||
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"some shops have knocked the tax off (ie. they're paying it) but people are campaigning for sanitary products to be completely free." That's nice of the shops not to charge the tax.. Do you know if its for a long period?? | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell" The discussion wasn't about giving them out for free. It's whether vat should be put on top of the price. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell" You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. | |||
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"Seriously, these are classed as a luxury item and are taxed at 5% - Mrs. J -" how can this be acceptable? | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace women don't get them free. I cannot believe how the government got away with it. Periods are vile but they're natural and an absolute necessity to life and continuation of the human race (until trans can bear kids) so women shouldn't have to pay a dime for sanitary towels. They should be FREE!!!! It would make your blood boil Why exactly?? What about cancer sufferers? Or mental health patients paying for thier meds??" | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace women don't get them free. I cannot believe how the government got away with it. Periods are vile but they're natural and an absolute necessity to life and continuation of the human race (until trans can bear kids) so women shouldn't have to pay a dime for sanitary towels. They should be FREE!!!! Why exactly?? What about cancer sufferers? Or mental health patients paying for thier meds??" When I was on chemo I was given a prescription charges exemption card so I didn't have to pay for any prescriptions at all for 5 years. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month." What about diva cups .99pence all you pay,, tampons cost £1.50 hmm the vat is nothing much on that!! It's your choice what you use but it really doesn't cost that much, oh and who will make the money back on the free vat - tax payers so we end up paying for you If the government is going to do something it should be to abolish prescription charge on meds people actually need!! | |||
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"Seriously, these are classed as a luxury item and are taxed at 5% - Mrs. J - how can this be acceptable?" Most people didn't think it was acceptable. But the tax was set by eu rules and the uk couldnt change it. That changed a year or so back and after some negotiations with the eu were allowed to. It will fall to 0% next year I think. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell The discussion wasn't about giving them out for free. It's whether vat should be put on top of the price." but there is a wider discussion around providing them for free. i read about it on the news this week | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!!" I go through 3 boxes of pads and a box of tampax a month. I also use daily pads in between sometimes. It's much more then a bloody fiver let me tell you! | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month." Ok who will pay for my vision correction then??? I need them no matter what sort | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! I go through 3 boxes of pads and a box of tampax a month. I also use daily pads in between sometimes. It's much more then a bloody fiver let me tell you! " Use a cheaper alternative,, it's your choice to use pads,, the most expensive | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. What about diva cups .99pence all you pay,, tampons cost £1.50 hmm the vat is nothing much on that!! It's your choice what you use but it really doesn't cost that much, oh and who will make the money back on the free vat - tax payers so we end up paying for you If the government is going to do something it should be to abolish prescription charge on meds people actually need!! " Razors don't cost much either and can be used for days. Should these be taxed at 5% too Men can grow a beard. What is a woman supposed to do during her periods. Let the blood flow down her legs? - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. What about diva cups .99pence all you pay,, tampons cost £1.50 hmm the vat is nothing much on that!! It's your choice what you use but it really doesn't cost that much, oh and who will make the money back on the free vat - tax payers so we end up paying for you If the government is going to do something it should be to abolish prescription charge on meds people actually need!! " they do. if you have a prescription for something your body cannot make but cannot do without you get a medical exemption certificate. i get one for my diabetes medication that i am hoping to hand back soon | |||
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"some shops have knocked the tax off (ie. they're paying it) but people are campaigning for sanitary products to be completely free. That's nice of the shops not to charge the tax.. Do you know if its for a long period??" | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. Ok who will pay for my vision correction then??? I need them no matter what sort" Pay for your own vision correction... I don't mind that I pay vat on sanitary products and I wouldn't expect to get them for free, but it doesn't change the fact that it is seen as a LUXURY item! | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny" Poverty is bandied around too much these days. Sanitary products are cheap and only needed a few days a month, there are reusable products on the market which for an initial slightly larger outlay would save money in the long run. | |||
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"Apparently they are one of the things food banks give out most XXX" Not sure if that's since the film " I Daniel Blake" which is a good thing if that is the case | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. Ok who will pay for my vision correction then??? I need them no matter what sort Pay for your own vision correction... I don't mind that I pay vat on sanitary products and I wouldn't expect to get them for free, but it doesn't change the fact that it is seen as a LUXURY item! " I do pay for my vision correction!! That's the point, so why do I have to pay for your sanitary products eventually through my taxes??? | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. What about diva cups .99pence all you pay,, tampons cost £1.50 hmm the vat is nothing much on that!! It's your choice what you use but it really doesn't cost that much, oh and who will make the money back on the free vat - tax payers so we end up paying for you If the government is going to do something it should be to abolish prescription charge on meds people actually need!! " Did you mean to be so offensive? For a start guess what *women* pay tax too, and, as has already been pointed out razors are VAT free so who, exactly, is making up the shortfall there ? Furthermore, it's not as simple as stating 'tampons are £1.50'. Unless you have periods yourself which I somehow doubt, individual women can pay far far more than that every month depending on how heavy and how long their periods are - and different brands, at different prices, many more than £1.50, suit different women because, surprise, we're all different. Even if you could get away with spending £1.50 a month there are many women - including some who work in low paid jobs - living right on the poverty line whose choice is food (e.g. for their kids) or sanitary protection. Where every last penny makes a real difference. Or women being financially abused. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny Poverty is bandied around too much these days. Sanitary products are cheap and only needed a few days a month, there are reusable products on the market which for an initial slightly larger outlay would save money in the long run. " True!! | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all" Some women can barely afford to feed the children. A 5% tax on sanitary products, as a luxury item, is unacceptable Just as if there was a tax on razor blades would not be acceptable Nobody stated that they want the price lowered or want these for free - Mrs. J - | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! I go through 3 boxes of pads and a box of tampax a month. I also use daily pads in between sometimes. It's much more then a bloody fiver let me tell you! Use a cheaper alternative,, it's your choice to use pads,, the most expensive" Cheaper alternatives can make your lady bits itch and don't fit your knickers as well. Also they don't stick as well. Some products use perfumes that can also course irritations. I choose the more expensive ones because I'm in a very lucky position some ladies are not so lucky. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. What about diva cups .99pence all you pay,, tampons cost £1.50 hmm the vat is nothing much on that!! It's your choice what you use but it really doesn't cost that much, oh and who will make the money back on the free vat - tax payers so we end up paying for you If the government is going to do something it should be to abolish prescription charge on meds people actually need!! Did you mean to be so offensive? For a start guess what *women* pay tax too, and, as has already been pointed out razors are VAT free so who, exactly, is making up the shortfall there ? Furthermore, it's not as simple as stating 'tampons are £1.50'. Unless you have periods yourself which I somehow doubt, individual women can pay far far more than that every month depending on how heavy and how long their periods are - and different brands, at different prices, many more than £1.50, suit different women because, surprise, we're all different. Even if you could get away with spending £1.50 a month there are many women - including some who work in low paid jobs - living right on the poverty line whose choice is food (e.g. for their kids) or sanitary protection. Where every last penny makes a real difference. Or women being financially abused." I don't mean to sound offensive but I do get peed off with people wanting expecting to have things cheaper for them because they can't help it!!! If anyone should get things for free it's the people who really need it,, not the I can save pennies on tampons,,, what about those who really need the help - homeless!! | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all" a luxury item is something you can do without. to charge VAT (VALUE added tax) to them, no matter at what level implies that they are something a woman can do without. this is incorrect. i dont think they should be provided free as, depending on the brand you buy, they can be as little as £1 for balance....pitta bread does not have VAT added to it. The items you have listed as 'essential' such as razors, contact lenses and laser correction surgery are ridiculous and show you do not understand the matter at all. Ask your Mrs if she could go without her tampons or pads next month as they are a luxury and money is tight so you need to drop all luxury items! i'm sure she would be happy to. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny Poverty is bandied around too much these days. Sanitary products are cheap and only needed a few days a month, there are reusable products on the market which for an initial slightly larger outlay would save money in the long run. " Mooncups are around £20. Yes they're reusable and thankfully most of us could afford to buy them if we wanted. Can you not imagine though living in genuine poverty where it's literally impossible to put aside even £2 a month to save up for one of these items? There are all sorts of things where a higher initial outlay would save money in the long run but if you're truly poor that outlay is impossible in the first place. | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all" The initial comment was about these items being subject to VAT because they are considered a luxury item. It's gone off at a bit of a tangent now. Clearly, they are not a luxury product. Even if they are a necessity, they are not a luxury. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable" exactly and when its down to a medical condition that causes the heavy periods and u go thru nearly a pack a day its really expensive | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all Some women can barely afford to feed the children. A 5% tax on sanitary products, as a luxury item, is unacceptable Just as if there was a tax on razor blades would not be acceptable Nobody stated that they want the price lowered or want these for free - Mrs. J -" You use razors for your legs etc so you benefit from that,, and quite honestly 5% on tampons really is nothing at all,, why not raise it back to 20% and really give you something to moan about | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all The initial comment was about these items being subject to VAT because they are considered a luxury item. It's gone off at a bit of a tangent now. Clearly, they are not a luxury product. Even if they are a necessity, they are not a luxury. " | |||
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"It's an absolute disgrace women don't get them free. I cannot believe how the government got away with it. Periods are vile but they're natural and an absolute necessity to life and continuation of the human race (until trans can bear kids) so women shouldn't have to pay a dime for sanitary towels. They should be FREE!!!!" even more so if u have a known medical condition | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell Where do you drawer the line at what could be a luxury item or essential item??" tampons and towels are an essential for women not a bloody luxury | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all Some women can barely afford to feed the children. A 5% tax on sanitary products, as a luxury item, is unacceptable Just as if there was a tax on razor blades would not be acceptable Nobody stated that they want the price lowered or want these for free - Mrs. J - You use razors for your legs etc so you benefit from that,, and quite honestly 5% on tampons really is nothing at all,, why not raise it back to 20% and really give you something to moan about" The cost isn't the issue. The description and definition is. They are not luxury item simple as that really. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny Poverty is bandied around too much these days. Sanitary products are cheap and only needed a few days a month, there are reusable products on the market which for an initial slightly larger outlay would save money in the long run. " A few days! I've been on my period for four weeks now and counting. All this has cost me extra money in buying my taxed sanitary products | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! I go through 3 boxes of pads and a box of tampax a month. I also use daily pads in between sometimes. It's much more then a bloody fiver let me tell you! Use a cheaper alternative,, it's your choice to use pads,, the most expensive" You dont know much about having periods do you Slopoke? Fuck all, clearly | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all a luxury item is something you can do without. to charge VAT (VALUE added tax) to them, no matter at what level implies that they are something a woman can do without. this is incorrect. i dont think they should be provided free as, depending on the brand you buy, they can be as little as £1 for balance....pitta bread does not have VAT added to it. The items you have listed as 'essential' such as razors, contact lenses and laser correction surgery are ridiculous and show you do not understand the matter at all. Ask your Mrs if she could go without her tampons or pads next month as they are a luxury and money is tight so you need to drop all luxury items! i'm sure she would be happy to." Why don't we just add VAT on tea, coffee, milk etc... all the things that are seen as essential, and see how many men kick up a fuss! | |||
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"I think he's just trying to work out who's blobbing at the moment by who gives a narky response. Me dude. I am. Come at me I'll tear your throat out " Not if I get him first | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny Poverty is bandied around too much these days. Sanitary products are cheap and only needed a few days a month, there are reusable products on the market which for an initial slightly larger outlay would save money in the long run. " for some ppl yes its only a few days a month but there are some ppl who have medical conditions that mean their periods are heavy and can last a hell of a lot longer then a few days i should know as i have that where i can go months without a period then when im lucky enough to have one it can last for 2 weeks and yes i have been to seek medical help after pushing for it | |||
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"I think he's just trying to work out who's blobbing at the moment by who gives a narky response. Me dude. I am. Come at me I'll tear your throat out " I will throw my tampon at him. Then pick it back up again because they are bloody expensive you know! | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable" Razors aren't a necessity either. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell" What's wrong with glasses? | |||
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"I was so poor last month I sat on a towel. True story. " I've two boxes going free to a good home. Now I'm hitting the menopause I don't get periods any more and I keep forgetting and buying more. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell What's wrong with glasses?" My glasses cost £200 a go. I can't buy those reading jobbies from Poundstretchers as they wouldn't be any good. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny Poverty is bandied around too much these days. Sanitary products are cheap and only needed a few days a month, there are reusable products on the market which for an initial slightly larger outlay would save money in the long run. " I bleed for a week. My flow is so heavy i have to use night pads AND tampons. Being female is quite expensive for some! | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all Some women can barely afford to feed the children. A 5% tax on sanitary products, as a luxury item, is unacceptable Just as if there was a tax on razor blades would not be acceptable Nobody stated that they want the price lowered or want these for free - Mrs. J - You use razors for your legs etc so you benefit from that,, and quite honestly 5% on tampons really is nothing at all,, why not raise it back to 20% and really give you something to moan about" Empathy - not! | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all Some women can barely afford to feed the children. A 5% tax on sanitary products, as a luxury item, is unacceptable Just as if there was a tax on razor blades would not be acceptable Nobody stated that they want the price lowered or want these for free - Mrs. J - You use razors for your legs etc so you benefit from that,, and quite honestly 5% on tampons really is nothing at all,, why not raise it back to 20% and really give you something to moan about Empathy - not!" His partner " cant understand" why people struggle to afford sanitary protection. As I said in another thread he posted in Lets hope she never has to, aye? | |||
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"Mixed thoughts on this myself. I honestly don't really care if tampax become free for women, doesn't effect my life. I think at least tax should be removed But if tampax become free? What's next? Should soap become free? Shower gel? After all are they not all hygiene products (Unprofessional opinion/question)" OP didnt suggest anything should be free! | |||
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"Mixed thoughts on this myself. I honestly don't really care if tampax become free for women, doesn't effect my life. I think at least tax should be removed But if tampax become free? What's next? Should soap become free? Shower gel? After all are they not all hygiene products (Unprofessional opinion/question) OP didnt suggest anything should be free!" I know, but it looks like they could become free in Scotland is labour get there way | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all Some women can barely afford to feed the children. A 5% tax on sanitary products, as a luxury item, is unacceptable Just as if there was a tax on razor blades would not be acceptable Nobody stated that they want the price lowered or want these for free - Mrs. J - You use razors for your legs etc so you benefit from that,, and quite honestly 5% on tampons really is nothing at all,, why not raise it back to 20% and really give you something to moan about Empathy - not! His partner " cant understand" why people struggle to afford sanitary protection. As I said in another thread he posted in Lets hope she never has to, aye?" Let's hope they end up with half a dozen daughters who all start menstruating at 11 and have a week's duration | |||
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"Mixed thoughts on this myself. I honestly don't really care if tampax become free for women, doesn't effect my life. I think at least tax should be removed But if tampax become free? What's next? Should soap become free? Shower gel? After all are they not all hygiene products (Unprofessional opinion/question)" i honestly think we're looking at pretty much everything becoming free now. something like the venus project makes a lot more sense than the economical system we have now. | |||
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"Apparently they are one of the things food banks give out most XXX" Yeah food bank do give them out.. My sister was going to one until I found out why | |||
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"It's shocking isn't it? I have written a letter of complaint to my local MP. Funnily enough he wasn't that interested There are some 'bleed free' campaigners out there campaigning on behalf of ladies everywhere " he couldn't have done anything anyway could he. 5% is the minimum vat rate alowed in the EEA for such products iirc. you need to write to your MEP | |||
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"Mixed thoughts on this myself. I honestly don't really care if tampax become free for women, doesn't effect my life. I think at least tax should be removed But if tampax become free? What's next? Should soap become free? Shower gel? After all are they not all hygiene products (Unprofessional opinion/question) i honestly think we're looking at pretty much everything becoming free now. something like the venus project makes a lot more sense than the economical system we have now." look up the rat utopia experiments. we are already starting to see a simmilar (though obviously less extreme) pattern forming in the developed world. if everything is free its possible we would follow the same route for the majority of people. the end of humanity or at least as a civilisation enough would survive to carry on but theyd be back in a survival situation which would remove the problem of abundance | |||
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"Unless you are in the bleed for 30+ years gang. Your opinion does not count! They should not be deemed as luxury items. No fucker wants periods. Sanitary products are a necessity, unless everyone accepts blood running down legs for five days to week EVERY month. I'm usually calm, but seriously. This really grits my shit..... And nobody ask if I'm on my period " I don't think we need to ask | |||
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"Mixed thoughts on this myself. I honestly don't really care if tampax become free for women, doesn't effect my life. I think at least tax should be removed But if tampax become free? What's next? Should soap become free? Shower gel? After all are they not all hygiene products (Unprofessional opinion/question) i honestly think we're looking at pretty much everything becoming free now. something like the venus project makes a lot more sense than the economical system we have now. look up the rat utopia experiments. we are already starting to see a simmilar (though obviously less extreme) pattern forming in the developed world. if everything is free its possible we would follow the same route for the majority of people. the end of humanity or at least as a civilisation enough would survive to carry on but theyd be back in a survival situation which would remove the problem of abundance" i lved the pics i saw on this. and how i haven't heard of it before now i'll never know. thanks. but i found this comment, which claims: Ultimately, “[r]ats may suffer from crowding; human beings can cope," Ramdsen says. "Calhoun’s research was seen not only as questionable, but also as dangerous.” Another researcher, Jonathan Freedman, turned to studying actual people — they were just high school and university students, but definitely human. His work suggested a different interpretation. Moral decay could arise “not from density, but from excessive social interaction,” Ramsden says. “Not all of Calhoun’s rats had gone berserk. Those who managed to control space led relatively normal lives.” | |||
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"It's shocking isn't it? I have written a letter of complaint to my local MP. Funnily enough he wasn't that interested There are some 'bleed free' campaigners out there campaigning on behalf of ladies everywhere he couldn't have done anything anyway could he. 5% is the minimum vat rate alowed in the EEA for such products iirc. you need to write to your MEP" When the finance bill was presented it was rejected by our MPs unfortunately and that would have forced a negotiation with the EU for a reduction of the 5% VAT. There wasn't much in the numbers which was what surprised me the most. The fact that they can be considered a luxury is the issue. | |||
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" is it both the interms ones and the pads that are taxed or just the internal ones and pads are vat free?" Unless you've experienced really heavy periods, you can have no understanding of why this comment is totally irrelevant. It matters why? | |||
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"Unless you are in the bleed for 30+ years gang. Your opinion does not count! They should not be deemed as luxury items. No fucker wants periods. Sanitary products are a necessity, unless everyone accepts blood running down legs for five days to week EVERY month. I'm usually calm, but seriously. This really grits my shit..... And nobody ask if I'm on my period " Am sure there is plenty of ladies & their partners were very happy & relieved to see a period!! | |||
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"I was so poor last month I sat on a towel. True story. " That's terrible, I've never given it much thought as a man. I believe Scotland are going to make them free in public buildings, schools, libraries etc. So they should be, they're a necessity not a luxury. | |||
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" is it both the interms ones and the pads that are taxed or just the internal ones and pads are vat free? Unless you've experienced really heavy periods, you can have no understanding of why this comment is totally irrelevant. It matters why?" Because the discussion is on taxed items. He's just clarifying which are taxed and which are not. | |||
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"Unless you are in the bleed for 30+ years gang. Your opinion does not count! They should not be deemed as luxury items. No fucker wants periods. Sanitary products are a necessity, unless everyone accepts blood running down legs for five days to week EVERY month. I'm usually calm, but seriously. This really grits my shit..... And nobody ask if I'm on my period Am sure there is plenty of ladies & their partners were very happy & relieved to see a period!!" Are you serious? Only because of a potential pregnancy scare . It doesn't mean women want periods in general. Honestly | |||
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" is it both the interms ones and the pads that are taxed or just the internal ones and pads are vat free? Unless you've experienced really heavy periods, you can have no understanding of why this comment is totally irrelevant. It matters why? Because the discussion is on taxed items. He's just clarifying which are taxed and which are not. " Perhaps so. But my point was that alot of women have to use both. Alot of both So, it really makes no odds | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! whilst i have never been in a situation where i could not buy my own sanitary products i do find it hard to believe that there is such a thing as 'period poverty'is a thing when you can buy packs of tampons for £1. like i say, i know i have been fortunate not to be in a position where i have not had to scrimp for every penny Poverty is bandied around too much these days. Sanitary products are cheap and only needed a few days a month, there are reusable products on the market which for an initial slightly larger outlay would save money in the long run. A few days! I've been on my period for four weeks now and counting. All this has cost me extra money in buying my taxed sanitary products " And I thought I was bad at 2 weeks at a time | |||
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" is it both the interms ones and the pads that are taxed or just the internal ones and pads are vat free? Unless you've experienced really heavy periods, you can have no understanding of why this comment is totally irrelevant. It matters why? Because the discussion is on taxed items. He's just clarifying which are taxed and which are not. Perhaps so. But my point was that alot of women have to use both. Alot of both So, it really makes no odds" I'm one of those. I sometimes have periods twice in a month because of 'womanly problems'. It is quite depressing, painful and they can be very heavy. Definitely not a luxury item. | |||
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"It's shocking isn't it? I have written a letter of complaint to my local MP. Funnily enough he wasn't that interested There are some 'bleed free' campaigners out there campaigning on behalf of ladies everywhere he couldn't have done anything anyway could he. 5% is the minimum vat rate alowed in the EEA for such products iirc. you need to write to your MEP When the finance bill was presented it was rejected by our MPs unfortunately and that would have forced a negotiation with the EU for a reduction of the 5% VAT. There wasn't much in the numbers which was what surprised me the most. The fact that they can be considered a luxury is the issue. " I wonder if this was mentioned in any if the Brexit manifestos? And if it will be 1 of many price changes when Brexit properly kicks in?? | |||
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"some shops have knocked the tax off (ie. they're paying it) but people are campaigning for sanitary products to be completely free. That's nice of the shops not to charge the tax.. Do you know if its for a long period??" Only a man could make a joke like this!!!!!!! | |||
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"I think this is indicitive of the divide and conquer method of ruling that we see in this country all too often now. Whether you think sanitary products are a LUXURY which should be taxed as such is the big issue. That in Britain today in 2017 we still have people who believe they are is abhorrent to me. Your contact lenses are of course very important to you and necessary. But if you weren't able to afford them and had to revert to nhs glasses would you have to suffer similar humility walking down the street? The hygiene issues and the social stigma is appaling. Perhaps look at it and think if it was your mother, sister, partner or daughter who couldn't afford them would you be so flippant? There are people dying in this country as a result of sanctions and the aggressive pursuit of the poor. Ex-servicemen being found dead beside a pile of CVs with no food in their stomach is a damning indictment on us all. I would suggest anyone who thinks this is all media lies or bad individual choices of how to deal with finances watch the wonderful Ted Talk by Jack Monroe. So insightful and so terrifying. https://youtu.be/ueew8giHXM4 " Absobloodylutely. And Jack Monroe rocks | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell" A pair of glasses from the opticians I work at costs as little as £25. Spectacles are a necessity, contact lenses are not! | |||
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"Please someone define to me and everyone else where the line is on this discussion, why they are a luxury?? Why they should be cheaper, why should this not be extended to people with other conditions that they can not help why must it be just tampons - how this will be funded?? How the general public will end up paying for it out of taxes, this may be a typical blokes response but I don't have periods but my other half does and she doesn't understand why some people find it hard going paying for these items and yes we are not rich at all a luxury item is something you can do without. to charge VAT (VALUE added tax) to them, no matter at what level implies that they are something a woman can do without. this is incorrect. i dont think they should be provided free as, depending on the brand you buy, they can be as little as £1 for balance....pitta bread does not have VAT added to it. The items you have listed as 'essential' such as razors, contact lenses and laser correction surgery are ridiculous and show you do not understand the matter at all. Ask your Mrs if she could go without her tampons or pads next month as they are a luxury and money is tight so you need to drop all luxury items! i'm sure she would be happy to." Getting slightly annoyed reading his responses and can't be bothered to type a reply cos he's just not getting it but you've basically said what I wanted to say!! | |||
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"I think this is indicitive of the divide and conquer method of ruling that we see in this country all too often now. Whether you think sanitary products are a LUXURY which should be taxed as such is the big issue. That in Britain today in 2017 we still have people who believe they are is abhorrent to me. Your contact lenses are of course very important to you and necessary. But if you weren't able to afford them and had to revert to nhs glasses would you have to suffer similar humility walking down the street? The hygiene issues and the social stigma is appaling. Perhaps look at it and think if it was your mother, sister, partner or daughter who couldn't afford them would you be so flippant? There are people dying in this country as a result of sanctions and the aggressive pursuit of the poor. Ex-servicemen being found dead beside a pile of CVs with no food in their stomach is a damning indictment on us all. I would suggest anyone who thinks this is all media lies or bad individual choices of how to deal with finances watch the wonderful Ted Talk by Jack Monroe. So insightful and so terrifying. https://youtu.be/ueew8giHXM4 " Thank you - great post. | |||
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"Wow Reading this thread has made me so sad that some people have less than £3 to spend on something as essential as sanitary items I have no idea about tax etc.. But it appears to be minimal. I dont think anything should be free. Everyone can do something. Earn your money, buy your essentials. " They aren't an essential. They are a luxury item. | |||
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"Wow Reading this thread has made me so sad that some people have less than £3 to spend on something as essential as sanitary items I have no idea about tax etc.. But it appears to be minimal. I dont think anything should be free. Everyone can do something. Earn your money, buy your essentials. They aren't an essential. They are a luxury item. " I hope tgey never become a " luxury item" in my world | |||
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"I think they are a luxury item not a necessity. I've never found sanitary protection that works for me so i don't use it. Yes what you buy in tesco or wherever may be better than the alternative but it's not essential. I have to pay 60 quid per contact lens and thats not a choice as my vision defect can't be corrected by glasses. Without them i can't drive or work so they are more essential to me than tampons. That being said there is a load of nonsense around what is vat rated and what isn't. childrens clothes: not taxed. Adult clothes are a luxury item?" If you don't mind me asking, what's your vision defect? I work in optics and am always interested in rare eye conditions. | |||
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"I think they are a luxury item not a necessity. I've never found sanitary protection that works for me so i don't use it. Yes what you buy in tesco or wherever may be better than the alternative but it's not essential. I have to pay 60 quid per contact lens and thats not a choice as my vision defect can't be corrected by glasses. Without them i can't drive or work so they are more essential to me than tampons. That being said there is a load of nonsense around what is vat rated and what isn't. childrens clothes: not taxed. Adult clothes are a luxury item?" Do you just bleed into your clothing during a period? | |||
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"Wow Reading this thread has made me so sad that some people have less than £3 to spend on something as essential as sanitary items I have no idea about tax etc.. But it appears to be minimal. I dont think anything should be free. Everyone can do something. Earn your money, buy your essentials. They aren't an essential. They are a luxury item. I hope tgey never become a " luxury item" in my world " Sanitary products already are a luxury. | |||
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"Wow Reading this thread has made me so sad that some people have less than £3 to spend on something as essential as sanitary items I have no idea about tax etc.. But it appears to be minimal. I dont think anything should be free. Everyone can do something. Earn your money, buy your essentials. " | |||
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"Loving the way that if you have any other view here than the majority than your branded a cunt lol it's a great world lol,, tampons are a Luxury item at present!! Get over it and just pay your tax on them!! Instead of complaining, otherwise it's everyone else who foots the overall bill,,yes women have periods but you don't need expensive items as they are luxury you could use the cup for instance,, there are bigger problems in the world !!" An expert on mooncups as well huh? Do enlighten us ladies with your knowledge Im sure we're all keen to save some pennies | |||
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"Loving the way that if you have any other view here than the majority than your branded a cunt lol it's a great world lol,, tampons are a Luxury item at present!! Get over it and just pay your tax on them!! Instead of complaining, otherwise it's everyone else who foots the overall bill,,yes women have periods but you don't need expensive items as they are luxury you could use the cup for instance,, there are bigger problems in the world !!" Who branded you that? it wasn't me but I don't agree with your comments. We shouldn't sit back and get over it, we should challenge it. They are not a luxury item. I'm not talking about getting anything for free or expecting others to pay. I am saying they are not a luxury item and therefore should not be subject to VAT. Use the cup? That has seriously made me laugh and they also are a vat rated item. | |||
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"Loving the way that if you have any other view here than the majority than your branded a cunt lol it's a great world lol,, tampons are a Luxury item at present!! Get over it and just pay your tax on them!! Instead of complaining, otherwise it's everyone else who foots the overall bill,,yes women have periods but you don't need expensive items as they are luxury you could use the cup for instance,, there are bigger problems in the world !!" But if I use the moon cup how am I supposed to sail a boat or play volleyball or climb a mountain or go to a party during my period? | |||
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"Loving the way that if you have any other view here than the majority than your branded a cunt lol it's a great world lol,, tampons are a Luxury item at present!! Get over it and just pay your tax on them!! Instead of complaining, otherwise it's everyone else who foots the overall bill,,yes women have periods but you don't need expensive items as they are luxury you could use the cup for instance,, there are bigger problems in the world !! Who branded you that? it wasn't me but I don't agree with your comments. We shouldn't sit back and get over it, we should challenge it. They are not a luxury item. I'm not talking about getting anything for free or expecting others to pay. I am saying they are not a luxury item and therefore should not be subject to VAT. Use the cup? That has seriously made me laugh and they also are a vat rated item. " Sanitary products should not be classed as luxury items, end of. A period is not a luxury. What if men had to pay vat on their spunk, they'd soon moan about it. | |||
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"Loving the way that if you have any other view here than the majority than your branded a cunt lol it's a great world lol,, tampons are a Luxury item at present!! Get over it and just pay your tax on them!! Instead of complaining, otherwise it's everyone else who foots the overall bill,,yes women have periods but you don't need expensive items as they are luxury you could use the cup for instance,, there are bigger problems in the world !!" Funny... I've never had a period and thought what a luxury it was. | |||
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"ON average a woman has her period three to seven days,from the age if 13 to 51 years old.Endures 456 total periods over 38 years,so thats 2.280 days with her period,which is 6.25 of her life,at a cost.of Tampax...1.773.00 pain killers 1.229.83 panty liners.443.00 new underwear.2.280.00 birth control 11.400.00 very expensive to be a woman." | |||
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"I think this is indicitive of the divide and conquer method of ruling that we see in this country all too often now. Whether you think sanitary products are a LUXURY which should be taxed as such is the big issue. That in Britain today in 2017 we still have people who believe they are is abhorrent to me. Your contact lenses are of course very important to you and necessary. But if you weren't able to afford them and had to revert to nhs glasses would you have to suffer similar humility walking down the street? The hygiene issues and the social stigma is appaling. Perhaps look at it and think if it was your mother, sister, partner or daughter who couldn't afford them would you be so flippant? There are people dying in this country as a result of sanctions and the aggressive pursuit of the poor. Ex-servicemen being found dead beside a pile of CVs with no food in their stomach is a damning indictment on us all. I would suggest anyone who thinks this is all media lies or bad individual choices of how to deal with finances watch the wonderful Ted Talk by Jack Monroe. So insightful and so terrifying. https://youtu.be/ueew8giHXM4 " well said.. When our son went to Uni we were fortunate to help him out financially each month with living expenses etc, 3 years later we did the same with his sister but we increased it for this very reason.. sanitary products are not a luxury and that in 2017 in any country women are having to go without food in order to buy such essentials is shameful.. there was an article on 5 live and also women's hour that covered this and that some girls will skip school when their period is happening and as they can't afford sanitary products so they use tea towels or other means .. | |||
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"Loving the way that if you have any other view here than the majority than your branded a cunt lol it's a great world lol,, tampons are a Luxury item at present!! Get over it and just pay your tax on them!! Instead of complaining, otherwise it's everyone else who foots the overall bill,,yes women have periods but you don't need expensive items as they are luxury you could use the cup for instance,, there are bigger problems in the world !!" you were called a cunt by a bloke m8, the majority of posters have been women and no one else has agreed with what you were called.. you do seem to have the right raving hump about this issue, is it a case of you would start an argument in an empty room or is it that you simply lack any empathy or understanding for what is a sorry state of affairs for the women in our society..? | |||
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"This is the first time i have heard of mooncups . They are not without problems - they could be problematic with IUD wearers. Or for women who have a tilted uterus (towards rectum instead of bladder. Mine tilts to the left ermmmm....). It states it holds more than tampons but doesn't state it could handle the Niagara falls. " When I'm heavy and out and about I wear a tampon and a lad just incase cos I'm paranoid. I wouldn't trust a thing holding it in and keeping it contained. | |||
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"This is the first time i have heard of mooncups . They are not without problems - they could be problematic with IUD wearers. Or for women who have a tilted uterus (towards rectum instead of bladder. Mine tilts to the left ermmmm....). It states it holds more than tampons but doesn't state it could handle the Niagara falls. When I'm heavy and out and about I wear a tampon and a lad just incase cos I'm paranoid. I wouldn't trust a thing holding it in and keeping it contained. " Poor lad, I can think of better jobs | |||
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"Apparently they are one of the things food banks give out most XXX Some may think you jest but you are so right In a recent appeal from our Church, we were asked to donate toiletries, including sanitary towels - Mrs. J -" Considering it is taxed as a luxury, do you blame the food banks for asking for them. | |||
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"This is the first time i have heard of mooncups . They are not without problems - they could be problematic with IUD wearers. Or for women who have a tilted uterus (towards rectum instead of bladder. Mine tilts to the left ermmmm....). It states it holds more than tampons but doesn't state it could handle the Niagara falls. When I'm heavy and out and about I wear a tampon and a lad just incase cos I'm paranoid. I wouldn't trust a thing holding it in and keeping it contained. Poor lad, I can think of better jobs " Hahaha oh shit only just noticed that! Yeah I have a lad with me holding my menstrual flow in! Oh god, I laughed then! | |||
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"Loving the way that if you have any other view here than the majority than your branded a cunt lol it's a great world lol,, tampons are a Luxury item at present!! Get over it and just pay your tax on them!! Instead of complaining, otherwise it's everyone else who foots the overall bill,,yes women have periods but you don't need expensive items as they are luxury you could use the cup for instance,, there are bigger problems in the world !!" Yeah, and listening to you is more painful than my period. *you're and definitely btw. Your welcome | |||
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" Do you just bleed into your clothing during a period? " I have never found a method of SP that worked. After years of ruined mattresses and always having to wear black trousers and sit on towels for the inevitable leakage from towels or 'leak proof' period pants..i can't use tampons or cups...I gave up and I take the pill so I just don't get periods. Not a solution for everyone but my life is so much better now. No mess. No smell. No panic. No vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea. No monthly thrush. Plus i think it has an anti-depressant effect for me. | |||
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" Do you just bleed into your clothing during a period? I have never found a method of SP that worked. After years of ruined mattresses and always having to wear black trousers and sit on towels for the inevitable leakage from towels or 'leak proof' period pants..i can't use tampons or cups...I gave up and I take the pill so I just don't get periods. Not a solution for everyone but my life is so much better now. No mess. No smell. No panic. No vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea. No monthly thrush. Plus i think it has an anti-depressant effect for me." And your experience makes you think sanitary protection is a luxury? | |||
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" Do you just bleed into your clothing during a period? I have never found a method of SP that worked. After years of ruined mattresses and always having to wear black trousers and sit on towels for the inevitable leakage from towels or 'leak proof' period pants..i can't use tampons or cups...I gave up and I take the pill so I just don't get periods. Not a solution for everyone but my life is so much better now. No mess. No smell. No panic. No vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea. No monthly thrush. Plus i think it has an anti-depressant effect for me." I'm glad you've found a solution which works for you but, as you say, it wouldn't be suitable for every woman, for myriad reasons. I'd happily take the pill non stop to have no periods but at my age, the choice of pill available to me is now restricted ... though I do manipulate the timing of my periods a fair bit with noreth6isterone (for which I have to jump through hoops) so I can 'enjoy' the 'luxury' of using sanitary protection at a time when they'll have least impact. In one way or another countless other women also do similar (e.g. using drugs or IUDs), trying to lessen the effect of something which, although completely natural, can be a literal and metaphorical pain ... luxurious it ain't! It's the *principle* of the powers that be decreeing that our unavoidable efforts to keep clean, hygienic and (relatively) comfortable is a 'luxury' which is so fucking insulting and patronising | |||
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" Do you just bleed into your clothing during a period? I have never found a method of SP that worked. After years of ruined mattresses and always having to wear black trousers and sit on towels for the inevitable leakage from towels or 'leak proof' period pants..i can't use tampons or cups...I gave up and I take the pill so I just don't get periods. Not a solution for everyone but my life is so much better now. No mess. No smell. No panic. No vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea. No monthly thrush. Plus i think it has an anti-depressant effect for me. I'm glad you've found a solution which works for you but, as you say, it wouldn't be suitable for every woman, for myriad reasons. I'd happily take the pill non stop to have no periods but at my age, the choice of pill available to me is now restricted ... though I do manipulate the timing of my periods a fair bit with noreth6isterone (for which I have to jump through hoops) so I can 'enjoy' the 'luxury' of using sanitary protection at a time when they'll have least impact. In one way or another countless other women also do similar (e.g. using drugs or IUDs), trying to lessen the effect of something which, although completely natural, can be a literal and metaphorical pain ... luxurious it ain't! It's the *principle* of the powers that be decreeing that our unavoidable efforts to keep clean, hygienic and (relatively) comfortable is a 'luxury' which is so fucking insulting and patronising " Are nappies a luxury item? If not, why? Nappies and sanitary protection have followed the same evolutionary path. They also attempt to contain a human waste product that is expelled by automatic processes. So I'll ask again, are nappies a luxury item? | |||
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"Seriously, these are classed as a luxury item and are taxed at 5% - Mrs. J -" You can sign a petition on Change.org to change this. Rather than wait until 2019 for the government to change this, major supermarkets are being petitioned to pick up the tax tab. It's working. | |||
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" Do you just bleed into your clothing during a period? I have never found a method of SP that worked. After years of ruined mattresses and always having to wear black trousers and sit on towels for the inevitable leakage from towels or 'leak proof' period pants..i can't use tampons or cups...I gave up and I take the pill so I just don't get periods. Not a solution for everyone but my life is so much better now. No mess. No smell. No panic. No vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea. No monthly thrush. Plus i think it has an anti-depressant effect for me. I'm glad you've found a solution which works for you but, as you say, it wouldn't be suitable for every woman, for myriad reasons. I'd happily take the pill non stop to have no periods but at my age, the choice of pill available to me is now restricted ... though I do manipulate the timing of my periods a fair bit with noreth6isterone (for which I have to jump through hoops) so I can 'enjoy' the 'luxury' of using sanitary protection at a time when they'll have least impact. In one way or another countless other women also do similar (e.g. using drugs or IUDs), trying to lessen the effect of something which, although completely natural, can be a literal and metaphorical pain ... luxurious it ain't! It's the *principle* of the powers that be decreeing that our unavoidable efforts to keep clean, hygienic and (relatively) comfortable is a 'luxury' which is so fucking insulting and patronising Are nappies a luxury item? If not, why? Nappies and sanitary protection have followed the same evolutionary path. They also attempt to contain a human waste product that is expelled by automatic processes. So I'll ask again, are nappies a luxury item?" I couldn't find nappies but ironically incontinence pads are 0% VAT. Many types of incontinence can be corrected medically or simply strengthening the pelvic floor muscles... I'm dumbfounded at the logic. Could it truly be a a biological sex thing? | |||
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" Do you just bleed into your clothing during a period? I have never found a method of SP that worked. After years of ruined mattresses and always having to wear black trousers and sit on towels for the inevitable leakage from towels or 'leak proof' period pants..i can't use tampons or cups...I gave up and I take the pill so I just don't get periods. Not a solution for everyone but my life is so much better now. No mess. No smell. No panic. No vomiting, nausea and diarrhoea. No monthly thrush. Plus i think it has an anti-depressant effect for me. I'm glad you've found a solution which works for you but, as you say, it wouldn't be suitable for every woman, for myriad reasons. I'd happily take the pill non stop to have no periods but at my age, the choice of pill available to me is now restricted ... though I do manipulate the timing of my periods a fair bit with noreth6isterone (for which I have to jump through hoops) so I can 'enjoy' the 'luxury' of using sanitary protection at a time when they'll have least impact. In one way or another countless other women also do similar (e.g. using drugs or IUDs), trying to lessen the effect of something which, although completely natural, can be a literal and metaphorical pain ... luxurious it ain't! It's the *principle* of the powers that be decreeing that our unavoidable efforts to keep clean, hygienic and (relatively) comfortable is a 'luxury' which is so fucking insulting and patronising Are nappies a luxury item? If not, why? Nappies and sanitary protection have followed the same evolutionary path. They also attempt to contain a human waste product that is expelled by automatic processes. So I'll ask again, are nappies a luxury item? I couldn't find nappies but ironically incontinence pads are 0% VAT. Many types of incontinence can be corrected medically or simply strengthening the pelvic floor muscles... I'm dumbfounded at the logic. Could it truly be a a biological sex thing?" Here's the official link https://www.gov.uk/guidance/rates-of-vat-on-different-goods-and-services#clothing-and-footwear-protective-and-safety-equipment | |||
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"I think he's just trying to work out who's blobbing at the moment by who gives a narky response. Me dude. I am. Come at me I'll tear your throat out " Love it! | |||
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"I think he's just trying to work out who's blobbing at the moment by who gives a narky response. Me dude. I am. Come at me I'll tear your throat out I will throw my tampon at him. Then pick it back up again because they are bloody expensive you know! " So you can re-use them! Seriously though, it is ridiculous that they are considered a luxury item. | |||
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"Wow unless your homeless can't believe anyone would do these things just to save a fiver!! Yet I bet if your a smoker you still bought fags or vaping fluid,, if your a drinker you still bought a drink!!! Razors are not taxed Not every woman can afford that much money and it is not just a fiver when you have heavy periods - Mrs. J - PS. Razors can be reused; I see him using the same razor for days. Sanitary towels are not reusable What about contact lenses which I need!! Cost me £15 a month for a defect in my eyes, not my fault but I need them - should I get the government to pay for them p.s I work but hey what the hell You can claim glasses back on the NHS. You choose to have the luxury of contacts. Women don't choose to have to bleed every month. What about diva cups .99pence all you pay,, tampons cost £1.50 hmm the vat is nothing much on that!! It's your choice what you use but it really doesn't cost that much, oh and who will make the money back on the free vat - tax payers so we end up paying for you If the government is going to do something it should be to abolish prescription charge on meds people actually need!! they do. if you have a prescription for something your body cannot make but cannot do without you get a medical exemption certificate. i get one for my diabetes medication that i am hoping to hand back soon" I have exemption for thyroid medication it's a lifelong condition and will never go unfortunately | |||
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"Seriously, these are classed as a luxury item and are taxed at 5% - Mrs. J -" I've known this for years lol x | |||
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"They not luxury sometimes my flow 3 to 5 but heavy if miss one get 2 weeks heavy flow.I alway remember my mum using old piece of sheet for herself make sure we had sanitary towels as few girls in household myself could buy cheapest depend if they work for me some men not got clue about monthly only if they had them wouldn't say then if vat om them but that guy got no clue till he have maybe daughters. " Well said | |||
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"I get no help with my cardiac meds." Sanitary products aren't medication. Are prescriptions taxed as a luxury item? | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? " Quite a lot actually... | |||
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"I get no help with my cardiac meds. Sanitary products aren't medication. Are prescriptions taxed as a luxury item? " I was just adding to the post above mine really. Just didn't press quote. | |||
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"Seriously, these are classed as a luxury item and are taxed at 5% - Mrs. J -" Blame Europe. Welcome Brexit. | |||
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"I was so poor last month I sat on a towel. True story. " Buy a bag of cotton wool balls and roll your own. Fuzz | |||
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"I get no help with my cardiac meds. Sanitary products aren't medication. Are prescriptions taxed as a luxury item? I was just adding to the post above mine really. Just didn't press quote." I'm not bloody psychic Clem. Plus, I didn't read the post above yours | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... " Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? " Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. | |||
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" Are nappies a luxury item? If not, why? Nappies and sanitary protection have followed the same evolutionary path. They also attempt to contain a human waste product that is expelled by automatic processes. So I'll ask again, are nappies a luxury item?" Disposable ones should be. IMHO. | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. " She never said women don't work through it. Most do! Yes I'm aware you're trolling but i still had to respond | |||
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" Are nappies a luxury item? If not, why? Nappies and sanitary protection have followed the same evolutionary path. They also attempt to contain a human waste product that is expelled by automatic processes. So I'll ask again, are nappies a luxury item? Disposable ones should be. IMHO." Inco pads? | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. " Because they have to suffer pain while they work? | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. She never said women don't work through it. Most do! Yes I'm aware you're trolling but i still had to respond " I worked through years of flooding and terrible pain from my periods. I think that's a woman thing though. A man would be at home laying in bed every month. | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. She never said women don't work through it. Most do! Yes I'm aware you're trolling but i still had to respond I worked through years of flooding and terrible pain from my periods. I think that's a woman thing though. A man would be at home laying in bed every month." Take man flu for instance | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. She never said women don't work through it. Most do! Yes I'm aware you're trolling but i still had to respond I worked through years of flooding and terrible pain from my periods. I think that's a woman thing though. A man would be at home laying in bed every month." Christ imagine if you'd had a real job like an airline pilot or brain surgeon whilst you were experiencing that....... doesn't bare thinking about. | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. She never said women don't work through it. Most do! Yes I'm aware you're trolling but i still had to respond I worked through years of flooding and terrible pain from my periods. I think that's a woman thing though. A man would be at home laying in bed every month. Christ imagine if you'd had a real job like an airline pilot or brain surgeon whilst you were experiencing that....... doesn't bare thinking about. " Just imagine if a woman had a real job like being the Prime Minister... Doesn't bear thinking about | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? " A problem shared and all that......Some men actually live with women, not on here I grant you. Many the time I have rushed out for emergency supplies/medication and provided comfort as much as a man can. | |||
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"Urgh! Men shut up! What do you know about bleeding everywhere!? Quite a lot actually... Every month for between a day and 7 days? With extreme abdominal pain, and causing anaemia? Exactly why women should only be paid 3/4 of a man's salary. Good point. She never said women don't work through it. Most do! Yes I'm aware you're trolling but i still had to respond I worked through years of flooding and terrible pain from my periods. I think that's a woman thing though. A man would be at home laying in bed every month. Christ imagine if you'd had a real job like an airline pilot or brain surgeon whilst you were experiencing that....... doesn't bare thinking about. Just imagine if a woman had a real job like being the Prime Minister... Doesn't bear thinking about " Explains alot doesn't it? "Its time for a general election." "Are you sure prime minister? The opinion polls are......" "OF COURSE I'M FUCKING SURE! WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS ASKING ME QUESTIONS?! NOW FUCK OFF AND GET ME SOME CHOCOLATE! " | |||
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"Mixed thoughts on this myself. I honestly don't really care if tampax become free for women, doesn't effect my life. I think at least tax should be removed But if tampax become free? What's next? Should soap become free? Shower gel? After all are they not all hygiene products (Unprofessional opinion/question) OP didnt suggest anything should be free! I know, but it looks like they could become free in Scotland is labour get there way" More free stuff for the scottish! They'll still grumble (I'm kidding - before you all kick off!) I think the point had been well and truly made here Why tax sanitary products as a luxury when something like caviar as the poster above suggested isn't taxed. It's a crazy crazy mixed up world | |||
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