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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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ok so you join the online sex meets world for what ever reason but would you describe your experiences since joining the revolution as
a positive
or a negative
ladies guys only by all means comment on the guys posts but the thread is about whether guys get a positive lift from these kinds of sites or whether it reinforces any negative issues they all ready have . |
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To be honest I (paul) only joined here because a couple of swingers mentioned it to me. Maybe I'm old fashioned, or just old, but I've always played in the real world and I just don't get the whole online thing in any context. |
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over a year ago
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I've only had one meet so far and I screwed it up by being shy and too new to this world to make a move, she still talks to me though and it's given me a positive outlook on it, I was on for a while before but didn't get further than short chats. When you're lucky and get a message it can really make the pulse race if you don't/can't read it straight away! |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell. "
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've only had one meet so far and I screwed it up by being shy and too new to this world to make a move, she still talks to me though and it's given me a positive outlook on it, I was on for a while before but didn't get further than short chats. When you're lucky and get a message it can really make the pulse race if you don't/can't read it straight away!"
Yes thats a 100% positive. At least you know now where to improve and to enable the nxt meet to be better! At least people have an insight to the person they are meeting aswell rather than... ohhh do you wanna drink luv!! No thanks lol |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"To be honest I (paul) only joined here because a couple of swingers mentioned it to me. Maybe I'm old fashioned, or just old, but I've always played in the real world and I just don't get the whole online thing in any context."
I'm perplexed a lot of the time on sites like this myself so your not alone in that school of thought . |
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By *G LanaTV/TS
over a year ago
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I find it a mixed blessing. I have met some wonderful people and chatted to a fair number more about things I would bring up in more vanilla groups. If I didn't find it an overall positive experience I would leave, however, as a bi guy I have received a bit of abuse on here over the years and as someone who sometime feels a little socially isolated being regularly ignored or actively rejected doesn't necessarily help. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'd say mainly positive but unfortunately there are those on here who can be very abusive towards single guys (yes this does happen), and lately I'd say the single women have become very angry, just reading the local updates statuses suggest something is wrong here. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"I've only had one meet so far and I screwed it up by being shy and too new to this world to make a move, she still talks to me though and it's given me a positive outlook on it, I was on for a while before but didn't get further than short chats. When you're lucky and get a message it can really make the pulse race if you don't/can't read it straight away!"
hay if your naturally a shy guy you did no wrong
its ok to be shy its ok to be nervous don't ever lose the things that make you you
it didn't work out you being nervous this time but that's a quality a lot of women will find endearing as it shows you genuinely care hence you being nervous . |
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"I've only had one meet so far and I screwed it up by being shy and too new to this world to make a move, she still talks to me though and it's given me a positive outlook on it, I was on for a while before but didn't get further than short chats. When you're lucky and get a message it can really make the pulse race if you don't/can't read it straight away!
Yes thats a 100% positive. At least you know now where to improve and to enable the nxt meet to be better! At least people have an insight to the person they are meeting aswell rather than... ohhh do you wanna drink luv!! No thanks lol"
I message ladies with all sorts, never copied and pasted, very little response obvs, I think my meet started with a wink if I remember correctly, damn my short term mem.... |
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"I've only had one meet so far and I screwed it up by being shy and too new to this world to make a move, she still talks to me though and it's given me a positive outlook on it, I was on for a while before but didn't get further than short chats. When you're lucky and get a message it can really make the pulse race if you don't/can't read it straight away!
hay if your naturally a shy guy you did no wrong
its ok to be shy its ok to be nervous don't ever lose the things that make you you
it didn't work out you being nervous this time but that's a quality a lot of women will find endearing as it shows you genuinely care hence you being nervous . "
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"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward . "
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner |
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"ok so you join the online sex meets world for what ever reason but would you describe your experiences since joining the revolution as
a positive
or a negative
ladies guys only by all means comment on the guys posts but the thread is about whether guys get a positive lift from these kinds of sites or whether it reinforces any negative issues they all ready have . "
I have been on dating sites and found them to be just impossible to get any sensible results as they appear to just want your money. I was on another swinging site before this one and it was quite good although It was expensive. Since being on this site I've had much better results and had a lot of fun and the best thing is your not treated as a cash cow. However there is always the bell ends mostly male sadly that get some sort of pleasure out of wasting your time. I do think though it's more of an Internet thing rather than just sex or dating sites. I have found that once you get to recognise the time wasters and just avoid them this makes the site much more enjoyable. I'm on fab guys as well as this site and over all my experience of both has been very positive. |
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"To be honest I (paul) only joined here because a couple of swingers mentioned it to me. Maybe I'm old fashioned, or just old, but I've always played in the real world and I just don't get the whole online thing in any context.
I'm perplexed a lot of the time on sites like this myself so your not alone in that school of thought ."
So that beg's the question why be on here! |
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"I've only had one meet so far and I screwed it up by being shy and too new to this world to make a move, she still talks to me though and it's given me a positive outlook on it, I was on for a while before but didn't get further than short chats. When you're lucky and get a message it can really make the pulse race if you don't/can't read it straight away!
hay if your naturally a shy guy you did no wrong
its ok to be shy its ok to be nervous don't ever lose the things that make you you
it didn't work out you being nervous this time but that's a quality a lot of women will find endearing as it shows you genuinely care hence you being nervous . "
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
in the eye of the storm |
"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward .
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner "
the post isn't really about success rate its about whether the whole package ends up being a positive reinforcing of a guys life or a negative influence in the long term . |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"I will borrow this line from a certain lady on here;
"I've reached the conclusion that this place can actively make having sex the furthest thing on my mind."
Amen"
so true clever lady who ever she was |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I find it a mixed blessing. I have met some wonderful people and chatted to a fair number more about things I would bring up in more vanilla groups. If I didn't find it an overall positive experience I would leave, however, as a bi guy I have received a bit of abuse on here over the years and as someone who sometime feels a little socially isolated being regularly
ignored or actively rejected doesn't necessarily help."
Haha you shoukd try putting Gay on your profile and see if you get ignored.
To be honest I don't give a f*** it's a sex sight !!
If you had abuse you should have reported it. I haven't, but my block list is longer than an andrex toilet roll lol
Met a few hot guys but they don't want to give a veri because they have straight on their profile. It's not the real world on here |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I'd say mainly positive but unfortunately there are those on here who can be very abusive towards single guys (yes this does happen), and lately I'd say the single women have become very angry, just reading the local updates statuses suggest something is wrong here."
It's a never ending circle. Abuse results in abuse.
Lots of women brag about how rude they are to men yet whine when men are rude to them. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
in the eye of the storm |
"To be honest I (paul) only joined here because a couple of swingers mentioned it to me. Maybe I'm old fashioned, or just old, but I've always played in the real world and I just don't get the whole online thing in any context.
I'm perplexed a lot of the time on sites like this myself so your not alone in that school of thought .
So that beg's the question why be on here!"
I'm here but I'm not here
I use fab mainly as one would use a magazine something to read in ones down time the only difference is one can participate with topics of ones own on here . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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For the most part it has been a positive experience for me on here. It's definitely made me a more open minded individual.
There's been the odd bit of nastiness, but otherwise I've found the majority of my time on fab has lead to forming some great friendships (as well as some deliciously naughty fun too of course) |
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"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward .
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner
the post isn't really about success rate its about whether the whole package ends up being a positive reinforcing of a guys life or a negative influence in the long term . "
Excellent thread OP. I know of many men that have found it a very negative experience.
I wish that for one week men couldn't send mails and the women and couples would be forced to send first mail. I hope it would change their perception and attitude. Probably not though. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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I see a divide already beginning to form by that I mean
so far in this post its the bi guys reporting a over all more positive experience
I wonder if that's down to dealing with a wider demographic that a heterosexual guy deals with . |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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Most definitely a positive for me - have chatted to and met some lovely people (either socially or otherwise) and the overall experience has been a good one.
I think it's all about setting your expectations correctly, showing a positive attitude and generally being polite, courteous and respectful - of course ensuring you have a decent profile and pics and getting involved in the right way helps.
Those who see the site negatively tend to be single guys who come on here with an expectation of instant sex for very little effort and then get frustrated when that proves not to be the case, which then leads them to air those frustrations via negative posts and status updates, and the downward spiral continues until they either leave the site or change their attitude. |
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It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough |
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"I see a divide already beginning to form by that I mean
so far in this post its the bi guys reporting a over all more positive experience
I wonder if that's down to dealing with a wider demographic that a heterosexual guy deals with . "
I've not had anything negative about being bi apart from you'll see profiles stating no bi guys because of old stereotypes about us being riddled with diseases. However as a TV I do receive the odd abusive message from men out of nowhere, I just put it down to them supressing their own confusing feelings for TVs |
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"I will borrow this line from a certain lady on here;
"I've reached the conclusion that this place can actively make having sex the furthest thing on my mind."
Amen
so true clever lady who ever she was "
So that works both way's does it,it's certainly been true for me at time's. I see it as being more a woman thing as men send out the majority of messages,don't know about couples as I'm not one. |
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"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward .
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner
the post isn't really about success rate its about whether the whole package ends up being a positive reinforcing of a guys life or a negative influence in the long term . "
I wasn't referring to success rate.
If a man sends a certain type of message, he's going to get a knock back, therefore he's going to have a negative opinion.
If a guy sends, a good well written message, he's more likely to recieve a good response, therefore he'll have a positive response.
That was my reference to being a winner |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
in the eye of the storm |
"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward .
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner
the post isn't really about success rate its about whether the whole package ends up being a positive reinforcing of a guys life or a negative influence in the long term .
Excellent thread OP. I know of many men that have found it a very negative experience.
I wish that for one week men couldn't send mails and the women and couples would be forced to send first mail. I hope it would change their perception and attitude. Probably not though. "
i have known some truly funny intelligent thoughtful men who i met online or at socials
who were heterosexual by the way that had to leave this online world because in the end it was a negative influence on there vibe far more than it was a positive
i could go into reasons and examples but that would be a breach of there trust in me as there buddy so i can't say what messed with there natural high but once they left they found they were far happier as men .
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No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
in the eye of the storm |
"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward .
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner
the post isn't really about success rate its about whether the whole package ends up being a positive reinforcing of a guys life or a negative influence in the long term .
I wasn't referring to success rate.
If a man sends a certain type of message, he's going to get a knock back, therefore he's going to have a negative opinion.
If a guy sends, a good well written message, he's more likely to recieve a good response, therefore he'll have a positive response.
That was my reference to being a winner "
being successful in lets be a bit crude here getting a meet and play can also lead to a negative vibe for the guys and a negative opinion of themselves down the line .
yes i quick rebuttal can sting but so can a lot of other things its no coincidence that a lot of guys don't last past a few years on these types of sites even the successful guys leave in the end ,
that is the acid test if it was such a great positive influence on one life no one would ever leave would they .
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I'd say my experience has been largely negative, but can narrow down the why to 2 categories.
I'll add here that I'm always courteous in my messages and try to use information found in a person's profile in my messages and address both if sending to a couple. If someone says no, then I don't pester and move on.
First one is something I can control is my body type (weight). Most would rather prefer a gentleman who's in good body shapes and I'll admit I'm not. It's been something I've been working on and steadily losing weight throughout the year.
Second category is something I cannot control is the stigma attached to Asian men on here. I've tried not revealing that information and/or being upfront about it - results in pretty much no meets as soon as it's revealed as I'm always truthful when asked on here. If a profile has "no Asian" then I won't contact them (as it's their preference), but any I do try is always met with a nope once realised. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women."
do you really think that lowly of my fellow men
most men i know are polite funny intelligent characters who are very entertaining individuals to be around .
i think you will find its this place how they are treated that makes the vent
after all what is a negative outburst at its heart its a cry for help at the end of the day in my opinion , |
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"No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women.
do you really think that lowly of my fellow men
most men i know are polite funny intelligent characters who are very entertaining individuals to be around .
i think you will find its this place how they are treated that makes the vent
after all what is a negative outburst at its heart its a cry for help at the end of the day in my opinion , "
What do you mean do I think so lowly of your fellow men?! I certainly don't think lowly of the men who can send respectful polite message's who don't come across as treating us women as unpaid prostitutes on here. Those men have my utmost respect and that's the men I've met in the past! Don't paint me as being some man hater here!
I have never treated a man with comtempt on here unless they have done so to me first. So you're saying if a man sends out a 'cry for help' as you call it I should drop my knickers! |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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"No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women.
do you really think that lowly of my fellow men
most men i know are polite funny intelligent characters who are very entertaining individuals to be around .
i think you will find its this place how they are treated that makes the vent
after all what is a negative outburst at its heart its a cry for help at the end of the day in my opinion , "
Don't think for a minute that Ignite thinks lowly of men at all - what she said makes perfect sense to me - as a bi guy, and also being part of a couples profile and hearing about my partner's experience with her solo profile, I feel fairly well qualified to comment from a non-single guy perspective - some of the messages seen from men across all those profiles (my own included) leave a lot to be desired and show a clear lack of understanding on the part of the sender as to what this site and swinging is about.
Where I disagree with Ignite is with the "hate to be a guy on here" comment - I've honestly never been treated negatively by the people I've interacted with - as I said in my earlier post, you get out of this site what you put into it - have a positive, courteous and respectful attitude and you generally get the same in return - have a negative one full of false expectations and you're going to be disappointed. |
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"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward .
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner
the post isn't really about success rate its about whether the whole package ends up being a positive reinforcing of a guys life or a negative influence in the long term .
Excellent thread OP. I know of many men that have found it a very negative experience.
I wish that for one week men couldn't send mails and the women and couples would be forced to send first mail. I hope it would change their perception and attitude. Probably not though. "
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"Most definitely a positive for me - have chatted to and met some lovely people (either socially or otherwise) and the overall experience has been a good one.
I think it's all about setting your expectations correctly, showing a positive attitude and generally being polite, courteous and respectful - of course ensuring you have a decent profile and pics and getting involved in the right way helps.
Those who see the site negatively tend to be single guys who come on here with an expectation of instant sex for very little effort and then get frustrated when that proves not to be the case, which then leads them to air those frustrations via negative posts and status updates, and the downward spiral continues until they either leave the site or change their attitude."
oh the right attitude |
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"I see a divide already beginning to form by that I mean
so far in this post its the bi guys reporting a over all more positive experience
I wonder if that's down to dealing with a wider demographic that a heterosexual guy deals with . "
And a straight guy! |
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"No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women.
do you really think that lowly of my fellow men
most men i know are polite funny intelligent characters who are very entertaining individuals to be around .
i think you will find its this place how they are treated that makes the vent
after all what is a negative outburst at its heart its a cry for help at the end of the day in my opinion ,
Don't think for a minute that Ignite thinks lowly of men at all - what she said makes perfect sense to me - as a bi guy, and also being part of a couples profile and hearing about my partner's experience with her solo profile, I feel fairly well qualified to comment from a non-single guy perspective - some of the messages seen from men across all those profiles (my own included) leave a lot to be desired and show a clear lack of understanding on the part of the sender as to what this site and swinging is about.
Where I disagree with Ignite is with the "hate to be a guy on here" comment - I've honestly never been treated negatively by the people I've interacted with - as I said in my earlier post, you get out of this site what you put into it - have a positive, courteous and respectful attitude and you generally get the same in return - have a negative one full of false expectations and you're going to be disappointed."
Thankyou,with the I would hate to be a man comment I meant more in the fact there's so many men on here so the competition so to speak is high. Being a woman on here is easier as there's not so many of us. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women.
do you really think that lowly of my fellow men
most men i know are polite funny intelligent characters who are very entertaining individuals to be around .
i think you will find its this place how they are treated that makes the vent
after all what is a negative outburst at its heart its a cry for help at the end of the day in my opinion ,
What do you mean do I think so lowly of your fellow men?! I certainly don't think lowly of the men who can send respectful polite message's who don't come across as treating us women as unpaid prostitutes on here. Those men have my utmost respect and that's the men I've met in the past! Don't paint me as being some man hater here!
I have never treated a man with comtempt on here unless they have done so to me first. So you're saying if a man sends out a 'cry for help' as you call it I should drop my knickers!"
no I'm not saying that
you stated most men don't no how to talk to women that statement i find slightly offensive as your putting down my fellow men
in my experience most men not all but most are funny articulate very polite and timid around women that timid behaviour is born out of a fear of offending women most men i personally know would never knowingly set out to offend a woman .
i think you will find most of the guys online fall into that category of men
this fact means their messages are going to seem rather dull boring affairs
like hi how are you today
which i guess a lot of women would class as having no idea how to talk to women
no in fact i know that thought process to be true of a lot of woman on sites like this when it comes to messages like that from men .
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Being here has grown my confidence in so many ways . I have some brilliant friends , every thing is a positive and every day is an opportunity to learn some thing positive about yourself |
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"No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women.
do you really think that lowly of my fellow men
most men i know are polite funny intelligent characters who are very entertaining individuals to be around .
i think you will find its this place how they are treated that makes the vent
after all what is a negative outburst at its heart its a cry for help at the end of the day in my opinion ,
Don't think for a minute that Ignite thinks lowly of men at all - what she said makes perfect sense to me - as a bi guy, and also being part of a couples profile and hearing about my partner's experience with her solo profile, I feel fairly well qualified to comment from a non-single guy perspective - some of the messages seen from men across all those profiles (my own included) leave a lot to be desired and show a clear lack of understanding on the part of the sender as to what this site and swinging is about.
Where I disagree with Ignite is with the "hate to be a guy on here" comment - I've honestly never been treated negatively by the people I've interacted with - as I said in my earlier post, you get out of this site what you put into it - have a positive, courteous and respectful attitude and you generally get the same in return - have a negative one full of false expectations and you're going to be disappointed.
Thankyou,with the I would hate to be a man comment I meant more in the fact there's so many men on here so the competition so to speak is high. Being a woman on here is easier as there's not so many of us. "
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"No-one should be on here if it makes them unhappy that's just crazy if they are. There's nothing more unattractive than a negative attitude.I
I would hate to be a guy on here as all we tend to hear is how badly their treated,how no-one will meet them etc,but some men just don't have a clue how to talk to women.
do you really think that lowly of my fellow men
most men i know are polite funny intelligent characters who are very entertaining individuals to be around .
i think you will find its this place how they are treated that makes the vent
after all what is a negative outburst at its heart its a cry for help at the end of the day in my opinion ,
What do you mean do I think so lowly of your fellow men?! I certainly don't think lowly of the men who can send respectful polite message's who don't come across as treating us women as unpaid prostitutes on here. Those men have my utmost respect and that's the men I've met in the past! Don't paint me as being some man hater here!
I have never treated a man with comtempt on here unless they have done so to me first. So you're saying if a man sends out a 'cry for help' as you call it I should drop my knickers!
no I'm not saying that
you stated most men don't no how to talk to women that statement i find slightly offensive as your putting down my fellow men
in my experience most men not all but most are funny articulate very polite and timid around women that timid behaviour is born out of a fear of offending women most men i personally know would never knowingly set out to offend a woman .
i think you will find most of the guys online fall into that category of men
this fact means their messages are going to seem rather dull boring affairs
like hi how are you today
which i guess a lot of women would class as having no idea how to talk to women
no in fact i know that thought process to be true of a lot of woman on sites like this when it comes to messages like that from men .
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Ok I certainly don't see "Hi how are you today?" as someone who doesn't know how to speak to women,I see that as being a perfectly good opening message I can't comment on other women however and this is not a 'them versus us' thing when you keep speaking about your fellow men. I expect every man or woman to treat others with respect. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough "
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Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here . "
That also can be said for women! |
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The last 3 or 4 months have been the best few months of my life, personally. And that's off the back of this site. So, ultimately I would say being here has been positive for me. When I look back at the person I was when I first joined up to the person I am right now, I can only say the experience has been a positive one. There's been ups and downs and I think the tedium that can go along with being a single, straight guy wore me down somewhat and I lost interest at various points along the way but ultimately being here has led me to a much better place in my life. |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
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" Where I disagree with Ignite is with the "hate to be a guy on here" comment - I've honestly never been treated negatively by the people I've interacted with - as I said in my earlier post, you get out of this site what you put into it - have a positive, courteous and respectful attitude and you generally get the same in return - have a negative one full of false expectations and you're going to be disappointed.
Thankyou,with the I would hate to be a man comment I meant more in the fact there's so many men on here so the competition so to speak is high. Being a woman on here is easier as there's not so many of us. "
Yes it's true the ratio of men to women is imbalanced but that doesn't have to mean with the right attitude and approach that it should be seen as a barrier either - I don't view the way I interact here as being in "competition" with other guys (and I know you used the term loosely) and don't think a lot of other guys with a positive attitude do either.
It's the ones who have false expectations and a negative attitude that tend to blame the imbalance for their lack of "success" rather than looking closer to home for the reason in a lot of cases.
And of course low expectations, positive attitude, a well written profile, decent pics and good messaging skills are no guarantee of anything but they ARE a good position to start from |
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" Where I disagree with Ignite is with the "hate to be a guy on here" comment - I've honestly never been treated negatively by the people I've interacted with - as I said in my earlier post, you get out of this site what you put into it - have a positive, courteous and respectful attitude and you generally get the same in return - have a negative one full of false expectations and you're going to be disappointed.
Thankyou,with the I would hate to be a man comment I meant more in the fact there's so many men on here so the competition so to speak is high. Being a woman on here is easier as there's not so many of us.
Yes it's true the ratio of men to women is imbalanced but that doesn't have to mean with the right attitude and approach that it should be seen as a barrier either - I don't view the way I interact here as being in "competition" with other guys (and I know you used the term loosely) and don't think a lot of other guys with a positive attitude do either.
It's the ones who have false expectations and a negative attitude that tend to blame the imbalance for their lack of "success" rather than looking closer to home for the reason in a lot of cases.
And of course low expectations, positive attitude, a well written profile, decent pics and good messaging skills are no guarantee of anything but they ARE a good position to start from "
You come across well and talk sense and 'don't' take my words out of context unlike some people around here |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here .
That also can be said for women!"
yes it can but this post isn't about a women's experience gained from their time of sites like this
its a place for men to expense their experiences in a thoughtful way without being hung out to dry by there fellow men or the women on here for that matter,
i personally don't think the negative is all that different between the sexes because feeling are not sex dependent at the end of the day we all have them , |
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here .
That also can be said for women!
yes it can but this post isn't about a women's experience gained from their time of sites like this
its a place for men to expense their experiences in a thoughtful way without being hung out to dry by there fellow men or the women on here for that matter,
i personally don't think the negative is all that different between the sexes because feeling are not sex dependent at the end of the day we all have them , "
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies."
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?... |
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies.
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?... "
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here .
That also can be said for women!
yes it can but this post isn't about a women's experience gained from their time of sites like this
its a place for men to expense their experiences in a thoughtful way without being hung out to dry by there fellow men or the women on here for that matter,
i personally don't think the negative is all that different between the sexes because feeling are not sex dependent at the end of the day we all have them ,
Exactly so why make it a women v men thing!"
i haven't I've answered your questions truthfully while trying to give my fellow men a place to voice there own experiences on sites like this .
there is no them or us here this is purely a post for men to talk freely about there online experiences and whether at the end of the day its a positive in the long run or a negative
many men wont feel comfortable talking about any negatives if they think they will be judged for doing so by those who read this post I'm trying to say hay its ok I'm not going to judge you ether way for sharing your experiences in here . |
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies.
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?...
Yeah,us women like a good moan as you know"
I've got 1 new message lurking up there /\ but unsure about reading it now as it's probably another no, can't remember what messages I've been sending this morning, mostly just been spamming on here! |
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here .
That also can be said for women!
yes it can but this post isn't about a women's experience gained from their time of sites like this
its a place for men to expense their experiences in a thoughtful way without being hung out to dry by there fellow men or the women on here for that matter,
i personally don't think the negative is all that different between the sexes because feeling are not sex dependent at the end of the day we all have them ,
Exactly so why make it a women v men thing!
i haven't I've answered your questions truthfully while trying to give my fellow men a place to voice there own experiences on sites like this .
there is no them or us here this is purely a post for men to talk freely about there online experiences and whether at the end of the day its a positive in the long run or a negative
many men wont feel comfortable talking about any negatives if they think they will be judged for doing so by those who read this post I'm trying to say hay its ok I'm not going to judge you ether way for sharing your experiences in here ."
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here .
That also can be said for women!
yes it can but this post isn't about a women's experience gained from their time of sites like this
its a place for men to expense their experiences in a thoughtful way without being hung out to dry by there fellow men or the women on here for that matter,
i personally don't think the negative is all that different between the sexes because feeling are not sex dependent at the end of the day we all have them ,
Exactly so why make it a women v men thing!
i haven't I've answered your questions truthfully while trying to give my fellow men a place to voice there own experiences on sites like this .
there is no them or us here this is purely a post for men to talk freely about there online experiences and whether at the end of the day its a positive in the long run or a negative
many men wont feel comfortable talking about any negatives if they think they will be judged for doing so by those who read this post I'm trying to say hay its ok I'm not going to judge you ether way for sharing your experiences in here ."
Maybe your fellow men need a leader John,a spokesman... |
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies.
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?...
Yeah,us women like a good moan as you know
I've got 1 new message lurking up there /\ but unsure about reading it now as it's probably another no, can't remember what messages I've been sending this morning, mostly just been spamming on here!"
Well he who dares and all that... |
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies.
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?...
Yeah,us women like a good moan as you know"
Alas, tis all too true... But just to be clear, I'm not moaning about it. Okay? |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here .
That also can be said for women!
yes it can but this post isn't about a women's experience gained from their time of sites like this
its a place for men to expense their experiences in a thoughtful way without being hung out to dry by there fellow men or the women on here for that matter,
i personally don't think the negative is all that different between the sexes because feeling are not sex dependent at the end of the day we all have them ,
Exactly so why make it a women v men thing!
i haven't I've answered your questions truthfully while trying to give my fellow men a place to voice there own experiences on sites like this .
there is no them or us here this is purely a post for men to talk freely about there online experiences and whether at the end of the day its a positive in the long run or a negative
many men wont feel comfortable talking about any negatives if they think they will be judged for doing so by those who read this post I'm trying to say hay its ok I'm not going to judge you ether way for sharing your experiences in here .
Do you think your fellow men are bothered whether you personally judge them or not? "
its not a question of whether I personally judge them or not its about saying hay its ok to talk about stuff that's negatively effecting you about site life instead of bottling it all up inside .
the same attitude should be applied in every aspect of daily life .
sadly society in general does a poor job of encouraging men to talk about there emotional experiences
the most common saying on fab when dealing with men venting is man up after all not are you ok do you want a coffee and a chat .
fab reflecting real life yes and no because as a man who has worked with mainly men all my life i can honestly say I've never heard men say that to one of there own going through a hard time .
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Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?...
Yeah,us women like a good moan as you know
Alas, tis all too true... But just to be clear, I'm not moaning about it. Okay? "
Moan away we women are used to hearing you men moan about how hard done to you are from us women. Did that make sense |
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Moan away we women are used to hearing you men moan about how hard done to you are from us women. Did that make sense "
How hard done by you are makes more sense x |
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies.
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?...
Yeah,us women like a good moan as you know
I've got 1 new message lurking up there /\ but unsure about reading it now as it's probably another no, can't remember what messages I've been sending this morning, mostly just been spamming on here!
Well he who dares and all that..."
Good things come to those who wait, think it's first time I've had 2 messages (was on here briefly before) except when I changed username! I'm going in |
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies.
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?...
Yeah,us women like a good moan as you know
Alas, tis all too true... But just to be clear, I'm not moaning about it. Okay?
Moan away we women are used to hearing you men moan about how hard done to you are from us women. Did that make sense "
A sweeping generalisation or two too? I'm afraid I don't partake of the moaning on here though.
I must have been incredibly lucky to have had a mostly positive experience so far |
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"It's been a mixed bag for me, and can be quite demeaning at times; feeling like an individual sperm swimming around in a sample of ejaculate, alongside the millions of other sperm, all just looking for that lonesome egg......
Fab is full of peaks and troughs, bit like a rollercoaster, and currently I'm in a trough
your words will ring true for a lot of men on here and I've heard a very similar analogy before from guys who choose to be here .
That also can be said for women!
yes it can but this post isn't about a women's experience gained from their time of sites like this
its a place for men to expense their experiences in a thoughtful way without being hung out to dry by there fellow men or the women on here for that matter,
i personally don't think the negative is all that different between the sexes because feeling are not sex dependent at the end of the day we all have them ,
Exactly so why make it a women v men thing!
i haven't I've answered your questions truthfully while trying to give my fellow men a place to voice there own experiences on sites like this .
there is no them or us here this is purely a post for men to talk freely about there online experiences and whether at the end of the day its a positive in the long run or a negative
many men wont feel comfortable talking about any negatives if they think they will be judged for doing so by those who read this post I'm trying to say hay its ok I'm not going to judge you ether way for sharing your experiences in here .
Do you think your fellow men are bothered whether you personally judge them or not?
its not a question of whether I personally judge them or not its about saying hay its ok to talk about stuff that's negatively effecting you about site life instead of bottling it all up inside .
the same attitude should be applied in every aspect of daily life .
sadly society in general does a poor job of encouraging men to talk about there emotional experiences
the most common saying on fab when dealing with men venting is man up after all not are you ok do you want a coffee and a chat .
fab reflecting real life yes and no because as a man who has worked with mainly men all my life i can honestly say I've never heard men say that to one of there own going through a hard time .
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I agree that men should be encouraged to talk more about how they feel, and I've had some very deep, personal conversations with men on this site. It's not all about sex on here for me, I like to get to know the real person behind the keyboard and by just talking to them, you realise most men are lovely.
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"I think an absoloute positive. It just makes the workd of fab more better. I think it makes a person more confident aswell.
interesting you see it that way but if that's the case why do we see so many posts by guys that clearly tell a different story from the one you are putting forward .
As ladies can comment, I'll answer that one. It's simple.
The reason being, many guys approaches!
Having chatted with James, I can say he is one of the good guys, polite, respectful, cheeky without being overtly crude.
That is always going to be a winner
the post isn't really about success rate its about whether the whole package ends up being a positive reinforcing of a guys life or a negative influence in the long term .
I wasn't referring to success rate.
If a man sends a certain type of message, he's going to get a knock back, therefore he's going to have a negative opinion.
If a guy sends, a good well written message, he's more likely to recieve a good response, therefore he'll have a positive response.
That was my reference to being a winner "
Thank you Ms Phoenix. I dont think its anything to do with a success rate. I just think some men come on here expecting woman to be up for pretty much anything, without men putting a bit of effort in. For me i do prefer friendship and connections above everything else. Then hopefully cheeky little flirt with a meet. Yes men will get knock back but does'nt that make them more determined!! Get a grip guys are we men or mice!!! |
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"We may have more men to choose from,but we still have to find the decent men in amongst the women hating,whoring treating,moaning negative minnies.
Hang on... are you moaning negatively about having to sort amongst the moaning negative fellas on here?...
Yeah,us women like a good moan as you know
Alas, tis all too true... But just to be clear, I'm not moaning about it. Okay?
Moan away we women are used to hearing you men moan about how hard done to you are from us women. Did that make sense
A sweeping generalisation or two too? I'm afraid I don't partake of the moaning on here though.
I must have been incredibly lucky to have had a mostly positive experience so far "
Well positivity breds positivity and all that... |
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Well positivity breds positivity and all that..."
I try my utmost best to be positive when sending my messages but it seems as though I must be the exception to this then. |
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By *eesideMan
over a year ago
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Bit of both
The forum is positive its funny most days
But the lak of meets is negative and sum times leeves you wondering y you shood even bother trying wen you no you will Fale anyway...... |
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"I will borrow this line from a certain lady on here;
"I've reached the conclusion that this place can actively make having sex the furthest thing on my mind."
Amen"
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"I will borrow this line from a certain lady on here;
"I've reached the conclusion that this place can actively make having sex the furthest thing on my mind."
Amen"
Spookily, I've messaged a woman this morning who has this line in her profile |
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Both positive and negative
Negatives there seems to be a lot of couple profiles "guy needed to service partner " however it just seems to beca guy getting his jollies off on what he'd like you to do without her knowledge and just want to message for ever and a day
Positive the meets i have had have been 1st rate |
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Overall it has been positive. I've met some great people, had some mind blowing experiences and tried things that I'd never ever have dreamed of in the vanilla world.
I have had a few catfish moments - people using very old photos, ones which clearly weren't them. Men pretending to be a mf couple with the imaginary wife who is out or running late and then "can't make it"
did also have a regular thing with a very attractive girl who caused a bit of a storm in my life with my former employers
Issues aside, lessons learned (and not to be repeated) the experience has been pretty good. I love fab |
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In the 4 months I've been here it's very positive.
I learnt quickly where I was falling short in places.
I get out what i put in and it's opened up a whole new social side to my naughtyness. |
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In the 'real world', I have 2 successful businesses and I am a race car driver. Meeting women has never been a problem - however the types of women I was meeting (perhaps due to my circle) were all very vanilla and I was unable to find the type of stimulation I desired - so I joined fab.
My experience of Fab has been negative for multiple reasons; most women have multiple options therefore differentiating yourself is almost impossible. Women do react to money - my profile shows nothing of my day to day lifestyle, however the women that I meet in the real world can see this and I now believe that my real world success (with women) is only because of my perceived wealth. Finally to be a brown (Asian) lad is tantamount to leprosy on Fab. Overall being on Fab has reinforced some of the negative sterotypes I had tried to avoid.
The only reason why I stay here is for the forums - I find many of the people here to be very brave in their pursuit of Kinks and I enjoy the openness of the community |
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By *lceeWoman
over a year ago
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It's interesting reading this - with a couple of exceptions, it seems to be overwhelmingly positive. Even the constant knockbacks and occasional rudeness don't seem to have dimmed many guys' enthusiasm. I love that!
But for those that are having a harder time with the place, if it is an overwhelmingly negative experience for you, maybe this can become the space where you can put these frustrations out there. My other half tried it and it wasn't for him - maybe if he'd have had somewhere to talk to other guys without fear of judgement, he wiuldn't have gone back to Alt.
John, thanks for putting a place together for this, it's really important.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've found the forum to be highly entertaining. That's about it.
I've stopped viewing it as a swinging site (for me anyway), more as an amusing diversion and place to have a perv.
Have had my eyes opened to the amount of 'stray' (straight but occasionally gay) men there are in the UK. |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"In the 'real world', I have 2 successful businesses and I am a race car driver. Meeting women has never been a problem - however the types of women I was meeting (perhaps due to my circle) were all very vanilla and I was unable to find the type of stimulation I desired - so I joined fab.
My experience of Fab has been negative for multiple reasons; most women have multiple options therefore differentiating yourself is almost impossible. Women do react to money - my profile shows nothing of my day to day lifestyle, however the women that I meet in the real world can see this and I now believe that my real world success (with women) is only because of my perceived wealth. Finally to be a brown (Asian) lad is tantamount to leprosy on Fab. Overall being on Fab has reinforced some of the negative sterotypes I had tried to avoid.
The only reason why I stay here is for the forums - I find many of the people here to be very brave in their pursuit of Kinks and I enjoy the openness of the community "
Your experiences are not uncommon fella i have known many a successful man in the real world walk away from the online sex meet world .
Stereotyping and pigeon hoping is a common complaint ive heard to .
Your honesty in this post does you great credit to in my opinion |
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By *andsonjohn OP Man
over a year ago
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"It's interesting reading this - with a couple of exceptions, it seems to be overwhelmingly positive. Even the constant knockbacks and occasional rudeness don't seem to have dimmed many guys' enthusiasm. I love that!
But for those that are having a harder time with the place, if it is an overwhelmingly negative experience for you, maybe this can become the space where you can put these frustrations out there. My other half tried it and it wasn't for him - maybe if he'd have had somewhere to talk to other guys without fear of judgement, he wiuldn't have gone back to Alt.
John, thanks for putting a place together for this, it's really important.
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Thanks I just think there's very little in the way of support for guys on sites like this
so a place where they can say something with out having the usual man up comments thrown at then is my aim with this post . |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Positive in so many ways i have made some really good friends here and continue to do so at the end of the day it works for me so thats all i can ask for |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"On a side note, I've noticed the anti-Asian sentiment on here a few times and it makes me kinda sad. But there's loads of us who don't care at all, promise!"
Your one of the few good eggs Cat! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"In the 'real world', I have 2 successful businesses and I am a race car driver. Meeting women has never been a problem - however the types of women I was meeting (perhaps due to my circle) were all very vanilla and I was unable to find the type of stimulation I desired - so I joined fab.
My experience of Fab has been negative for multiple reasons; most women have multiple options therefore differentiating yourself is almost impossible. Women do react to money - my profile shows nothing of my day to day lifestyle, however the women that I meet in the real world can see this and I now believe that my real world success (with women) is only because of my perceived wealth. Finally to be a brown (Asian) lad is tantamount to leprosy on Fab. Overall being on Fab has reinforced some of the negative sterotypes I had tried to avoid.
The only reason why I stay here is for the forums - I find many of the people here to be very brave in their pursuit of Kinks and I enjoy the openness of the community
Your experiences are not uncommon fella i have known many a successful man in the real world walk away from the online sex meet world .
Stereotyping and pigeon hoping is a common complaint ive heard to .
Your honesty in this post does you great credit to in my opinion "
Credits all yours sir - it is a very good question |
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