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"I've not been on before so looking forward to it . Did u get anything on cam or video ? X " I can answer that. No they didn't | |||
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"I'm probably going to be in a minority here but no I really don't believe in ghosts. I've never seen or heard anything that couldn't be explained logically. " i have. And I'm as empathetic as a plank | |||
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"I've never seen one but have experienced enough to convince me. I'm still sceptical but not undecided anymore. Llanciah Fawr - nr Merthyr. Well worth a night time visit. " Why do ghosts only seem to work the night shift?? | |||
"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx" Yep ive been to a few and experienced plenty of activity. I also work in a mediums group where we give readings and healing. As for the ghost hunt... just keep an open mind and it may help to sit quiet for 15mins first just to meditate. Hope all goes well | |||
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"I am a big believer and I would love to go on aghodt hunt but non of my friends are into it And it's not a thing I would go on without someone I know " Yep i agree and having done a few where i didnt know anyone it is best because you are more likely to feel relaxed and then something will come through | |||
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"I'm a big believer and had to much experience to not believe and can't wait for tonight been meaning to do it for years but never had the balls to do it xx" nothing to worry about.. you will only pick up when youre relaxed within yourself. let me know what happens after, i would be interested to know | |||
"I'm a big believer and had to much experience to not believe and can't wait for tonight been meaning to do it for years but never had the balls to do it xx nothing to worry about.. you will only pick up when youre relaxed within yourself. let me know what happens after, i would be interested to know" Will do hun x | |||
"I've never seen one but have experienced enough to convince me. I'm still sceptical but not undecided anymore. Llanciah Fawr - nr Merthyr. Well worth a night time visit. Why do ghosts only seem to work the night shift??" No but the tour guides do. Plenty has been seen their during the day but you just walk round on your own.......or not (queue scary groans and a cackle) | |||
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"No I don't believe in ghosts .... My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence.... I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal .... Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts.... " And yet despite the fact there are no, or at least very few, animal ghost sightings, human ghosts are always described wearing clothes. So your trousers can come back to haunt people but your dog can't. | |||
"No I don't believe in ghosts .... My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence.... I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal .... Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts.... " not trying to start a debate or argument but shamans allegedly see and talk to the spirits of animals during there journeys through the spirit realm . | |||
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"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx" Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. | |||
"No I don't believe in ghosts .... My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence.... I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal .... Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts.... And yet despite the fact there are no, or at least very few, animal ghost sightings, human ghosts are always described wearing clothes. So your trousers can come back to haunt people but your dog can't. " Yes that's something that's always troubled me the clothes bit, but then the hulks trousers always grow with him when he gets big and gigantia in monsters v's aliens her dress grew with her also haha yeah no ghosts alowed to be naked you know that's one of the rules at ghost school | |||
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"Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx" Neither believe nor disbelieve really. Nothing supernatural has ever happened to me so until it does I'm ambivalent. | |||
"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. " I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility | |||
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"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility " you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience . now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. | |||
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"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience . now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. " electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of. we are experts at em feild manipulation. we can detect miniute ones. pressure waves again we can detect easily. every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad. as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine | |||
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"thing is there should be billions of ghosts by noy. people say its due to the terrible circumstances they died in whatever old house they haunt etc. The feilds of pashendale for instance should be awash with a litteraly army of ghosts" plenty of the men who thought in the first world war had paranormal experiences that were documented by the commanding officers at the time . jus saying not trying to start anything but there are plenty of accounts of paranormal experiences from the time of the battles taking place all the way up to modern day unexplained sounds and sights on those same battlefields . | |||
"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx" I've done that one. Was rubbish. We thought we heard something... Was a rat. Another one in Sheffield I've done was in the back of a pub. Through the bathroom there was a door to a huge other flat.... Was amazing. Can't say I've ever seen any activity but the building was just incredible. | |||
"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience . now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of. we are experts at em feild manipulation. we can detect miniute ones. pressure waves again we can detect easily. every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad. as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine" strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same . | |||
"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience . now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of. we are experts at em feild manipulation. we can detect miniute ones. pressure waves again we can detect easily. every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad. as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same . " no they're not. or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter. not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size. but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip | |||
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"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience . now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of. we are experts at em feild manipulation. we can detect miniute ones. pressure waves again we can detect easily. every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad. as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same . no they're not. or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter. not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size. but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip " strong magnetic fields don't have the ability to effect the human brain or have the ability to effect our perception wow just wow a quick google search makes a mockery of that statement I invite everyone to do a quick search . | |||
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"No I don't believe in ghosts .... My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence.... I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal .... Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts.... not trying to start a debate or argument but shamans allegedly see and talk to the spirits of animals during there journeys through the spirit realm ." Well you're right about not starting a debate on that topic because in reality as neither of us can prove or disprove our opinions ...... however the onus of proof is firmly the responsibility of those who claim we should believe in something for which they cant provide any tangible evidence.... But I will suggest changing the word Shaman for the more appropriate term Charlatan...... | |||
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"I've never seen one but have experienced enough to convince me. I'm still sceptical but not undecided anymore. Llanciah Fawr - nr Merthyr. Well worth a night time visit. Why do ghosts only seem to work the night shift??" Well what self respecting ghost wants to be seen in tatty Edwardian regalia at a rave.... pasty faced gits. So they wait till they can be undercover of the night. Wooooooooooooooooooo | |||
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"I've seen a ghost as plain day, I was with 2 mates and we all seen it, no other explanation, it was a ghost of an old lady that had lived in a derelict house which hadn't been lived in since the war. When you've seen one it's not a case of believing or not, they just are." If it looked like an old lady. It was an old lady. | |||
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"I remember being in bed just dozing off and my bed sank I looked round and no one was there scared the crap out of me " You need a new bed that's tell you | |||
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"I've seen a ghost as plain day, I was with 2 mates and we all seen it, no other explanation, it was a ghost of an old lady that had lived in a derelict house which hadn't been lived in since the war. When you've seen one it's not a case of believing or not, they just are. If it looked like an old lady. It was an old lady." But it wasn't tho, it was a ghost, I'd have tell the whole story. When I met my wife years later I started to tell her the story, she stopped in my tracks and then told me the same story about the same ghost in the same old house. Like I say I know it was a ghost because I was there, I really don't care if you believe it to be honest, I'm not here to convince you. | |||
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"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience . now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of. we are experts at em feild manipulation. we can detect miniute ones. pressure waves again we can detect easily. every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad. as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same . no they're not. or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter. not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size. but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip strong magnetic fields don't have the ability to effect the human brain or have the ability to effect our perception wow just wow a quick google search makes a mockery of that statement I invite everyone to do a quick search . " please do. Google for me brings up some bunk from "spiritualist sites" and qual health sites but that's it. why do the incredibly strong magnetic feilds of an mri not affect brains? I've stood next to an NMR machime that produces such strong magnetic feilds they had to build the building out of alluminium. I felt no effect on my brain. if you can present any legitimate research that magnetic feilds can affect the brain. then post it. but any such feild generated by a ghost would mean that they would be proved beyond all doubt by now. in visible terms what your describing is ghosts lighting up like a 10 million watt bulb. | |||
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"thing is there should be billions of ghosts by noy. people say its due to the terrible circumstances they died in whatever old house they haunt etc. The feilds of pashendale for instance should be awash with a litteraly army of ghosts plenty of the men who thought in the first world war had paranormal experiences that were documented by the commanding officers at the time . jus saying not trying to start anything but there are plenty of accounts of paranormal experiences from the time of the battles taking place all the way up to modern day unexplained sounds and sights on those same battlefields . " Sleep deprived, shell shocked, traumatised, I would be seeing all kinds of crazy shit too! | |||
"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience . now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of. we are experts at em feild manipulation. we can detect miniute ones. pressure waves again we can detect easily. every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad. as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same . no they're not. or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter. not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size. but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip strong magnetic fields don't have the ability to effect the human brain or have the ability to effect our perception wow just wow a quick google search makes a mockery of that statement I invite everyone to do a quick search . please do. Google for me brings up some bunk from "spiritualist sites" and qual health sites but that's it. why do the incredibly strong magnetic feilds of an mri not affect brains? I've stood next to an NMR machime that produces such strong magnetic feilds they had to build the building out of alluminium. I felt no effect on my brain. if you can present any legitimate research that magnetic feilds can affect the brain. then post it. but any such feild generated by a ghost would mean that they would be proved beyond all doubt by now. in visible terms what your describing is ghosts lighting up like a 10 million watt bulb. " I never said ghosts use magnetic fields I said electro magnetic fields could be one explanation as to why people perceive a paranormal event in other words ghosts are not real its just a electro magnetic field effect human perception someone's state of consciousness. just like shamans use drugs to enter into a altered mind state and perceive the world differently as a result . You are working off the assumption ghost are real I'm working of the assumption that something is effecting human consciousness causing a hallucinogenic effect . Because having spoken to many people who have had a paranormal experience of some sort I can assure you to them it is very real and them grounds instead of dismissing such events one should look for a possible cause . I am nether a believer or disbeliever I have experienced strange feeling and events but as for the cause of those events .i am as clueless as the next man . But my experiences do not make me a believer past the belief that something happened to cause me to perceive or feel reality differently. | |||
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"Ever wondered why any of these ghosts hunters never find any ghosts ? pffffft..... " well i have seen them and i no what i saw to | |||
"Ever wondered why any of these ghosts hunters never find any ghosts ? pffffft..... well i have seen them and i no what i saw to " What did you see ? | |||
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"What came first ghosts or people ? Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that ..... " Genesis 1 verse 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. | |||
"What came first ghosts or people ? Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that ..... Genesis 1 verse 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters." So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?..... Do they reject evolution ? Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim.... Am meringue,,,,, | |||
"What came first ghosts or people ? Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that ..... Genesis 1 verse 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?..... Do they reject evolution ? Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim.... Am meringue,,,,, " Dunno. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your post | |||
"What came first ghosts or people ? Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that ..... Genesis 1 verse 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?..... Do they reject evolution ? Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim.... Am meringue,,,,, Dunno. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your post " I wonder if that means Atheists cant believe in ghosts ...... Maybe an Ghost believing Atheist could explain... | |||
"What came first ghosts or people ? Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that ..... Genesis 1 verse 2 The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters. So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?..... Do they reject evolution ? Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim.... Am meringue,,,,, Dunno. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your post I wonder if that means Atheists cant believe in ghosts ...... Maybe an Ghost believing Atheist could explain... " I have noticed that most people who believe ghosts are dead people walking the earth believe in God too. I believe in ghosts but I don't think they're dead people. | |||
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"I think it's a sign of human arrogance to encounter something that can't be explained in an infinite universe and immediately assume that is your uncle Barry come back to visit you. Seeing figures or hearing things is essentially your mind trying to create meaning out of meaningless data. The same way people see faces in clouds or Jesus in toast. " Hey..... stop it.... I'm trying to flog that slice of toast on ebay and the bidding is heating up.... | |||
"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real " Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x For a brain to create an image it needs A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light Or A production of light Ghost is luminescent Or An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human . However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct Same concepts go for both sound and scent I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives | |||
"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x For a brain to create an image it needs A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light Or A production of light Ghost is luminescent Or An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human . However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct Same concepts go for both sound and scent I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives " That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me. | |||
"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x For a brain to create an image it needs A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light Or A production of light Ghost is luminescent Or An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human . However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct Same concepts go for both sound and scent I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me. " Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being fooled If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet. Long story short If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology | |||
"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x For a brain to create an image it needs A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light Or A production of light Ghost is luminescent Or An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human . However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct Same concepts go for both sound and scent I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me. Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being fooled If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet. Long story short If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology " It was an old woman mate staring out of a window 3 feet from us out of an empty house that we had just been in and had been derelict since the war. It wasn't see thru or a vague image, it looked like an actual old woman. 3 brains sat at different angles to the window wouldn't produce the same image. You believe what you choose to, I know what I saw. | |||
"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x For a brain to create an image it needs A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light Or A production of light Ghost is luminescent Or An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human . However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct Same concepts go for both sound and scent I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me. Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being fooled If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet. Long story short If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology It was an old woman mate staring out of a window 3 feet from us out of an empty house that we had just been in and had been derelict since the war. It wasn't see thru or a vague image, it looked like an actual old woman. 3 brains sat at different angles to the window wouldn't produce the same image. You believe what you choose to, I know what I saw." Can I ask.. What made you jump to the conclusion "Aaah a ghost!" rather than "oh there's an old woman wandered in there, same as we did"? Genuinely curious | |||
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"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x For a brain to create an image it needs A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light Or A production of light Ghost is luminescent Or An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human . However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct Same concepts go for both sound and scent I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me. Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being fooled If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet. Long story short If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology It was an old woman mate staring out of a window 3 feet from us out of an empty house that we had just been in and had been derelict since the war. It wasn't see thru or a vague image, it looked like an actual old woman. 3 brains sat at different angles to the window wouldn't produce the same image. You believe what you choose to, I know what I saw. Can I ask.. What made you jump to the conclusion "Aaah a ghost!" rather than "oh there's an old woman wandered in there, same as we did"? Genuinely curious" If you knew the house you'd know the answer. The house had been derelict since the war, the roof had collapsed, the stairs had collapsed, it was overgrown with brambles, the footpath to it from the road was 6ft high with brambles. The only access to it was by climbing the fence from a school field where I used to knock about. Me and two mates had just been inside looking around at old stuff that had been left in there, there is no way on earth anybody was in that house. When we left we were sitting in the fence a few feet from the door when an old woman appeared in the window and was just there, motionless. When I met my wife years later, she had attended the school where the house was just over the fence. I started to tell her the story when she stopped me and then told me the exact same thing that she and her mates saw as kids in the school. I just know it was a ghost, I was there and believe me, there was no old lady in that house. | |||
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"I don't think it's likely that the incredibly complex brain created mind and personality of someone can survive once they are physically dead and decomposed." If the brain manufactures the mind this would suggest the thought "did I leave the kettle on?" is either some kind of molecule or series of electrical impulses. Either way it seems likely that such a molecule or set of impulses might have been created by sheer accident by other phenomenon out there in the universe. As such, the thought "did I leave the kettle on?" might be floating past neptune as we speak. If, instead, the brain merely receives the mind and doesn't manufacture it and the mind is something like a field or force... then clearly that field or force would persist after death | |||
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"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx" not sure but would like to be there right now lol. | |||
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"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting." The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that. | |||
"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting. The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that. " I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations | |||
"The enfield haunting. I remember it on strange but true. Scared the living daylights out of me!" That seemed like a hoax to me - desperate kids | |||
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"Absolute baloney! " Until you experience it you will think like this. | |||
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"I don't think it's likely that the incredibly complex brain created mind and personality of someone can survive once they are physically dead and decomposed. The concept of anything else taking the form of a person is equally not likely Imo. What is more likely is that a living persons mind can create the perception of a ghost - this seems the most probable cause of ghosts. We would probably need to review and revise many scientific principles and theories should people continue to exist consciously and with some physically perceivable form once they have departed." we wouldn't need to rewrite science due to the fact science says energy never dies it just changes form continuously . as consciousness is energy in the brain its not beyond the realms of possibility that consciousness survives after death in a changed state some how . | |||
"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting. The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that. I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations " Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one. | |||
"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting. The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that. I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one. " At what point is you explaining a vision you have experienced as a non plausible incarnation of a dead person not made up or fanciful I'd suggest ALL possible and plausible explanations however elaborate or difficult are infinity more worthy of investigating than it really being the manifestation of something once living The fact is you really DON'T know what your brain experienced you don't have the data to KNOW you have seen something YOU cannot rationalise and have randomly without basis attributed it to a human invented concept That is the FACT Note this fact does not suggest the vision does not seem 100 percent real | |||
"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting. The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that. I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one. At what point is you explaining a vision you have experienced as a non plausible incarnation of a dead person not made up or fanciful I'd suggest ALL possible and plausible explanations however elaborate or difficult are infinity more worthy of investigating than it really being the manifestation of something once living The fact is you really DON'T know what your brain experienced you don't have the data to KNOW you have seen something YOU cannot rationalise and have randomly without basis attributed it to a human invented concept That is the FACT Note this fact does not suggest the vision does not seem 100 percent real" I'll tell you a fact, me and two friends saw an old woman looking out of a window, there was no woman in the house, we saw her clear as day. That is the fact. People can talk as much shit as they like to explain it away, I don't really care, I'm just saying what I saw and that's that. | |||
"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting. The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that. I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one. At what point is you explaining a vision you have experienced as a non plausible incarnation of a dead person not made up or fanciful I'd suggest ALL possible and plausible explanations however elaborate or difficult are infinity more worthy of investigating than it really being the manifestation of something once living The fact is you really DON'T know what your brain experienced you don't have the data to KNOW you have seen something YOU cannot rationalise and have randomly without basis attributed it to a human invented concept That is the FACT Note this fact does not suggest the vision does not seem 100 percent real I'll tell you a fact, me and two friends saw an old woman looking out of a window, there was no woman in the house, we saw her clear as day. That is the fact. People can talk as much shit as they like to explain it away, I don't really care, I'm just saying what I saw and that's that. " Yes I completely know your brains have experienced something so convincing you declare it to be an old lady ? Did not suggest you had not ? To then try and explain your experience as no longer living is a stab in the dark made up explanation fuelled by thousands of years of human imagination being twisted into wild non plausible stories xxx | |||
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"There's been folklore about ghosts throughout human history. If they existed we would have had proper scientific proof by now. Hence it's as certain as anything can be that ghosts don't exist. " we still cant explain many things in science or the world around us. Ghosts is just another one of those things. I lived in a documented haunted house growing up. It was not anyones imagination and without telling others they often felt or saw the same things.. And as for ghost amimals. There are many reports and I often fall over one of my deceased cats.. I see him and feel him jump on the bed. Only to look a second later and remember hes no longer with us. We also hear his calling and as he was part savannah his cry is distinct and we dont have any other cats that cry like that. But I was brought up with supernatural being the norm... so there we go. Cali | |||
"There's been folklore about ghosts throughout human history. If they existed we would have had proper scientific proof by now. Hence it's as certain as anything can be that ghosts don't exist. we still cant explain many things in science or the world around us. Ghosts is just another one of those things. I lived in a documented haunted house growing up. It was not anyones imagination and without telling others they often felt or saw the same things.. And as for ghost amimals. There are many reports and I often fall over one of my deceased cats.. I see him and feel him jump on the bed. Only to look a second later and remember hes no longer with us. We also hear his calling and as he was part savannah his cry is distinct and we dont have any other cats that cry like that. But I was brought up with supernatural being the norm... so there we go. Cali" exactly this x | |||
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"Before the invention of Facebook and snapchat my meets thought I was a ghost..... I was gone before they woke in the morning and they never seen me again... ( this was when I was 15) " Eek did you feel that... No wait it was nothing just a breeze | |||
"Before the invention of Facebook and snapchat my meets thought I was a ghost..... I was gone before they woke in the morning and they never seen me again... ( this was when I was 15) Eek did you feel that... No wait it was nothing just a breeze " I'm swayze baby | |||
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"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm" you might want to rephrase that lol. | |||
"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm you might want to rephrase that lol." Haha | |||
"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm you might want to rephrase that lol." I think it sums this thread up perfectly. He's never been around one... so he doesn't believe it exists | |||
"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm you might want to rephrase that lol. I think it sums this thread up perfectly. He's never been around one... so he doesn't believe it exists " You mean it's real? Get the f&&ok out of here ?? | |||
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"I'm probably going to be in a minority here but no I really don't believe in ghosts. I've never seen or heard anything that couldn't be explained logically. " Walking through a graveyard late one night Two dead men got up to fight Back to back they faced each other Drew their swords and shot each other Explain that then! | |||
"I'm probably going to be in a minority here but no I really don't believe in ghosts. I've never seen or heard anything that couldn't be explained logically. Walking through a graveyard late one night Two dead men got up to fight Back to back they faced each other Drew their swords and shot each other Explain that then! " A deaf policeman heard their noise And came and killed those two dead boys. | |||
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"....would love to experience something otherworldly " Try D M T to get you there Good luck in your 10 mins or so | |||
"....would love to experience something otherworldly Try D M T to get you there Good luck in your 10 mins or so " Been there done that dude haha didn't see ghosts tho | |||
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"What accepted truths about the world would be completely wrong, if there is something to it? " the fundamentals of all physics. laws of thermodynamics, conservation of energy, gravity etc. | |||