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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

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By *essandpatCouple  over a year ago

chester

Stanley palace in Chester iv been to was a good experience would do it again to x

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I've not been on before so looking forward to it . Did u get anything on cam or video ? X

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By *al2001Man  over a year ago

kildare


"I've not been on before so looking forward to it . Did u get anything on cam or video ? X "

I can answer that. No they didn't

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By *ackDMissMorganCouple  over a year ago

Halifax

I believe yes,theres so much more out there then we know about i think.

Miss

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By *essandpatCouple  over a year ago

chester

A few bit really but they have all the stuff like motions detectors to temperature detectors, when I had gone I called out to children that lived there and it went off making lots of noise so that was intense experience x

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By *izzy RascallMan  over a year ago

Cardiff

I've never seen one but have experienced enough to convince me.

I'm still sceptical but not undecided anymore.

Llanciah Fawr - nr Merthyr. Well worth a night time visit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Get a ghost phone or ghost box on the go. But one made out of an analogue radio or scanner not a digital one or a silly app.

Fantastic experience to use one in a very 'active' area.

Depending on if you hold the opinion ghosts are ethereal or just recordings held in rock, it works for either theory.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman  over a year ago
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My Own Little World

I think it is possible.

BUT I am hugely sceptical about these ghost hunting evenings, I'm sure they employ someone to slam a door, throw a stone or scream and say I just saw something. After all it is a business and they want people to come back or tell others how scary it was to drum up paying punters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Aww that will be great. Im a big believer and would love to do a legit ghost hunt. I hope you have a good experience

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate

I'm probably going to be in a minority here but no I really don't believe in ghosts. I've never seen or heard anything that couldn't be explained logically.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm probably going to be in a minority here but no I really don't believe in ghosts. I've never seen or heard anything that couldn't be explained logically. "

i have. And I'm as empathetic as a plank

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I did see a remote control fly off a mantle piece. And it flew!! I was then hooked!

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By *lueWonderMan  over a year ago

Preston.....ish

I'm a believer. I have experienced enough activity to know that we are not alone. Have had things happen at two places of work and also at home.

I would love to go on a ghost hunt too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I tried a ouiji board also as a kid that worked. To this day tho my 2 mates thought it were me moving it. It was a scary experience at the time

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By *ichaelangelaCouple  over a year ago

notts


"I've never seen one but have experienced enough to convince me.

I'm still sceptical but not undecided anymore.

Llanciah Fawr - nr Merthyr. Well worth a night time visit.

"

Why do ghosts only seem to work the night shift??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx"

Yep ive been to a few and experienced plenty of activity. I also work in a mediums group where we give readings and healing. As for the ghost hunt... just keep an open mind and it may help to sit quiet for 15mins first just to meditate. Hope all goes well

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've seen a ghost as plain day, I was with 2 mates and we all seen it, no other explanation, it was a ghost of an old lady that had lived in a derelict house which hadn't been lived in since the war. When you've seen one it's not a case of believing or not, they just are.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am a big believer and I would love to go on aghodt hunt but non of my friends are into it

And it's not a thing I would go on without someone I know

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am a big believer and I would love to go on aghodt hunt but non of my friends are into it

And it's not a thing I would go on without someone I know "

Yep i agree and having done a few where i didnt know anyone it is best because you are more likely to feel relaxed and then something will come through

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

nope if ghosts existed we'd have made a ghost powered power plant by now.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

'I want to believe...'

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I'm a big believer and had to much experience to not believe and can't wait for tonight been meaning to do it for years but never had the balls to do it xx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm a big believer and had to much experience to not believe and can't wait for tonight been meaning to do it for years but never had the balls to do it xx"

nothing to worry about.. you will only pick up when youre relaxed within yourself. let me know what happens after, i would be interested to know

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'm a big believer and had to much experience to not believe and can't wait for tonight been meaning to do it for years but never had the balls to do it xx

nothing to worry about.. you will only pick up when youre relaxed within yourself. let me know what happens after, i would be interested to know"

Will do hun x

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By *izzy RascallMan  over a year ago

Cardiff


"I've never seen one but have experienced enough to convince me.

I'm still sceptical but not undecided anymore.

Llanciah Fawr - nr Merthyr. Well worth a night time visit.

Why do ghosts only seem to work the night shift??"

No but the tour guides do.

Plenty has been seen their during the day but you just walk round on your own.......or not (queue scary groans and a cackle)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not only do I not believe, it's the belief that death will be the definitive end that gives me the will to get out of bed most days.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When I first came to Devon..people told me of many different areas of Devon with many different ghosts, from women, to old fishermen, to groups of people or big hairy hands of Dartmoor.

Having heard stories of places and looking into it all. I decided to go check some of these places out at times reported most frequently. I could have gotten tech and gone all emf etc but I just went all these places with an open mind and without the negative energy of cell phones or unshielded devices, that as far as I understand energy would effect balance.

I spent much time at one location between hours of 11.25pm and 12.25am as between these times a ghost in form of a fisherman had been seen, documented in old Devon papers going way back, plus one person whom told me about it. Was in 50s yet had been told as a child and claims to have seen the ghost but once in 40 odd years, but would only show himself to me of the sea, however some ones elses opinion was would reveal himself to anyone and had grown up having seen the ghost twice.

I've never seen a ghost that I know of. I remain open minded. Despite never having seen one, yet been to lots of locations.. others have seen.

Actually few years ago now. I seen a tour at this castle. It cost £95 for a couple for the evening event. I had look at castle during day. Cost like loads to get in anyway. So me n sum fellow ghost hunters. Went on our own.. went down the dungeons etc with no torches, feeling way down walls etc no other public apart from us all scaring each other and grabbing hold of one another in a sorta fright laughing... we couldn't see anything. Ha a dark room + some more dark added. We never seen nor felt no ghosts. We did have an adventure scaling the walls and absailing in which kinda made it all like India Jones haha ghost hunters but never seen nofin...so glad never forked out on all those $'s for summit commercial and about making money rather than a chance of seeing a ghost

If youve seen one then I actually wish I had, I remain open about the energy manifestating itself as a ghost

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm

I've been on a few tours there good fun and I nice evening out with a difference .

I've also been lucky enough to accompany paranormal investigators investigating strange unexplained phenomena a couple of times .

am I a believer lets just say I have a open mind when it comes to such things .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yup I do x

Cali

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

No I don't believe in ghosts ....

My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence....

I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously

There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal ....

Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I don't believe in ghosts ....

My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence....

I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously

There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal ....

Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts....

"

And yet despite the fact there are no, or at least very few, animal ghost sightings, human ghosts are always described wearing clothes. So your trousers can come back to haunt people but your dog can't.

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"No I don't believe in ghosts ....

My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence....

I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously

There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal ....

Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts....

"

not trying to start a debate or argument but shamans allegedly see and talk to the spirits of animals during there journeys through the spirit realm .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We both believe was at clophill an few years back and see some weird stuff

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx"

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I don't believe in ghosts ....

My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence....

I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously

There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal ....

Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts....

And yet despite the fact there are no, or at least very few, animal ghost sightings, human ghosts are always described wearing clothes. So your trousers can come back to haunt people but your dog can't. "

Yes that's something that's always troubled me the clothes bit, but then the hulks trousers always grow with him when he gets big and gigantia in monsters v's aliens her dress grew with her also haha yeah no ghosts alowed to be naked you know that's one of the rules at ghost school

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nope

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By *ty31Man  over a year ago

NW London


"Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx"

Neither believe nor disbelieve really. Nothing supernatural has ever happened to me so until it does I'm ambivalent.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute. "

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

thing is there should be billions of ghosts by noy.

people say its due to the terrible circumstances they died in whatever old house they haunt etc.

The feilds of pashendale for instance should be awash with a litteraly army of ghosts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'll remain sceptical until a real one gives me the willies one day

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

"

you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience .

now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation.

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By *ob198XaMan  over a year ago

teleford

There are ghosts but they only exist in the mind of the observer. Human brains are very open to suggestive influences.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience .

now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation. "

electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of.

we are experts at em feild manipulation.

we can detect miniute ones.

pressure waves again we can detect easily.

every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad.

as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are plenty of personal opinions with this one.. certainly makes an interesting read.

My view is that we cant explain everything and we have only learnt as humans to acknowledge the physical with what we can see, touch, hear or taste... all with our senses really.

Whatever your personal views are, they are exactly that and dont need anyone to explain themselves or to prove anything.

We are all challenged by life everyday but why not spend time 'feeling' and 'trusting' without question.... it certainly makes me feel at peace anyway.

love to you all

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"thing is there should be billions of ghosts by noy.

people say its due to the terrible circumstances they died in whatever old house they haunt etc.

The feilds of pashendale for instance should be awash with a litteraly army of ghosts"

plenty of the men who thought in the first world war had paranormal experiences that were documented by the commanding officers at the time .

jus saying not trying to start anything but there are plenty of accounts of paranormal experiences from the time of the battles taking place all the way up to modern day unexplained sounds and sights on those same battlefields .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx"

I've done that one. Was rubbish. We thought we heard something... Was a rat.

Another one in Sheffield I've done was in the back of a pub. Through the bathroom there was a door to a huge other flat.... Was amazing. Can't say I've ever seen any activity but the building was just incredible.

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience .

now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation.

electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of.

we are experts at em feild manipulation.

we can detect miniute ones.

pressure waves again we can detect easily.

every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad.

as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine"

strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience .

now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation.

electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of.

we are experts at em feild manipulation.

we can detect miniute ones.

pressure waves again we can detect easily.

every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad.

as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine

strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same . "

no they're not.

or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter.

not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size.

but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them

hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For me I've never really believed in ghosts.

Over 10 years ago i was at an old house built circa 1300 near the ruins of a castle here in Norfolk. It was in the winter time about 5 pm and i was just locking up as everyone else had left about 30mins prior.

As i passed by the side secondary staircase an almighty loud moan/groan came from upstairs, i didn't hang around in fact i did leg it. The room upstairs did have an unfriendly feeling to it.

I knew what i heard, no wind, no creaking...a load moan. Apart from that never been scared again!

Oh only by some profiled on here.

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience .

now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation.

electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of.

we are experts at em feild manipulation.

we can detect miniute ones.

pressure waves again we can detect easily.

every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad.

as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine

strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same .

no they're not.

or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter.

not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size.

but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them

hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip "

strong magnetic fields don't have the ability to effect the human brain or have the ability to effect our perception wow just wow a quick google search makes a mockery of that statement I invite everyone to do a quick search .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am sceptical about most things, however I am susceptible to lay lines, which the sceptic in me refuses to believe.

I lived in an evil house a long time ago. Things used to routinely "fall" from worktops for no justifiable reason.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"No I don't believe in ghosts ....

My mind is not receptive or susceptible to such fanciful nonsence....

I don't mock those who do believe but really cant take any recount of so called supernatural encounters seriously

There are far to many earthly bound explanations which cover anomalies people choose to romanticise as being paranormal ....

Tell me where are all the cat and dog ghosts the birds and be ghosts the fish and the flies and the siders and the lions and the tiger and the giraffe ghosts not to mention the enormous elephant ghosts....

not trying to start a debate or argument but shamans allegedly see and talk to the spirits of animals during there journeys through the spirit realm ."

Well you're right about not starting a debate on that topic because in reality as neither of us can prove or disprove our opinions ...... however the onus of proof is firmly the responsibility of those who claim we should believe in something for which they cant provide any tangible evidence....

But I will suggest changing the word Shaman for the more appropriate term Charlatan......

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I don't believe in ghosts.

End of.

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By *alandNitaCouple  over a year ago

Scunthorpe

I bet a swingers ghost would really "put the willies up you"..

Cal

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I've never seen one but have experienced enough to convince me.

I'm still sceptical but not undecided anymore.

Llanciah Fawr - nr Merthyr. Well worth a night time visit.

Why do ghosts only seem to work the night shift??"

Well what self respecting ghost wants to be seen in tatty Edwardian regalia at a rave.... pasty faced gits.

So they wait till they can be undercover of the night. Wooooooooooooooooooo

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By *eplicant JoWoman  over a year ago

Sussex countryside

Yes, I believe. Lots of paranormal activity in my house and been on some private ghost hunts.

Have a good time op.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The James Randy (stope giggling) has been offering a million dollars to anyone that can prove the existence of paranormal and psychic abilities/activities.

The price has been unclaimed for many years.

Wonder why?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The enfield haunting. I remember it on strange but true. Scared the living daylights out of me!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"I've seen a ghost as plain day, I was with 2 mates and we all seen it, no other explanation, it was a ghost of an old lady that had lived in a derelict house which hadn't been lived in since the war. When you've seen one it's not a case of believing or not, they just are."

If it looked like an old lady. It was an old lady.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I remember being in bed just dozing off and my bed sank I looked round and no one was there scared the crap out of me

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I remember being in bed just dozing off and my bed sank I looked round and no one was there scared the crap out of me "

You need a new bed that's tell you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes most definitely especially when strange things occur in your house.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've seen a ghost as plain day, I was with 2 mates and we all seen it, no other explanation, it was a ghost of an old lady that had lived in a derelict house which hadn't been lived in since the war. When you've seen one it's not a case of believing or not, they just are.

If it looked like an old lady. It was an old lady."

But it wasn't tho, it was a ghost, I'd have tell the whole story. When I met my wife years later I started to tell her the story, she stopped in my tracks and then told me the same story about the same ghost in the same old house. Like I say I know it was a ghost because I was there, I really don't care if you believe it to be honest, I'm not here to convince you.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If they do exist then why be afraid of them?

You will have thousands of years of ancestors who will protect you from a single ghost, so why be scared?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I believe in ghosts but I haven't seen one. I had a spooky experience after my uncle died years ago though. XXX

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes I believe, have had a few experiences that just cannot be explained as anything else. Yet to go on an organised ghost hunt due to the fact I wouldn't trust that it is not a set up

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience .

now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation.

electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of.

we are experts at em feild manipulation.

we can detect miniute ones.

pressure waves again we can detect easily.

every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad.

as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine

strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same .

no they're not.

or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter.

not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size.

but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them

hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip

strong magnetic fields don't have the ability to effect the human brain or have the ability to effect our perception wow just wow a quick google search makes a mockery of that statement I invite everyone to do a quick search .

"

please do. Google for me brings up some bunk from "spiritualist sites" and qual health sites but that's it.

why do the incredibly strong magnetic feilds of an mri not affect brains?

I've stood next to an NMR machime that produces such strong magnetic feilds they had to build the building out of alluminium.

I felt no effect on my brain.

if you can present any legitimate research that magnetic feilds can affect the brain. then post it.

but any such feild generated by a ghost would mean that they would be proved beyond all doubt by now.

in visible terms what your describing is ghosts lighting up like a 10 million watt bulb.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Love the stories

Was president of the ghost club at primary school to

Would love to go to creepy buildings and have adventured.

But in 100's of years of research there is no evidence of ghosts lol

Just personal accounts

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nope, i don't

(Although i'm organising a Ghosts and Dungeons thing at work right now )

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By *ob198XaMan  over a year ago

teleford


"thing is there should be billions of ghosts by noy.

people say its due to the terrible circumstances they died in whatever old house they haunt etc.

The feilds of pashendale for instance should be awash with a litteraly army of ghosts

plenty of the men who thought in the first world war had paranormal experiences that were documented by the commanding officers at the time .

jus saying not trying to start anything but there are plenty of accounts of paranormal experiences from the time of the battles taking place all the way up to modern day unexplained sounds and sights on those same battlefields . "

Sleep deprived, shell shocked, traumatised, I would be seeing all kinds of crazy shit too!

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx

Yes I am a believer in ghosts. As I am a spiritualist but I don't practice at the minute.

I think there is not one spiritualist who has ever spoken to an ex human

The ghost concept always raises more questions than the short term explanation of an optical or aural illusion

Bearing in mind that the human brain evolved an exceptional talent for making sense of nonsense e.g. cloud pictures and paint butterflies

And to date I've not met a believer who can articulate how they they can differentiate between a reality and an optical illusion because without in-depth diligence that assessment is not possible

So basically just like god concepts , zero credible evidence for any existence and vast numbers of data illustrating why logically and statistically the concept of a dead human manifesting a presence is either not possible or in the millions to one as a plausibility

you do realise nearly all reported paranormal experiences are ether felt or heard seeing something one can not explain is the rarest form of a paranormal experience .

now what is the cause of these experiences is anyone's guess although electro magnetic fields are one possible explanation.

electro magnetic feilds are possibly the least likley explanation you can think of.

we are experts at em feild manipulation.

we can detect miniute ones.

pressure waves again we can detect easily.

every time people try to bring science into the paranormal they fuck it up so bad.

as i said if ghosts made EM feilds was have built a ghost powered perpetual motion machine

strong electromagnetic fields are know to effect the human brain and our perception of reality .some species of birds are believed to be able to detect the earths magnetic field and use changes in it to navigate some fish and whales are suspect to do the same .

no they're not.

or an MRI machine would be called the brain melter.

not to mention the huge power requirements of a powerful EM feild of any size.

but again EM feilds are so easy to detect and monitor if ghosts made them we'd be harnessing them

hell for Barton basement level detection just take a hall probe sensor with you on your next trip

strong magnetic fields don't have the ability to effect the human brain or have the ability to effect our perception wow just wow a quick google search makes a mockery of that statement I invite everyone to do a quick search .

please do. Google for me brings up some bunk from "spiritualist sites" and qual health sites but that's it.

why do the incredibly strong magnetic feilds of an mri not affect brains?

I've stood next to an NMR machime that produces such strong magnetic feilds they had to build the building out of alluminium.

I felt no effect on my brain.

if you can present any legitimate research that magnetic feilds can affect the brain. then post it.

but any such feild generated by a ghost would mean that they would be proved beyond all doubt by now.

in visible terms what your describing is ghosts lighting up like a 10 million watt bulb. "

I never said ghosts use magnetic fields I said electro magnetic fields could be one explanation as to why people perceive a paranormal event in other words ghosts are not real its just a electro magnetic field effect human perception someone's state of consciousness. just like shamans use drugs to enter into a altered mind state and perceive the world differently as a result . You are working off the assumption ghost are real I'm working of the assumption that something is effecting human consciousness causing a hallucinogenic effect . Because having spoken to many people who have had a paranormal experience of some sort I can assure you to them it is very real and them grounds instead of dismissing such events one should look for a possible cause . I am nether a believer or disbeliever I have experienced strange feeling and events but as for the cause of those events .i am as clueless as the next man . But my experiences do not make me a believer past the belief that something happened to cause me to perceive or feel reality differently.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ever wondered why any of these ghosts hunters never find any ghosts ?

pffffft.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ever wondered why any of these ghosts hunters never find any ghosts ?

pffffft..... "

well i have seen them and i no what i saw to

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ever wondered why any of these ghosts hunters never find any ghosts ?

pffffft.....

well i have seen them and i no what i saw to "

What did you see ?

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex

it depends what you think a ghost is

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By *inkyLondonpairCouple  over a year ago

London

There's been folklore about ghosts throughout human history. If they existed we would have had proper scientific proof by now.

Hence it's as certain as anything can be that ghosts don't exist.

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By *uke olovingmanMan  over a year ago

Gravesend

Woooooo

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's hard to beleive until you've experienced it yourself. I used to be very skeptical.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What came first ghosts or people ?

Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that .....

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Woooooo"

Eek

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wish I'd have known. Id have tagged along. Have investigated that place. You want to try abbeydale picture house. That place is so scary

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"What came first ghosts or people ?

Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that ..... "

Genesis 1 verse 2

The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What came first ghosts or people ?

Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that .....

Genesis 1 verse 2

The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters."

So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?.....

Do they reject evolution ?

Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim....

Am meringue,,,,,

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"What came first ghosts or people ?

Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that .....

Genesis 1 verse 2

The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?.....

Do they reject evolution ?

Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim....

Am meringue,,,,, "

Dunno. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your post

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What came first ghosts or people ?

Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that .....

Genesis 1 verse 2

The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?.....

Do they reject evolution ?

Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim....

Am meringue,,,,,

Dunno. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your post "

I wonder if that means Atheists cant believe in ghosts ......

Maybe an Ghost believing Atheist could explain...

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

East Sussex


"What came first ghosts or people ?

Eh ! c'mon believers riddle me that .....

Genesis 1 verse 2

The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.

So does that mean people who believe in ghosts must therefore also believe in creationism ?.....

Do they reject evolution ?

Have they even considered those things are connected and one without the other implodes the plausibility of their claim....

Am meringue,,,,,

Dunno. It was the first thing that came to my mind when I saw your post

I wonder if that means Atheists cant believe in ghosts ......

Maybe an Ghost believing Atheist could explain... "

I have noticed that most people who believe ghosts are dead people walking the earth believe in God too.

I believe in ghosts but I don't think they're dead people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think it's a sign of human arrogance to encounter something that can't be explained in an infinite universe and immediately assume that is your uncle Barry come back to visit you.

Seeing figures or hearing things is essentially your mind trying to create meaning out of meaningless data. The same way people see faces in clouds or Jesus in toast.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think it's a sign of human arrogance to encounter something that can't be explained in an infinite universe and immediately assume that is your uncle Barry come back to visit you.

Seeing figures or hearing things is essentially your mind trying to create meaning out of meaningless data. The same way people see faces in clouds or Jesus in toast. "

Hey..... stop it....

I'm trying to flog that slice of toast on ebay and the bidding is heating up....

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real "

Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x

For a brain to create an image it needs

A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light

Or

A production of light

Ghost is luminescent

Or

An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations

The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain

In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit

Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human .

However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct

Same concepts go for both sound and scent

I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real

Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x

For a brain to create an image it needs

A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light

Or

A production of light

Ghost is luminescent

Or

An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations

The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain

In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit

Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human .

However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct

Same concepts go for both sound and scent

I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives

"

That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real

Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x

For a brain to create an image it needs

A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light

Or

A production of light

Ghost is luminescent

Or

An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations

The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain

In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit

Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human .

However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct

Same concepts go for both sound and scent

I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives

That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me. "

Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being

fooled

If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case

Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality

All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman

I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind

I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet.

Long story short

If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL

IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct

So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes

My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real

Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x

For a brain to create an image it needs

A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light

Or

A production of light

Ghost is luminescent

Or

An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations

The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain

In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit

Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human .

However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct

Same concepts go for both sound and scent

I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives

That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me.

Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being

fooled

If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case

Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality

All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman

I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind

I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet.

Long story short

If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL

IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct

So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes

My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology

"

It was an old woman mate staring out of a window 3 feet from us out of an empty house that we had just been in and had been derelict since the war. It wasn't see thru or a vague image, it looked like an actual old woman. 3 brains sat at different angles to the window wouldn't produce the same image. You believe what you choose to, I know what I saw.

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real

Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x

For a brain to create an image it needs

A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light

Or

A production of light

Ghost is luminescent

Or

An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations

The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain

In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit

Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human .

However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct

Same concepts go for both sound and scent

I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives

That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me.

Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being

fooled

If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case

Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality

All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman

I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind

I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet.

Long story short

If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL

IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct

So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes

My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology

It was an old woman mate staring out of a window 3 feet from us out of an empty house that we had just been in and had been derelict since the war. It wasn't see thru or a vague image, it looked like an actual old woman. 3 brains sat at different angles to the window wouldn't produce the same image. You believe what you choose to, I know what I saw."

Can I ask.. What made you jump to the conclusion "Aaah a ghost!" rather than "oh there's an old woman wandered in there, same as we did"? Genuinely curious

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yep, big believer here, had more paranormal experiences than I care to mention.

Every experience I've tried to rationalise, to the point there is no other explanation, than it being paranormal.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep i do ive seen them realy clear to so i no the are real

Optical illusions are daylight clear and non distinguishable from reality unless you have the privilege of viewing the source or the non logical anomalies x

For a brain to create an image it needs

A reflection of light , thus ghost can reflect light

Or

A production of light

Ghost is luminescent

Or

An image can manifest from the cerebral processes , examples being dreams, imagination , fevered delusions and drug or chemical induced hallucinations

The remnants of the once living thing would somehow need to transmit a signal into a brain and for that signal to articulate the behaviour of the brain

In the first two cases the ghost would have physical attributes , observable by humans and their technology, because we understand light rather well. It is reasonable to suggest that IF there were a method of inducing an image into a brain that came from a dead thing light would NOT be the conduit

Thus that leaves option 3 where the brain is instructed to construct an image which the human will perceive as both REAL in space and looks like a human .

However real option 3 may seem it is always an illusion even if strong magnets do alter perception it's still a construct

Same concepts go for both sound and scent

I doubt not that a human is convinced they have seen something however the wild stretch to conclude the something was once living is non credible from so many perspectives

That doesn't explain how 3 people, as in my case, saw the same old lady looking out of the same window and then my then future wife saw the same thing years earlier when she was in primary school. Ghosts are real mate, I didn't believe it until it happened to me.

Yes it does optical illusion . As I said one cannot tell if the brain is fooling or being

fooled

If what you perceived you all saw, then you SAW light or shadow , this conduit of data is well understood and detectable . As to date no detectable light has been found that illustrates ghosts and if they reflect or produce this simply would not be the case

Option 3 is always a mental construct and one can never be sure of the reality

All you have told me is you have perceived an image of a woman , the image was clearly not clear enough to establish as a real human woman and you have all widely jumped to an wild and implausible conclusion that the image was induced by a no longer living human woman

I doubt not you all experienced an image of an older woman In your brain , and their are thousands of plausible visual and psychological reasons why the perception was an illusion of some kind

I'm observing one as we speak , my car IS in my living room as I stand in front of my house window I can without doubt see my tyres on the carpet.

Long story short

If you see it with your eyes then the ghost would be detectable to ALL

IF one sees it without light then it is always a mental construct

So I guess you are convinced your eyes saw the image. So your ghost either makes air reflective , manifests reflective matter then removes it, makes air luminous , or generates matter that emits light and then it vanishes

My money would be on the millions of reams of data that explain how the mind perceives light , optics, illusions , magic , and psychology

It was an old woman mate staring out of a window 3 feet from us out of an empty house that we had just been in and had been derelict since the war. It wasn't see thru or a vague image, it looked like an actual old woman. 3 brains sat at different angles to the window wouldn't produce the same image. You believe what you choose to, I know what I saw.

Can I ask.. What made you jump to the conclusion "Aaah a ghost!" rather than "oh there's an old woman wandered in there, same as we did"? Genuinely curious"

If you knew the house you'd know the answer. The house had been derelict since the war, the roof had collapsed, the stairs had collapsed, it was overgrown with brambles, the footpath to it from the road was 6ft high with brambles. The only access to it was by climbing the fence from a school field where I used to knock about. Me and two mates had just been inside looking around at old stuff that had been left in there, there is no way on earth anybody was in that house. When we left we were sitting in the fence a few feet from the door when an old woman appeared in the window and was just there, motionless. When I met my wife years later, she had attended the school where the house was just over the fence. I started to tell her the story when she stopped me and then told me the exact same thing that she and her mates saw as kids in the school. I just know it was a ghost, I was there and believe me, there was no old lady in that house.

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By *inky-MinxWoman  over a year ago

Grantham

I'm yet to be convinced they don't exist

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By *ak777Man  over a year ago

shaw

had one in my house 30 years ago frightening sold the house soon after .please don.t give me grief ,until you know and have experience it .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a very rational person. But fortunately/unfortunately (depending on how you look at it) I've had lots of truly weird experiences that have caused me to question things more deeply than wysiwyg.

I don't believe in ghosts because the whole idea of spirit is that it's non physical. To appear to us ghosts would need to manipulate atoms etc so as to physically appear. That's just victorian spiritualist nonsense which occultists at the time tried desperately to stamp out.

Unfortunately, however, I've most certainly experienced ghosts... which totally messes up my reasoning. Once something walked through me, I turned ice cold and dizzy, then it walked out of me and I was totally fine again. I immediately knew it was a ghost and that's one of the things about these kinds of experiences... they aren't just experiential. They leave you with knowledge after you didn't have before. Another time I was going to bed when I was confronted by the vision of a small girl. It wasn't physical. It was a mental image. The odd thing was why it suddenly appeared, why it was so bold, and why it felt different from other mental images so that it caused me to stop in my tracks. Again, I just knew this was a girl who'd lived in that house before and the knowledge of that was a core part of the experience. I also used to walk in a park near there where two small girls would come and take my hands and walk with me. As I've tried to convey, it is intrinsic to these experiences that they feel different from visual hallucinations or day dreams. They carry an emotional weight and a sense of knowing you're actually connecting with "someone" or something.

I have no answers. But I'm humble enough to know I need to stay open to it even despite my scepticism. I suspect what's really going on here is just so super subtle, the mind tuning into miniscule subatomic variations in vibration that convey some kind of experience, that it won't be confirmed by science until it looks at it with the right tools.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I don't think it's likely that the incredibly complex brain created mind and personality of someone can survive once they are physically dead and decomposed. The concept of anything else taking the form of a person is equally not likely Imo.

What is more likely is that a living persons mind can create the perception of a ghost - this seems the most probable cause of ghosts. We would probably need to review and revise many scientific principles and theories should people continue to exist consciously and with some physically perceivable form once they have departed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't want to believe, but ive lived in a few spooky places with odd happenings that I couldn't explain. Plenty of stories from my Grandparents, who were thoroughly straight talking, about an old house of theirs that terrified them. So I probably do

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't think it's likely that the incredibly complex brain created mind and personality of someone can survive once they are physically dead and decomposed."

If the brain manufactures the mind this would suggest the thought "did I leave the kettle on?" is either some kind of molecule or series of electrical impulses. Either way it seems likely that such a molecule or set of impulses might have been created by sheer accident by other phenomenon out there in the universe. As such, the thought "did I leave the kettle on?" might be floating past neptune as we speak.

If, instead, the brain merely receives the mind and doesn't manufacture it and the mind is something like a field or force... then clearly that field or force would persist after death

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By *hubaysiWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

I've been to one - Armley Mills in Leeds, 10pm to 3am, we heard and saw spirits, I was also pushed by one, very freaky but it was good. Enjoy OP.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands

If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Going to the national emergency service museum in Sheffield tonight. Should be a good night hopefully. Just wonders how many fabbers believe in ghosts xx"
not sure but would like to be there right now lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The gullibility of some people never ceases to amaze me!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting."

The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that.

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By *illy_the_tvTV/TS  over a year ago

hoorn, Netherlands


"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting.

The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that. "

I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central


"The enfield haunting. I remember it on strange but true. Scared the living daylights out of me!"

That seemed like a hoax to me - desperate kids

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By *oachman 9CoolMan  over a year ago

derby

where I used to work on a large factory site there were a number of buildings reported to be haunted in one case doors were opened and shut and also forced and left open like fire escapes along with hearing footsteps late at night on a closed and patroled site, and also seen to, I was on holiday in norfolk and on two occasions while staying in a old converted water mill I experienced the paranorma along with my ex girlfriend too who experienced it

one year she said she could feel it before I mentioned it to her all in the dark this was a few words from me and it went so that was enough to make me believe in this, you don,t need to go looking for spirits they will either leave their presence or appear for you depending where you are if its the right time or moment but I also believe spirits can be present and no one can sense them unless a medium.

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By *hubaysiWoman  over a year ago

Leeds

A relative of mine was waiting for his train at a local train station. It was one of those stations where there are no toilets, no waiting rooms etc. This was about 5.00am in the morning, only him stood there waiting, he turned round and a young man was stood behind him, smiled at him, he looked again and he had gone, my relative looked all over for him. He was reading the local paper a few days later and there was an article about a young man who had killed himself by jumping in front of a moving train. The picture was of the man he had seen and it had happened a week before my relative saw him.

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By *J RHEAMan  over a year ago

S West

no the day I see a ghost, is the day I believe in them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Absolute baloney!

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By *hubaysiWoman  over a year ago

Leeds


"Absolute baloney! "

Until you experience it you will think like this.

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By *i1971Man  over a year ago

Cornwall

I believe that once we're gone from here, that's it. If there were ghosts, as has already been said, we'd surely be overrun with them by now. Open to changing my mind though should I experience anything personally to influence my current thoughts. (Happily sitting on the fence )

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By *D40Couple  over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Not me... The only spirits i believe in come in bottles...

Mrs _d40

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By *andsonjohnMan  over a year ago

in the eye of the storm


"I don't think it's likely that the incredibly complex brain created mind and personality of someone can survive once they are physically dead and decomposed. The concept of anything else taking the form of a person is equally not likely Imo.

What is more likely is that a living persons mind can create the perception of a ghost - this seems the most probable cause of ghosts. We would probably need to review and revise many scientific principles and theories should people continue to exist consciously and with some physically perceivable form once they have departed."

we wouldn't need to rewrite science due to the fact science says energy never dies it just changes form continuously .

as consciousness is energy in the brain its not beyond the realms of possibility that consciousness survives after death in a changed state some how .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting.

The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that.

I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations "

Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting.

The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that.

I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations

Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one. "

At what point is you explaining a vision you have experienced as a non plausible incarnation of a dead person not made up or fanciful

I'd suggest ALL possible and plausible explanations however elaborate or difficult are infinity more worthy of investigating than it really being the manifestation of something once living

The fact is you really DON'T know what your brain experienced you don't have the data to KNOW you have seen something YOU cannot rationalise and have randomly without basis attributed it to a human invented concept

That is the FACT

Note this fact does not suggest the vision does not seem 100 percent real

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting.

The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that.

I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations

Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one.

At what point is you explaining a vision you have experienced as a non plausible incarnation of a dead person not made up or fanciful

I'd suggest ALL possible and plausible explanations however elaborate or difficult are infinity more worthy of investigating than it really being the manifestation of something once living

The fact is you really DON'T know what your brain experienced you don't have the data to KNOW you have seen something YOU cannot rationalise and have randomly without basis attributed it to a human invented concept

That is the FACT

Note this fact does not suggest the vision does not seem 100 percent real"

I'll tell you a fact, me and two friends saw an old woman looking out of a window, there was no woman in the house, we saw her clear as day. That is the fact. People can talk as much shit as they like to explain it away, I don't really care, I'm just saying what I saw and that's that.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"If ghosts existed why wouldn't everyone see them all the damn time. Many times over the amount of people on earth right now have died, we wouldn't be able to move for ghosts if they existed. Why do they only appear in creepy places and at night? It's all a bunch of bs that's just your imagination getting away from you and your body reacting.

The one I saw was in broad daylight, and three of us saw it as plain as day. Neither you or anybody else can say it's bullshit any more than anybody can say it isn't but when you see the unexplainable your view changes, simple as that.

I can say it's bullshit because in my mind, and in science, it is. You've never seen me jump 100 feet in the air, but because you've not seen me do it does that mean you can't say that I can? The brain is a wonderful and insane thing that we barely understand and there are countless numbers of cases of shared hallucinations

Whatever Trevor, I know what I saw and that's all I need. I don't need fanciful or far fetched explanations to explain away something that I know was not a real woman but a ghost of one.

At what point is you explaining a vision you have experienced as a non plausible incarnation of a dead person not made up or fanciful

I'd suggest ALL possible and plausible explanations however elaborate or difficult are infinity more worthy of investigating than it really being the manifestation of something once living

The fact is you really DON'T know what your brain experienced you don't have the data to KNOW you have seen something YOU cannot rationalise and have randomly without basis attributed it to a human invented concept

That is the FACT

Note this fact does not suggest the vision does not seem 100 percent real

I'll tell you a fact, me and two friends saw an old woman looking out of a window, there was no woman in the house, we saw her clear as day. That is the fact. People can talk as much shit as they like to explain it away, I don't really care, I'm just saying what I saw and that's that. "

Yes I completely know your brains have experienced something so convincing you declare it to be an old lady ? Did not suggest you had not ?

To then try and explain your experience as no longer living is a stab in the dark made up explanation fuelled by thousands of years of human imagination being twisted into wild non plausible stories xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Personally.. Not in a million years will I believe in this, it's the way I am.. All science and logic with a bit of heart thrown in.

I'd even go so far as to question your sanity.. if there weren't so many people who felt the same.

My best mate goes Ghosthunting in Hereford.. I'm not allowed to go after the first time..ive been banned

I'm not calling any of you mad, dont read it like that please. It's just my view is so far removed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's been folklore about ghosts throughout human history. If they existed we would have had proper scientific proof by now.

Hence it's as certain as anything can be that ghosts don't exist. "

we still cant explain many things in science or the world around us. Ghosts is just another one of those things.

I lived in a documented haunted house growing up. It was not anyones imagination and without telling others they often felt or saw the same things..

And as for ghost amimals. There are many reports and I often fall over one of my deceased cats.. I see him and feel him jump on the bed. Only to look a second later and remember hes no longer with us. We also hear his calling and as he was part savannah his cry is distinct and we dont have any other cats that cry like that.

But I was brought up with supernatural being the norm... so there we go.

Cali

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By *sGivesWoodWoman  over a year ago

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL


"There's been folklore about ghosts throughout human history. If they existed we would have had proper scientific proof by now.

Hence it's as certain as anything can be that ghosts don't exist. we still cant explain many things in science or the world around us. Ghosts is just another one of those things.

I lived in a documented haunted house growing up. It was not anyones imagination and without telling others they often felt or saw the same things..

And as for ghost amimals. There are many reports and I often fall over one of my deceased cats.. I see him and feel him jump on the bed. Only to look a second later and remember hes no longer with us. We also hear his calling and as he was part savannah his cry is distinct and we dont have any other cats that cry like that.

But I was brought up with supernatural being the norm... so there we go.

Cali"

exactly this x

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By *0shades 2000Man  over a year ago

coleraine

Before the invention of Facebook and snapchat my meets thought I was a ghost..... I was gone before they woke in the morning and they never seen me again... ( this was when I was 15)

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By *SAchickWoman  over a year ago

Hillside desolate


"Before the invention of Facebook and snapchat my meets thought I was a ghost..... I was gone before they woke in the morning and they never seen me again... ( this was when I was 15) "

Eek did you feel that... No wait it was nothing just a breeze

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By *0shades 2000Man  over a year ago

coleraine


"Before the invention of Facebook and snapchat my meets thought I was a ghost..... I was gone before they woke in the morning and they never seen me again... ( this was when I was 15)

Eek did you feel that... No wait it was nothing just a breeze "

I'm swayze baby

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've read and watched a lot about ghostly goings on. I've had a few odd experiences myself in my life too. I'm interested, but I like to approach the subject with critical thinking.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS  over a year ago

Horsham

Not been on a ghost hunt, but have seen a few.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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East Sussex


"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm"

you might want to rephrase that lol.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm

you might want to rephrase that lol."

Haha

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm

you might want to rephrase that lol."

I think it sums this thread up perfectly. He's never been around one... so he doesn't believe it exists

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ghost Hunt is as fake as the female orgasm

you might want to rephrase that lol.

I think it sums this thread up perfectly. He's never been around one... so he doesn't believe it exists "

You mean it's real? Get the f&&ok out of here ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Wouldn't let me edit above post, supposed to be a laughing face at the end before anyone gets offended

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm probably going to be in a minority here but no I really don't believe in ghosts. I've never seen or heard anything that couldn't be explained logically. "

Walking through a graveyard late one night

Two dead men got up to fight

Back to back they faced each other

Drew their swords and shot each other

Explain that then!

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By *icecouple561Couple  over a year ago
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"I'm probably going to be in a minority here but no I really don't believe in ghosts. I've never seen or heard anything that couldn't be explained logically.

Walking through a graveyard late one night

Two dead men got up to fight

Back to back they faced each other

Drew their swords and shot each other

Explain that then! "

A deaf policeman heard their noise

And came and killed those two dead boys.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anyone out hunting the nite?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm a wannabe believer lol. I'm open minded to the thought of the supernatural and would love to experience something otherworldly

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"....would love to experience something otherworldly "

Try D M T to get you there

Good luck in your 10 mins or so

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"....would love to experience something otherworldly

Try D M T to get you there

Good luck in your 10 mins or so

"

Been there done that dude haha didn't see ghosts tho

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

What accepted truths about the world would be completely wrong, if there is something to it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nonsense! When it can be proved in a controlled, monitored, laboratory environment.. Then I'll believe it. Until then I'll remain agnostic.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think these programmes do a great job in fooling their target audience ....

To believe their bullshit, you've got to want to believe their bullshit ....

To me the give away many of these so called Ghost hunter type programmes have is right there in the closing credits "ghost hunters is produced for entertainment purposes only"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What accepted truths about the world would be completely wrong, if there is something to it? "

the fundamentals of all physics.

laws of thermodynamics, conservation of energy, gravity etc.

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