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"What's the question? How to continue seeing him without feeling bad?" Don't sugar coat whatever you do. | |||
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"Oh blimey! How many times have I heard the 'only staying for the sake of the kids and we barely have sex once a month' line Shag him if you want but he will not leave her and you will be hurt " Miss layed....sexy as fuck...sorry | |||
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"Pretty sure it was already known he was married from a previous thread you posted. Not the build up to the meet one but an earlier one. What feedback would you like, OP? None of us can predict the future. Personally, it's not a situation I would pursue. All the best whatever you decide. " Yes I knew that he was married before we met this occasion and the last (social) meet. I guess that the question is will he ever leave her? I realise that none of us have a crystal ball, but I kind of wanted to know your thoughts and experiences. I can massively assure you that he is so honest, sincere and genuine as they come although I know that you will find that hard to believe given that he is cheating. | |||
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"There's nothing wrong with feelings, it's how you act on them that counts. We can't help who we fall for. If he is staying with his wife for the kids' sake, how old are the kids? It could be years before they fly the nest and he becomes single. " The kids are age 12 and 9 | |||
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"Pretty sure it was already known he was married from a previous thread you posted. Not the build up to the meet one but an earlier one. What feedback would you like, OP? None of us can predict the future. Personally, it's not a situation I would pursue. All the best whatever you decide. Yes I knew that he was married before we met this occasion and the last (social) meet. I guess that the question is will he ever leave her? I realise that none of us have a crystal ball, but I kind of wanted to know your thoughts and experiences. I can massively assure you that he is so honest, sincere and genuine as they come although I know that you will find that hard to believe given that he is cheating." Nah, we're just all bloody good liars | |||
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"Pretty sure it was already known he was married from a previous thread you posted. Not the build up to the meet one but an earlier one. What feedback would you like, OP? None of us can predict the future. Personally, it's not a situation I would pursue. All the best whatever you decide. Yes I knew that he was married before we met this occasion and the last (social) meet. I guess that the question is will he ever leave her? I realise that none of us have a crystal ball, but I kind of wanted to know your thoughts and experiences. I can massively assure you that he is so honest, sincere and genuine as they come although I know that you will find that hard to believe given that he is cheating." Some men cheat as they are unfulfilled sexually or mentally, some just cheat because they can. Some enjoy the thrill, some are genuinely unhappy. I've never met one man say he's unfaithful because he's very happy but just wants more sex! They mostly all say the sex is shit and they don't want to leave because of children. | |||
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"Pretty sure it was already known he was married from a previous thread you posted. Not the build up to the meet one but an earlier one. What feedback would you like, OP? None of us can predict the future. Personally, it's not a situation I would pursue. All the best whatever you decide. Yes I knew that he was married before we met this occasion and the last (social) meet. I guess that the question is will he ever leave her? I realise that none of us have a crystal ball, but I kind of wanted to know your thoughts and experiences. I can massively assure you that he is so honest, sincere and genuine as they come although I know that you will find that hard to believe given that he is cheating." I'd say it's highly unlikely he will leave her. Sounds like it's too late for you to get yourself out of the situation, you're already hooked. Remember that he's probably fucking her too. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. " He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. | |||
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"Pretty sure it was already known he was married from a previous thread you posted. Not the build up to the meet one but an earlier one. What feedback would you like, OP? None of us can predict the future. Personally, it's not a situation I would pursue. All the best whatever you decide. Yes I knew that he was married before we met this occasion and the last (social) meet. I guess that the question is will he ever leave her? I realise that none of us have a crystal ball, but I kind of wanted to know your thoughts and experiences. I can massively assure you that he is so honest, sincere and genuine as they come although I know that you will find that hard to believe given that he is cheating." No, I meant it's not a surprise to the forum! I knew you knew, just reminding you that you've told us this nugget before. And many people gave you their input. I don't need massively assuring as to whether he's honest, sincere or genuine. I'm not shagging him! | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. " That's my point. Your the other woman. You deserve better. Never play second fiddle. If your even asking this you know the answer deep down. Either tell him how you feel and maybe he will feel the same or just leave it be. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. " i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.. | |||
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"Go find your own man." We all know your opinion. Leave her alone. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.." | |||
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"Sorry for being blunt. This will result in someone getting hurt. No one knowd if it would be you or his wife ? But here is the crux his wife knows nothing about this. You have the choice to walk away from it yes it will hurt a bit but you went into it with your eyes open unfortunately for her it would be like being hit with a juggernaut. My only advice is forget about him for one sec and put your feet in her shoes maybe then you will find the answers you are looking for Good luck with whatever you decide " Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. My point is that she does know some of what has been going on. | |||
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"Sorry for being blunt. This will result in someone getting hurt. No one knowd if it would be you or his wife ? But here is the crux his wife knows nothing about this. You have the choice to walk away from it yes it will hurt a bit but you went into it with your eyes open unfortunately for her it would be like being hit with a juggernaut. My only advice is forget about him for one sec and put your feet in her shoes maybe then you will find the answers you are looking for Good luck with whatever you decide Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. My point is that she does know some of what has been going on." Between yourself and him or just in general ? | |||
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"He works away! Chances are he has another woman just like you where he works, feeding her the same lines he been feeding you, sorry to be so harsh but if he can lie to his wife about where he is when he's with you, then why would he be honest to you???" I can assure you be he doesn't. He works in an all male environment with 170 men with no access to the 'outside world' | |||
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"Sorry for being blunt. This will result in someone getting hurt. No one knowd if it would be you or his wife ? But here is the crux his wife knows nothing about this. You have the choice to walk away from it yes it will hurt a bit but you went into it with your eyes open unfortunately for her it would be like being hit with a juggernaut. My only advice is forget about him for one sec and put your feet in her shoes maybe then you will find the answers you are looking for Good luck with whatever you decide Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. My point is that she does know some of what has been going on." Oh that's ok then. Plan your future with him. Surely that changes nothing? | |||
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"Go find your own man. We all know your opinion. Leave her alone. " He gave his opinion, it is allowed | |||
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"He works away! Chances are he has another woman just like you where he works, feeding her the same lines he been feeding you, sorry to be so harsh but if he can lie to his wife about where he is when he's with you, then why would he be honest to you??? I can assure you be he doesn't. He works in an all male environment with 170 men with no access to the 'outside world' " Aside from the World Wide Web. FaceTime Skype etc | |||
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"Sorry for being blunt. This will result in someone getting hurt. No one knowd if it would be you or his wife ? But here is the crux his wife knows nothing about this. You have the choice to walk away from it yes it will hurt a bit but you went into it with your eyes open unfortunately for her it would be like being hit with a juggernaut. My only advice is forget about him for one sec and put your feet in her shoes maybe then you will find the answers you are looking for Good luck with whatever you decide Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. My point is that she does know some of what has been going on." To me that's far worse than her not knowing anything. She trusted him to meet with her blessing. She trusted him when he said he wouldn't cheat again. He sounds like a real catch. | |||
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"Sorry for being blunt. This will result in someone getting hurt. No one knowd if it would be you or his wife ? But here is the crux his wife knows nothing about this. You have the choice to walk away from it yes it will hurt a bit but you went into it with your eyes open unfortunately for her it would be like being hit with a juggernaut. My only advice is forget about him for one sec and put your feet in her shoes maybe then you will find the answers you are looking for Good luck with whatever you decide Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. My point is that she does know some of what has been going on. Between yourself and him or just in general ?" Just in general I think, although he did tell her that there was/is "someone special". I obviously only have his word for that though. She went mad at first and then calmed down and they talked more. She apparently agreed to give it another chance. | |||
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"He works away! Chances are he has another woman just like you where he works, feeding her the same lines he been feeding you, sorry to be so harsh but if he can lie to his wife about where he is when he's with you, then why would he be honest to you??? I can assure you be he doesn't. He works in an all male environment with 170 men with no access to the 'outside world' " you have clearly decided to just believe anything he says,which is your perogative..but if you are thinking things like 'if he leaves his wife it might as well be for me', then maybe also think how much fun it will be when you have 2 resentful teenagers who hate you staying every other weekend, as well as always knowing the man youre with is a very very competent liar. | |||
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" Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. " He's proved himself to be untrustworthy on numerous occasions. IF he left his wife to be with you, how could you trust him? I wish you all the best whatever you decide. | |||
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"Sorry for being blunt. This will result in someone getting hurt. No one knowd if it would be you or his wife ? But here is the crux his wife knows nothing about this. You have the choice to walk away from it yes it will hurt a bit but you went into it with your eyes open unfortunately for her it would be like being hit with a juggernaut. My only advice is forget about him for one sec and put your feet in her shoes maybe then you will find the answers you are looking for Good luck with whatever you decide Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. My point is that she does know some of what has been going on. Between yourself and him or just in general ? Just in general I think, although he did tell her that there was/is "someone special". I obviously only have his word for that though. She went mad at first and then calmed down and they talked more. She apparently agreed to give it another chance." And this is what he does with that chance ? Sorry OP you will lose his wife will lose and he will just carry on as usual spinning his web of deciet | |||
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"Pretty sure it was already known he was married from a previous thread you posted. Not the build up to the meet one but an earlier one. What feedback would you like, OP? None of us can predict the future. Personally, it's not a situation I would pursue. All the best whatever you decide. Yes I knew that he was married before we met this occasion and the last (social) meet. I guess that the question is will he ever leave her? I realise that none of us have a crystal ball, but I kind of wanted to know your thoughts and experiences. I can massively assure you that he is so honest, sincere and genuine as they come although I know that you will find that hard to believe given that he is cheating." I've known so many men that have tried to say they are not happy, the wife never has sex with them or they are just staying together for the sake of the kids. They are overused excuses i'm afraid . You need to be cautious. I would suggest not taking everything he says as gospel. It's up to you where you go from here. But personally speaking, I would walk away. I have a feeling this will end badly..... No matter what the outcome. Only you can decide if you are willing to risk a broken heart or breaking up a family unit. | |||
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"Sorry for being blunt. This will result in someone getting hurt. No one knowd if it would be you or his wife ? But here is the crux his wife knows nothing about this. You have the choice to walk away from it yes it will hurt a bit but you went into it with your eyes open unfortunately for her it would be like being hit with a juggernaut. My only advice is forget about him for one sec and put your feet in her shoes maybe then you will find the answers you are looking for Good luck with whatever you decide Actually he had her 'permission' previously when he worked away on a more permanent basis. They agreed that he would stop when he returned home and never do it on leave but he has. They had a long discussion a few months ago when he apparently told her that he had been cheating, but she agreed to give him another chance. My point is that she does know some of what has been going on. Between yourself and him or just in general ? Just in general I think, although he did tell her that there was/is "someone special". I obviously only have his word for that though. She went mad at first and then calmed down and they talked more. She apparently agreed to give it another chance." Omg listen to what you're saying!! He told he there was 'someone special' she's apparently agreed to give him another chance and he's throwing it back in her face, what the actual fuck..?! He's the sort of person who gives us cheating married bastards a bad name...and yes I realise the irony in that sentence...!! | |||
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"Tell him to write tutorials for us blokes on fab. We could learn a lot from this master bull-shitter." | |||
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"Sorry, but can't decide if OP is just delusional or attention seeking!" Bit of both I think. After the long winded run up now this. It's why I don't watch soaps! | |||
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"Sorry, but can't decide if OP is just delusional or attention seeking! Bit of both I think. After the long winded run up now this. It's why I don't watch soaps! " I've missed the prelude.... | |||
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"Answer one question OP. Does he wash his dick afterwards? " https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lgWgEoaAYDY | |||
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"Op it doesn't really matter what anyone tells you. You're probably not really interested. You think the sun shines out of this blokes arse, so anything he tells you, you will believe. We can only go on what you're telling us, but from that perspective alone he is coming across as a bit of a bounder. If you're happy to believe that he loves you, that he will leave his wife and kids for you, that they never have sex, that he is as honest as the day is long, and are happy to be second choice, at his beck and call when he can fit you into his life, then by all means carry on. But know that you are probably kidding yourself. If you go on to get married and live happily ever after, i'll admit i was wrong. Sorry but i've watched a best mate waste years of her life on a married man. She changed from a bubbly outgoing lady to a miserable, paranoid wreck of a woman. It was awful to witness. " | |||
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"Sorry, but can't decide if OP is just delusional or attention seeking! Bit of both I think. After the long winded run up now this. It's why I don't watch soaps! " Waited and waited before deciding to post, glad it's not only me. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. " You don't know any of those things, you've met him twice. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. You don't know any of those things, you've met him twice." It's the "I know" of someone who so wants it to be true they close their mind to anything else. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. You don't know any of those things, you've met him twice." Exactly | |||
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"i'm not judging you, you are a grown woman...but bear in mind that you are taking everything he tells you as gospel.. it might be wise to remind yourself that he if is having sex with you without his partners knowledge,that makes him a liar. you can't help how you feel about someone, but you can help what you do about it. " I'm a man and I'm going to agree fully with this ladies comments. I will add this... The one thing to you'll wish for most in your smitten state is him and he cannot and will not give you that. That for now belongs to his wife and kids even though he's cheating on them and not you. They have him whenever they want or wish. You however will get the crumbs at best and these may become stale over time as he also sees how easy it is will stray further. What's topping him meeting other women? How'd you feel about that? I'm not judging either of you I'm just trying to offer another perspective. I have ate seeing someone hurt when they've been duped. If he's willing to do that to his wife and kids it'll be much easier to drop you in a few weeks or a months. How will you feel about that? Love is a funny thing. ..not to be ignored but certainly not to be played with. Karma. | |||
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"I'm going to add this too and it's sad really, if this was a guy he'd have been spit roasted by many of the women on her supporting you in genuine good advise. Gleaned from another post today... I wish I were a woman in times like this. " i dont think she's had a load of supportive advice, she's had some very straightforward comments,very bluntly put. | |||
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"I'm going to add this too and it's sad really, if this was a guy he'd have been spit roasted by many of the women on her supporting you in genuine good advise. Gleaned from another post today... I wish I were a woman in times like this. " Read back I don't think she was given a white knighting form males or females | |||
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"op life is to short and often to bitter to not grab what you have that's worth having and run with it . trust me you've having the kind of feeling life was made for having enjoy this moment for all its worth life is to short to precious not to in my honest opinion . and as for what others on here may think negatively to hell with them that's there problem not yours. true happiness is often a fleeting butterfly on then grounds enjoy it while you can ," she specifically says she's feeling alone and miserable!!!..and she asked for peoples responses knowing that obviously they weren't going to be wholeheartedly congratulatory..and no its not their problem, it's very clearly hers. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.." Yup this. The OP's post is a perfect example of 'why it's a bad idea for a single gal to meet married men' IMO. | |||
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"op life is to short and often to bitter to not grab what you have that's worth having and run with it . trust me you've having the kind of feeling life was made for having enjoy this moment for all its worth life is to short to precious not to in my honest opinion . and as for what others on here may think negatively to hell with them that's there problem not yours. true happiness is often a fleeting butterfly on then grounds enjoy it while you can ," What happens when that fleeting happiness comes crumbling down? Brush yourself down and wait for the next fleeting happiness? I'd rather get some stable happiness, and not mess around with married/attached guys. And before you say that's not guaranteed, it's better than hurting numerous people for a fleeting of happiness. | |||
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"op life is to short and often to bitter to not grab what you have that's worth having and run with it . trust me you've having the kind of feeling life was made for having enjoy this moment for all its worth life is to short to precious not to in my honest opinion . and as for what others on here may think negatively to hell with them that's there problem not yours. true happiness is often a fleeting butterfly on then grounds enjoy it while you can , What happens when that fleeting happiness comes crumbling down? Brush yourself down and wait for the next fleeting happiness? I'd rather get some stable happiness, and not mess around with married/attached guys. And before you say that's not guaranteed, it's better than hurting numerous people for a fleeting of happiness. " exactly! happiness need not be fleeting at all...and i find it hard to believe the OP is going to be happy, fleetingly or otherwise when she's tying herself up in knots already over some lying cheat.. | |||
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"op life is to short and often to bitter to not grab what you have that's worth having and run with it . trust me you've having the kind of feeling life was made for having enjoy this moment for all its worth life is to short to precious not to in my honest opinion . and as for what others on here may think negatively to hell with them that's there problem not yours. true happiness is often a fleeting butterfly on then grounds enjoy it while you can , What happens when that fleeting happiness comes crumbling down? Brush yourself down and wait for the next fleeting happiness? I'd rather get some stable happiness, and not mess around with married/attached guys. And before you say that's not guaranteed, it's better than hurting numerous people for a fleeting of happiness. exactly! happiness need not be fleeting at all...and i find it hard to believe the OP is going to be happy, fleetingly or otherwise when she's tying herself up in knots already over some lying cheat.." This^ | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.." she's suffering drop after a life changing event similar things happen after intense play between a top and a sub its to do with well I'm way to tired to go into the science of love at this time of night . maybe tomorrow i will run a post of the subject of love and the drop . | |||
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"Sorry, but can't decide if OP is just delusional or attention seeking! Bit of both I think. After the long winded run up now this. It's why I don't watch soaps! Waited and waited before deciding to post, glad it's not only me. " Me three! Married... after all the D.R.A.M.A.? Come on OP. I used to say that to the ladies when I was married. Most men do just so you know... | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.. she's suffering drop after a life changing event similar things happen after intense play between a top and a sub its to do with well I'm way to tired to go into the science of love at this time of night . maybe tomorrow i will run a post of the subject of love and the drop ." oh please don't. i think people on here are perfectly able to understand what she's feeling..after weeks of blathering about it, she finally got laid...then he left and its sunk in he'll only be back now and again, if and when he feels like it , so she feels like shit. It's happened to everyone, and everyone survives! Either she'll carry on until he gets bored or she'll decide she's worth a bit more, either way it's pretty straightforward... it's a shit situation, and i hope she feels better soon, but it hardly warrants some pseudo intellectual lecture on the 'science' of it. | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.. she's suffering drop after a life changing event similar things happen after intense play between a top and a sub its to do with well I'm way to tired to go into the science of love at this time of night . maybe tomorrow i will run a post of the subject of love and the drop . oh please don't. i think people on here are perfectly able to understand what she's feeling..after weeks of blathering about it, she finally got laid...then he left and its sunk in he'll only be back now and again, if and when he feels like it , so she feels like shit. It's happened to everyone, and everyone survives! Either she'll carry on until he gets bored or she'll decide she's worth a bit more, either way it's pretty straightforward... it's a shit situation, and i hope she feels better soon, but it hardly warrants some pseudo intellectual lecture on the 'science' of it." I love you x | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.. she's suffering drop after a life changing event similar things happen after intense play between a top and a sub its to do with well I'm way to tired to go into the science of love at this time of night . maybe tomorrow i will run a post of the subject of love and the drop . oh please don't. i think people on here are perfectly able to understand what she's feeling..after weeks of blathering about it, she finally got laid...then he left and its sunk in he'll only be back now and again, if and when he feels like it , so she feels like shit. It's happened to everyone, and everyone survives! Either she'll carry on until he gets bored or she'll decide she's worth a bit more, either way it's pretty straightforward... it's a shit situation, and i hope she feels better soon, but it hardly warrants some pseudo intellectual lecture on the 'science' of it." | |||
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"It's becoming more than NSA on your side. Not being harsh but you can bet your life on it he dosent feel the same. I'm not saying he didn't enjoy etc but he's married got a family and playing away, plus getting sex elsewhere. He's happy with that for now. I'd take a step back and reassess the situation and try to look at it objectively. As much as it hurts if you carry on you will always be the other woman. He can guarantee that he is only sleeping with me and the wife. Aside from lack of time and working away, I told him that was the deal. He sleeps with only me and the wife and no-one else. I know that he isnt the type to shag around so I know that it's just her and me. i know this will sound rude, but no, you don't know at all. Presumably if he can lie convincingly to a wife he has been close to for years, he can certainly lie convincingly to you. Online relationships can get very deep very quickly, because there's no normal day to day framework..just plenty of empty space to fill with fantasy..which often isn't what it seems when reality sets in.. she's suffering drop after a life changing event similar things happen after intense play between a top and a sub its to do with well I'm way to tired to go into the science of love at this time of night . maybe tomorrow i will run a post of the subject of love and the drop . oh please don't. i think people on here are perfectly able to understand what she's feeling..after weeks of blathering about it, she finally got laid...then he left and its sunk in he'll only be back now and again, if and when he feels like it , so she feels like shit. It's happened to everyone, and everyone survives! Either she'll carry on until he gets bored or she'll decide she's worth a bit more, either way it's pretty straightforward... it's a shit situation, and i hope she feels better soon, but it hardly warrants some pseudo intellectual lecture on the 'science' of it." I do agree | |||
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"Hi fabbers, Well those of you that read my recent post/s regarding a very special meet last night will know a little about what happened and the build up to it. Thank you all for your advice and good wishes. It is now time to confess however.... please don't judge or criticise. I know that it's wrong, but not everything is black and white. Life is real damn hard, complicated and confusing as hell sometimes. We had an amazing, intimate, passionate night. It was far more than just meaningless sex for both of us. We have developed such a close bond and connection that neither of us have ever felt before. We have communicated for months and become so close, but this was actually only the second meet (first was a social) He works away for weeks at a time and obviously can only meet when he is in the UK so it's not easy to get together. He would be perfect....I've waited allllll my life for a fantastic guy like him.......there is one massive problem though.... and here comes the confession; he is married. I always said that I would never meet a married guy and I certainly do not want to break up a family, but this guy means the world to me. He is everything I want and more. I think that I have fallen for him big time tbh. We've spoken about his wife/marriage quite a lot. I don't really understand what is going on, but he says that he expected that when he started working away that sex would become more frequent..... but it didn't have any impact and they are only intimate maybe once a month at the most. Obviously I dont know the dynamics of their marriage or the reasons, but I don't understand why she doesn't want to be Intimate with him. He is so sexy and damned amazing. Hell he drove me crazy!! We both loved last night. He gave me a gorgeous cuddle and kiss when he left, thanked me for a wonderful night and said that he is looking forward to the next. It nearly floored me when he returned to his family though. I know that sounds so very selfish. The gigantic issue that I am now facing is that I already miss him. I cant get him out of my head at all and I keep thinking about him spending time with the wife and wishing so much that it was me. I want to see him and make love with him again, but with his work commitments (he will be going away again soon) family and children it's going to be difficult to find the time. Also for obvious reasons it's important that we don't arouse suspicion. From what he has said, I believe that he is actually staying with her for the children. He is a great Dad and loves his kids to the earth and back. The crux of the matter is that I don't know how to handle my feelings and I wonder if while I am allowing him to 'have his cake' then nothing is going to change. I am also prob being way too impatient and presumptuous as it's still early days and who knows what could happen? I don't think that I have ever felt like this before. He makes me feel alive, special and gives me hope. I want to be with him so much. I am so confused and miserable right now. After an amazing, happy, special night last night. I feel alone and lonely tonight. As I said, please don't judge, I am not proud that we are potentially hurting his wife and possibly even splitting a family up. I don't want this, but I want him. It seems like a no win situation and I can't get my head around it. I do know that there are problems in the marriage and IF he is going to leave his wife, it may as well be for me! Please don't judge me or get on the morality step. I know it's wrong and I already feel guilty. Thank you. " OP read your OP and tell me exactly what it is you want us to say? We say anything you don't want to hear you write an angry update on your profile. We cannot tell you what to do because in the end the choice is yours,but I just hope you're happy with whatever you decide and the outcome of it after, even if it doesn't all go according to plan. It's nice that you are open to trusting everything he says, but sometimes we just believe what we want to hear and ignore the rest. Good luck | |||
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"op life is to short and often to bitter to not grab what you have that's worth having and run with it . trust me you've having the kind of feeling life was made for having enjoy this moment for all its worth life is to short to precious not to in my honest opinion . and as for what others on here may think negatively to hell with them that's there problem not yours. true happiness is often a fleeting butterfly on then grounds enjoy it while you can ," Unbelievable? !...true happiness at the expense of the wife and childrens devastation? ... | |||
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"Sorry, but can't decide if OP is just delusional or attention seeking! Bit of both I think. After the long winded run up now this. It's why I don't watch soaps! I've missed the prelude.... " Season 1 : www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/657240 . This is Season 2. Very gripping. Can't wait. Just wish the sex description is a little more graphic | |||
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"Hi fabbers, Well those of you that read my recent post/s regarding a very special meet last night will know a little about what happened and the build up to it. Thank you all for your advice and good wishes. It is now time to confess however.... please don't judge or criticise. I know that it's wrong, but not everything is black and white. Life is real damn hard, complicated and confusing as hell sometimes. We had an amazing, intimate, passionate night. It was far more than just meaningless sex for both of us. We have developed such a close bond and connection that neither of us have ever felt before. We have communicated for months and become so close, but this was actually only the second meet (first was a social) He works away for weeks at a time and obviously can only meet when he is in the UK so it's not easy to get together. He would be perfect....I've waited allllll my life for a fantastic guy like him.......there is one massive problem though.... and here comes the confession; he is married. I always said that I would never meet a married guy and I certainly do not want to break up a family, but this guy means the world to me. He is everything I want and more. I think that I have fallen for him big time tbh. We've spoken about his wife/marriage quite a lot. I don't really understand what is going on, but he says that he expected that when he started working away that sex would become more frequent..... but it didn't have any impact and they are only intimate maybe once a month at the most. Obviously I dont know the dynamics of their marriage or the reasons, but I don't understand why she doesn't want to be Intimate with him. He is so sexy and damned amazing. Hell he drove me crazy!! We both loved last night. He gave me a gorgeous cuddle and kiss when he left, thanked me for a wonderful night and said that he is looking forward to the next. It nearly floored me when he returned to his family though. I know that sounds so very selfish. The gigantic issue that I am now facing is that I already miss him. I cant get him out of my head at all and I keep thinking about him spending time with the wife and wishing so much that it was me. I want to see him and make love with him again, but with his work commitments (he will be going away again soon) family and children it's going to be difficult to find the time. Also for obvious reasons it's important that we don't arouse suspicion. From what he has said, I believe that he is actually staying with her for the children. He is a great Dad and loves his kids to the earth and back. The crux of the matter is that I don't know how to handle my feelings and I wonder if while I am allowing him to 'have his cake' then nothing is going to change. I am also prob being way too impatient and presumptuous as it's still early days and who knows what could happen? I don't think that I have ever felt like this before. He makes me feel alive, special and gives me hope. I want to be with him so much. I am so confused and miserable right now. After an amazing, happy, special night last night. I feel alone and lonely tonight. As I said, please don't judge, I am not proud that we are potentially hurting his wife and possibly even splitting a family up. I don't want this, but I want him. It seems like a no win situation and I can't get my head around it. I do know that there are problems in the marriage and IF he is going to leave his wife, it may as well be for me! Please don't judge me or get on the morality step. I know it's wrong and I already feel guilty. Thank you. " No matter what the circumstances,no matter what is said or done,no matter what the rights and wrongs,if and when the s**t hits the fan,YOU will be the villain of the piece. His wife,their kids,anyone who knows his wife and kids,,,even total strangers in the street who have only heard a part of the story,,will hate you,they will spread rumours about you and call you a whore. This is not me judging,it's just the way things are. | |||
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"No judgement op but you sound really naive . Just because he's told you he isn't sleeping with anyone else apart from you and his wife doesn't make it true . I think you're allowing your feelings to cloud your judgement and just taking everything he says as gospel. If he's spending time with you then he's lieing to his wife about where he is - so what makes you think that he won't lie to you too ?" | |||
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"Oh blimey! How many times have I heard the 'only staying for the sake of the kids and we barely have sex once a month' line Shag him if you want but he will not leave her and you will be hurt " Absolutely this. Hes got the best of both worlds. He will never leave her. | |||
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"There's nothing wrong with feelings, it's how you act on them that counts. We can't help who we fall for. If he is staying with his wife for the kids' sake, how old are the kids? It could be years before they fly the nest and he becomes single. The kids are age 12 and 9 " Mrs here sorry i havent read half the replies but did read the most important .... he gave you the im staying only for my kids we have sex once a month.... You have met this guy once for a social n once for sex then he went back to his wife jesus wake up he will never leave his wife and sorry but this is my morals but anyone who gets involved with a married man with kids is just looking for trouble its always the kids that get the most hurt Walk away if a person is that unhappy in a marriage they would leave that marriage before embarking on another relationship anyone cheating is certainly not amazing if he can do it to her and his kids he can do it to you I can only see this ending in tears | |||
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"Hi fabbers, Well those of you that read my recent post/s regarding a very special meet last night will know a little about what happened and the build up to it. Thank you all for your advice and good wishes. It is now time to confess however.... please don't judge or criticise. I know that it's wrong, but not everything is black and white. Life is real damn hard, complicated and confusing as hell sometimes. We had an amazing, intimate, passionate night. It was far more than just meaningless sex for both of us. We have developed such a close bond and connection that neither of us have ever felt before. We have communicated for months and become so close, but this was actually only the second meet (first was a social) He works away for weeks at a time and obviously can only meet when he is in the UK so it's not easy to get together. He would be perfect....I've waited allllll my life for a fantastic guy like him.......there is one massive problem though.... and here comes the confession; he is married. I always said that I would never meet a married guy and I certainly do not want to break up a family, but this guy means the world to me. He is everything I want and more. I think that I have fallen for him big time tbh. We've spoken about his wife/marriage quite a lot. I don't really understand what is going on, but he says that he expected that when he started working away that sex would become more frequent..... but it didn't have any impact and they are only intimate maybe once a month at the most. Obviously I dont know the dynamics of their marriage or the reasons, but I don't understand why she doesn't want to be Intimate with him. He is so sexy and damned amazing. Hell he drove me crazy!! We both loved last night. He gave me a gorgeous cuddle and kiss when he left, thanked me for a wonderful night and said that he is looking forward to the next. It nearly floored me when he returned to his family though. I know that sounds so very selfish. The gigantic issue that I am now facing is that I already miss him. I cant get him out of my head at all and I keep thinking about him spending time with the wife and wishing so much that it was me. I want to see him and make love with him again, but with his work commitments (he will be going away again soon) family and children it's going to be difficult to find the time. Also for obvious reasons it's important that we don't arouse suspicion. From what he has said, I believe that he is actually staying with her for the children. He is a great Dad and loves his kids to the earth and back. The crux of the matter is that I don't know how to handle my feelings and I wonder if while I am allowing him to 'have his cake' then nothing is going to change. I am also prob being way too impatient and presumptuous as it's still early days and who knows what could happen? I don't think that I have ever felt like this before. He makes me feel alive, special and gives me hope. I want to be with him so much. I am so confused and miserable right now. After an amazing, happy, special night last night. I feel alone and lonely tonight. As I said, please don't judge, I am not proud that we are potentially hurting his wife and possibly even splitting a family up. I don't want this, but I want him. It seems like a no win situation and I can't get my head around it. I do know that there are problems in the marriage and IF he is going to leave his wife, it may as well be for me! Please don't judge me or get on the morality step. I know it's wrong and I already feel guilty. Thank you. " Go for it have fun you just don't know what's around the corner. Don't think about it to much | |||
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"How would you feel if you were his wife? I think that us women should obey the unwritten rule when it comes to married men. He is simply having his cake and eating it too. You will spend birthdays Christmas and every important date alone. I think men like him are rotten and women like you shouldn't indulge him. If his wife knew that's a whole different story but she clearly doesn't." Maybe op Should get his home number and let her know she would know where she stand after that . | |||
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"How would you feel if you were his wife? I think that us women should obey the unwritten rule when it comes to married men. He is simply having his cake and eating it too. You will spend birthdays Christmas and every important date alone. I think men like him are rotten and women like you shouldn't indulge him. If his wife knew that's a whole different story but she clearly doesn't." Agree | |||
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"How would you feel if you were his wife? I think that us women should obey the unwritten rule when it comes to married men. He is simply having his cake and eating it too. You will spend birthdays Christmas and every important date alone. I think men like him are rotten and women like you shouldn't indulge him. If his wife knew that's a whole different story but she clearly doesn't." I don't buy into all that "unwritten rules" malarkey, reminds me of the playground. Relationships are unique, complex & no one truly knows what goes on behind closed doors, its just a mass of generalisations & assumptione.... | |||
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"You ask people not to judge or get all moral on you but honestly what were you expecting from posting this? You say you feel guilty about 'potentially hurting his wife' then don't do it! I would imagine there's every potential this would hurt her, he's already hurt her and she's given him a second chance and now he's royally fucked that up aswell! And this is the guy you have been waiting your whole life for? A liar, a cheat? Apart from the obvious hurt it would cause the wife he has children. Did your father leave your family for another woman OP? I can tell you it's painful as a child, very painful, and it can affect your trust issues for a long time after. Like another poster said if she's looking after 2 kids on her own for weeks on end no wonder she isn't ripping his clothes off when he walks through the door she's probably fucking knackered! To be blunt get a grip of yourself you have met him twice! I'm pretty sure it took me and my husband weeks of dates and getting to know each other before we became a 'proper' couple, one social, one shag and you are talking about him leaving his wife? And a ranty status then because people didn't say what you wanted to hear they said the truth? Some people will struggle to have compassion for you when you are willingly going to help break up a family, I'm sorry if you don't like this but I'm sure you notice on the forums people are straight and don't sugar coat shit situations." | |||
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"I was in a very similar situation to you OP. . .although I was told they were splitting up. He didn't want to be with her, they no longer talked or slept together and were in the process of separating. He wanted to be with me, I was amazing and could make him happy. He text me constantly and phoned all the time. I met up with him lots and was even invited to his house often which I never did as I felt his wife had enough to cope with losing the man she loved. Fast forward a few months of amazing sex and fun and the wife found out. Turns out they were happily married or so she thought and everything he'd told me was lies. (I too thought he was genuinely amazing and trustworthy and was blinded by the lust) funnily enough everyone around me was saying much the same as everyone is saying on here to you but of course. . . They didn't know him like I did!! Looking back I wish I'd listened to all the doubters. I got unbelievably hurt!!! It was an awful time and I would've got less hurt walking away at the beginning. Turned out he'd cheated before and probably has since and his wife must be terribly hurt finding out the man she loves is doing this to her. My advice to you is to tell him you can't see him again unless he's single. Then you'll find out how much he wants to be with you. I'm sorry but he's a cheater and if he'll cheat with you he'll cheat on you so why put yourself through it? I wish I'd known the man I was seeing was happily married and not in the process of filing for divorce etc I would never have gone near him and it's certainly made me less trusting. I was very naive but honestly the loneliness when he leaves you everytime is soul destroying and everytime you see him you'll want him even more. I'm sure he's loving the attention. Don't be the other woman. You deserve so much better!!! " | |||
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