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They don't bother me, if they are someone else's. Mine always behaved, so I've not experienced the embarrassment or stress of my child crying in public
What I would have done is take it outside and try to calm it down (depending on age). If that failed I would ask for our food to be put into doggy bags, and take it home to eat.
If it's in McDonalds I probably wouldn't take much notice. |
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If the people with the child were doing nothing to remedy the noise then I think they should be asked to do something, or leave, assuming it is constant noise. |
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!? 
It upsets me to see upset children  "
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
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When my son was 2 he screamed a restaurant down because I wouldn't let him put pepper in his drink, the amount of disgusted looks I got off other people because he was screaming was unreal |
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
When my son was 2 he screamed a restaurant down because I wouldn't let him put pepper in his drink, the amount of disgusted looks I got off other people because he was screaming was unreal"
Haha I had a similar incedent with my 2 year old. Only difference is I let him put pepper in his drink. After he tasted it he never asked to do it again  |
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Love kids!
Usually, when a stranger makes eye contact with the kid and asks what's wrong or admonishes bad behaviour it sends the message that their behaviour is affecting the public. But nowadays unfortunately everyone keeps to themselves so for the child it's like they live in a world where no one is affected by their bad behaviour and that is very strange. It's like being in a world of mannequins. If it's a baby that's different. But if a kid is screaming in a restaurant I don't give a damn how their parents feel, I'll walk up to the kid and let them know that their behaviour is bothering me and I would want others to do the same to my kids. |
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
When my son was 2 he screamed a restaurant down because I wouldn't let him put pepper in his drink, the amount of disgusted looks I got off other people because he was screaming was unreal
Haha I had a similar incedent with my 2 year old. Only difference is I let him put pepper in his drink. After he tasted it he never asked to do it again "
Haha, sometimes the best way to teach is to let them taste. |
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
When my son was 2 he screamed a restaurant down because I wouldn't let him put pepper in his drink, the amount of disgusted looks I got off other people because he was screaming was unreal
Haha I had a similar incedent with my 2 year old. Only difference is I let him put pepper in his drink. After he tasted it he never asked to do it again "
Haha I did let him drink vinegar when he spent 15+ minutes screaming that he wanted it to be his drink |
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
When my son was 2 he screamed a restaurant down because I wouldn't let him put pepper in his drink, the amount of disgusted looks I got off other people because he was screaming was unreal
Haha I had a similar incedent with my 2 year old. Only difference is I let him put pepper in his drink. After he tasted it he never asked to do it again
Haha, sometimes the best way to teach is to let them taste. "
Exactly, let them make their own mistakes
Sometimes anyway |
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
When my son was 2 he screamed a restaurant down because I wouldn't let him put pepper in his drink, the amount of disgusted looks I got off other people because he was screaming was unreal"
Sometimes you've got to be cruel to be kind,
want to put pepper in your drink ?
Yes
That's a great idea go ahead
Bleeuuuughhh(sick)
Do you want more pepper in your drink
NO
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Mine just got a look when they were younger they knew not to continue whatever it was they were starting. I've never had screaming thankfully and once congratulated a poor woman for leaving a child screaming on the floor in a shopping mall. She could see the child but she was obviously distressed about leaving the child so I just had to say something. The child realised he wasn't going to get what he wanted and he wasn't being rewarded with attention for bad behaviour so got up. I even heard him apologise to Mum. Parenting is hard but unruly children in public my kids actually frown upon them. They regularly pass comment when we get home to say it wasn't appropriate. I used to use other children's bad behaviour in public to show them what wasn't acceptable. Although you can avoid the potential for screaming with younger ones to a degree. Make sure they aren't hungry or tired and take things to occupy them. Don't make them sit for an hour while you select food and wait for it to arrive. But sometimes nothing will work, that's kids, not sure about chucking out  |
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"Should kids be chucked out of eating places if they won't stop screaming???!
Depends if they are 35,000 ft high eating on an aircraft, What will you do then ? "
Chuck them out  |
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"Should kids be chucked out of eating places if they won't stop screaming???! "
I always take my headphones when shopping at a certain supermarket as Nearly always screaming kids.
Normally screaming for a toy then crying with melodramatics |
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"Plenty of annoying adults in places as well....  "
I agree, I think that the finest minds should be diverted to resolving this issue, I had originally considered powerful ejector seats triggered by a decibel meter. But the problem is messy splotches on the ceiling 
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I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
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"They don't bother me, if they are someone else's. Mine always behaved, so I've not experienced the embarrassment or stress of my child crying in public
What I would have done is take it outside and try to calm it down (depending on age). If that failed I would ask for our food to be put into doggy bags, and take it home to eat.
If it's in McDonalds I probably wouldn't take much notice. "
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs. "
Always one |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Always one "
Didn't say it doesn't irritate me. Just you know, there's more going on in the world than always getting my way, right...?
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs. "
Yes that is a different matter entirely and I don't think the OP was referring to any child that has any kind of condition that could cause them to display uncorrectable behaviour. I think this is more what I've just witnessed in the supermarket, a tantrum due to hearing the word no, kids pffft |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs. "
I have a degree of empathyfor people whose children have a meltdown, been there myself & it can be hideous when all eyes are on you, judging how you're going to handle the situation. If I couldn't placate my child in a timely manner I would remove myself and them from the table until they had calmed down enough to return.
But there are some people who will not (under any circumstances) parent their offspring, they just simply carry on regardless of others.
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Yes that is a different matter entirely and I don't think the OP was referring to any child that has any kind of condition that could cause them to display uncorrectable behaviour. I think this is more what I've just witnessed in the supermarket, a tantrum due to hearing the word no, kids pffft "
Mmmmm. Because you always *know* if someone has a condition, yeah?
Also, it's irrelevant to me whether you feel the OP meant that or not. I'm making the point because everyone assumes they'd know the difference. |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs. "
I am one such parent, my daughter has severe learning difficulties but looks perfectly normal. She has in the past had very challenging behaviour. I don't take her in eating places at present because she won't eat anything. With her going to a special school I know a lot of other children/adults with learning disabilities too. You often can't tell by looking at a child if they have a disability like for instance autism. Most people we meet in my town are fine with her, an odd few are not. But she has the right to be, out. There are a lot of kids about who are just undisciplined though. XXX |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs. "
My middle son suffered brain damage when he was 4, permanent physical disabilities & some behavioural/emotional ones too.
My youngest is ADHD/ASD & tbh, a bloody nightmare at times.
If either of them had a meltdown or created a scene we'd be out of there like a shot.
I would not wish to ruin anybody else's day/night out.
They've possibly paid for a babysitter or having a rare day when the grandparents are at hand, they don't need my kids spoiling their own child free time |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Always one "
If you mean someone who understands it not always about "bad parenting" make that two. |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Yes that is a different matter entirely and I don't think the OP was referring to any child that has any kind of condition that could cause them to display uncorrectable behaviour. I think this is more what I've just witnessed in the supermarket, a tantrum due to hearing the word no, kids pffft
Mmmmm. Because you always *know* if someone has a condition, yeah?
Also, it's irrelevant to me whether you feel the OP meant that or not. I'm making the point because everyone assumes they'd know the difference. "
Correct, very often you can't know xxx |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
I have a degree of empathyfor people whose children have a meltdown, been there myself & it can be hideous when all eyes are on you, judging how you're going to handle the situation. If I couldn't placate my child in a timely manner I would remove myself and them from the table until they had calmed down enough to return.
But there are some people who will not (under any circumstances) parent their offspring, they just simply carry on regardless of others.
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I get that. And I made the point of referring to children with a condition as it may pull people's thinking up. But parenting full stop is hard work whether the child has additional conditions or not. To be honest, I still feel that I don't know what on earth is or isn't going on for someone else and I can remove myself if I need to, if I'm aggrieved, so no -- I don't think my desire to not be near loud children in a public space is more important than their right to be there and shouldn't mean they get chucked out. |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Yes that is a different matter entirely and I don't think the OP was referring to any child that has any kind of condition that could cause them to display uncorrectable behaviour. I think this is more what I've just witnessed in the supermarket, a tantrum due to hearing the word no, kids pffft
Mmmmm. Because you always *know* if someone has a condition, yeah?
Also, it's irrelevant to me whether you feel the OP meant that or not. I'm making the point because everyone assumes they'd know the difference. "
Do they? One should never assume  . I wasn't trying to belittle your response I apologise if that's how it came across |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Yes that is a different matter entirely and I don't think the OP was referring to any child that has any kind of condition that could cause them to display uncorrectable behaviour. I think this is more what I've just witnessed in the supermarket, a tantrum due to hearing the word no, kids pffft
Mmmmm. Because you always *know* if someone has a condition, yeah?
Also, it's irrelevant to me whether you feel the OP meant that or not. I'm making the point because everyone assumes they'd know the difference.
Do they? One should never assume . I wasn't trying to belittle your response I apologise if that's how it came across "
My use of the word assumes was intentionally sarcastic.
And thank you x |
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"My local pub has become plagued by them grrrrrr "
I know -kids shouldn't be in pubs end of.
Screaming shouting horrible little gits.
Have you been to France? Amazing kids, quiet polite and civilized. Then compare that to your local on Sunday afternoon at the carvery.
Or worse on holiday round the pool in magaluff. German kids, immaculately behaved. Then compare that to the feral mob of English mini hooligan screaming shouting crying swearing. It's depressing |
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"Should kids be chucked out of eating places if they won't stop screaming???! "
If anyone, regardless of age, is disturbing the other customers, then they'd be politely asked to leave, when we had our own pub, that was 
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I reserve the right to be annoyed by any intrusive behaviour by children under the age of 99 no matter what issues they may have, I don't really need to know their back story.
Those over 99 who can't behave should be taken home and punished by their parents
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
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The problem is that's what the parents think so ignore the little shits, I blame the parents, chuck them all out.
Believe in Japan the family is asked to leave supermarkets etc if their child is making a noise, bring in here! |
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"You would hope the people looking after the kids would want to stop them screaming!?
It upsets me to see upset children
It doesn't mean they are upset, half the time they are having a strop because they've been told no to something so they're attention seeking.
The problem is that's what the parents think so ignore the little shits, I blame the parents, chuck them all out.
Believe in Japan the family is asked to leave supermarkets etc if their child is making a noise, bring in here!"
I say chuck grumpy old men who call children little shits out first. |
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"I reserve the right to be annoyed by any intrusive behaviour by children under the age of 99 no matter what issues they may have, I don't really need to know their back story.
Those over 99 who can't behave should be taken home and punished by their parents
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I respect your right to do that, yet I reserve the right to call that attitude self-centred and lacking compassion |
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The problem is that's what the parents think so ignore the little shits, I blame the parents, chuck them all out.
Believe in Japan the family is asked to leave supermarkets etc if their child is making a noise, bring in here!
I say chuck grumpy old men who call children little shits out first."
I was going to type this but you got there a good time before me! |
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"Mine just got a look when they were younger they knew not to continue whatever it was they were starting. I've never had screaming thankfully and once congratulated a poor woman for leaving a child screaming on the floor in a shopping mall. She could see the child but she was obviously distressed about leaving the child so I just had to say something. The child realised he wasn't going to get what he wanted and he wasn't being rewarded with attention for bad behaviour so got up. I even heard him apologise to Mum. Parenting is hard but unruly children in public my kids actually frown upon them. They regularly pass comment when we get home to say it wasn't appropriate. I used to use other children's bad behaviour in public to show them what wasn't acceptable. Although you can avoid the potential for screaming with younger ones to a degree. Make sure they aren't hungry or tired and take things to occupy them. Don't make them sit for an hour while you select food and wait for it to arrive. But sometimes nothing will work, that's kids, not sure about chucking out "
I agree with all this, especially taking something to occupy them. It's mean to expect a young child to entertain themselves while shopping or waiting for food. It's boring enough for adults!
So many parents ignore their kids, looking at their phones etc. Talk to them. Play a game. Teach them how to be sociable. |
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"Should kids be chucked out of eating places if they won't stop screaming???! "
If it's a family friendly pub eatery then it's kinda expected. Don't go if you can't handle children crying or go somewhere else. |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs. "
Absolutely.
My OP is merely an open question.  |
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The problem is that's what the parents think so ignore the little shits, I blame the parents, chuck them all out.
Believe in Japan the family is asked to leave supermarkets etc if their child is making a noise, bring in here!
I say chuck grumpy old men who call children little shits out first.
I was going to type this but you got there a good time before me! "
So it's okay for parents to allow their kids to spoil other people's meals out then?
Before you ask, yes we have and no they never did, we would have being mortified if they did! |
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I make no bones about it. I hate kids especially little noisy feckers. How the hell my 2 survived to be teens I'll never know!
I completely sympathise with the parents but yes I agree they should be put to work or SILENCED!!!
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Absolutely.
My OP is merely an open question. "
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The problem is that's what the parents think so ignore the little shits, I blame the parents, chuck them all out.
Believe in Japan the family is asked to leave supermarkets etc if their child is making a noise, bring in here!
I say chuck grumpy old men who call children little shits out first.
I was going to type this but you got there a good time before me!
So it's okay for parents to allow their kids to spoil other people's meals out then?
Before you ask, yes we have and no they never did, we would have being mortified if they did!"
Not all children behave the same as not all parents do. |
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The problem is that's what the parents think so ignore the little shits, I blame the parents, chuck them all out.
Believe in Japan the family is asked to leave supermarkets etc if their child is making a noise, bring in here!
I say chuck grumpy old men who call children little shits out first.
I was going to type this but you got there a good time before me!
So it's okay for parents to allow their kids to spoil other people's meals out then?
Before you ask, yes we have and no they never did, we would have being mortified if they did!"
Well, aren't you the world's best parent then?! Although if the compassion is that lacking, the former point may yet be questionable. |
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"My local pub has become plagued by them grrrrrr
I know -kids shouldn't be in pubs end of.
Screaming shouting horrible little gits.
Have you been to France? Amazing kids, quiet polite and civilized. Then compare that to your local on Sunday afternoon at the carvery.
Or worse on holiday round the pool in magaluff. German kids, immaculately behaved. Then compare that to the feral mob of English mini hooligan screaming shouting crying swearing. It's depressing"
Well said and absolutely right, if theirs can and do then why can't we and ours. |
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"My local pub has become plagued by them grrrrrr
I know -kids shouldn't be in pubs end of.
Screaming shouting horrible little gits.
Have you been to France? Amazing kids, quiet polite and civilized. Then compare that to your local on Sunday afternoon at the carvery.
Or worse on holiday round the pool in magaluff. German kids, immaculately behaved. Then compare that to the feral mob of English mini hooligan screaming shouting crying swearing. It's depressing
Well said and absolutely right, if theirs can and do then why can't we and ours."
Move to France, problem solved |
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"My local pub has become plagued by them grrrrrr
I know -kids shouldn't be in pubs end of.
Screaming shouting horrible little gits.
Have you been to France? Amazing kids, quiet polite and civilized. Then compare that to your local on Sunday afternoon at the carvery.
Or worse on holiday round the pool in magaluff. German kids, immaculately behaved. Then compare that to the feral mob of English mini hooligan screaming shouting crying swearing. It's depressing
Well said and absolutely right, if theirs can and do then why can't we and ours.
Move to France, problem solved "
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Always one
If you mean someone who understands it not always about "bad parenting" make that two."
But sometimes it is. Nothing makes me cringe more than parents who want to be their kids 'friend'. |
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Just say remember father christmas will not be bringing you any presents at christmas if you carry on being naughty, he,s got a list he carrys around with him any naughty children get put on it to remind him not to hand out presents to those naughty kids concerned.. |
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"This rule does not apply between the age of 2 1/2 to 4. They never effing listen anyway so expect it. "
My son is almost 2 almost 3 and he's a good lad. If I tell him no to something he wants he'll sulk and lay down but he's never thrown a tantrum no matter how tired he is or how much he wants it. I'm lucky that I feel comfatable taking him anywhere.
But there's still a few years for that to happen so I'm fully aware it's coming |
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"This rule does not apply between the age of 2 1/2 to 4. They never effing listen anyway so expect it.
My son is almost 2 almost 3 and he's a good lad. If I tell him no to something he wants he'll sulk and lay down but he's never thrown a tantrum no matter how tired he is or how much he wants it. I'm lucky that I feel comfatable taking him anywhere.
But there's still a few years for that to happen so I'm fully aware it's coming "
Teenagers...a whole new ball game |
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i think it's very important for children to be able to eat out in restaurants, pubs etc to become socialised...and being socialised means learning to be aware of others, be aware of what is or isn't acceptable behaviour..so it really annoys me when you see parents who allow their kids to misbehave in public as if it's other people's problem to deal with. It's ignorant,selfish and really unhelpful to raise kids to think that the best way of getting what they want is by screaming at someone until they give in....and yes,i'm perfectly aware no -one can stop a child from the occasional meltdown either..but have the good manners to remove them and deal with it elsewhere. |
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"Ay up. ...we've got the school teacher in here sorting the naughty kids out "
Sounds like there's one or two who are not parents as well, probably just "aunties" who occasionally take their charming characterful wards to luncheon |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
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Always one
If you mean someone who understands it not always about "bad parenting" make that two.
But sometimes it is. Nothing makes me cringe more than parents who want to be their kids 'friend'. "
Why?
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
Always one
If you mean someone who understands it not always about "bad parenting" make that two.
But sometimes it is. Nothing makes me cringe more than parents who want to be their kids 'friend'. "
Of course, not always doesn't negate the sometimes. |
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NO. they are CHILDREN FFS. Throw the parents out for not being able to control their children. Any dumb nut can have a child but not every person can raise one. It's the parents fault not the child's. |
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"Ay up. ...we've got the school teacher in here sorting the naughty kids out
Sounds like there's one or two who are not parents as well, probably just "aunties" who occasionally take their charming characterful wards to luncheon "
That not me ill have you know. Dad to two |
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"i think it's very important for children to be able to eat out in restaurants, pubs etc to become socialised...and being socialised means learning to be aware of others, be aware of what is or isn't acceptable behaviour..so it really annoys me when you see parents who allow their kids to misbehave in public as if it's other people's problem to deal with. It's ignorant,selfish and really unhelpful to raise kids to think that the best way of getting what they want is by screaming at someone until they give in....and yes,i'm perfectly aware no -one can stop a child from the occasional meltdown either..but have the good manners to remove them and deal with it elsewhere."
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"I dislike kids- but they are everywhere now - what happened to leave kids at home with babysitter"
I agree. Obviously in day time me and the ex took our kid to a place that was kid friendly, which meant there would be other kids there. On an evening or night time we would get a babysitter or take him to my mums and we would go places where kids weren't allowed so we could have some peace |
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"This rule does not apply between the age of 2 1/2 to 4. They never effing listen anyway so expect it.
My son is almost 2 almost 3 and he's a good lad. If I tell him no to something he wants he'll sulk and lay down but he's never thrown a tantrum no matter how tired he is or how much he wants it. I'm lucky that I feel comfatable taking him anywhere.
But there's still a few years for that to happen so I'm fully aware it's coming
Teenagers...a whole new ball game"
I'm dreading it and looking forward to it at the same time, if he keeps going like he is he'll be a good lad, but who knows what the hormones will do |
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"i think it's very important for children to be able to eat out in restaurants, pubs etc to become socialised...and being socialised means learning to be aware of others, be aware of what is or isn't acceptable behaviour..so it really annoys me when you see parents who allow their kids to misbehave in public as if it's other people's problem to deal with. It's ignorant,selfish and really unhelpful to raise kids to think that the best way of getting what they want is by screaming at someone until they give in....and yes,i'm perfectly aware no -one can stop a child from the occasional meltdown either..but have the good manners to remove them and deal with it elsewhere."
I agree with the first part re it being something for children to learn (being aware of others). I disagree with the part where everyone seems to forget that part now they're the adults -- judging others and criticising others from afar, not because they're bothered about the child's future development but because their meal is being disturbed.
Anyone actually checking in with the parents in a nonjudgmental way and helping those that don't understand the socialisation bit, or helping out the overwrought parent who may be struggling? And if you're not prepared to do that...well why should anyone else have to be prepared to do owt for you?
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"NO. they are CHILDREN FFS. Throw the parents out for not being able to control their children. Any dumb nut can have a child but not every person can raise one. It's the parents fault not the child's."
Just a slight point of order, if you keep throwing all the parents out you could end up with a lot of children! Possibly best to throw them all out together  |
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"Ay up. ...we've got the school teacher in here sorting the naughty kids out
Sounds like there's one or two who are not parents as well, probably just "aunties" who occasionally take their charming characterful wards to luncheon "
Ah but by that token, you then have no "right" to have an opinion on anyone other than you, Doc. |
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"Ay up. ...we've got the school teacher in here sorting the naughty kids out
Sounds like there's one or two who are not parents as well, probably just "aunties" who occasionally take their charming characterful wards to luncheon
Ah but by that token, you then have no "right" to have an opinion on anyone other than you, Doc. "
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"Ay up. ...we've got the school teacher in here sorting the naughty kids out
Sounds like there's one or two who are not parents as well, probably just "aunties" who occasionally take their charming characterful wards to luncheon
Ah but by that token, you then have no "right" to have an opinion on anyone other than you, Doc.
"Calm down Dear" it's only a thread! "
I'm perfectly calm. That's quite a patronising assumption to think I'm not just enjoying making my opinion on the forum on a thread that's interested me. Still, doesn't surprise me. |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
I am one such parent, my daughter has severe learning difficulties but looks perfectly normal. She has in the past had very challenging behaviour. I don't take her in eating places at present because she won't eat anything. With her going to a special school I know a lot of other children/adults with learning disabilities too. You often can't tell by looking at a child if they have a disability like for instance autism. Most people we meet in my town are fine with her, an odd few are not. But she has the right to be, out. There are a lot of kids about who are just undisciplined though. XXX"
This.
I have two children with learning disabilities and they don't look any different to any other 'normal child' it can be really hard at times when we are out together and they are acting up (arguing and fighting) they are teens now and it's hard to explain that they may look the age they are but maturity wise they aren't and act a lot younger. |
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"NO. they are CHILDREN FFS. Throw the parents out for not being able to control their children. Any dumb nut can have a child but not every person can raise one. It's the parents fault not the child's.
Just a slight point of order, if you keep throwing all the parents out you could end up with a lot of children! Possibly best to throw them all out together "
We need a skip. |
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
I have a degree of empathyfor people whose children have a meltdown, been there myself & it can be hideous when all eyes are on you, judging how you're going to handle the situation. If I couldn't placate my child in a timely manner I would remove myself and them from the table until they had calmed down enough to return.
But there are some people who will not (under any circumstances) parent their offspring, they just simply carry on regardless of others.
I get that. And I made the point of referring to children with a condition as it may pull people's thinking up. But parenting full stop is hard work whether the child has additional conditions or not. To be honest, I still feel that I don't know what on earth is or isn't going on for someone else and I can remove myself if I need to, if I'm aggrieved, so no -- I don't think my desire to not be near loud children in a public space is more important than their right to be there and shouldn't mean they get chucked out. "
I don't think there should be any 'chucking out' but I do believe from my own experiences that some parents are totally immune to the disturbance their kids are causing others.
Kids can be a right ole handful at times there's no denying that. However, I can see the difference between someone who is actually parenting (regardless if the child has additional needs) and those who just can't be arsed.
That's the point I'm making.
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"I wonder about those parents that perhaps have children with a learning difficulty or condition that may mean they're less able to correct, prevent or end their child's behaviour if a meltdown is incoming.
I wonder if there's a little compassion there for them, and their right to be in a public place.
Shrugs.
I have a degree of empathyfor people whose children have a meltdown, been there myself & it can be hideous when all eyes are on you, judging how you're going to handle the situation. If I couldn't placate my child in a timely manner I would remove myself and them from the table until they had calmed down enough to return.
But there are some people who will not (under any circumstances) parent their offspring, they just simply carry on regardless of others.
I get that. And I made the point of referring to children with a condition as it may pull people's thinking up. But parenting full stop is hard work whether the child has additional conditions or not. To be honest, I still feel that I don't know what on earth is or isn't going on for someone else and I can remove myself if I need to, if I'm aggrieved, so no -- I don't think my desire to not be near loud children in a public space is more important than their right to be there and shouldn't mean they get chucked out.
I don't think there should be any 'chucking out' but I do believe from my own experiences that some parents are totally immune to the disturbance their kids are causing others.
Kids can be a right ole handful at times there's no denying that. However, I can see the difference between someone who is actually parenting (regardless if the child has additional needs) and those who just can't be arsed.
That's the point I'm making.
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I've only ever once been somewhere once when children were screaming and not being given attention and I just told my children to turn around and ignore.
It depends where you go. There's places local to me I wouldn't go to with my two when they were little if I wanted a quiet family meal yet if I was with friends and their children id go.
Kids are kids and yes some more behaved than others but hey that's life I guess. |
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If the parents are doing bugger all to see why they are crying yes or if they are trying to stop a tantrum and can't.
We must have all been there with a toddler throwing a strop, but the last thing I would do was stay where they are having that strop, even if it was to just take them outside to calm down.
Failing that chuck em all in the cellar while I eat my tea in peace. |
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"NO. they are CHILDREN FFS. Throw the parents out for not being able to control their children. Any dumb nut can have a child but not every person can raise one. It's the parents fault not the child's.
Just a slight point of order, if you keep throwing all the parents out you could end up with a lot of children! Possibly best to throw them all out together
We need a skip. "
I was assuming the parents would be told to leave with their screaming kid.
I can imagine the child being outside, looking longingly at the plates of food through the window, tears rolling down it's eyes. |
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"I don't recall ever being in a restaurant where someone has ignored a screaming child.
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Ok wrong words. Not literally screaming, misbehaving and acting up. |
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No not at all. Maybe instead of people giving the parent a hard time they should be more sympathetic. Ok some parents parenting skills are questionable but I have an autistic child and his melt downs can be at any time for any reason. It's not his fault or my fault if he has a melt down but I can ensure being asked to leave or giving me and my child a hard time about things is not going to improve the situation. |
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"Ay up. ...we've got the school teacher in here sorting the naughty kids out
Sounds like there's one or two who are not parents as well, probably just "aunties" who occasionally take their charming characterful wards to luncheon
Ah but by that token, you then have no "right" to have an opinion on anyone other than you, Doc.
"Calm down Dear" it's only a thread!
I'm perfectly calm. That's quite a patronising assumption to think I'm not just enjoying making my opinion on the forum on a thread that's interested me. Still, doesn't surprise me. "
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"Should kids be chucked out of eating places if they won't stop screaming???! "
Not a fan of screaming kids...
Would rather not have to hear shouting and kids kicking off whilst I'm trying to enjoy myself. My own opinion anyway x |
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"Ay up. ...we've got the school teacher in here sorting the naughty kids out
Sounds like there's one or two who are not parents as well, probably just "aunties" who occasionally take their charming characterful wards to luncheon
Ah but by that token, you then have no "right" to have an opinion on anyone other than you, Doc.
"Calm down Dear" it's only a thread!
I'm perfectly calm. That's quite a patronising assumption to think I'm not just enjoying making my opinion on the forum on a thread that's interested me. Still, doesn't surprise me.
"Boo to you with knobs on!" "
Stop acting like a...what did you call them..."little shit"... |
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If the parents are handling it, fair enough, shit happens.
If they are blissfully carrying on like nothing is happening, I'd be asking a member of staff to have a word.
It isn't my position to interact with the parents, but is the establishments 'duty' to make sure their patrons are happy.
That should include dealing with difficult situations such as this. |
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I remember getting asked to leave from my local steakhouse as my then 1 year old was crying and screaming.
I did try explain she had reflux and it was just her belly hurting and once shed had some of her bottle she would calm down.
I can understand it annoys people but at a certain age its just is a thing that happens. |
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I HAVE A PLAN....
map out all the tables and chairs and allow everyone to select a chair and give an electric shock to whoever is annoying. Increase the shock if more people select the chair....
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"I HAVE A PLAN....
map out all the tables and chairs and allow everyone to select a chair and give an electric shock to whoever is annoying. Increase the shock if more people select the chair....
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Think that's how the Simpsons got a new tv from Dr Marvin? |
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"Should kids be chucked out of eating places if they won't stop screaming???! "
Before that happens their parents should have already removed them. If that doesn't happen then yes, boot them out. |
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"This rule does not apply between the age of 2 1/2 to 4. They never effing listen anyway so expect it.
My son is almost 2 almost 3 and he's a good lad. If I tell him no to something he wants he'll sulk and lay down but he's never thrown a tantrum no matter how tired he is or how much he wants it. I'm lucky that I feel comfatable taking him anywhere.
But there's still a few years for that to happen so I'm fully aware it's coming "
Be patient, it will happen. |
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After enduring a day in Nottingham yesterday with three kids under 5 years old I can officially say I do not like little people. We was in Annie's burger shack when my nieces little 3 year old kick off big time. It was so embarrassing. People staring at us and it was so uncomfortable. In the end I had to take him outside and get down to his level and give him a stern warning, for what good it did as 10 mins later he kicked off again. It's safe to say I shall never dine out again with little people. |
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" As long as we can have the same rule for obnoxious adults! "
I agree with this obnoxious adults drive me crazy same as ignorant ones and ones with no manners they should all be lined up and shot lol |
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