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By *ofakind OP Couple
over a year ago
Running with Monkeys |
"I have mine, what do you want to know?"
How much roughly i have to pay one for 5 hours on a friday or saturday night?
Im thinking about a bar maids in bikinis night and looking at roughly how much its going to cost me |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have mine as well and I also resemble that remark lol.
To gain a license you have to go to college for 2 days !!!!.
To the op you should go into your local town centre for a drink and look for a door supervisor that takes your fancy and ask him if he would be interested !!!
I am sure he would say yes lol
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"I have mine as well and I also resemble that remark lol.
To gain a license you have to go to college for 2 days !!!!.
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Sorry to correct you, but to get a licence for the first time, it is a 4 day course.
A 2 day course is for the refresher. |
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"I think it's the licence that you need to be a 'door supervisor' more commonly known as 'bouncers' or 'thugs'
Thats the one  "
Eviction technicians....
You have to enjoy fighting in order to be able to qualify.. |
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By *TUNNAWoman
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I have mine, what do you want to know?
How much roughly i have to pay one for 5 hours on a friday or saturday night?
Im thinking about a bar maids in bikinis night and looking at roughly how much its going to cost me"
oh ur looking for a steward?
u can pay anything from £10 an hour
all depents on they'll experience
hope thats a help,,need 2 know more
just pm me xx
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"ooh big burly bouncers with shoulders like barn doors!! Drool
i dont have barn doors lol
Depends where you look...X
i have very nice shoulders
nor do i look likew a thug xx"
*drool*  |
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By *TUNNAWoman
over a year ago
glasgow |
"Im still not sure if a bar maids in bikini night would work? any staff and door staff would have to come out of my pocket  "
no if u charge for the venue an i dont
think the venue would allow a bar maids
in bikini night but thats something u
can look into xx |
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By *TUNNAWoman
over a year ago
glasgow |
"ooh big burly bouncers with shoulders like barn doors!! Drool
i dont have barn doors lol
Depends where you look...X
i have very nice shoulders
nor do i look likew a thug xx
*drool* "
lol drool drool xx |
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By *ofakind OP Couple
over a year ago
Running with Monkeys |
"Im still not sure if a bar maids in bikini night would work? any staff and door staff would have to come out of my pocket
no if u charge for the venue an i dont
think the venue would allow a bar maids
in bikini night but thats something u
can look into xx"
Its my own pub lol x |
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"I have mine as well and I also resemble that remark lol.
To gain a license you have to go to college for 2 days !!!!.
To the op you should go into your local town centre for a drink and look for a door supervisor that takes your fancy and ask him if he would be interested !!!
I am sure he would say yes lol
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oh dear its not a two day course, it shold be 38 hours up wards |
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"I have mine, what do you want to know?
How much roughly i have to pay one for 5 hours on a friday or saturday night?
Im thinking about a bar maids in bikinis night and looking at roughly how much its going to cost me
oh ur looking for a steward?
u can pay anything from £10 an hour
all depents on they'll experience
hope thats a help,,need 2 know more
just pm me xx
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what sort of society do we live in where a violent thug or criminal who's done a 10 hour course earns more than a highly skilled joiner who has been to college for 3 years lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have mine, what do you want to know?
How much roughly i have to pay one for 5 hours on a friday or saturday night?
Im thinking about a bar maids in bikinis night and looking at roughly how much its going to cost me
oh ur looking for a steward?
u can pay anything from £10 an hour
all depents on they'll experience
hope thats a help,,need 2 know more
just pm me xx
what sort of society do we live in where a violent thug or criminal who's done a 10 hour course earns more than a highly skilled joiner who has been to college for 3 years lol"
Maybe that "violent thug" is also a skilled joiner, or some other trade or profession?
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what sort of society do we live in where a violent thug or criminal who's done a 10 hour course earns more than a highly skilled joiner who has been to college for 3 years lol
Maybe that "violent thug" is also a skilled joiner, or some other trade or profession?
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Indeed...lots of ordinary blokes do it for the extra money (and because they like a ruck of course) and I dont think you can get a licence if you have form.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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not any more
most companies are asking for you to obtain a license;
in some areas bar staff are also being ask to obtain the License.
an the cost is very high (£250)
when you do the training an pass the 4 exams, you have the license for 3 years then do it all again. so the thugs at the door bouncers or other names it wont last for very long |
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By *crum30Man
over a year ago
stockport |
_ofakind you will be looking at about £60 for the night per man on a fri or sat.
As for being thugs ive been involved in the security industry for nearly 20 yrs and hold both a firearms and shotgun licence!! Would not get these if i had any convictions over the years! |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"not any more
most companies are asking for you to obtain a license;
in some areas bar staff are also being ask to obtain the License.
an the cost is very high (£250)
when you do the training an pass the 4 exams, you have the license for 3 years then do it all again. so the thugs at the door bouncers or other names it wont last for very long"
In reality, it is now MANDATORY for all Security officers to have an SIA Licence. So too, must Wheel Clampers, CCTV system Operators and other sectors of security workers.
The cost of each category licence is at least £299, though may companies pay for it on behalf of their personnel. A number of companies however, retrieve the costs involved via deductions from monthly pay, so you end up paying for it eventually.
I note what you say about Bar Staff being asked to get a Licence. That is totally separate, nothing to do with with the SIA, but it is all covered by the Licensing Laws. I hold a Personal Licence, valid until 2015.
Back to SIA Licences; anyone with a criminal record cannot have an SIA Licence, as part of the application process involves Police and CRB checks.
One last point is that the Security Industry is trying very hard to eradicate the terms of "THUG" and "BOUNCER", when relating to Door Supervisors and Door Staff.
To many in the profession, and I hold an SIA Licence, the use of those two words is, sorry to say it, insulting.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"people applying with a criminal record can gain a license from the SIA, but may have to inter_iew or porve worthyness
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no they cant
sia license board will check first |
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"people applying with a criminal record can gain a license from the SIA, but may have to inter_iew or porve worthyness
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Sorry, you are incorrect!
The main reason the SIA Licensing process was brought in was to ensure that the Security Industry was rid of either Owners and Directors or the employees themselves who had criminal records.
If you have a record, it isn't a case of proving your worthiness, either as an Owner or as an employee; the end of the matter is YOU DON'T GET A LICENCE, period!
If you are found working in the Security Industry without having any appopriate Licence, you can be arrested and fined heavily. Employers who use non-Licenced personnel can also be fined heavily and they will gain their own criminal record too.
For the poster, thanks for the point showing the individual costs. Yes, the course is separate at £250, (although I believe it may have increased lately) and the Licence is £300 (yeah, call me a liar for a quid's differnce ) |
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"people applying with a criminal record can gain a license from the SIA, but may have to inter_iew or porve worthyness
Sorry, you are incorrect!
The main reason the SIA Licensing process was brought in was to ensure that the Security Industry was rid of either Owners and Directors or the employees themselves who had criminal records.
If you have a record, it isn't a case of proving your worthiness, either as an Owner or as an employee; the end of the matter is YOU DON'T GET A LICENCE, period!
If you are found working in the Security Industry without having any appopriate Licence, you can be arrested and fined heavily. Employers who use non-Licenced personnel can also be fined heavily and they will gain their own criminal record too.
For the poster, thanks for the point showing the individual costs. Yes, the course is separate at £250, (although I believe it may have increased lately) and the Licence is £300 (yeah, call me a liar for a quid's differnce )"
Hmm, i have a police record and i managed to get a licence.
Walking on the moon, i'm over it. |
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By *crum30Man
over a year ago
stockport |
francine stan no such thing as a shotgun licence??? please check again ive both and its far easier to obtain a shotgun rather than a firearms licence!!
I also hold both door supervisor and cctv licences which both cost £250 every 3 years to renew |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Sorry guys i was only enquiring because i wanted to hold i barmaids in bikinis night lol "
See what you've done... bloody trouble maker!!!
Best get security... it sounds like it's gonna kick-off  |
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"I think it's the licence that you need to be a 'door supervisor' more commonly known as 'bouncers' or 'thugs'
That description is now way out of date."
Indeed it is... they are now security personnel, ma' homies, the bro's, the shit-house on the door and that fat necked wanker! |
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if you have criminal record you can hold a lincense, you have a probation period, and if are investigated/aressted whilst on this probabtion, without question or answer the SIA revoke the license, but yes you can hold a license if you have a 'scared' history
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am sure they are all law abiding citizens....
Who like fights..."
train door staff do not like fights
if they fight like animals, they give the license premises a bad name;
it wont go down nicely with the police either.
and ofcourse to the public who wants to drink in there
"shotgun certificate
firearms arms license"
there is no such thing
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"Am sure they are all law abiding citizens....
Who like fights...
train door staff do not like fights
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Then why do the job then?..if you didnt like doing something you would avoid having to do it.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Am sure they are all law abiding citizens....
Who like fights...
train door staff do not like fights
Then why do the job then?..if you didnt like doing something you would avoid having to do it.."
we stop them not start them  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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""shotgun certificate
firearms arms license"
there is no such thing
Afraid there is my friend
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maybe there is
but not with an sia license which is completely different |
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By *waymanMan
over a year ago
newcastle |
"I have mine, what do you want to know?
How much roughly i have to pay one for 5 hours on a friday or saturday night?
Im thinking about a bar maids in bikinis night and looking at roughly how much its going to cost me
oh ur looking for a steward?
u can pay anything from £10 an hour
all depents on they'll experience
hope thats a help,,need 2 know more
just pm me xx
what sort of society do we live in where a violent thug or criminal who's done a 10 hour course earns more than a highly skilled joiner who has been to college for 3 years lol"
Good stuff that - I've handed my licence back but I don't think I fit your description anyway. |
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By *waymanMan
over a year ago
newcastle |
"not any more
most companies are asking for you to obtain a license;
in some areas bar staff are also being ask to obtain the License.
an the cost is very high (£250)
when you do the training an pass the 4 exams, you have the license for 3 years then do it all again. so the thugs at the door bouncers or other names it wont last for very long
In reality, it is now MANDATORY for all Security officers to have an SIA Licence. So too, must Wheel Clampers, CCTV system Operators and other sectors of security workers.
The cost of each category licence is at least £299, though may companies pay for it on behalf of their personnel. A number of companies however, retrieve the costs involved via deductions from monthly pay, so you end up paying for it eventually.
I note what you say about Bar Staff being asked to get a Licence. That is totally separate, nothing to do with with the SIA, but it is all covered by the Licensing Laws. I hold a Personal Licence, valid until 2015.
Back to SIA Licences; anyone with a criminal record cannot have an SIA Licence, as part of the application process involves Police and CRB checks.
One last point is that the Security Industry is trying very hard to eradicate the terms of "THUG" and "BOUNCER", when relating to Door Supervisors and Door Staff.
To many in the profession, and I hold an SIA Licence, the use of those two words is, sorry to say it, insulting.
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I think you;ve missed the point.
Round here police often ask for 2*SIA licence holder on the premises for late night drinking - pubs get bar staff to get a n SIA licence so they don't have to pay separately for door supervisors.
The personal licence under the licensing act is only necessary for someone who is acting as DPS. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"not any more
most companies are asking for you to obtain a license;
in some areas bar staff are also being ask to obtain the License.
an the cost is very high (£250)
when you do the training an pass the 4 exams, you have the license for 3 years then do it all again. so the thugs at the door bouncers or other names it wont last for very long
In reality, it is now MANDATORY for all Security officers to have an SIA Licence. So too, must Wheel Clampers, CCTV system Operators and other sectors of security workers.
The cost of each category licence is at least £299, though may companies pay for it on behalf of their personnel. A number of companies however, retrieve the costs involved via deductions from monthly pay, so you end up paying for it eventually.
I note what you say about Bar Staff being asked to get a Licence. That is totally separate, nothing to do with with the SIA, but it is all covered by the Licensing Laws. I hold a Personal Licence, valid until 2015.
Back to SIA Licences; anyone with a criminal record cannot have an SIA Licence, as part of the application process involves Police and CRB checks.
One last point is that the Security Industry is trying very hard to eradicate the terms of "THUG" and "BOUNCER", when relating to Door Supervisors and Door Staff.
To many in the profession, and I hold an SIA Licence, the use of those two words is, sorry to say it, insulting.
I think you;ve missed the point.
Round here police often ask for 2*SIA licence holder on the premises for late night drinking - pubs get bar staff to get a n SIA licence so they don't have to pay separately for door supervisors.
The personal licence under the licensing act is only necessary for someone who is acting as DPS."
sorry to say in most bars an clubs in scotland
have sia door supervisors.
as well as bar staff. so for the police asking for them must produce it if not they will get fine
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By *ENGUYMan
over a year ago
Hull |
"sorry to say in most bars an clubs in scotland
have sia door supervisors.
as well as bar staff. so for the police asking for them must produce it if not they will get fine
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Obviously, there may well be differences between how English and Scottish licnsed premises operate.
When I was operating my Bar in Essex, I only needed an SIA Door Supervisor on, when I had functions with non-residents attending. For normal everyday Pub workings, Door Supervisors aren't required, unless it is say Friday to Sunday night opening hours, when patrnage is potentially much higher.
The point you raise about Police asking to see Licences, that is an SIA ruling. The Licence must be produced if requested not only by the Police, but to SIA Inspectors who do travel around the UK and make unannounced checks on all premises. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I have mine, what do you want to know?
How much roughly i have to pay one for 5 hours on a friday or saturday night?
Im thinking about a bar maids in bikinis night and looking at roughly how much its going to cost me"
And why not big hunky barmen in budgie smugglers 
tight fitting ones |
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By *waymanMan
over a year ago
newcastle |
"sorry to say in most bars an clubs in scotland
have sia door supervisors.
as well as bar staff. so for the police asking for them must produce it if not they will get fine
Obviously, there may well be differences between how English and Scottish licnsed premises operate.
When I was operating my Bar in Essex, I only needed an SIA Door Supervisor on, when I had functions with non-residents attending. For normal everyday Pub workings, Door Supervisors aren't required, unless it is say Friday to Sunday night opening hours, when patrnage is potentially much higher.
The point you raise about Police asking to see Licences, that is an SIA ruling. The Licence must be produced if requested not only by the Police, but to SIA Inspectors who do travel around the UK and make unannounced checks on all premises."
It varies from place to place, depending on the police and the licensing authority. A common police tactic here is to tell the premises licensee he'll face a premises re_iew if he doesn't employee more dupervisors. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I have my SIA and am neither a thug or a bouncer. Always credited for my ability to diffuse with wit,friendliness and assertiveness without the need to massage my ego.
Don't judge us all eh x |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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And to the charming lady that would have difficulty getting through a door the option to reply to the poster was utilised. You had no need to block me, you're safe. Very safe in fact.
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