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By *ylan11 OP Man
over a year ago
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"No such thing as selflessness, so I would say people help others to make themselves feel better."
Probably so but how about people who like sharing there knowledge, is that for the greater good or the fact that they know ? |
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"No such thing as selflessness, so I would say people help others to make themselves feel better.
Probably so but how about people who like sharing there knowledge, is that for the greater good or the fact that they know ? "
"People who LIKE sharing their knowledge"
There, you've answered your own question. |
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By *ylan11 OP Man
over a year ago
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"No such thing as selflessness, so I would say people help others to make themselves feel better.
Probably so but how about people who like sharing there knowledge, is that for the greater good or the fact that they know ?
"People who LIKE sharing their knowledge"
There, you've answered your own question."
Funny enough I thought I did but I still posted  |
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I help people if I can because I've had some really really low points in my life and when someone helped asking for nothing in return it made me extremely greatful and appreciative.
So now when I help it's not to make me feel anything..its purely because I know what difference a little bit of kindness can make to someone and their life. |
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By *ylan11 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I help people if I can because I've had some really really low points in my life and when someone helped asking for nothing in return it made me extremely greatful and appreciative.
So now when I help it's not to make me feel anything..its purely because I know what difference a little bit of kindness can make to someone and their life."
From what you have said makes you a legend |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I help people because it makes me feel good. We both benefit.
Hope you didn't mind me mentioning your post x"
Not at all. I like it when discussions grow x |
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I don't think I've read the thread.
I've some uncertainty over whether people do anything for nothing - in so far as our behaviors are purposeful. We seek to gain something by doing thing, so the jury is out on altruism.
Obviously as someone who is saintly, I may be the exception to the rule. 
Much of the payoff from our actions is a change in our state - how we get to feel. We give something, such as food to a starving person and gain relief from our discomfort, for example. Or we feel good, perhaps by reinforcing our belief in yourself as a decent person.
We often feel dissonance when something isn't right - so making amends gives us relief.
I enjoy giving to others - which likely means that what I do isn't altruistic. It's somewhat habitual, as I do it frequently - drug addicts still get their payoffs, however long they've taken drugs. But the reward can appear weaker, prompting further repetition.
Some thoughts to consider |
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If helping makes a person feel good why wouldn't they do it. Isn't that how karma works? It isn't about bad things happening to bad people but more about how you feel about yourself and the energy you create around you. |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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a lot of people help others because they've needed help themselves and empathy makes them remember how that felt and they didn't enjoy that feeling and so don't want others to feel the same as they did. this is the main reason why it's thought why those with the least tend to be the most generous.
some help others hoping that when they need help someone will give it to them, these people are the most likely to be disappointed, especially as takers are naturally drawn to them. although when you look at carers in general and more personal relationships the consensus tends to be that people look after family, parents mainly, because they feel it's their duty as their parents looked after them at one time. so, i think when someone has helped you personally you do tend to feel some obligation to return that favour.
some people do tend to feel obligated to help those less fortunate as well, just because they can. i think it's again down to a sense of duty. on the whole all animals tend to look after their own when able to and when not able to they're kind of fucked and we understand this.
so i think when something affects someone personally they have the deepest understanding of how another person in that situation feels. it's why i often think there should be different criteria for those running the country, in that instead of choosing those who have had a privileged and possibly sheltered life we should choose those with more experience of every hardship any human can go through, or at least make it part of their training to personally experience that for several years.
karma is bullshit. you live in the here and now, and although i believe in cause and effect i do not believe some mystical force is gonna reward you for being good and punish you for being bad.
i think everything we do has incentives, because we're always searching for answers to justify ourselves. |
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"a lot of people help others because they've needed help themselves and empathy makes them remember how that felt and they didn't enjoy that feeling and so don't want others to feel the same as they did. this is the main reason why it's thought why those with the least tend to be the most generous.
some help others hoping that when they need help someone will give it to them, these people are the most likely to be disappointed, especially as takers are naturally drawn to them. although when you look at carers in general and more personal relationships the consensus tends to be that people look after family, parents mainly, because they feel it's their duty as their parents looked after them at one time. so, i think when someone has helped you personally you do tend to feel some obligation to return that favour.
some people do tend to feel obligated to help those less fortunate as well, just because they can. i think it's again down to a sense of duty. on the whole all animals tend to look after their own when able to and when not able to they're kind of fucked and we understand this.
so i think when something affects someone personally they have the deepest understanding of how another person in that situation feels. it's why i often think there should be different criteria for those running the country, in that instead of choosing those who have had a privileged and possibly sheltered life we should choose those with more experience of every hardship any human can go through, or at least make it part of their training to personally experience that for several years.
karma is bullshit. you live in the here and now, and although i believe in cause and effect i do not believe some mystical force is gonna reward you for being good and punish you for being bad.
i think everything we do has incentives, because we're always searching for answers to justify ourselves. "
What she said with brass knobs on. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I help because I have the knowledge and empathy to understand what they're going through. Knowing someone isn't going to feel how I once did is all the thanks I need. X |
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We like to help because we have a very early and very well negotiated club card point deal. Tesco completely hate the fact that we are super nice and super helpful but we take our satisfaction in bananas, aubergines and K Y jelly lol. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"After reading so many good posts on the help topic , I just want to understand why we humans do so , is it for reward or for selflessness? Do you do it for praise or for love ? "
It feels good to help others, especially those starting out on the scene.
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