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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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Mere simulation of sex. Definitely not the real thing .. at least for alot of us out there .. much more than those who dare to admit it, if I can hazard a guess.
Also, there's a difference between
Safe sex and sex with a condom.
As controversial as it may seem,
I think alot of sensually intelligent,experienced and level headed people are more than capable of having very (safe sex) without condoms.
Care/dare to share your thoughts?
All welcome
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Even those who passionately disagree and prefer to simulate sex rather than enjoy real sex and manage the risks as you do with many things in life.
Gaz
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over a year ago
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Sex without a condom is amazing yes and is/would be my first choice as I'm aware of my sexual health. Yet how can I be sure 100% of the person I'm meeting? ... Real answer is I can't so I look after my own sexual health until I am confident |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Mere simulation of sex. Definitely not the real thing .. at least for alot of us out there .. much more than those who dare to admit it, if I can hazard a guess.
Also, there's a difference between
Safe sex and sex with a condom.
As controversial as it may seem,
I think alot of sensually intelligent,experienced and level headed people are more than capable of having very (safe sex) without condoms.
Care/dare to share your thoughts?
All welcome
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Even those who passionately disagree and prefer to simulate sex rather than enjoy real sex and manage the risks as you do with many things in life.
Gaz
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Masturbation is also a simulation. Doesn't mean it doesn't feel bloody good though . |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"A preventive for baby's and stds ??"
And also always a preventive for
Enhanced neural stimulation,proper intimacy, hormone inducing chemical exchanges and a host of other carnal blessings that mother nature has kindly bestowed on us mortals
That even when the risk of (babies and STD's ) is minimal or non-existent.
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over a year ago
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"can I ask how you practice your way of safe sex without condoms?"
Yes, quite. Maybe he uses the withdrawal method, eh!  
When the very nature of being a swinger in a very open sexualised nature, means you are very likely to have sex with people who a) you do not know a great deal about their sexual past and activity, and b) they themselves are very likely to be active with other swingers who... see point a) again! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You must be doing it wrong. I manage to have real sex using a condom
I do it with my (nerves).
The Polyurethane or Latex in the condom gets in the way.
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If 0.044mm of latex covering 6 inches of your anatomy is ruining sex, you might be doing something wrong. |
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"can I ask how you practice your way of safe sex without condoms?
Yes, quite. Maybe he uses the withdrawal method, eh!
When the very nature of being a swinger in a very open sexualised nature, means you are very likely to have sex with people who a) you do not know a great deal about their sexual past and activity, and b) they themselves are very likely to be active with other swingers who... see point a) again!"
exactly this!  |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Goodness. That was informative. I'll stick to simulated sex if that's all the same to you. "
My pleasure. Needs differ for sure.
Some are happy with the starters ..
Others prefer the full course ..
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?"
Neither are the symptoms of, or the prospect of having a potentially dangerous STI.
Hardly responsible or mature avoiding what takes less than 20 seconds and ok isn't as pleasant, but I would personally rather be safe |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Yeah, you tell me of one man who while erect and naked in bed with a naked women is going to practice stimulated sex!"
Simply put, As long as there is no direct skin to skin contact that allows the maximum interaction between skin nerve endings, it isn't natural or complete sexual contact. You can call it sex, but surely it's not as sexual as natural sex ,which applies maximum neural excitations in your brain via electrochemical signals not some abstract sociocultural paranoia about health risks. |
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"Yeah, you tell me of one man who while erect and naked in bed with a naked women is going to practice stimulated sex!
Simply put, As long as there is no direct skin to skin contact that allows the maximum interaction between skin nerve endings, it isn't natural or complete sexual contact. You can call it sex, but surely it's not as sexual as natural sex ,which applies maximum neural excitations in your brain via electrochemical signals not some abstract sociocultural paranoia about health risks."
some people dont half come out with a load of bollocks to get out of wearing a condom.
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?"
Are you not worried about catching a disease? How do you know you don't have something if you never use protection? |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"Sex without a condom is amazing yes and is/would be my first choice as I'm aware of my sexual health. Yet how can I be sure 100% of the person I'm meeting? ... Real answer is I can't so I look after my own sexual health until I am confident "
Thanks for agreeing with the obvious that no one wants to notice.
I hereby do not recommend or condone random rampant mating in the wild.
All I am saying is be a good judge of character, use your judgement, minimise the number of your partners, be selective, use time to get to know, physically control yourself and set your boundaries, know your body and take good care of it before, during and after the act and you should be able to have
Safe sex without a piece of latex
Confiscating the pleasant extremes of your pleasure.
Is that unreasonable?
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yeah, you tell me of one man who while erect and naked in bed with a naked women is going to practice stimulated sex!
Simply put, As long as there is no direct skin to skin contact that allows the maximum interaction between skin nerve endings, it isn't natural or complete sexual contact. You can call it sex, but surely it's not as sexual as natural sex ,which applies maximum neural excitations in your brain via electrochemical signals not some abstract sociocultural paranoia about health risks."
I've orgasmed using condoms. It may not be as pleasurable as natural sex, I will give you that. But I would rather slightly diminish my sexual pleasure, to attempt to safeguard my sexual health. I've had slip ups in the past. The anxiety and worry surrounding waiting for test results, is not worth a few minutes/ hours of having my skin nerve endings stimulated.... On the plus side, if what you say is correct, I'm on a let less than I thought! Practically a virgin! |
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"..........abstract sociocultural paranoia about health risks."
Abstract??
Here's some abstract statistics for you:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/617025/Health_Protection_Report_STIs_NCSP_2017.pdf |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sex without a condom is amazing yes and is/would be my first choice as I'm aware of my sexual health. Yet how can I be sure 100% of the person I'm meeting? ... Real answer is I can't so I look after my own sexual health until I am confident
Thanks for agreeing with the obvious that no one wants to notice.
I hereby do not recommend or condone random rampant mating in the wild.
All I am saying is be a good judge of character, use your judgement, minimise the number of your partners, be selective, use time to get to know, physically control yourself and set your boundaries, know your body and take good care of it before, during and after the act and you should be able to have
Safe sex without a piece of latex
Confiscating the pleasant extremes of your pleasure.
Is that unreasonable?
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I kinda see what your saying but I'm stil a bit  |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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sex is, or should be, more than a condom covered dick going inside of a vagina, so i don't agree.
i do prefer bareback, that's why i won't meet now. cba with bag sex or NSA sex or sex with those who would put me at risk of STI if we went bareback. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"sex is, or should be, more than a condom covered dick going inside of a vagina, so i don't agree.
i do prefer bareback, that's why i won't meet now. cba with bag sex or NSA sex or sex with those who would put me at risk of STI if we went bareback."
So basically no sex? As all of the above contradict each other. I get what your saying by the way |
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By *orum TrollWoman
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"sex is, or should be, more than a condom covered dick going inside of a vagina, so i don't agree.
i do prefer bareback, that's why i won't meet now. cba with bag sex or NSA sex or sex with those who would put me at risk of STI if we went bareback.
So basically no sex? As all of the above contradict each other. I get what your saying by the way "
well wearing a condom doesn't mean the sex isn't real, unless all you do is cover your dick and pump away. kissing, foreplay, soft play, afterplay, all that is sex too.
i used to go for soft play only when i felt things were getting out of control for me but now not even that interests me so i stick to myself.
it's rare i've bb with anyone on here either, and only ever with a few really low risk guys. |
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By *orum TrollWoman
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oh i also had bb with a guy who thought it was ok to slip the condom off. i didn't meet him again and was glad to see him whinging about women having STIsa couple of years later, he probably caught one. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?
Are you not worried about catching a disease? How do you know you don't have something if you never use protection?"
I just don't think STD's are as common as people make out. People can role out the statistics but fail to break down that some are far more likely to have one than others. I've always been generally confident that the partner I'm about to do it with is clean and my last STD was clymidea (sp) when I was 15.
This is coming from a single guy who has an average amount of sex and hasn't met any one from here yet though. I can see how the risk would be taken more seriously by people shagging several different people from here or swingers clubs per month though, given that the people they are meeting are also very sexually active, the net is cast wider. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Protected sex is when you dont tell the girl your real name or where you live. Delboy taught me that one 
LOL ...
Couldn't agree more
Legendary wisdom from Delboy here.
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Wronging !! Wtf |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yeah, you tell me of one man who while erect and naked in bed with a naked women is going to practice stimulated sex!
Simply put, As long as there is no direct skin to skin contact that allows the maximum interaction between skin nerve endings, it isn't natural or complete sexual contact. You can call it sex, but surely it's not as sexual as natural sex ,which applies maximum neural excitations in your brain via electrochemical signals not some abstract sociocultural paranoia about health risks."
Such a troll,, |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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Down the rabbit hole 39 wrote:
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I've orgasmed using condoms. It may not be as pleasurable as natural sex, I will give you that. But I would rather slightly diminish my sexual pleasure, to attempt to safeguard my sexual health. I've had slip ups in the past. The anxiety and worry surrounding waiting for test results, is not worth a few minutes/ hours of having my skin nerve endings stimulated.... On the plus side, if what you say is correct, I'm on a let less than I thought! Practically a virgin!
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Thanks for the balanced, well thought out reply. Yes,you are right all considered, the relative peace of mind that comes with simulating sexual intercourse outweighs the the loss in sensual pleasure. Particularly for females in male-female sex.
One way around that is what has already been mentioned earlier on in this thread. Basically why not have real,passionate, thoroughly satisfying sex ... even if much less frequently and with less variety and randomness of partners, instead of plenty of half baked acts of masturbation in vagina.
For alot of us males, the condom is a much more felt problem due to the obvious mechanics of the whole sexual experience.
Glad to know there are women out there more inclined towards the natural way.
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"Down the rabbit hole 39 wrote:
I've orgasmed using condoms. It may not be as pleasurable as natural sex, I will give you that. But I would rather slightly diminish my sexual pleasure, to attempt to safeguard my sexual health. I've had slip ups in the past. The anxiety and worry surrounding waiting for test results, is not worth a few minutes/ hours of having my skin nerve endings stimulated.... On the plus side, if what you say is correct, I'm on a let less than I thought! Practically a virgin!
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Thanks for the balanced, well thought out reply. Yes,you are right all considered, the relative peace of mind that comes with simulating sexual intercourse outweighs the the loss in sensual pleasure. Particularly for females in male-female sex.
One way around that is what has already been mentioned earlier on in this thread. Basically why not have real,passionate, thoroughly satisfying sex ... even if much less frequently and with less variety and randomness of partners, instead of plenty of half baked acts of masturbation in vagina.
For alot of us males, the condom is a much more felt problem due to the obvious mechanics of the whole sexual experience.
Glad to know there are women out there more inclined towards the natural way.
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Thinking of sex with a condom as simulated sex not real sex is as stupid as saying driving a car with a seatbelt on is just pretending to drive choosing not to put your life and health at risk is not a bad thing. If your answer is to sleep with less people to ensure your safety then you obviously don't know the risks involved. however I would like to thank you for making sure that the sensible women on here have crossed you off their list it's one less person to compete with for their attention lol |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"can I ask how you practice your way of safe sex without condoms?
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Thanks
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Safe sex for me begins with doing your best to make sure you have sex with a safe partner. This can be anything from trusting your insticts, knowledge,past experience and judgement to actually demanding to see medical certicates at the other end of the
scale. After all any person with a reasonable amount of common sense can tell the difference between a character probably carrying unwelcome guests and another probaly healthy just by knowing a few facts about them.
On a physical level , self control, having control over your senses,your bodily fluids, your personal hygiene etc.
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?
Are you not worried about catching a disease? How do you know you don't have something if you never use protection?
I just don't think STD's are as common as people make out. People can role out the statistics but fail to break down that some are far more likely to have one than others. I've always been generally confident that the partner I'm about to do it with is clean and my last STD was clymidea (sp) when I was 15.
This is coming from a single guy who has an average amount of sex and hasn't met any one from here yet though. I can see how the risk would be taken more seriously by people shagging several different people from here or swingers clubs per month though, given that the people they are meeting are also very sexually active, the net is cast wider."
While chlamydia may not be a big issue to you it can render a woman sterile.
And given you will have no visible symptoms thats quite a risk to ask a woman to take purely because you want it to feel better |
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"can I ask how you practice your way of safe sex without condoms?
Thanks
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Safe sex for me begins with doing your best to make sure you have sex with a safe partner. This can be anything from trusting your insticts, knowledge,past experience and judgement to actually demanding to see medical certicates at the other end of the
scale. After all any person with a reasonable amount of common sense can tell the difference between a character probably carrying unwelcome guests and another probaly healthy just by knowing a few facts about them.
On a physical level , self control, having control over your senses,your bodily fluids, your personal hygiene etc.
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So your method is litterally "hope for the best"? |
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"can I ask how you practice your way of safe sex without condoms?
Thanks
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Safe sex for me begins with doing your best to make sure you have sex with a safe partner. This can be anything from trusting your insticts, knowledge,past experience and judgement to actually demanding to see medical certicates at the other end of the
scale. After all any person with a reasonable amount of common sense can tell the difference between a character probably carrying unwelcome guests and another probaly healthy just by knowing a few facts about them.
On a physical level , self control, having control over your senses,your bodily fluids, your personal hygiene etc.
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just wondering if you are actually deluded enough to believe what you are saying or if you're just trying to be controversial. |
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?"
I practice safe sex in case the lady I'm seeing has seen people like you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Thanks for agreeing with the obvious that no one wants to notice.
I hereby do not recommend or condone random rampant mating in the wild.
All I am saying is be a good judge of character, use your judgement, minimise the number of your partners, be selective, use time to get to know, physically control yourself and set your boundaries, know your body and take good care of it before, during and after the act and you should be able to have
Safe sex without a piece of latex
Confiscating the pleasant extremes of your pleasure.
Is that unreasonable?
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Not unreasonable at all and it's what I do if I'm honest.
I hardly fuck people compared to most people on here, in 8 years I've fucked 8 people. People that I have taken the time to get to know before I have sex with them. I ask them questions about their sexual health, people are open and honest and want to protect theirs as well. I've had std checks after each person and I've always been fine. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I might be missing the point of the original post so bear with me.
Penetrative sex without a condom is the preferred option between consenting adults who have a clean bill of health and are in a trusting relationship.
I understood there is much more to sex than penetration.
So the options are:
Abstention.
Condoms.
Everything else that does not involve penetration, ejaculation or the sharing of bodily fluids is not sex in your world.
What a dull world that must be.
To be guaranteed 100% safe, you b
need to meet someone, arrange a date at the Sexual Health Clinic, get tested at the same time then stay within sight of each other until the tests come through. Then you are 100% in the clear.
Then you have to stay within sight of each other forever. That is a bit stalkerish.
Unless you then trust that they are not having unprotected sex with anyone else.
The only way to get round this is to lock yourself in a swingers commune where you have to be in quarantine before you enter?
Seems to me that you want bareback because you don't like comdoms and all this is a overelaborate means of justifying it.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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With or without it makes no difference if your having fun your having fun either way. Only difference is using a condom the chances of a std or a child are much less. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I love bareback it's hot as fuck.
But I love not having STDS more.
So if it's a direct toss up between risky business or wrapping it I'll want it wrapping lol x |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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"To be guaranteed 100% safe, you b
need to meet someone, arrange a date at the Sexual Health Clinic, get tested at the same time then stay within sight of each other until the tests come through. Then you are 100% in the clear. "
and neither of you have had sex in the past 6 months. |
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"To be guaranteed 100% safe, you b
need to meet someone, arrange a date at the Sexual Health Clinic, get tested at the same time then stay within sight of each other until the tests come through. Then you are 100% in the clear.
and neither of you have had sex in the past 6 months."
Good point. |
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?"
Shakes head in dis-belief... |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"can I ask how you practice your way of safe sex without condoms?
Yes, quite. Maybe he uses the withdrawal method, eh!
When the very nature of being a swinger in a very open sexualised nature, means you are very likely to have sex with people who a) you do not know a great deal about their sexual past and activity, and b) they themselves are very likely to be active with other swingers who... see point a) again!"
Yes
... Nothing wrong with withdrawl method if you have good control..
Never thought the definition of a (swinging life style) is so set in stone.
How about having sex with people a) You do know (enough) about.
And b) from a) you have deduced that they are not likely to have had sex with people they did not know enough about?
Would that sort of attitude instantly end your status as a (swinger)?
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?
Are you not worried about catching a disease? How do you know you don't have something if you never use protection?
I just don't think STD's are as common as people make out. People can role out the statistics but fail to break down that some are far more likely to have one than others. I've always been generally confident that the partner I'm about to do it with is clean and my last STD was clymidea (sp) when I was 15.
This is coming from a single guy who has an average amount of sex and hasn't met any one from here yet though. I can see how the risk would be taken more seriously by people shagging several different people from here or swingers clubs per month though, given that the people they are meeting are also very sexually active, the net is cast wider."
So you have had an std yet don't think they are that common?! This thread is all kinda of weird.... |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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Funnily enough I have had both varieties of sex and can safely say that whilst fanning about with a condom is probably deeply unsexy, it is the responsible choice if you are going to be having casual sex. Disease doesn't discriminate.
Also, the last time I had unprotected sex, I had a (planned for) daughter 9 months later. |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?"
Thank you.
Lets try and list the cons of wrapping your precious 20000 thousand highly specialised nerve endings in some signal inhibiting piece of Latex.
1. Sensory deprivation: Your nerve endings are specialised for temperature, pressure and touch.
By wrapping them in Latex, you have significantly reduced input to sensory nerves dedicated to temperature and light touch.
2. That annoying fiddling about time trying to wear the glove that usually coincides with the moment of no return when your desire hits the maximum and all you want in this world is for the woman you're with to accept this maddened member of your body and give it some warm welcoming shelter. This
most awkward and intrusive task is
sometimes so off putting that it kills off the moments and the poor man is made to go back to foreplay for a recharge.
3. Aesthetically unpleasant and obscures the natural beauty of a penis with all its details, ridges, bulging veins, swollen glans, lubricant deliciously oozing out declaring your desire and appreciation to your partner etc.
4. The whole clinical feel of the device and the act, when essentially preceded by glove wearing.
5. What you pointed out ..The presumption of guilt until proven innocent.
For all this n more ...
Sex with a condom .. is a good simulation of true sex.
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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2. That annoying fiddling about time trying to wear the glove that usually coincides with the moment of no return when your desire hits the maximum and all you want in this world is for the woman you're with to accept this maddened member of your body and give it some warm welcoming shelter. This
most awkward and intrusive task is
sometimes so off putting that it kills off the moments and the poor man is made to go back to foreplay for a recharge.
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And now we get to the crux of the matter..... |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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If 0.044mm of latex covering 6 inches of your anatomy is ruining sex, you might be doing something wrong."
Here is a quote for you from a good article on sexual health
"Nerves are related to our perception of feelings and emotions. The penis has nerve endings that are thought to control perceptions during intercourse. There are some interesting variations between different people.
Some men and women have considerably more nerve endings of this kind in their genitalia. The number and distribution of these nerves varies. This could account for differences in attitudes toward intercourse between different people.
Others may be peculiar to erotic perception.... There is nevertheless considerable variation between individuals in the number and distribution of these specialized nerve endings, which could account for some of the variation in the degree and localization of erotic sensitivity" |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Nerves are related to our perception of feelings and emotions. The penis has nerve endings that are thought to control perceptions during intercourse."
Great article - Not evidence.
Thought to, not proven to.
It sounds like you spend a hell of a lot of your time justifying why you won't bag up. |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"I don't feel any difference with a condom. I'm thinking it's better for the man. "
I tend to agree with you about it being more of an issue for some males. But then again I have known women who do feel the difference and a few who dislike condoms with passion. |
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I do bareback and I do condoms too. There is no difference for me sexually, except it rather kills the moment when the man gets out of bed and goes and gets a condom from the drawer. Not sure why they don't put a couple under the pillow. XXX |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Sex with a condom is not simulated sex. Putting on some goggles and going into a virtual fanny chamber complete with squirty hoses, sexual noises and piped kipper smells is simulated sex xxx |
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There is some strong pseudo intellectual shit on here!
If you think sex simply revolves around your penis then I feel sorry for anyone that meets you. You complain about having to return to foreplay if you lose your erection putting on a condom, like it's some sort of punishment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?
Are you not worried about catching a disease? How do you know you don't have something if you never use protection?
I just don't think STD's are as common as people make out. People can role out the statistics but fail to break down that some are far more likely to have one than others. I've always been generally confident that the partner I'm about to do it with is clean and my last STD was clymidea (sp) when I was 15.
This is coming from a single guy who has an average amount of sex and hasn't met any one from here yet though. I can see how the risk would be taken more seriously by people shagging several different people from here or swingers clubs per month though, given that the people they are meeting are also very sexually active, the net is cast wider."
I do hope the women you come into contact read this. And spot the irony. |
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"There is some strong pseudo intellectual shit on here!
If you think sex simply revolves around your penis then I feel sorry for anyone that meets you. You complain about having to return to foreplay if you lose your erection putting on a condom, like it's some sort of punishment. "
it takes seconds to put on a condom, it's never broken up play for us on meets and we always have great sex too.
If in any doubt, balance the inconvenience of putting one on Vs living with hjv and take your pick.
Grow up OP and stop trying to justify an irresponsible preference. |
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"Down the rabbit hole 39 wrote:
I've orgasmed using condoms. It may not be as pleasurable as natural sex, I will give you that. But I would rather slightly diminish my sexual pleasure, to attempt to safeguard my sexual health. I've had slip ups in the past. The anxiety and worry surrounding waiting for test results, is not worth a few minutes/ hours of having my skin nerve endings stimulated.... On the plus side, if what you say is correct, I'm on a let less than I thought! Practically a virgin!
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Thanks for the balanced, well thought out reply. Yes,you are right all considered, the relative peace of mind that comes with simulating sexual intercourse outweighs the the loss in sensual pleasure. Particularly for females in male-female sex.
One way around that is what has already been mentioned earlier on in this thread. Basically why not have real,passionate, thoroughly satisfying sex ... even if much less frequently and with less variety and randomness of partners, instead of plenty of half baked acts of masturbation in vagina.
For alot of us males, the condom is a much more felt problem due to the obvious mechanics of the whole sexual experience.
Glad to know there are women out there more inclined towards the natural way.
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ah...it becomes clear...condom droop...bless |
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By (user no longer on site)
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If 0.044mm of latex covering 6 inches of your anatomy is ruining sex, you might be doing something wrong.
Here is a quote for you from a good article on sexual health
"Nerves are related to our perception of feelings and emotions. The penis has nerve endings that are thought to control perceptions during intercourse. There are some interesting variations between different people.
Some men and women have considerably more nerve endings of this kind in their genitalia. The number and distribution of these nerves varies. This could account for differences in attitudes toward intercourse between different people.
Others may be peculiar to erotic perception.... There is nevertheless considerable variation between individuals in the number and distribution of these specialized nerve endings, which could account for some of the variation in the degree and localization of erotic sensitivity""
cite your source please? and i can't see any mention of condom use in this extract? |
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"I've only used a condom once. Even aside from the issues of feeling less and fucking about trying to put it on, I find the fact that she presumes you to probably be diseased a turn off. Hardly intimate, is it?
Are you not worried about catching a disease? How do you know you don't have something if you never use protection?
I just don't think STD's are as common as people make out. People can role out the statistics but fail to break down that some are far more likely to have one than others. I've always been generally confident that the partner I'm about to do it with is clean and my last STD was clymidea (sp) when I was 15.
This is coming from a single guy who has an average amount of sex and hasn't met any one from here yet though. I can see how the risk would be taken more seriously by people shagging several different people from here or swingers clubs per month though, given that the people they are meeting are also very sexually active, the net is cast wider."
ah...the scientific method...i dont believe it, and it hasn't happened to me, so its true... |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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"..........abstract sociocultural paranoia about health risks.
Abstract??
Here's some abstract statistics for you:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/617025/Health_Protection_Report_STIs_NCSP_2017.pdf
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What's abstract isn't the fact that STD's do exist. No one ever claimed that. It's the over-hyped notion that everyone is suspect.
The collective government sponsored social paranoia about a health issue that is much more less significant than the general
perception.
Instead of simply attaching a statistical piece of red herring by way of argument, you should probably spend some time looking at the numbers cited by the study.
420 000 cases of STD's in a population of 65 million people equates to a prevalance of approximately 0.006 % of the population. Hardly the epidemic much warned about. I dare say your statistics actually support my description. It's a collective social paranoia that has little to do with the actual scale of the problem. |
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"..........abstract sociocultural paranoia about health risks.
Abstract??
Here's some abstract statistics for you:
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/617025/Health_Protection_Report_STIs_NCSP_2017.pdf
What's abstract isn't the fact that STD's do exist. No one ever claimed that. It's the over-hyped notion that everyone is suspect.
The collective government sponsored social paranoia about a health issue that is much more less significant than the general
perception.
Instead of simply attaching a statistical piece of red herring by way of argument, you should probably spend some time looking at the numbers cited by the study.
420 000 cases of STD's in a population of 65 million people equates to a prevalance of approximately 0.006 % of the population. Hardly the epidemic much warned about. I dare say your statistics actually support my description. It's a collective social paranoia that has little to do with the actual scale of the problem. "
But that's not the sexually active population is it? That's population as a whole. The problem with statistics is you can adapt them to fit the point you're trying to make.
If you dont want to wear them, crack on, but don't make up pseudo science to try to justify it. |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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If you dont want to wear them, crack on, but don't make up pseudo science to try to justify it. "
Since this forum is on fabswingers.com, not fabsientists.com, I don't see any need to get to the nitty gritty of
inferential statistics, but lets allow a gigantic margin that considers your numerical nitpicking. Say 0.06 % of the sexually active population is infected. My point is still valid. It still truely isn't even remotely the major widespread problem the social paranoia would
have you perceive.
You seem to misuse (pseudo) alot.
This thread isn't claiming to be a scientific thesis. It's just a different take on pseudo-sexual intercourse that I believe is held by a silent/silenced mass of people.
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personally once i have been in a relationship for a while we usually have a collective agreement that there no need to keep wearing them.
When playing im firmly in the camp of "why take the bloody risk" |
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If you dont want to wear them, crack on, but don't make up pseudo science to try to justify it.
Since this forum is on fabswingers.com, not fabsientists.com, I don't see any need to get to the nitty gritty of
inferential statistics, but lets allow a gigantic margin that considers your numerical nitpicking. Say 0.06 % of the sexually active population is infected. My point is still valid. It still truely isn't even remotely the major widespread problem the social paranoia would
have you perceive.
You seem to misuse (pseudo) alot.
This thread isn't claiming to be a scientific thesis. It's just a different take on pseudo-sexual intercourse that I believe is held by a silent/silenced mass of people.
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I fink it makez me look clever, innit.
It's not nit picking to point out that the majority of the 'population' you quote to make your percentage look insignificant is false
Do you also do the market research stats for beauty products as well? They're usually guff too |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Im much happier wearing a condom than not even in a relationship sometimes i wear one sometimes stops making a mess lol but then sometimes i take it off to mess #cum everywhere |
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If you dont want to wear them, crack on, but don't make up pseudo science to try to justify it.
Since this forum is on fabswingers.com, not fabsientists.com, I don't see any need to get to the nitty gritty of
inferential statistics, but lets allow a gigantic margin that considers your numerical nitpicking. Say 0.06 % of the sexually active population is infected. My point is still valid. It still truely isn't even remotely the major widespread problem the social paranoia would
have you perceive.
You seem to misuse (pseudo) alot.
This thread isn't claiming to be a scientific thesis. It's just a different take on pseudo-sexual intercourse that I believe is held by a silent/silenced mass of people.
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you could also look at southern africa where similar crazy attitudes to condom useage exist and hiv runs at 20%+ in the younger population.
Your pseudo science is beyond a joke. |
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over a year ago
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I wouldn't class it as simulated sex as there are other things involved.
I do however now refuse to use condoms. Doesn't mean I cant have sex with someone, it just means no actual penetration unless we're both comfortable. |
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By *rwolfMan
over a year ago
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So let me get this straight for a second...
Amazing foreplay
Put condom on
Slip inside an attractive lady
Have amazing sex
Both orgasm
And you think its simulated?
Or are we talking
Turn on ps4
Put on vr headset? |
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I've read this thread with interest and have come to the following conclusion ...
OP doesn't like condoms so has decided using one makes it pseudo sex, doesn't like foreplay, and thinks the withdrawal method is safe sex ... I'm beginning to suspect this is a wind up.
If he's genuine he's probably not going to be great in bed, so doubt those who want to use protection are missing much.. 
Nita |
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By *azza99 OP Man
over a year ago
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So your method is litterally "hope for the best"?
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Not really. Surprised all you deducted from the actual practical measures I had described is(hope).
Nothing wrong with hope and optimism by the way. But I recommended DO your best, not hope for the best.
Exactly what you do when you drive your car everyday. A calculated and measured excercise in risk taking. Some of us do not believe in the possible existence of such a thing as an enjoyable, adventurous 100% risk-free life.
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So your method is litterally "hope for the best"?
Not really. Surprised all you deducted from the actual practical measures I had described is(hope).
Nothing wrong with hope and optimism by the way. But I recommended DO your best, not hope for the best.
Exactly what you do when you drive your car everyday. A calculated and measured excercise in risk taking. Some of us do not believe in the possible existence of such a thing as an enjoyable, adventurous 100% risk-free life.
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Except a car has tonnes of safety features in it to reduce the inherent risks.... Much like wearing condoms when having sex with people. |
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"Except a car has tonnes of safety features in it to reduce the inherent risks.... Much like wearing condoms when having sex with people. "
There was a safety campaign for motorbike helmets and condoms with the line "Ride Safely", bit like the "Clunk Click Every Trip" for cars.
Some people still don't use seatbelts, some no condoms - I don't risk not using either |
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"Mere simulation of sex. Definitely not the real thing .. at least for alot of us out there .. much more than those who dare to admit it, if I can hazard a guess.
Also, there's a difference between
Safe sex and sex with a condom.
As controversial as it
I think alot of sensually intelligent,experienced and level headed people are more than capable of having very (safe sex) without condoms.
Care/dare to share your thoughts?
All welcome
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Even those who passionately disagree and prefer to simulate sex rather than enjoy real sex and manage the risks as you do with many things in life.
Gaz
Masturbation is also a simulation. Doesn't mean it doesn't feel bloody good though . "
Someone else Masturbating you can be erotic and satisfying as well. |
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