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over a year ago
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So let me set the scene, my beautiful daughter H is a goth. When she goes out she's dressed head to toe in black. Often she teams this with gothic jewellery and make up. Now I love my daughter and I let her express herself exactly how she wishes. I don't care what she wears or how much white and black make up she wants to wear as long as she's happy. She's only 13 but life moves so quickly that in another 5 years she may not be able to express herself as she wants too cos she maybe in university or have a job that means she has to tone down her look.
Today whilst we were out H was photographed by an adult without her permission. This isn't the first time this has happened but it is the first time it's happened whilst I have been with her. H isn't arsed about people taking her pic but tbh I was pissed off about it. I was pissed off because I though it was fuckin rude! How would you like it if I took a pic of your child without permission? And why didn't you ask permission? And why do you want a pic of my goth kid? To put on the internet? To mock?
I kinda feel I shouldn't be pissed off cos if she looks so alternative then she's got to put up with attention. And yes I get that. H doesn't give a shit. She thinks it's funny n she pulled a silly rock pose.
She's a cool kid n I love her but please for the love of god if you wanna take a pic of an alternative kid just ask them. They don't bite dispite the fake teeth n blood.  kids will be kids. Adults should behave like adults and learn some fuckin manners.
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over a year ago
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Sorry but I would have gone mad. Nowadays there is so much people can do to photos. If she'd have been asked then fair enough but to do so without permission at her age is very rude. X |
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"Sorry but I would have gone mad. Nowadays there is so much people can do to photos. If she'd have been asked then fair enough but to do so without permission at her age is very rude. X "
That's exactly it. Just ask especially as I was with her! Xx |
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over a year ago
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police "
I did ponder that as there were local bobbies there but H didn't want me causing a scene. She doesn't care it's mummy whose seen her arse.  xx |
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I think your daughters appearance and fashion choice are irrelevant.
The question I'd be asking is why someone took a picture of my 13 year old daughter?
You don't have to be impolite, simply say excuse me why are you photographing my juvenile daughter?
People can be interesting to look at and it may be completely innocent, but if you feel offended that challenge the behaviour tactfully. |
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police "
Although I do agree with you but it isn't against the law to take photos of anyone in a public place without permission. |
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"So let me set the scene, my beautiful daughter H is a goth. When she goes out she's dressed head to toe in black. Often she teams this with gothic jewellery and make up. Now I love my daughter and I let her express herself exactly how she wishes. I don't care what she wears or how much white and black make up she wants to wear as long as she's happy. She's only 13 but life moves so quickly that in another 5 years she may not be able to express herself as she wants too cos she maybe in university or have a job that means she has to tone down her look.
Today whilst we were out H was photographed by an adult without her permission. This isn't the first time this has happened but it is the first time it's happened whilst I have been with her. H isn't arsed about people taking her pic but tbh I was pissed off about it. I was pissed off because I though it was fuckin rude! How would you like it if I took a pic of your child without permission? And why didn't you ask permission? And why do you want a pic of my goth kid? To put on the internet? To mock?
I kinda feel I shouldn't be pissed off cos if she looks so alternative then she's got to put up with attention. And yes I get that. H doesn't give a shit. She thinks it's funny n she pulled a silly rock pose.
She's a cool kid n I love her but please for the love of god if you wanna take a pic of an alternative kid just ask them. They don't bite dispite the fake teeth n blood. kids will be kids. Adults should behave like adults and learn some fuckin manners.
Rant over
PTU xxx "
I had this a couple of years ago,my daughter is stunning(not being bias)....so in a bar this guy blatently took a pic of her,i said "wtf are you doing" he replied"shes gorgeous" where i replied"delete that you fucking weird twat or i will wipe the floor with you"....he did |
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police
Although I do agree with you but it isn't against the law to take photos of anyone in a public place without permission."
No it's not. In public you can take photos or vid of anyone. If it was illegal all these cctv cameras would be illegal too. |
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You've a lot more restraint than I have, similar happened to me once and I took the camera off the person. Whether your daughter is bothered or not I'm sure there's some legalities about taking pictures of minors without consent. |
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police
Although I do agree with you but it isn't against the law to take photos of anyone in a public place without permission.
No it's not. In public you can take photos or vid of anyone. If it was illegal all these cctv cameras would be illegal too. "
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Some people lead very sheltered lives. I accompanied relatives who aren't very worldly to Brighton recently (aged from 16 to 50). They were openly shocked and amused by some of the alternative looks we saw. I had to tell them to stop commenting. I honesty believe that some people are incapable of realising that people who look different are actually real, living and breathing humans. |
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As someone who had many goth friends in the 80's (anybody familiar with the bear in bedford will know what I mean) they got plenty of attention and shitty comments,but they were adults not kids,the guy taking photo's is bang out of order. Your daughter sounds like a cool kid,well done You! X |
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"Some people lead very sheltered lives. I accompanied relatives who aren't very worldly to Brighton recently (aged from 16 to 50). They were openly shocked and amused by some of the alternative looks we saw. I had to tell them to stop commenting. I honesty believe that some people are incapable of realising that people who look different are actually real, living and breathing humans."
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By (user no longer on site)
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Taking photos or video of anyone in public is totally legal. It's a shame really as it's the reason all these cctv cameras are allowed. I personally thing they're intrusive.
If your daughter dresses unusual or in a manner that's different from the norm then a stranger taking a photo is unfortunately an extension of this modern obsession to photograph everything. |
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police "
it's only a photo they took for whatever reason a big deal over nothing
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene"
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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" I think your daughters appearance and fashion choice are irrelevant.
The question I'd be asking is why someone took a picture of my 13 year old daughter?
You don't have to be impolite, simply say excuse me why are you photographing my juvenile daughter?
People can be interesting to look at and it may be completely innocent, but if you feel offended that challenge the behaviour tactfully."
Cos H knows me of old I think she was a little concerned I was gonna kick off. I'm just glad she's level headed. X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police
Although I do agree with you but it isn't against the law to take photos of anyone in a public place without permission."
Yes I think your right about that. Manners wouldn't go amiss tho especially from an adult. Tbh she prob took the pic thinking H looked cool but it is a concern. X |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So let me set the scene, my beautiful daughter H is a goth. When she goes out she's dressed head to toe in black. Often she teams this with gothic jewellery and make up. Now I love my daughter and I let her express herself exactly how she wishes. I don't care what she wears or how much white and black make up she wants to wear as long as she's happy. She's only 13 but life moves so quickly that in another 5 years she may not be able to express herself as she wants too cos she maybe in university or have a job that means she has to tone down her look.
Today whilst we were out H was photographed by an adult without her permission. This isn't the first time this has happened but it is the first time it's happened whilst I have been with her. H isn't arsed about people taking her pic but tbh I was pissed off about it. I was pissed off because I though it was fuckin rude! How would you like it if I took a pic of your child without permission? And why didn't you ask permission? And why do you want a pic of my goth kid? To put on the internet? To mock?
I kinda feel I shouldn't be pissed off cos if she looks so alternative then she's got to put up with attention. And yes I get that. H doesn't give a shit. She thinks it's funny n she pulled a silly rock pose.
She's a cool kid n I love her but please for the love of god if you wanna take a pic of an alternative kid just ask them. They don't bite dispite the fake teeth n blood. kids will be kids. Adults should behave like adults and learn some fuckin manners.
Rant over
PTU xxx
I had this a couple of years ago,my daughter is stunning(not being bias)....so in a bar this guy blatently took a pic of her,i said "wtf are you doing" he replied"shes gorgeous" where i replied"delete that you fucking weird twat or i will wipe the floor with you"....he did"
Ahhhhh see that's daddy protecting his little girl. I'd of been pissed if you hadn't reacted. x |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"You've a lot more restraint than I have, similar happened to me once and I took the camera off the person. Whether your daughter is bothered or not I'm sure there's some legalities about taking pictures of minors without consent."
I think as above it's not something that can be policed. But you would of though an adult would of simply asked if she could take a pic of H. I got sent a pic yesterday of a friends daugther n I had the manners to ask the person if I could show the pic to H. It's manners! Xxx
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Some people lead very sheltered lives. I accompanied relatives who aren't very worldly to Brighton recently (aged from 16 to 50). They were openly shocked and amused by some of the alternative looks we saw. I had to tell them to stop commenting. I honesty believe that some people are incapable of realising that people who look different are actually real, living and breathing humans."
Yes! I think in reality the woman prob though H looked cool so took a pic, I just found it so rude as I was with her n I like to think that it's obv I'm her mum. xxx |
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"As someone who had many goth friends in the 80's (anybody familiar with the bear in bedford will know what I mean) they got plenty of attention and shitty comments,but they were adults not kids,the guy taking photo's is bang out of order. Your daughter sounds like a cool kid,well done You! X"
Yea she is, much cooler then I was at her age! Xx |
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment. "
It's not illegal, but I do consider it wrong. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I would be concerned about strangers taking pics of my child.
What are they going to do with the images?"
Prob put em on Facebook! Don't worry I'm a finder if they are there I'll spot em.  x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment. "
No it's perfectly legal. The legality depends on the location and whether they have the "reasonable expectation of privacy". On a public street you do not. |
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police
Although I do agree with you but it isn't against the law to take photos of anyone in a public place without permission."
Not that I'm aware of unless the law a has recently changed. 'Public' is the key word here. No offence has been committed by just taking someone's photo whilst they are out in public as far as I'm aware. I'm open to hear otherwise though.
I'm an a mature photographer so would definitely like to know if the law a has changed. There are lots of issues that this raises and uts good to talk about them especially with your children. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Taking photos or video of anyone in public is totally legal. It's a shame really as it's the reason all these cctv cameras are allowed. I personally thing they're intrusive.
If your daughter dresses unusual or in a manner that's different from the norm then a stranger taking a photo is unfortunately an extension of this modern obsession to photograph everything. "
Yes I totally agree n H wasn't bothered it was me who nearly kicked off. Xxx |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment. "
Yes n no, I doubt the pic will be used for nefarious reasons, goth are well covered clothes wise. I was just pissed as I saw it as rude not to ask permission first. I put pics of my daughters on Facebook all the time should I not? Hell no they are my girls I'm bloody proud of them. Now if she had been wearing her bathers......... |
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If you took a pic of your daughter now, in what she was wearing at the time of the photo, and did a reverse image search over the next few weeks, would that work?
If someone took a pic of my boys i'd like to think i'd wrap the camera down the persons throat and tell them to shit out the film. But different when your kids are with you. Got to be all diplomatic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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When it comes to my children and their well being, I don't have a sense of humour. I would have gone ballistic and made them delete it.
She's a minor, so whether legal or not to take the picture it's an intrusion and a tad suspect in my books, and therefore not welcome.
I'm sure she wouldn't have minded if they had asked.
Good for you for keeping calm. |
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"Someone took a photo off your 13 year old daughter with asking you or her first, and you did nothing? Seriously?"
I wanted to take her phone off her n kick her fuckin head in. H stopped me cos that would of been embarrassing for her. That's when she said mum it's happened before. Do I tell her you can't be you anymore cos of rude adults who should know better? Sadly it's a sign of the t8mes. I value my daughters opinion of me far more then I value their opinion of others. Xx |
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment.
It's not illegal, but I do consider it wrong."
It is illegal! My new next door neighbour was caught videoing my 15 year old son without my permission. I called the police right away. They said it's a criminal offence and came out to collect the evidence and make arrests. Unfortunately by time they tirned up, next door had deleted the recording. Without evidence no arrests were made! I now have CCTV covering my entire property and new fencing/gates. I can't move because I'm a private tenant and my contract isnt up yet. OP, don't stand for it and report to the police immediately if it happens again. |
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police
Although I do agree with you but it isn't against the law to take photos of anyone in a public place without permission.
Not that I'm aware of unless the law a has recently changed. 'Public' is the key word here. No offence has been committed by just taking someone's photo whilst they are out in public as far as I'm aware. I'm open to hear otherwise though.
I'm an a mature photographer so would definitely like to know if the law a has changed. There are lots of issues that this raises and uts good to talk about them especially with your children."
For me it's not the fact a pic was taken. H is cool with that. It's the fact the adult didn't ask if she could take a pic of her. It would of been different if it had been a press photographer. Xx |
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"If you took a pic of your daughter now, in what she was wearing at the time of the photo, and did a reverse image search over the next few weeks, would that work?
If someone took a pic of my boys i'd like to think i'd wrap the camera down the persons throat and tell them to shit out the film. But different when your kids are with you. Got to be all diplomatic."
Hahaha you just reminded me of when a certain Mr Rose jumped into the crowd at one of his concerts n decked the guy cos he was takin pics of him. xxx |
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"When it comes to my children and their well being, I don't have a sense of humour. I would have gone ballistic and made them delete it.
She's a minor, so whether legal or not to take the picture it's an intrusion and a tad suspect in my books, and therefore not welcome.
I'm sure she wouldn't have minded if they had asked.
Good for you for keeping calm."
Thank you. My girls are a good influence on me. Xxx |
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment.
It's not illegal, but I do consider it wrong.
It is illegal! My new next door neighbour was caught videoing my 15 year old son without my permission. I called the police right away. They said it's a criminal offence and came out to collect the evidence and make arrests. Unfortunately by time they tirned up, next door had deleted the recording. Without evidence no arrests were made! I now have CCTV covering my entire property and new fencing/gates. I can't move because I'm a private tenant and my contract isnt up yet. OP, don't stand for it and report to the police immediately if it happens again. "
Because your son was at home where he has the reasonable expectation of privacy. Had your neighbour filmed him on the streets then it wouldn't have been illegal. |
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She probably looked older than 13, but that's still not the point. Any adult who was interested in someone's look and had no ulterior motives would of simply asked if it was ok to take a pic of her!!!
I would of gone nuts tbh.... x |
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment.
It's not illegal, but I do consider it wrong.
It is illegal! My new next door neighbour was caught videoing my 15 year old son without my permission. I called the police right away. They said it's a criminal offence and came out to collect the evidence and make arrests. Unfortunately by time they tirned up, next door had deleted the recording. Without evidence no arrests were made! I now have CCTV covering my entire property and new fencing/gates. I can't move because I'm a private tenant and my contract isnt up yet. OP, don't stand for it and report to the police immediately if it happens again. "
May I ask where your son was when he was being filmed?
I ask because it is not illegal to film a person in a public place.
However there may be other laws being broken... |
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"She probably looked older than 13, but that's still not the point. Any adult who was interested in someone's look and had no ulterior motives would of simply asked if it was ok to take a pic of her!!!
I would of gone nuts tbh.... x"
3 years ago I would of done and tbh the girls have seen me kick off far too many times which is prob why she told me not too. These days thanks to my meds n my sobriety I can keep my cool. Xx |
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"She probably looked older than 13, but that's still not the point. Any adult who was interested in someone's look and had no ulterior motives would of simply asked if it was ok to take a pic of her!!!
I would of gone nuts tbh.... x
3 years ago I would of done and tbh the girls have seen me kick off far too many times which is prob why she told me not too. These days thanks to my meds n my sobriety I can keep my cool. Xx"
I totally understand where you are coming from, however if you lost your rag with someone you would be the one getting in trouble not the photographer.
Rude and disrespectful as it was it would be even more distressing for your daughter seeing you being carted off by the police... |
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Just seen this post, it reminds me of me when I was younger well I was 16. You could have called me and my mate's different we was punks back then, I had a pink mowhock (hope that's how it spellt). We lived in London, this 1979/80 by the way every weekend We would go to the west end, people tried to take pictures of us which was OK!! As love as thay paid us. We used to get a £5 ago mostly Japanese or USA tourists. Most paid some tried not to but thay did in the end. We made a lot of money I was bring home 3 times what my Mum and Dad made and by the way I gave most of it to Mum. What I'm Tring to say is if it happens a lot make them pay because if like you say it go's on the net you can bet there makeing money.
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"Just seen this post, it reminds me of me when I was younger well I was 16. You could have called me and my mate's different we was punks back then, I had a pink mowhock (hope that's how it spellt). We lived in London, this 1979/80 by the way every weekend We would go to the west end, people tried to take pictures of us which was OK!! As love as thay paid us. We used to get a £5 ago mostly Japanese or USA tourists. Most paid some tried not to but thay did in the end. We made a lot of money I was bring home 3 times what my Mum and Dad made and by the way I gave most of it to Mum. What I'm Tring to say is if it happens a lot make them pay because if like you say it go's on the net you can bet there makeing money.
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Right or wrong there is nothing you can do to stop someone taking your picture in public and selling it. They own the picture not you. |
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"She probably looked older than 13, but that's still not the point. Any adult who was interested in someone's look and had no ulterior motives would of simply asked if it was ok to take a pic of her!!!
I would of gone nuts tbh.... x
3 years ago I would of done and tbh the girls have seen me kick off far too many times which is prob why she told me not too. These days thanks to my meds n my sobriety I can keep my cool. Xx
I totally understand where you are coming from, however if you lost your rag with someone you would be the one getting in trouble not the photographer.
Rude and disrespectful as it was it would be even more distressing for your daughter seeing you being carted off by the police..."
Exactly! It wasn't worth a caution. Xx |
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People are so mundane and boring that all you have to do is express yourself a little out of the "norm" and they act as if you're there for their entertainment. Good on her for not giving a shit and shame on the photographer, should get out more. Every day is a different costume for me. I'm like a real life mr Ben (some of you may be too young to remember mr Ben...google it) |
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"People are so mundane and boring that all you have to do is express yourself a little out of the "norm" and they act as if you're there for their entertainment. Good on her for not giving a shit and shame on the photographer, should get out more. Every day is a different costume for me. I'm like a real life mr Ben (some of you may be too young to remember mr Ben...google it)"
Or Mr Bean??? |
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"People are so mundane and boring that all you have to do is express yourself a little out of the "norm" and they act as if you're there for their entertainment. Good on her for not giving a shit and shame on the photographer, should get out more. Every day is a different costume for me. I'm like a real life mr Ben (some of you may be too young to remember mr Ben...google it)"
Mr Ben was soooo cool. xx |
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I've read about half way down.
If it was illegal to take pictures then newspapers couldn't survive. Nor photographic artists.
People are speaking as if he stole her soul with a magic machine.
As for her age.... she's underage for sex not for fully clothed photos.
Personally I walk out of camera shot when i see them but this day and age it's the norm for people to snap everything that moves. |
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So many seem to think that he took her pic for some dark hidden agenda or that they'd never seen anything like it before.
Maybe he thought she looked fantastic.
Was he a stocky bloke with shaved head ?
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine""
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here.  xxx |
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"as I said last week, she should have a sign round her neck saying 'WTF are you looking at!' and 'no you cant take that pic' underneath "
See mzzfoxx has met H n you weren't scared where you?  |
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"So many seem to think that he took her pic for some dark hidden agenda or that they'd never seen anything like it before.
Maybe he thought she looked fantastic.
Was he a stocky bloke with shaved head ?
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No lol it was a woman. N yea I think the pic prob was taken cos she thought H looked cool. But she should of asked us if it was ok to take. X |
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"So many seem to think that he took her pic for some dark hidden agenda or that they'd never seen anything like it before.
Maybe he thought she looked fantastic.
Was he a stocky bloke with shaved head ?
No lol it was a woman. N yea I think the pic prob was taken cos she thought H looked cool. But she should of asked us if it was ok to take. X"
Yes. It would have been manners but then she'd have run the risk of you saying no  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"So many seem to think that he took her pic for some dark hidden agenda or that they'd never seen anything like it before.
Maybe he thought she looked fantastic.
Was he a stocky bloke with shaved head ?
No lol it was a woman. N yea I think the pic prob was taken cos she thought H looked cool. But she should of asked us if it was ok to take. X
Yes. It would have been manners but then she'd have run the risk of you saying no "
Hahaha she's dodged a gudden xx |
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx"
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience  |
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience "
I'll get her in the ring next time. xx |
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"So let me set the scene, my beautiful daughter H is a goth. When she goes out she's dressed head to toe in black. Often she teams this with gothic jewellery and make up. Now I love my daughter and I let her express herself exactly how she wishes. I don't care what she wears or how much white and black make up she wants to wear as long as she's happy. She's only 13 but life moves so quickly that in another 5 years she may not be able to express herself as she wants too cos she maybe in university or have a job that means she has to tone down her look.
Today whilst we were out H was photographed by an adult without her permission. This isn't the first time this has happened but it is the first time it's happened whilst I have been with her. H isn't arsed about people taking her pic but tbh I was pissed off about it. I was pissed off because I though it was fuckin rude! How would you like it if I took a pic of your child without permission? And why didn't you ask permission? And why do you want a pic of my goth kid? To put on the internet? To mock?
I kinda feel I shouldn't be pissed off cos if she looks so alternative then she's got to put up with attention. And yes I get that. H doesn't give a shit. She thinks it's funny n she pulled a silly rock pose.
She's a cool kid n I love her but please for the love of god if you wanna take a pic of an alternative kid just ask them. They don't bite dispite the fake teeth n blood. kids will be kids. Adults should behave like adults and learn some fuckin manners.
Rant over
PTU xxx "
It's not acceptable for someone to take a photo of your daughter without her permission, I would have been livid and shouted at the person.
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"So let me set the scene, my beautiful daughter H is a goth. When she goes out she's dressed head to toe in black. Often she teams this with gothic jewellery and make up. Now I love my daughter and I let her express herself exactly how she wishes. I don't care what she wears or how much white and black make up she wants to wear as long as she's happy. She's only 13 but life moves so quickly that in another 5 years she may not be able to express herself as she wants too cos she maybe in university or have a job that means she has to tone down her look.
Today whilst we were out H was photographed by an adult without her permission. This isn't the first time this has happened but it is the first time it's happened whilst I have been with her. H isn't arsed about people taking her pic but tbh I was pissed off about it. I was pissed off because I though it was fuckin rude! How would you like it if I took a pic of your child without permission? And why didn't you ask permission? And why do you want a pic of my goth kid? To put on the internet? To mock?
I kinda feel I shouldn't be pissed off cos if she looks so alternative then she's got to put up with attention. And yes I get that. H doesn't give a shit. She thinks it's funny n she pulled a silly rock pose.
She's a cool kid n I love her but please for the love of god if you wanna take a pic of an alternative kid just ask them. They don't bite dispite the fake teeth n blood. kids will be kids. Adults should behave like adults and learn some fuckin manners.
Rant over
PTU xxx
It's not acceptable for someone to take a photo of your daughter without her permission, I would have been livid and shouted at the person.
XXX
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I tryed to but the grip of death landed on my shoulder. xx |
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"So let me set the scene, my beautiful daughter H is a goth. When she goes out she's dressed head to toe in black. Often she teams this with gothic jewellery and make up. Now I love my daughter and I let her express herself exactly how she wishes. I don't care what she wears or how much white and black make up she wants to wear as long as she's happy. She's only 13 but life moves so quickly that in another 5 years she may not be able to express herself as she wants too cos she maybe in university or have a job that means she has to tone down her look.
Today whilst we were out H was photographed by an adult without her permission. This isn't the first time this has happened but it is the first time it's happened whilst I have been with her. H isn't arsed about people taking her pic but tbh I was pissed off about it. I was pissed off because I though it was fuckin rude! How would you like it if I took a pic of your child without permission? And why didn't you ask permission? And why do you want a pic of my goth kid? To put on the internet? To mock?
I kinda feel I shouldn't be pissed off cos if she looks so alternative then she's got to put up with attention. And yes I get that. H doesn't give a shit. She thinks it's funny n she pulled a silly rock pose.
She's a cool kid n I love her but please for the love of god if you wanna take a pic of an alternative kid just ask them. They don't bite dispite the fake teeth n blood. kids will be kids. Adults should behave like adults and learn some fuckin manners.
Rant over
PTU xxx
It's not acceptable for someone to take a photo of your daughter without her permission, I would have been livid and shouted at the person.
XXX
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience I'll get her in the ring next time. xx"
Perfect crime! |
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"Id of been livid
Well done you for not causing a scene
Causing a scene? That stranger took a photo of a child without parents permission which technically is illeagal! Just because that little girl is a goth, doesn't mean the stranger had innocent intentions! Clearly they did not.
OP, you should of took their photo or camera off them and went straight to the police. Decent adults do not behave in that manner. Your daughter shouldn't have to be used to such treatment. "
Its not illegal though according to others here so the person did nothing illegal. |
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience I'll get her in the ring next time. xx
Perfect crime!"
Do you think I'd get 14 years xx |
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience I'll get her in the ring next time. xx
Perfect crime!
Do you think I'd get 14 years xx"
If you did there'd be a civil war! |
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"So let me set the scene, my beautiful daughter H is a goth. When she goes out she's dressed head to toe in black. Often she teams this with gothic jewellery and make up. Now I love my daughter and I let her express herself exactly how she wishes. I don't care what she wears or how much white and black make up she wants to wear as long as she's happy. She's only 13 but life moves so quickly that in another 5 years she may not be able to express herself as she wants too cos she maybe in university or have a job that means she has to tone down her look.
Today whilst we were out H was photographed by an adult without her permission. This isn't the first time this has happened but it is the first time it's happened whilst I have been with her. H isn't arsed about people taking her pic but tbh I was pissed off about it. I was pissed off because I though it was fuckin rude! How would you like it if I took a pic of your child without permission? And why didn't you ask permission? And why do you want a pic of my goth kid? To put on the internet? To mock?
I kinda feel I shouldn't be pissed off cos if she looks so alternative then she's got to put up with attention. And yes I get that. H doesn't give a shit. She thinks it's funny n she pulled a silly rock pose.
She's a cool kid n I love her but please for the love of god if you wanna take a pic of an alternative kid just ask them. They don't bite dispite the fake teeth n blood. kids will be kids. Adults should behave like adults and learn some fuckin manners.
Rant over
PTU xxx "
thanks for sharing whenever I'm out and someone is taking a pic I try and get in on the action chill like your daughter did and dont allow it to affect you xx |
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience I'll get her in the ring next time. xx
Perfect crime!
Do you think I'd get 14 years xx
If you did there'd be a civil war!"
Doubt that. We need democracy in China first. X |
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"She probably looked older than 13, but that's still not the point. Any adult who was interested in someone's look and had no ulterior motives would of simply asked if it was ok to take a pic of her!!!
I would of gone nuts tbh.... x
3 years ago I would of done and tbh the girls have seen me kick off far too many times which is prob why she told me not too. These days thanks to my meds n my sobriety I can keep my cool. Xx
I totally understand where you are coming from, however if you lost your rag with someone you would be the one getting in trouble not the photographer.
Rude and disrespectful as it was it would be even more distressing for your daughter seeing you being carted off by the police..."
This and think carefully how one responds though I fully understand why one would respond inappropriately beyond what is legally acceptable. |
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"Stranger taking pics of under age girls comes under abuse ,dose not matter what she is wearing ,it needs reporting to police "
Might not necessarily come under abuse, but the police would certainly want to know why an adult is taking photos randomly of a teenager.
I'd be reporting it and also taking my own phone out and taking photos of the adult in question |
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience I'll get her in the ring next time. xx
Perfect crime!
Do you think I'd get 14 years xx
If you did there'd be a civil war!
Doubt that. We need democracy in China first. X"
We'll have to send Mr.Brownstone |
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I'd be pissed off too; not so much because it's someone taking a picture of someone who' behaves/dresses alternative to the norm, but because it's an stranger adult taking a picture of my child! |
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I was a goth when I was in my teens. This used to happen to me to. And my mates. It is rude. Back then though theres was no Internet for it to be published on.
If you look a bit different, people act weird towards you. This is because people are shits.
I salute your daughter for being who she wants to be.
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"as I said last week, she should have a sign round her neck saying 'WTF are you looking at!' and 'no you cant take that pic' underneath
last week didn't bother me cos the chap had a press lanyard. xxx"
Why is a press photographer more acceptable? They may sell the picture to some rag to use to illustrate a yoof of the day all mad, bad and dangerous type story. If all it takes to be acceptable is a lanyard, which are easy enough to get, what are you actually angry about?
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I'm more concerned that you class your child as "Alternative"
And as others have said, it's not against the law to photograph adults or children in a public place.
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"I'm more concerned that you class your child as "Alternative"
And as others have said, it's not against the law to photograph adults or children in a public place.
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It's pretty standard here. |
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'Alternative' is just the oldish term for goths and stuff from the pre emo times.
Hence 'alternative' nights at some clubs. Thing annoys me is the ones hurling abuse at goth kids etc are usually a peice of shit with no imagination in £10 worth of sports direct crap. |
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"She probably looked older than 13, but that's still not the point. Any adult who was interested in someone's look and had no ulterior motives would of simply asked if it was ok to take a pic of her!!!
I would of gone nuts tbh.... x
3 years ago I would of done and tbh the girls have seen me kick off far too many times which is prob why she told me not too. These days thanks to my meds n my sobriety I can keep my cool. Xx
I totally understand where you are coming from, however if you lost your rag with someone you would be the one getting in trouble not the photographer.
Rude and disrespectful as it was it would be even more distressing for your daughter seeing you being carted off by the police...
This and think carefully how one responds though I fully understand why one would respond inappropriately beyond what is legally acceptable. "
Thankfully I'm not that type of person anymore. Xx |
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"I am kinda dissapointed you described her as "my beautiful daughter" you missed the perfect opportunity say "sweet child o' mine"
Hahaha but she's not sweet. She's more of a bitch so I'll just back off here. xxx
Yeah back off bitch, just have a little patience I'll get her in the ring next time. xx
Perfect crime!
Do you think I'd get 14 years xx
If you did there'd be a civil war!
Doubt that. We need democracy in China first. X
We'll have to send Mr.Brownstone"
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"I was a goth when I was in my teens. This used to happen to me to. And my mates. It is rude. Back then though theres was no Internet for it to be published on.
If you look a bit different, people act weird towards you. This is because people are shits.
I salute your daughter for being who she wants to be.
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Yes I'm very proud of her. Thank you. X |
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"as I said last week, she should have a sign round her neck saying 'WTF are you looking at!' and 'no you cant take that pic' underneath
last week didn't bother me cos the chap had a press lanyard. xxx
Why is a press photographer more acceptable? They may sell the picture to some rag to use to illustrate a yoof of the day all mad, bad and dangerous type story. If all it takes to be acceptable is a lanyard, which are easy enough to get, what are you actually angry about?
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Because it was a music event so she fitted in. It's was a completely different situation to yesterday. X |
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"I'm more concerned that you class your child as "Alternative"
And as others have said, it's not against the law to photograph adults or children in a public place.
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Why? What's wrong with her being alternative/goth/lesbian? I'm cool with who she is n so are the rest of her friends and family. |
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Manners cost nothing and your daughter is not alternative she is a normal human being I would be pissed off if someone had took a pic of my family too. I would of had to say something quietly to the person and made them aware how you felt and how would they feel of some taking a pic of them (maybe they may think next time) |
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