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How do you sort your order out?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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As I'm on a new profile and have my filters open to accept messages from men, I'm getting a lot of traffic. My question is how does everyone decide who they're going to meet and how do they sort their order out?
Never really had this problem cos I always blocked incoming mail and used the forums so didn't really do much messaging and searching.
Thing is there's quite a few gems on here that are coming through, my problem (which also bites me on the arse) I can't spread myself thinly and tend to only be able to concentrate on one guy at a time so if/when that goes tits up it can leave me feeling a bit flat and defeated.
This time I don't want to be too invested in just one person but then how do you decide which order to meet?
I do only need one guy so don't really want to do a production line of guys.
Just been thinking during my ban of how things are supposed to work on here, it's a bit complicated isn't it. |
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No lol. Whoever is the first person you talk to and like,and they like you too and is available when you are,that's who you meet. Why do people make this place sound sooo complicated. Jeez and peaz |
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"No lol. Whoever is the first person you talk to and like,and they like you too and is available when you are,that's who you meet. Why do people make this place sound sooo complicated. Jeez and peaz "
Yeah but then you get more messages off people that suit your preferences and honestly there's like 14 potential people now and like how do you decide which order to meet. I do not want to concentrate on one guy because then I get too hung up on them. Just want to be breezy. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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"No lol. Whoever is the first person you talk to and like,and they like you too and is available when you are,that's who you meet. Why do people make this place sound sooo complicated. Jeez and peaz
Yeah but then you get more messages off people that suit your preferences and honestly there's like 14 potential people now and like how do you decide which order to meet. I do not want to concentrate on one guy because then I get too hung up on them. Just want to be breezy. "
Meet all the ones you want to meet. Then make a decision. |
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By *utie91Woman
over a year ago
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I tend to chat to the guys on here who send me something interesting in a message... so anybody that just messages "hey" , "u free now", "i want to fuck ur arse" all get instant deletes
Also thy must have pics or send pics in their message. And I don't meet the male half of couples either.
After we've been chatting and seem to be getting on I would take it further. Don't just meet with anybody.
Also I hate people demanding pics... I put pics up on my profile for people to look at.... there's only so many angles of my boobs that you need to see so why keep asking lol
Sorry if I sound picky but I think we need to be to really find what we are looking for
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I juggle a handful of potentials at any one time, more than that is too time consuming, less has the potential to run dry.
For me this is where time is one of the deciding factors as I have a limited amount, therefore if they aren't prepared to wait or there is no foreseeable window of opportunity the chat naturally dies out & the cycle continues. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Thought it was a simple choice of who's got the biggest cock? "
But when they're all handsome and tall with large dicks, how am I supposed to decide yet at the same time not favouring one over the rest. I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket cos that's when it goes to shit and I come on too strong to that one person. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As I'm on a new profile and have my filters open to accept messages from men, I'm getting a lot of traffic. My question is how does everyone decide who they're going to meet and how do they sort their order out?
Never really had this problem cos I always blocked incoming mail and used the forums so didn't really do much messaging and searching.
Thing is there's quite a few gems on here that are coming through, my problem (which also bites me on the arse) I can't spread myself thinly and tend to only be able to concentrate on one guy at a time so if/when that goes tits up it can leave me feeling a bit flat and defeated.
This time I don't want to be too invested in just one person but then how do you decide which order to meet?
I do only need one guy so don't really want to do a production line of guys.
Just been thinking during my ban of how things are supposed to work on here, it's a bit complicated isn't it. "
Sort by distance first - too far? See if they commit and book a hotel and send you some evidence (details).
What's their availability (does it fit with what you're after assuming you got plans) boom down to less.
3 out of 4 singles will flake. Chat to each find out which one it ia most likely not to be arranged a meet.
Forget everyone else as you have limited capacity.
Once done post status saying "cleared inboxes as too many messages - message me again!" or similar and start again.
But tbf unless you are super relaxed there's normally 1 or 2 that gut feel stand out from the crowd! |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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chat to a few guys at once, get into that habit. coz half the guys you chat to will probably be flakey/duds anyway.
as/if more interesting messages come in, drop the most boring, looking least likely to be compatible guys. start to chat with new ones.
enjoy this power of femininity that you have on here and start making rotas of guys by dropping the flakes/duds and reeling in the more seemingly better prospects.
honestly within a couple of weeks you'll probably just block them all like i do but try that until then. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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You need to narrow the field.
Ask them searching questions like:
If i were out of Scotch Eggs and had a hanker for one, how far would you travel to get me one?
A) to the fridge
B) To the ends of the earth
C) Feck off and get your own.
A & B are potentials |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thought it was a simple choice of who's got the biggest cock?
But when they're all handsome and tall with large dicks, how am I supposed to decide yet at the same time not favouring one over the rest. I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket cos that's when it goes to shit and I come on too strong to that one person. "
This smacks of insecurity (brutal but honest). You are in charge here and have pick of 100's, there's no such thing as ypu coming on too strong. If they flake either a) they weren't interested or b) they weren't the alpha they were suggesting and became nervous (or c in minoity of cases they genuinely weren't able to make it) |
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That's just men who think all women are obsessed by big cocks. I find it a tut off if someone mentions size in a first message in particular. Its like me putting my bra size "Thought it was a simple choice of who's got the biggest cock? "
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"As I'm on a new profile and have my filters open to accept messages from men, I'm getting a lot of traffic. My question is how does everyone decide who they're going to meet and how do they sort their order out?
Never really had this problem cos I always blocked incoming mail and used the forums so didn't really do much messaging and searching.
Thing is there's quite a few gems on here that are coming through, my problem (which also bites me on the arse) I can't spread myself thinly and tend to only be able to concentrate on one guy at a time so if/when that goes tits up it can leave me feeling a bit flat and defeated.
This time I don't want to be too invested in just one person but then how do you decide which order to meet?
I do only need one guy so don't really want to do a production line of guys.
Just been thinking during my ban of how things are supposed to work on here, it's a bit complicated isn't it. "
Whichever one makes you laugh and smile the most go for them! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There is such thing as coming on too strong that's why I need to be more nonchalant, and I want guys to work a bit and do the chase. "
I think that approach may work on dating sites. In my experience the best meets have come from when we've been on a level playing field.
Being nonchalant and expecting the guys do the chasing results in a big fat disappointment. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is such thing as coming on too strong that's why I need to be more nonchalant, and I want guys to work a bit and do the chase. "
You won't stand out from many other single women then! It's not teenage dating and guys will get bored, be original, go on try it, you might like, block all single guys, yes you won't get the attention and then search yourself, message them, with a face pic, the code word and an intelligent message, not a copy & paste, go on you know you want to..... x |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is such thing as coming on too strong that's why I need to be more nonchalant, and I want guys to work a bit and do the chase.
You won't stand out from many other single women then! It's not teenage dating and guys will get bored, be original, go on try it, you might like, block all single guys, yes you won't get the attention and then search yourself, message them, with a face pic, the code word and an intelligent message, not a copy & paste, go on you know you want to..... x"
It can't be my eyes I've just got new glasses... a women "chasing" a man on Fab, as the world stopped!?! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is such thing as coming on too strong that's why I need to be more nonchalant, and I want guys to work a bit and do the chase.
You won't stand out from many other single women then! It's not teenage dating and guys will get bored, be original, go on try it, you might like, block all single guys, yes you won't get the attention and then search yourself, message them, with a face pic, the code word and an intelligent message, not a copy & paste, go on you know you want to..... x"
Jesus Christ which site are you on haha? 14 guys have messaged you (I'm assuming) that 'fit the bill'. Why do you need to be original. You (generally) vet them not the other way around?
Unless you work the opposite way to every girl I've ever dated!? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No lol. Whoever is the first person you talk to and like,and they like you too and is available when you are,that's who you meet. Why do people make this place sound sooo complicated. Jeez and peaz
Yeah but then you get more messages off people that suit your preferences and honestly there's like 14 potential people now and like how do you decide which order to meet. I do not want to concentrate on one guy because then I get too hung up on them. Just want to be breezy. "
Me!....choose me! |
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"As I'm on a new profile and have my filters open to accept messages from men, I'm getting a lot of traffic. My question is how does everyone decide who they're going to meet and how do they sort their order out?
Never really had this problem cos I always blocked incoming mail and used the forums so didn't really do much messaging and searching.
Thing is there's quite a few gems on here that are coming through, my problem (which also bites me on the arse) I can't spread myself thinly and tend to only be able to concentrate on one guy at a time so if/when that goes tits up it can leave me feeling a bit flat and defeated.
This time I don't want to be too invested in just one person but then how do you decide which order to meet?
I do only need one guy so don't really want to do a production line of guys.
Just been thinking during my ban of how things are supposed to work on here, it's a bit complicated isn't it. "
I know how you feel; it's Hell isn't it? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones. "
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Choose the seven you really have the hots for.
Talk to them about potential dates to meet ( all on one day if necessary)
Meet
Sort the wheat from the chaff
Set up follow up meets
Then have a go at the next seven.... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones.
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward? "
I'm not. I'm wondering how you organise meeting the ones I'm interested in. Like do you do it like a queue system whereby the person who messages first gets the first social.
Like all the guys I'm interested in are aesthetically the same? Height, handsome and big dicked. There's always going to be one I favour over the others but how do you spread yourself so you don't get invested in just one? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There is such thing as coming on too strong that's why I need to be more nonchalant, and I want guys to work a bit and do the chase. "
I'd rather a woman came on too strong, than too shy/weak. I think most men are like that. Shows some passion |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones.
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward?
I'm not. I'm wondering how you organise meeting the ones I'm interested in. Like do you do it like a queue system whereby the person who messages first gets the first social.
Like all the guys I'm interested in are aesthetically the same? Height, handsome and big dicked. There's always going to be one I favour over the others but how do you spread yourself so you don't get invested in just one?"
You have to learn to juggle.
What you're doing to them is what the popular men will do back to you ~ who do I like, who is free when I'm free ~ you then take it from there.
As long as you're upfront & honest anyone miffed by the idea of someone meeting others before them is on the wrong bloody site. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones.
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward?
I'm not. I'm wondering how you organise meeting the ones I'm interested in. Like do you do it like a queue system whereby the person who messages first gets the first social.
Like all the guys I'm interested in are aesthetically the same? Height, handsome and big dicked. There's always going to be one I favour over the others but how do you spread yourself so you don't get invested in just one?"
limit the times you allow yourself to meet the fella - say one social one play meet - but in my mind if you click well id just go with the flow - and keep reading this thread to remind yourself what you want |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones.
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward?
I'm not. I'm wondering how you organise meeting the ones I'm interested in. Like do you do it like a queue system whereby the person who messages first gets the first social.
Like all the guys I'm interested in are aesthetically the same? Height, handsome and big dicked. There's always going to be one I favour over the others but how do you spread yourself so you don't get invested in just one?"
Don't invest in any. Better yet have them compete. If you're looking to meet on Tuesday and you have 3 'studs' all keen on that day see which one is most keen and likely to turn up and go with that one. Pick up the others after.
Here's a lesson. Men are keen. If they're tall and handsome who cares it's just another dude until you meet. If they knock you off your feet when you meet them then fair play then you can get giddy or excited or wherever your emotions take you.
For now just pick a nice one who will meet. Be as picky as you want and if you are really concerned about losing the others don't kill off the other options just say some guy is taking me out but liked your profile keep an eye on my status updates gor when I'm next available then meet and repeat |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Easy just have a gangbang sorted . Nah seriously talk to a few,close the filters down so you can talk to them proper and not get distracted by new ones, then decide who to meet.
Doll x |
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones.
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward?
I'm not. I'm wondering how you organise meeting the ones I'm interested in. Like do you do it like a queue system whereby the person who messages first gets the first social.
Like all the guys I'm interested in are aesthetically the same? Height, handsome and big dicked. There's always going to be one I favour over the others but how do you spread yourself so you don't get invested in just one?
You have to learn to juggle.
What you're doing to them is what the popular men will do back to you ~ who do I like, who is free when I'm free ~ you then take it from there.
As long as you're upfront & honest anyone miffed by the idea of someone meeting others before them is on the wrong bloody site."
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones.
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward?
I'm not. I'm wondering how you organise meeting the ones I'm interested in. Like do you do it like a queue system whereby the person who messages first gets the first social.
Like all the guys I'm interested in are aesthetically the same? Height, handsome and big dicked. There's always going to be one I favour over the others but how do you spread yourself so you don't get invested in just one?"
Else give them a ticket in order of preference and call them one by one of you want your queue systsem |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Invite them all to compete for your attention on a Crystal Maze type game show,where you can asses their suitability by giving them sex related tasks,such as timed bra removal with one hand,tying a knot in a cherry stalk with your tongue....stuff like that.
You can tailor the tasks to reveal specific traits n abilities that you look for in a guy.
Then when it gets down to the last 2 put them in a ring with each other so they can duke it out over you....or if you're against blood sports get them to have a chest beating competition with points awarded for the most Tarzan like shout n most stylish use of a vine n stuff |
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"No lol. Whoever is the first person you talk to and like,and they like you too and is available when you are,that's who you meet. Why do people make this place sound sooo complicated. Jeez and peaz "
I was thinking the same thing.
It's not complicated. Message, respond, chat, arrange meet, fuck...repeat. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Once you've discovered a few guys you want to take things further with, just block all messages in your filters, that'll stop any new messages from anyone you haven't already replied to. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think the guys willing to really chase are usually only the ones that really need to. Guys who do ok on here don't have to chase, if you like these guys then other women probably do too and so the chances of them willing to chase you are less.
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"I've only just opened my filters ronguys after years of having them blocked and me searching guys myself. I've always encountered the same problems doing things that way so this time I want to try and be caught so to speak. I find one guy attractive, I message, he responds, I've built him up so much in my head that I literally think he's the best thing, it radiates off me that I'm keen and it puts previously interested people off.
So this time I want the men to message me, do a bit of graft and the men to be the keen ones.
Sit and wait!? Lay back in the lap of luxury and let them come to you? You have a nice figure from the pictures I can see.
Where are you struggling to get guys coming forward?
I'm not. I'm wondering how you organise meeting the ones I'm interested in. Like do you do it like a queue system whereby the person who messages first gets the first social.
Like all the guys I'm interested in are aesthetically the same? Height, handsome and big dicked. There's always going to be one I favour over the others but how do you spread yourself so you don't get invested in just one?"
This is what I like about the forums; you get an insight into a completely different world to the one in which you live....... |
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Take it slowly - rushing doesn't make a good job of it
Some of them will deselect themselves due to speed
Pick those who have made a good effort and filter those you like most to contact.
Communicate and stay focused on what you really want |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"As I'm on a new profile and have my filters open to accept messages from men, I'm getting a lot of traffic. My question is how does everyone decide who they're going to meet and how do they sort their order out?
Never really had this problem cos I always blocked incoming mail and used the forums so didn't really do much messaging and searching.
Thing is there's quite a few gems on here that are coming through, my problem (which also bites me on the arse) I can't spread myself thinly and tend to only be able to concentrate on one guy at a time so if/when that goes tits up it can leave me feeling a bit flat and defeated.
This time I don't want to be too invested in just one person but then how do you decide which order to meet?
I do only need one guy so don't really want to do a production line of guys.
Just been thinking during my ban of how things are supposed to work on here, it's a bit complicated isn't it. " the one guy being Manchester ? Ha hey I think its a good thing to give one or two guys that appeal your attention otherwise what happens is you end up sending one word replies like ' lol ' ' ok' ' maybe'and that isnt really fair on anyone especially the two guys who are favourably appealing to you if this happens to me the one word replies I stop messaging myself I like conversation ,hope this helps |
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By *emini ManMan
over a year ago
There and to the left a bit |
For me in my circumstances with limited available time and not wanting lots of one offs I like to chat to potential meets and get to know them a little first, see if there's an initial connection and chemistry before suggesting a meet, and can usually tell within a few messages if that's going to be the case.
If things quickly move to sex chat, or if it's just a series of one liners back and forth then generally they're not for me. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Realistically then there's 4 that make me pleased to receive messages from. The rest, although they're handsome the messages feel like a chore to respond to, even when I've told some not to be so flat out with the messaging. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Realistically then there's 4 that make me pleased to receive messages from. The rest, although they're handsome the messages feel like a chore to respond to, even when I've told some not to be so flat out with the messaging. " if its a chore dont do it |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That's just men who think all women are obsessed by big cocks. I find it a tut off if someone mentions size in a first message in particular. Its like me putting my bra sizeThought it was a simple choice of who's got the biggest cock? "
Mentioning of cock size usually means the delete button for us! |
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"Realistically then there's 4 that make me pleased to receive messages from. The rest, although they're handsome the messages feel like a chore to respond to, even when I've told some not to be so flat out with the messaging. "
Eh.....they can't really win then can they?
You want them to do the chasing, they do that & then you cba to respond....
I think you've answered your original question. |
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over a year ago
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"Realistically then there's 4 that make me pleased to receive messages from. The rest, although they're handsome the messages feel like a chore to respond to, even when I've told some not to be so flat out with the messaging.
Eh.....they can't really win then can they?
You want them to do the chasing, they do that & then you cba to respond....
I think you've answered your original question." ha ......irony |
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Father and son bulls, standing at the top of the field. Son bull says to his dad "Hey dad! Lets run down there and fuck one of those cows". Father turns and says "No son, lets walk down and fuck them all"
That's all i have |
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Put your filters back on while you chat to these few so you're not annoyed by new incoming mail.
If you find yourself getting bored of chatting to some tell them it's not working so goodbye.
If they say or do something that puts you off tell them it's not working so goodbye.
If they can't meet for a social within a week tell them it won't work for you and goodbye.
Then you're left with none and you can open your filters and start again.
Works for me. |
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over a year ago
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"Thought it was a simple choice of who's got the biggest cock?
But when they're all handsome and tall with large dicks, how am I supposed to decide yet at the same time not favouring one over the rest. I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket cos that's when it goes to shit and I come on too strong to that one person. "
Can you not decide by who you get on the best with through messaging? |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"No lol. Whoever is the first person you talk to and like,and they like you too and is available when you are,that's who you meet. Why do people make this place sound sooo complicated. Jeez and peaz "
Cheesy peas? |
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"Father and son bulls, standing at the top of the field. Son bull says to his dad "Hey dad! Lets run down there and fuck one of those cows". Father turns and says "No son, lets walk down and fuck them all"
That's all i have " |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Thought it was a simple choice of who's got the biggest cock?
But when they're all handsome and tall with large dicks, how am I supposed to decide yet at the same time not favouring one over the rest. I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket cos that's when it goes to shit and I come on too strong to that one person.
Can you not decide by who you get on the best with through messaging? "
But that's how I concentrate on one person at a time when I get to the proper chats. I don't want to be like that in case I'm let down! |
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"Thought it was a simple choice of who's got the biggest cock?
But when they're all handsome and tall with large dicks, how am I supposed to decide yet at the same time not favouring one over the rest. I don't want to put all my eggs in one basket cos that's when it goes to shit and I come on too strong to that one person.
Can you not decide by who you get on the best with through messaging?
But that's how I concentrate on one person at a time when I get to the proper chats. I don't want to be like that in case I'm let down!"
Maybe who has the best arsehole then. Get them to send you a picture! |
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