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Was shite.
Fortunately, the internet really became mainstream whilst i was still young enough to jump on the bandwagon, but not too young that i couldn't remember a period without it.
My generation is the last that can ever do a really objective comparison of the pros and cons of life before and after the www dot came into existance. But for the record, life before sucked donkey balls.
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"A bit like life before mobiles, where you had to be organised and be where you said you would pretty much at the right time. "
Exactly, the sheer volume of hours wasted standing around wondering if the other person is coming - i weep at the waste |
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I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras..... |
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"Was harder, no doubt. The instant availabilty of information on anything is now the norm.
How will we cope with a monster virus that grinds it to a halt?"
Well certainly there are downsides. I just mean that on balance the benefits are overwhelming. But i was thinking that sooner or later there will be a nostagia movement telling stories about how great life was before and how the internet ruined everything. Let's get rid of the internet and 'make this country great again' kind of thing. |
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"I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras..... "
Out of interest, do you have friends of a similar age who are still reluctant to fully embrace the internet (e.g. online banking)?
Honestly i have no idea why anyone goes to supermarkets anymore when you can shop online. Wretched places. |
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"Was shite.
Fortunately, the internet really became mainstream whilst i was still young enough to jump on the bandwagon, but not too young that i couldn't remember a period without it.
My generation is the last that can ever do a really objective comparison of the pros and cons of life before and after the www dot came into existance. But for the record, life before sucked donkey balls.
That is all. "
I personally liked it if you didnt want to be contacted you couldn't ,if you wanted to find your way around you looked at map and your kids went and played football or tennis and interacted with people  |
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I had the most amazing time, was travelling around the world, making my own way,just by talking to people, phoning up for quotes not knowing what really was going on, but spoke to people to get from A-B-C.
Was in dharamsala in india (dalai lamas village, when first heard of internet happening and american trendies over heard saying 'ill email you" which at the time sounded really snobbish.
And then a few years later boom computers were everywhere.
Going from an island with two phone lines out to mega broadband.
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"I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras.....
Out of interest, do you have friends of a similar age who are still reluctant to fully embrace the internet (e.g. online banking)?
Honestly i have no idea why anyone goes to supermarkets anymore when you can shop online. Wretched places. "
I have a wider variety of friends who have varied reliance on technology and each of them brings something to my life....
I would despise living in a blinkered society reliant on technology doing things for me that reduce my capacity for human interaction... |
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"I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras.....
Out of interest, do you have friends of a similar age who are still reluctant to fully embrace the internet (e.g. online banking)?
Honestly i have no idea why anyone goes to supermarkets anymore when you can shop online. Wretched places. "
I buy commodity type things online, but would rather pick certain food items. I got some amazing beef on spec in a farm butchers for a slow cooked pizza oven meal yesterday. That wouldn't have happened online. |
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I only really started using the internet and mobile phones at the end of the 90's but couldn't live without either of them now,
Can you imagine using one of them old phones again to dial a mobile number,
The ones where your finger had to go fully clockwise just for one number  |
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"I only really started using the internet and mobile phones at the end of the 90's but couldn't live without either of them now,
Can you imagine using one of them old phones again to dial a mobile number,
The ones where your finger had to go fully clockwise just for one number "
I'm not that old, but we didn't have a phone at home 'til I was 10. Seems insane now. |
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"I only really started using the internet and mobile phones at the end of the 90's but couldn't live without either of them now,
Can you imagine using one of them old phones again to dial a mobile number,
The ones where your finger had to go fully clockwise just for one number
I'm not that old, but we didn't have a phone at home 'til I was 10. Seems insane now."
I'm only going back to the 80's,
I can remember neighbours coming around and leaving 10p after they used it |
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"I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras.....
Out of interest, do you have friends of a similar age who are still reluctant to fully embrace the internet (e.g. online banking)?
Honestly i have no idea why anyone goes to supermarkets anymore when you can shop online. Wretched places.
I have a wider variety of friends who have varied reliance on technology and each of them brings something to my life....
I would despise living in a blinkered society reliant on technology doing things for me that reduce my capacity for human interaction... "
Personally i work at a very small company, but even so i have colleagues in 8 other countries that i communicate with daily. I think the capacity for human interaction has been dramatically increased. |
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I prefered it. I see people look online for information (me included) we had to get of our arses and go to the library. I rarely take my phone out. We went out all day as a kid then would get shouted in at bedtime. Noone knew where we where.
No.phone till i was about 15 and when i moved into this house didnt have one for about 6 months. Those where the days  |
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"I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras.....
Out of interest, do you have friends of a similar age who are still reluctant to fully embrace the internet (e.g. online banking)?
Honestly i have no idea why anyone goes to supermarkets anymore when you can shop online. Wretched places.
I have a wider variety of friends who have varied reliance on technology and each of them brings something to my life....
I would despise living in a blinkered society reliant on technology doing things for me that reduce my capacity for human interaction...
Personally i work at a very small company, but even so i have colleagues in 8 other countries that i communicate with daily. I think the capacity for human interaction has been dramatically increased. "
I've been lucky enough to travel all over the world meeting and enjoying the company of real people in person.... I've had a successful and productive life and feel sufficiently intelligent not to feel reliant on internet to do my thinking for me or to replace the pleasure of real-time human interaction of a sort the internet fails to provide me ....
The internet is simply a tool and I would feel so cheated to have missed out on the experiences life has given me prior to it's existence .... |
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Yeah our generation is the last.
I have found memories of pre internet times.
I wouldn't change my younger years for now days no chance its a whole different world now and it's happened in the blink of a eye it seems. |
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The thing about living in shit times is that you don't usually know they are shit. Medieval wives probably just accepted that their husbands dick tasted a lot like sweat and piss because they didn't know what showers were. If anything they were probably glad to give blowjobs and avoid another potentially deadly pregnancy.
I never minded having 4 TV channels in the 90's because you just accepted thats what there was and sometimes you watched crap TV. You'd never do that now though. |
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Both my phones are always on silent, day and night. I only ever put it on sound if I'm expecting an important call which will have been preemptive.
I check them regularly but they certainly do not intrude by demand. I've practiced this for the past 10 yrs. I see no need to do it any other way. |
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"Yeah our generation is the last.
I have found memories of pre internet times.
I wouldn't change my younger years for now days no chance its a whole different world now and it's happened in the blink of a eye it seems. "
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Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad. |
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"The thing about living in shit times is that you don't usually know they are shit. Medieval wives probably just accepted that their husbands dick tasted a lot like sweat and piss because they didn't know what showers were. If anything they were probably glad to give blowjobs and avoid another potentially deadly pregnancy.
I never minded having 4 TV channels in the 90's because you just accepted thats what there was and sometimes you watched crap TV. You'd never do that now though. "
90s there were hundreds of channels,with satellite and cable in certain large towns going back 10 years there were only 3, and they were only on in day time.think c4 changed things alot. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad."
The internet is great but i dont let the internet run my life like some.
I can take it or leave it. |
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You had to *talk* to people, to their face, socialise!! You played and lived outside most of your time and because you were active, obesity was a rare phenomenon.
With the onset of iPads, smartphones etc.. common sense has suffered because the kids of today are not experiencing life skills.
It's called progress!!
When you go for a meal/pub, how many people are glued to their phones? Get a life people, converse with those who you went to the pub with. |
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"The thing about living in shit times is that you don't usually know they are shit. Medieval wives probably just accepted that their husbands dick tasted a lot like sweat and piss because they didn't know what showers were. If anything they were probably glad to give blowjobs and avoid another potentially deadly pregnancy.
I never minded having 4 TV channels in the 90's because you just accepted thats what there was and sometimes you watched crap TV. You'd never do that now though. 90s there were hundreds of channels,with satellite and cable in certain large towns going back 10 years there were only 3, and they were only on in day time.think c4 changed things alot."
Yeah if you were made of money and could afford sky! |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad."
As you rightly say its an observation rather than a blanket statement ,,,,
However in my experience with the benefit of observing the rate transition at first hand over the years before an after the internet became an everyday easily assessable tool I would say people were far more motivated and well reasoned and capable of solving problems ....
The internet simply provides those people with means of speeding up some f those processes ..
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Sky, is that the 600 channel broadcaster that has every channel in a 4 week repeat loop?
Freeview is bad enough, better off doing things rather than be glued to TV. |
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"The thing about living in shit times is that you don't usually know they are shit. Medieval wives probably just accepted that their husbands dick tasted a lot like sweat and piss because they didn't know what showers were. If anything they were probably glad to give blowjobs and avoid another potentially deadly pregnancy.
I never minded having 4 TV channels in the 90's because you just accepted thats what there was and sometimes you watched crap TV. You'd never do that now though. 90s there were hundreds of channels,with satellite and cable in certain large towns going back 10 years there were only 3, and they were only on in day time.think c4 changed things alot.
Yeah if you were made of money and could afford sky! "
dish cost £189 + installation in late 80s, think it cost £275 all in, sky only had one or two channels was crappy at the time. Had a few good shows like simpsons and 24 jump street. Remember keith chegwin or someone doing a blind date type show too.that was shite
Was good with mtv though which we had on most of the time.
The thing with sky was that we kept in getting free leaflets through the door so never had to pay for anything.
And european tv was good too especially german  |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad."
By the same token, new technology has reduced spelling and grammar skills, why bother learning to do either when your tech will fix it for you? Same as social skills, I work with a lot of graduates and whilst they may be able to navigate the internet their social skills leave much to be desired.
The internet and new technology has its place but not at the expense of basic and fundamental skills. |
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"The thing about living in shit times is that you don't usually know they are shit. Medieval wives probably just accepted that their husbands dick tasted a lot like sweat and piss because they didn't know what showers were. If anything they were probably glad to give blowjobs and avoid another potentially deadly pregnancy.
I never minded having 4 TV channels in the 90's because you just accepted thats what there was and sometimes you watched crap TV. You'd never do that now though. 90s there were hundreds of channels,with satellite and cable in certain large towns going back 10 years there were only 3, and they were only on in day time.think c4 changed things alot.
Yeah if you were made of money and could afford sky! dish cost £189 + installation in late 80s, think it cost £275 all in, sky only had one or two channels was crappy at the time. Had a few good shows like simpsons and 24 jump street. Remember keith chegwin or someone doing a blind date type show too.that was shite
Was good with mtv though which we had on most of the time.
The thing with sky was that we kept in getting free leaflets through the door so never had to pay for anything.
And european tv was good too especially german "
Early 90's we still had a black and white TV upstairs that had a little nob to tune it to different channels; we used to be able to pick up the neighbours sky programmes |
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My parents were too cheap to get the internet when all of my friends had it, and as a result I made it to a pretty old age (for my generation) without major exposure.
I would say that my life is better with the internet, but I will also say that I genuinely miss certain things about life before the internet age. Privacy, in its truest sense, is probably what I miss most. Now, it seems the next generation doesn't even mind their privacy being imposed upon, or indeed freely given up. More information is great, until it starts to lean too much in the direction of nothing being private - which I honestly believe has already happened.
I think its a bit sad, really. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
By the same token, new technology has reduced spelling and grammar skills, why bother learning to do either when your tech will fix it for you? Same as social skills, I work with a lot of graduates and whilst they may be able to navigate the internet their social skills leave much to be desired.
The internet and new technology has its place but not at the expense of basic and fundamental skills."
I think it's changed which skills are important. We used to think memorising information was clever. But now it's obsolete. Imagine playing who wants to be a millionaire with google in front of you!! Personally i think the new skills required are higher functioning ones. |
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"I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras..... "
I was just thinking the same  |
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"I feel blessed to have spent my informative years learning how to think long before the internet came along and tried to tell me what to think ....
I truly believe I've had the best of both eras.....
I was just thinking the same "
this, |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad."
Yes it's great for that. I do business with China, usa, australia, new zealand and the eu every day. Impossible for me any other way.
But not everyhing is black and white. It will kill some very good things.
I think a youngster these days who also has good face-face interpersonal skills will be top of the pile.
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad."
no we are old enough to realize there are more important things in life than 'productivity', usually for someone else...ive never made that the point of my life and internet or not, never will..btw we are all going to die in the end..fact..noone will care about your productivity more than 10 mins after you die..i promise you..take it from a 'getting old 'un |
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I think it's important to remember that was the backward thinking, lacking motivation, unimaginative heads stuck in the past old farts who actually invented the internet ,,,,
But you try telling the internet generation nowadays that we knew a thing or two that they don't, and they'll just roll their eyes and click on their facebook page to find how many likes and friends they've accumulated since their last login
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
By the same token, new technology has reduced spelling and grammar skills, why bother learning to do either when your tech will fix it for you? Same as social skills, I work with a lot of graduates and whilst they may be able to navigate the internet their social skills leave much to be desired.
The internet and new technology has its place but not at the expense of basic and fundamental skills.
I think it's changed which skills are important. We used to think memorising information was clever. But now it's obsolete. Imagine playing who wants to be a millionaire with google in front of you!! Personally i think the new skills required are higher functioning ones."
Possibly and I agree with you to an extent, but you need the basics to get a foot onto the career ladder, I've worked with highly intelligent graduates that have these new skills but they don't interview well due to lack of social skills, in my mind both are equally valid. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
Yes it's great for that. I do business with China, usa, australia, new zealand and the eu every day. Impossible for me any other way.
But not everyhing is black and white. It will kill some very good things.
I think a youngster these days who also has good face-face interpersonal skills will be top of the pile.
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No offence but i totally disagree with the last line. It's a commonly held belief too.
Personally i work with Chinese too and would say that in general their technical skills are better than interpersonal ones. But contrast that with the UK which is full of "tim, nice but dims" who don't actually have any tangible skills that aren't ten a penny on the international market.
It's all very well being a good team player, presenting well and getting along with people - especially useful skills in sales. But if you can't back it up with something of real substance then it's pointless. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
Yes it's great for that. I do business with China, usa, australia, new zealand and the eu every day. Impossible for me any other way.
But not everyhing is black and white. It will kill some very good things.
I think a youngster these days who also has good face-face interpersonal skills will be top of the pile.
No offence but i totally disagree with the last line. It's a commonly held belief too.
Personally i work with Chinese too and would say that in general their technical skills are better than interpersonal ones. But contrast that with the UK which is full of "tim, nice but dims" who don't actually have any tangible skills that aren't ten a penny on the international market.
It's all very well being a good team player, presenting well and getting along with people - especially useful skills in sales. But if you can't back it up with something of real substance then it's pointless. "
That's why I purposely included the words 'also has' |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
Yes it's great for that. I do business with China, usa, australia, new zealand and the eu every day. Impossible for me any other way.
But not everyhing is black and white. It will kill some very good things.
I think a youngster these days who also has good face-face interpersonal skills will be top of the pile.
No offence but i totally disagree with the last line. It's a commonly held belief too.
Personally i work with Chinese too and would say that in general their technical skills are better than interpersonal ones. But contrast that with the UK which is full of "tim, nice but dims" who don't actually have any tangible skills that aren't ten a penny on the international market.
It's all very well being a good team player, presenting well and getting along with people - especially useful skills in sales. But if you can't back it up with something of real substance then it's pointless.
That's why I purposely included the words 'also has' "
Ah yes, sorry jumped the gun there! Just see far too many linkedin posts claiming soft skills are the most important thing for graduates to have! Makes my piss boil. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
By the same token, new technology has reduced spelling and grammar skills, why bother learning to do either when your tech will fix it for you? Same as social skills, I work with a lot of graduates and whilst they may be able to navigate the internet their social skills leave much to be desired.
The internet and new technology has its place but not at the expense of basic and fundamental skills.
I think it's changed which skills are important. We used to think memorising information was clever. But now it's obsolete. Imagine playing who wants to be a millionaire with google in front of you!! Personally i think the new skills required are higher functioning ones.
Possibly and I agree with you to an extent, but you need the basics to get a foot onto the career ladder, I've worked with highly intelligent graduates that have these new skills but they don't interview well due to lack of social skills, in my mind both are equally valid. "
We all have different life experiences that shape our views. Personally i work with a lot of sales people so the average person i meet is charming, well presented and doesn't have a thought in their head that wasn't put there by someone else.
Part of the problem is our university system. PhDs require "Originality" as a key requirement. After ~6,000 years of written human history that now basically means writing about a subject so obscure, nobody has ever cared enough to write about it.
So i meet lot's of graduates with lovely smiles, sharp suits that are totally useless and want wages 5x the chinese / eastern european / indian person i can hire for the same job. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
By the same token, new technology has reduced spelling and grammar skills, why bother learning to do either when your tech will fix it for you? Same as social skills, I work with a lot of graduates and whilst they may be able to navigate the internet their social skills leave much to be desired.
The internet and new technology has its place but not at the expense of basic and fundamental skills.
I think it's changed which skills are important. We used to think memorising information was clever. But now it's obsolete. Imagine playing who wants to be a millionaire with google in front of you!! Personally i think the new skills required are higher functioning ones.
Possibly and I agree with you to an extent, but you need the basics to get a foot onto the career ladder, I've worked with highly intelligent graduates that have these new skills but they don't interview well due to lack of social skills, in my mind both are equally valid.
We all have different life experiences that shape our views. Personally i work with a lot of sales people so the average person i meet is charming, well presented and doesn't have a thought in their head that wasn't put there by someone else.
Part of the problem is our university system. PhDs require "Originality" as a key requirement. After ~6,000 years of written human history that now basically means writing about a subject so obscure, nobody has ever cared enough to write about it.
So i meet lot's of graduates with lovely smiles, sharp suits that are totally useless and want wages 5x the chinese / eastern european / indian person i can hire for the same job. "
all depends if you're selling mop heads, fake jewelry or billion dollar clincher deals.
A lot of it is gift of the gab. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
By the same token, new technology has reduced spelling and grammar skills, why bother learning to do either when your tech will fix it for you? Same as social skills, I work with a lot of graduates and whilst they may be able to navigate the internet their social skills leave much to be desired.
The internet and new technology has its place but not at the expense of basic and fundamental skills.
I think it's changed which skills are important. We used to think memorising information was clever. But now it's obsolete. Imagine playing who wants to be a millionaire with google in front of you!! Personally i think the new skills required are higher functioning ones.
Possibly and I agree with you to an extent, but you need the basics to get a foot onto the career ladder, I've worked with highly intelligent graduates that have these new skills but they don't interview well due to lack of social skills, in my mind both are equally valid.
We all have different life experiences that shape our views. Personally i work with a lot of sales people so the average person i meet is charming, well presented and doesn't have a thought in their head that wasn't put there by someone else.
Part of the problem is our university system. PhDs require "Originality" as a key requirement. After ~6,000 years of written human history that now basically means writing about a subject so obscure, nobody has ever cared enough to write about it.
So i meet lot's of graduates with lovely smiles, sharp suits that are totally useless and want wages 5x the chinese / eastern european / indian person i can hire for the same job. all depends if you're selling mop heads, fake jewelry or billion dollar clincher deals.
A lot of it is gift of the gab."
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
By the same token, new technology has reduced spelling and grammar skills, why bother learning to do either when your tech will fix it for you? Same as social skills, I work with a lot of graduates and whilst they may be able to navigate the internet their social skills leave much to be desired.
The internet and new technology has its place but not at the expense of basic and fundamental skills.
I think it's changed which skills are important. We used to think memorising information was clever. But now it's obsolete. Imagine playing who wants to be a millionaire with google in front of you!! Personally i think the new skills required are higher functioning ones.
Possibly and I agree with you to an extent, but you need the basics to get a foot onto the career ladder, I've worked with highly intelligent graduates that have these new skills but they don't interview well due to lack of social skills, in my mind both are equally valid. "
Working in higher education, I see this a lot and it drives me demented. |
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i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh) |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)"
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. "
so ... it still had porn, free music etc ... it's just took longer to load ... and as for google, that's part of what makes the internet as exciting as rubbing your face with a brick these days compared to when it was like the wild west with no sheriffs to tell you what to do |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. "
speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things. |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things. "
The amount of content has exploded. |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded."
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded.
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses"
Lol, try jacking off to the porn on the internet in 1995. Firstly it'll be pictures because the damn bandwidth is too small for video. Second they load from the top of the screen so it takes you ages to find a face you like, then you realise she's got two horrible plastic chest bollucks where her tits should be. Another 2 minutes to get the next picture to load
The luddites are good fun though. |
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The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded.
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses"
That's true, but using it is optional. We have 2 weeks away on holiday with no wifi or 4g and actually make it back home alive! |
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over a year ago
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I'm always telling my children how lucky they are to have a world of information at the push of a button. They laugh when I tell them I had to spend hours at the library to get my homework done!!! |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded.
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses
Lol, try jacking off to the porn on the internet in 1995. Firstly it'll be pictures because the damn bandwidth is too small for video. Second they load from the top of the screen so it takes you ages to find a face you like, then you realise she's got two horrible plastic chest bollucks where her tits should be. Another 2 minutes to get the next picture to load
The luddites are good fun though. "
but you wouldn't know would you ... you were 9 lol .... i'm guessing you probably didn't get a bash at using the internet properly untill you started uni in lets say some time in the mid noughties ... i don't think you're really old enough to be able to compare .... there's pros and cons to it's existence, in equal measure |
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"That's true, but using it is optional. "
have you applied for a job lately or live in a town where all the banks have been shut etc ? ... it's getting more and more enforced and it's all underpinned by data farming which is a right ball ache unless you're into id theft, then it's a boon |
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"That's true, but using it is optional.
have you applied for a job lately or live in a town where all the banks have been shut etc ? ... it's getting more and more enforced and it's all underpinned by data farming which is a right ball ache unless you're into id theft, then it's a boon"
Are you going off grid? |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded.
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses
Lol, try jacking off to the porn on the internet in 1995. Firstly it'll be pictures because the damn bandwidth is too small for video. Second they load from the top of the screen so it takes you ages to find a face you like, then you realise she's got two horrible plastic chest bollucks where her tits should be. Another 2 minutes to get the next picture to load
The luddites are good fun though.
but you wouldn't know would you ... you were 9 lol .... i'm guessing you probably didn't get a bash at using the internet properly untill you started uni in lets say some time in the mid noughties ... i don't think you're really old enough to be able to compare .... there's pros and cons to it's existence, in equal measure"
The internet didn't suddenly change the world in 1995 ffs. Most the best sites wouldn't be around for another 10 years so you're making a false comparison as usual. Virtually nothing is perfectly balanced 50:50 in pro's and con's either. |
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"That's true, but using it is optional.
have you applied for a job lately or live in a town where all the banks have been shut etc ? ... it's getting more and more enforced and it's all underpinned by data farming which is a right ball ache unless you're into id theft, then it's a boon
Are you going off grid?"
i already am as far a energy and water goes .... i keep considering whether to cut the cord on the internet the way that things are turning out with it ... we'll see |
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have you applied for a job lately or live in a town where all the banks have been shut etc ? ... it's getting more and more enforced and it's all underpinned by data farming which is a right ball ache unless you're into id theft, then it's a boon
Are you going off grid?
i already am as far a energy and water goes .... i keep considering whether to cut the cord on the internet the way that things are turning out with it ... we'll see"
Your life would be miserable without the politics forum. |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded.
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses
Lol, try jacking off to the porn on the internet in 1995. Firstly it'll be pictures because the damn bandwidth is too small for video. Second they load from the top of the screen so it takes you ages to find a face you like, then you realise she's got two horrible plastic chest bollucks where her tits should be. Another 2 minutes to get the next picture to load
The luddites are good fun though.
but you wouldn't know would you ... you were 9 lol .... i'm guessing you probably didn't get a bash at using the internet properly untill you started uni in lets say some time in the mid noughties ... i don't think you're really old enough to be able to compare .... there's pros and cons to it's existence, in equal measure
The internet didn't suddenly change the world in 1995 ffs. Most the best sites wouldn't be around for another 10 years so you're making a false comparison as usual. Virtually nothing is perfectly balanced 50:50 in pro's and con's either. "
it's a fact that you are too young to be able to begin to compare life before and after ... and how does one quantify what a "best" site is ffs? lol |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded.
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses
Lol, try jacking off to the porn on the internet in 1995. Firstly it'll be pictures because the damn bandwidth is too small for video. Second they load from the top of the screen so it takes you ages to find a face you like, then you realise she's got two horrible plastic chest bollucks where her tits should be. Another 2 minutes to get the next picture to load
The luddites are good fun though.
but you wouldn't know would you ... you were 9 lol .... i'm guessing you probably didn't get a bash at using the internet properly untill you started uni in lets say some time in the mid noughties ... i don't think you're really old enough to be able to compare .... there's pros and cons to it's existence, in equal measure
The internet didn't suddenly change the world in 1995 ffs. Most the best sites wouldn't be around for another 10 years so you're making a false comparison as usual. Virtually nothing is perfectly balanced 50:50 in pro's and con's either.
it's a fact that you are too young to be able to begin to compare life before and after ... and how does one quantify what a "best" site is ffs? lol"
Any reasonably intelligent person could look at a list of the most popular websites and realise most didn't exist in 1995. Google, facebook, youtube, wikipedia to name a few. |
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"i seem to remember that there was a lot of fun and madventures to be had in life before internet and mobile phones ... here's a taster of just one of the thins folks used to fill their time with ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRpMctqzVOI
... (and in any case i'm not sure people who were 9 years old when i was using the internet can really compare life before and after it's inception tbh)
The internet in 1995 was not remotely comparable to what it is now. Google wasn't founded until 1998 for a start. speed and graphics are really the only things that has changed things.
The amount of content has exploded.
along with the amount of intrusiveness, crime, fraud, tracking, bullying, stalking etc etc ....it's not all roses
Lol, try jacking off to the porn on the internet in 1995. Firstly it'll be pictures because the damn bandwidth is too small for video. Second they load from the top of the screen so it takes you ages to find a face you like, then you realise she's got two horrible plastic chest bollucks where her tits should be. Another 2 minutes to get the next picture to load
The luddites are good fun though.
but you wouldn't know would you ... you were 9 lol .... i'm guessing you probably didn't get a bash at using the internet properly untill you started uni in lets say some time in the mid noughties ... i don't think you're really old enough to be able to compare .... there's pros and cons to it's existence, in equal measure
The internet didn't suddenly change the world in 1995 ffs. Most the best sites wouldn't be around for another 10 years so you're making a false comparison as usual. Virtually nothing is perfectly balanced 50:50 in pro's and con's either.
it's a fact that you are too young to be able to begin to compare life before and after ... and how does one quantify what a "best" site is ffs? lol
Any reasonably intelligent person could look at a list of the most popular websites and realise most didn't exist in 1995. Google, facebook, youtube, wikipedia to name a few. "
are you saying they are the best sites that the internet has ever had to offer? pmsl |
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"I was about 14 I think when we signed up to UK Online. Heady days... BBSs! Geocities! Alta Vista!
I'm glad I had my childhood without it but I can't imagine not having it now."
alta vista on netscape |
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"I was about 14 I think when we signed up to UK Online. Heady days... BBSs! Geocities! Alta Vista!
I'm glad I had my childhood without it but I can't imagine not having it now.
alta vista on netscape "
Scrolling marquees as far as the eye could see. Midi files looping endlessly. The wonder that was animated gifs!
90s internet was a strange place. |
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"Was shite.
Fortunately, the internet really became mainstream whilst i was still young enough to jump on the bandwagon, but not too young that i couldn't remember a period without it.
My generation is the last that can ever do a really objective comparison of the pros and cons of life before and after the www dot came into existance. But for the record, life before sucked donkey balls.
That is all. "
Now I enjoyed more before the internet came along. Loved getting out there and expecting and experiencing the unknown, today everybody knows everybodys business...what they are doing and where they will be ect... go back to just basic txt messages and phone calls I say and a pub/club where you can smoke in (non smoker I might add!) was better times back Then! Internet and mobile phones have become a dangerous device And has alot to answer for, should have stayed on computers at home. Bring back the good old times and party's I say shame some of you guys just missed out on this by just a few years and will never understand it  |
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"I was about 14 I think when we signed up to UK Online. Heady days... BBSs! Geocities! Alta Vista!
I'm glad I had my childhood without it but I can't imagine not having it now.
alta vista on netscape
Scrolling marquees as far as the eye could see. Midi files looping endlessly. The wonder that was animated gifs!
90s internet was a strange place."
downloading the matrix and phantom menace months before their release .... play station games downloadable before they were released in the uk all for free .... david ike lol |
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Yahoo messenger and icq were great places to get meets, sadly there were a few deaths i believe and that closed a few messangers and groups down.
We were camming in 90s and was a nightmare meeting females couples on cam, lots would be a vid loop or ud see a big hairy hand with no female in sight |
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"Yahoo messenger and icq were great places to get meets, sadly there were a few deaths i believe and that closed a few messangers and groups down.
We were camming in 90s and was a nightmare meeting females couples on cam, lots would be a vid loop or ud see a big hairy hand with no female in sight"
there used to be quite a lot of sites for fetish, bdsm and swingers to meet and cam and stuff .... but then things started getting cleaned up in the noughties. there was a surprisingly huge amount of porn film repositories that were free to access in the 90's too ... although the download times were pretty long back then and the films were divided up into their composite scenes |
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"I wish there was no internet then the world would be a better place in my book
Why?"
less opportunity for bad shit to be disseminated so widely, quickly and easily maybe? |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.no we are old enough to realize there are more important things in life than 'productivity', usually for someone else...ive never made that the point of my life and internet or not, never will..btw we are all going to die in the end..fact..noone will care about your productivity more than 10 mins after you die..i promise you..take it from a 'getting old 'un "
Well you say that but productivity is the heart of the economy which is usually the number one topic in most elections, so when push comes to shove, that's what most people care about.
Plenty of people die either wishing they'd achieved more or surrounded by others who wished that person had achieved more. |
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"I only really started using the internet and mobile phones at the end of the 90's but couldn't live without either of them now,
Can you imagine using one of them old phones again to dial a mobile number,
The ones where your finger had to go fully clockwise just for one number
I'm not that old, but we didn't have a phone at home 'til I was 10. Seems insane now."
I was around 10 aswell and it was a shared line. |
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only recently got a mobile phone after not having one for months and months...what lovely months they were and i got so much more done, like loads...out of the need for something to do i've given a lot of the house a make over, front and back garden done right up, new timbers in the old shed roof, new felt, tons of new plantings, borders all done, painted the common areas of the house top to bottom, new carpets up the stairs and upper landing, new bathroom floor, new bath side handmade by me (just wanted to see if i could...i could) and i attribute a lot of that to not having a phone to sit and piss about with..now i've replaced a none internet none smart simple phone because it makes me a much more productive human being, my internetting is limited to when i open the laptop of an evening and i don't sit farting time away scrolling through social media in my spare time or chatting mundane shite on my phone any more...less internet has made me do a lot more with my time |
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"only recently got a mobile phone after not having one for months and months...what lovely months they were and i got so much more done, like loads...out of the need for something to do i've given a lot of the house a make over, front and back garden done right up, new timbers in the old shed roof, new felt, tons of new plantings, borders all done, painted the common areas of the house top to bottom, new carpets up the stairs and upper landing, new bathroom floor, new bath side handmade by me (just wanted to see if i could...i could) and i attribute a lot of that to not having a phone to sit and piss about with..now i've replaced a none internet none smart simple phone because it makes me a much more productive human being, my internetting is limited to when i open the laptop of an evening and i don't sit farting time away scrolling through social media in my spare time or chatting mundane shite on my phone any more...less internet has made me do a lot more with my time "
Bang on my brother! we ain't that much older, we just experienced parts of both worlds. In just 7-10 years below us,they sadly didn't experience what we did and missed out unfortunately and only know one way (sad times ahead!) Fucking posh talking robots society has become  |
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I remember having to take a photo of my dinner, get the bus into town, go to the photo shop, wait an hour for it to develop, get the bus back home then have to walk round all my friends house showing them a picture of my dinner. Thanks to the Internet this is now so much easier and I get to enjoy a warm meal.
Thank you Internet |
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"What happened to the phone box you had to put 2p in it to make contact & how did swingers find oneanother ? "
we used contact magazines like Vibrations, Experience, Readers wives. Was a lot more reliable as it cost money to contact people. As for the old phone boxes with press button A you could tap out the number and make free phone calls. Our first phone line was a party line, so you could listen in on your neighbors calls if you were that inclined, but we never did, you just didn't in those days.
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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad."
Unfortunately the same internet that makes work faster can also cripple it when it goes down. I returned to work after a 7 year gap and was surprised st reliant upon the internet the workplace has become.
I worked in a hospital with no internet for a whole morning. I couldn't access anything, no patient files, no results, etc
My current workplace has had outages too and even our phones are connected. Such reliance will cripple us one day when a major attack may bring down servers and we'll be left sitting at desks unable to do any work.
Recent cyber attack on the NHS is just the tip of the iceberg of what can happen. |
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No-one who's lived the majority of their life in the internet age can convince me people are more intelligent more motivated better prepared to deal with the future and than those who've lived life pre-internet days and for them to even try would simply prove my point .....
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"No-one who's lived the majority of their life in the internet age can convince me people are more intelligent more motivated better prepared to deal with the future and than those who've lived life pre-internet days and for them to even try would simply prove my point .....
Yeah suck on that smombie's "
Hang on,I'll just ask my phone if you are right. |
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"No-one who's lived the majority of their life in the internet age can convince me people are more intelligent more motivated better prepared to deal with the future and than those who've lived life pre-internet days and for them to even try would simply prove my point .....
Yeah suck on that smombie's
Hang on,I'll just ask my phone if you are right. "
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"Was harder, no doubt. The instant availabilty of information on anything is now the norm.
How will we cope with a monster virus that grinds it to a halt?
Well certainly there are downsides. I just mean that on balance the benefits are overwhelming. But i was thinking that sooner or later there will be a nostagia movement telling stories about how great life was before and how the internet ruined everything. Let's get rid of the internet and 'make this country great again' kind of thing. "
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The formative and early years of working were all pre-internet. I enjoyed those times immensely. I am pleased much of my personal development happened through face-to-face interaction with lots of people. However I do value the speed with which I can do things now and the plethora of things I can do now that I wouldn't have had the bandwidth for without instant access to the necessary information.
I too, think I have and continue to enjoy the benefits of both worlds |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
Unfortunately the same internet that makes work faster can also cripple it when it goes down. I returned to work after a 7 year gap and was surprised st reliant upon the internet the workplace has become.
I worked in a hospital with no internet for a whole morning. I couldn't access anything, no patient files, no results, etc
My current workplace has had outages too and even our phones are connected. Such reliance will cripple us one day when a major attack may bring down servers and we'll be left sitting at desks unable to do any work.
Recent cyber attack on the NHS is just the tip of the iceberg of what can happen. "
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Its the Illuminatis master plan, get you hooked then withdraw the service and kabooooooom.
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I saw an old pic from a 1980's appeal - all these blokes in suits holding brick sized things to their ear...
The days of sauna parties & squatting ... of shared beds & waking up with strangers ...
And nothing better than occasionally going off-line ( no wifi signal) ... helps to talk and enjoy the real world ... |
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ironically enough, before the tinter-bollox happened, if my generation wanted their 8 bit computer to do something cool, we would write a program that would make it happen |
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I thought the web was amazing when it first started. Now I'm not so sure.
Necessary evil now I feel but hate what it's doing, especially socially, to kids. Social media, ironically, is making folk less sociable and I firmly believe it's having a detrimental efffect on young folks mental health.
Whe you see how much time some spend addicted (and it is an addiction) to their phones it's just not healthy.
Depression, social anxiety, mood swings, low energy. All connected in my view. |
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and your opinion based offerings are fact? all you've written is about your nostalgia for life after 2000ad pmsl ... you aren't old enough to know how to compare life before and life after the internet .... deal with it  |
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"and your opinion based offerings are fact? all you've written is about your nostalgia for life after 2000ad pmsl ... you aren't old enough to know how to compare life before and life after the internet .... deal with it "
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad."
What is productivity? What we in the west perceive as productive isn't seen as that constructive in developing countries and visa versa. What we see as important and urgent are also perceived very differently in developing countries. Many of us have our values controlled and formulated as a result of work expectations pushed on us by society.
In response to your comment I'd say I'm far more productive as a result of not constantly having to hear or respond to my phone.
Recent studies have shown the mobile phone being the most unproductive gaget, creating a generation of people who are completely distracted by it with little discipline or control over it. |
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"Without meaning to put words in anyones mouth, it seems like many people who prefer the pre-internet age aren't massively concerned about productivity in their lifes. That's an observation, not a criticism. As in spending an afternoon to achieve a mundane task that could now be done online in an hour doesn't strike them as necessarily bad.
What is productivity? What we in the west perceive as productive isn't seen as that constructive in developing countries and visa versa. What we see as important and urgent are also perceived very differently in developing countries. Many of us have our values controlled and formulated as a result of work expectations pushed on us by society.
In response to your comment I'd say I'm far more productive as a result of not constantly having to hear or respond to my phone.
Recent studies have shown the mobile phone being the most unproductive gaget, creating a generation of people who are completely distracted by it with little discipline or control over it. "
I'm glad you asked
Productivity is the ratio of outputs to inputs. The most common input is time and the most essential outputs are food, shelter, heat, clothes, water and medical care. Developing countries are poor by definition because many people lack a sifficient quantity of those things. One thing you notice about developing countries is that it's mind numbingly difficult to get anything done, usually because they have a culture that doesn't value productivity (e.g. thailand), mass corruption (e.g. south africa) and shite infrastructure (e.g. india). In medieval times, peasants worked 6-7 days a week because their productivity was so low, they had to just to eat. Productivity is also the only way that long-term, wages can sustinably rise and most people want more of that. |
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"Oh the irony of all these people using the internet to whinge about the internet. Objectively most the comments are just nostagia about the past rather than factual. "
What's the irony of using a tool?
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"Oh the irony of all these people using the internet to whinge about the internet. Objectively most the comments are just nostagia about the past rather than factual.
What's the irony of using a tool?
I've never claimed that there are no downsides to the internet, just that the benefits massively outweigh the downsides. But for the people who go on and on about the negatives and truly believe the world was better without - don't use it then!? Nobody is forced to use it!
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"Oh the irony of all these people using the internet to whinge about the internet. Objectively most the comments are just nostagia about the past rather than factual.
What's the irony of using a tool?
I've never claimed that there are no downsides to the internet, just that the benefits massively outweigh the downsides. But for the people who go on and on about the negatives and truly believe the world was better without - don't use it then!? Nobody is forced to use it!
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The internet is a fantastic tool but it's utter nonsense and quite disrespectful to dismiss the first hand experience of those who've experienced life before and after its inception and development as nostalgia rather than fact....
That fact is that might be your opinion..... but trying to tell people what to think devalues that opinion when it said with valid corroboration |
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"Life Before the Internet Was shite.
Fortunately, the internet really became mainstream whilst i was still young enough to jump on the bandwagon, but not too young that i couldn't remember a period without it.
My generation is the last that can ever do a really objective comparison of the pros and cons of life before and after the www dot came into existance. But for the record, life before sucked donkey balls.
That is all. "
the way you've structured your opening gambit just means that the you think the first six years of your life "sucked donkey balls" .... and while that is possibly true it would logically follow that you haven't the faintest inkling of what adult life was like pre-mainstream internet circa 95-96 ... just saying |
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"The thing about living in shit times is that you don't usually know they are shit. Medieval wives probably just accepted that their husbands dick tasted a lot like sweat and piss because they didn't know what showers were. If anything they were probably glad to give blowjobs and avoid another potentially deadly pregnancy.
I never minded having 4 TV channels in the 90's because you just accepted thats what there was and sometimes you watched crap TV. You'd never do that now though. 90s there were hundreds of channels,with satellite and cable in certain large towns going back 10 years there were only 3, and they were only on in day time.think c4 changed things alot.
Yeah if you were made of money and could afford sky! "
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"Oh the irony of all these people using the internet to whinge about the internet. Objectively most the comments are just nostagia about the past rather than factual.
What's the irony of using a tool?
I've never claimed that there are no downsides to the internet, just that the benefits massively outweigh the downsides. But for the people who go on and on about the negatives and truly believe the world was better without - don't use it then!? Nobody is forced to use it!
The internet is a fantastic tool but it's utter nonsense and quite disrespectful to dismiss the first hand experience of those who've experienced life before and after its inception and development as nostalgia rather than fact....
That fact is that might be your opinion..... but trying to tell people what to think devalues that opinion when it said with valid corroboration "
I think you've put your points over objectively and well, but others engaging in the mass stereotyping of young people as socially inadequate and everyone pre-internet as hypersociable is patently false. |
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"... others engaging in the mass stereotyping of young people as socially inadequate and everyone pre-internet as hypersociable is patently false. "
but you're mass stereotyping the generations previous to you personally, as somehow having unproductive lives |
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"Oh the irony of all these people using the internet to whinge about the internet. Objectively most the comments are just nostagia about the past rather than factual.
What's the irony of using a tool?
I've never claimed that there are no downsides to the internet, just that the benefits massively outweigh the downsides. But for the people who go on and on about the negatives and truly believe the world was better without - don't use it then!? Nobody is forced to use it!
The internet is a fantastic tool but it's utter nonsense and quite disrespectful to dismiss the first hand experience of those who've experienced life before and after its inception and development as nostalgia rather than fact....
That fact is that might be your opinion..... but trying to tell people what to think devalues that opinion when it said with valid corroboration
I think you've put your points over objectively and well, but others engaging in the mass stereotyping of young people as socially inadequate and everyone pre-internet as hypersociable is patently false. "
I think in many ways the young generation totally outperform their peer groups when it comes to being socially interactive .... you only need observe their openness and willingness to accept each-other for who they are rather than what they are....it constantly amazes me to see how easily they celebrate the joy of just being together without the inhibition of my generation .....
Surely that can only lead to a better future for humanity and social media and the internet plays its part in that....
But its totally inaccurate to maintain older generations who've lived and live without the cyber medium are any less advanced in social skills, emotional skills, educational and technical skills needed by society
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"... others engaging in the mass stereotyping of young people as socially inadequate and everyone pre-internet as hypersociable is patently false.
but you're mass stereotyping the generations previous to you personally, as somehow having unproductive lives "
No you're just choosing to read it that way and conflating two things, as usual. The fact that the internet has enabled mass improvements in productivity is a fact, not a generalisation. It doesn't mean people before had "unproductive lives". |
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Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion. |
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion. "
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click "
Personally i'm all for the achievements of pre-internet society, the romans are my personal favourite. Well ahead of their time. I love the time saving elements the internet enables, that's not a slight against any particular generation. |
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click "
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were. "
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. |
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were.
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. "
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click "
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The energy in one barrel of oil equates roughly to 12,000 man hours of work!.
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
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Poor argument behave yourself ....lol
Without wishing to patronise,,,, your skills are better than subjectively personalising a criticism of someone's ability to respond with a salient observation ...
I rest my case but its been fun as always ..
I really enjoy your threads but I don't concede defeat
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were.
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. "
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click .
The energy in one barrel of oil equates roughly to 12,000 man hours of work!.
And they lecture you on the productivity gains on a mobile phone "
Ahem don't lecture me about the effort needed for extracting hydro-carbons
I've spent a whole career digging holes in the desert and under the sea,,,, sheesh the nerve of people on here.....
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
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Poor argument behave yourself ....lol
Without wishing to patronise,,,, your skills are better than subjectively personalising a criticism of someone's ability to respond with a salient observation ...
I rest my case but its been fun as always ..
I really enjoy your threads but I don't concede defeat
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There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were.
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. .
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If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants"
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were.
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. .
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If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants"
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We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were.
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. .
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Isaac Newton
If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants"
I think Isaac Newton was being fairly modest. I didn't know he used it 'first'.
Little known fact, Newton didn't propose gravity himself, he cheated and just found it on Google. Well, AskJeeves back then |
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There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click .
The energy in one barrel of oil equates roughly to 12,000 man hours of work!.
And they lecture you on the productivity gains on a mobile phone
Ahem don't lecture me about the effort needed for extracting hydro-carbons
I've spent a whole career digging holes in the desert and under the sea,,,, sheesh the nerve of people on here.....
Try doing that with a laptop "
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If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants
It far predates Isaac Newton! You Brits....always claiming credit for things "
Rubbish! We invented the phrase and we invented gravity. Fact.
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It was good and bad. Good in the sense that we had to go outdoors as kids. We had to socialise. Now kids are growing up without as much in terms of social skills because they literally don't need to leave the house anymore.
I find I feel older than I actually am, in the sense technology has advanced so far in 20 years, it makes it feel so much longer.
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Isaac Newton
If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants
It far predates Isaac Newton! You Brits....always claiming credit for things "
Rubbish! We invented the phrase and we invented gravity. Fact.
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were.
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. .
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Isaac Newton
If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants
It far predates Isaac Newton! You Brits....always claiming credit for things "
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
We stand on the shoulders of giants, for sure. But in doing so we are taller than they ever were.
Did you make that up or quote it? Just lie to me and say you came up with it. That be like some profound shit right there. .
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If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants
What part of "lie to me" wasn't clear? "
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If I've seen further its because I stood on the shoulders of giants
It far predates Isaac Newton! You Brits....always claiming credit for things
Rubbish! We invented the phrase and we invented gravity. Fact.
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In a mad slip the op said the internet is an american export, when that's clearly ours too "
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
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Poor argument behave yourself ....lol
Without wishing to patronise,,,, your skills are better than subjectively personalising a criticism of someone's ability to respond with a salient observation ...
I rest my case but its been fun as always ..
I really enjoy your threads but I don't concede defeat
You know I love you, soxy. Your witty retorts are classic.
I don't concede defeat, either. Especially not on the 4th of July! "
Absolutely it seems the whole world is celebrating your special day ...
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
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Poor argument behave yourself ....lol
Without wishing to patronise,,,, your skills are better than subjectively personalising a criticism of someone's ability to respond with a salient observation ...
I rest my case but its been fun as always ..
I really enjoy your threads but I don't concede defeat
You know I love you, soxy. Your witty retorts are classic.
I don't concede defeat, either. Especially not on the 4th of July!
Absolutely it seems the whole world is celebrating your special day ...
Those North Koreans even arranged a fireworks display especially for Donald "
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"Oooph! This thread has morphed into a "my generation is better than yours" debate. At least tbats better than the usual "my generation had it so much harder than yours" discussion
There are positives and negatives to the pre and post internet ages. But in all, I think you'd have a hard time convincing people to give it all up, mostly because it has been a net gain to our lives. There will always be a few who disagree, and that's great because it keeps things somewhat grounded, but it doesn't change reality. In my opinion.
I don't want anyone to give it up .....
I'd just prefer to see those who feel their familiarity with-it entitles them to express a misguided arrogance which attempts to diminishes the achievements of society pre-internet....
Any fool can swipe and click
I guess I didn't see anyone diminishing the achievments of society pre-internet. I just saw people lauding the age of the internet and all that it has enabled to be achieved.
Even you have to admit that your last statement is a straw man. What people do with the internet today is far behind swiping and clicking. Your skills are better than that poor argument,soxy
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Poor argument behave yourself ....lol
Without wishing to patronise,,,, your skills are better than subjectively personalising a criticism of someone's ability to respond with a salient observation ...
I rest my case but its been fun as always ..
I really enjoy your threads but I don't concede defeat
You know I love you, soxy. Your witty retorts are classic.
I don't concede defeat, either. Especially not on the 4th of July!
Absolutely it seems the whole world is celebrating your special day ...
Those North Koreans even arranged a fireworks display especially for Donald
Below the belt! "
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Those North Koreans even arranged a fireworks display especially for Donald
Below the belt! "
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Absolutely it seems the whole world is celebrating your special day ...
Those North Koreans even arranged a fireworks display especially for Donald
Below the belt!
All British schoolkids are taught that the Americans do fireworks and a holiday on 4th July to cheer themselves up after being thrown out of the Commonwealth. That's true isn't it?"
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"You're all meanies. "
Come on, we're leaving the EU so we can join up with you again. It's just like when Doland Trump teamed up with Bobby Lashley at Wrestlemania. They won. Trump even tweeted a video of it recently as a reminder we're stronger together.
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"You're all meanies.
Come on, we're leaving the EU so we can join up with you again. It's just like when Doland Trump teamed up with Bobby Lashley at Wrestlemania. They won. Trump even tweeted a video of it recently as a reminder we're stronger together.
#notMYpresident"
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"You're all meanies.
Come on, we're leaving the EU so we can join up with you again. It's just like when Doland Trump teamed up with Bobby Lashley at Wrestlemania. They won. Trump even tweeted a video of it recently as a reminder we're stronger together.
#notMYpresident.
I'm waiting for his daughter to tweet.
#notmydad "
To be fair to him, he took a stone cold stunner from steve austin. That would crack Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn in half. |
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"You're all meanies.
Come on, we're leaving the EU so we can join up with you again. It's just like when Doland Trump teamed up with Bobby Lashley at Wrestlemania. They won. Trump even tweeted a video of it recently as a reminder we're stronger together.
#notMYpresident.
I'm waiting for his daughter to tweet.
#notmydad
To be fair to him, he took a stone cold stunner from steve austin. That would crack Theresa May or Jeremy Corbyn in half. "
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