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By *oxy_minx OP Woman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
Right, I hate being a single female who is pretty useless at DIY (choking whilst I am admitting that)
But, I am looking at buying new furniture for my bedroom, however, I have an inset set of shelves that have been faced as if they were a door, so these would need to be removed to allow said item of furniture to be flush against the wall, and which hopefully I may just get away with just doing that.
I also have a cupboard that holds my boiler which I would need to remove the door, to give me space to move things down a bit and replace with some sort of curtain (pretty of course)
What would be the easiest course of action for both jobs? And what tools would I need, or do I just admit defeat at the first hurdle and pay someone without trying first?
With the shelf framing please note that there is also at least 30 years worth of paint to also take into consideration  |
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By *oxy_minx OP Woman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Typical, two men to start make useless bloody comments  
Are the screws holding the shelves/door up slotted or crossheads ?
Find the correct screwdriver to remove them"
I have no idea, hence the 30 years worth of paint comment, for all I know they could have been glued on, so no screws at all? If I knew the answers I wouldn't have posted the question. |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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and putting a curtain up would be easy enough. you could use net curtain wire stretched across (measure the space and get the person selling you the wire to cut it to length as they're hard to cut yourself), or if you enjoy sawing and are good at that an actual curtain pole.
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By *oxy_minx OP Woman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"also, how come you only have to take the boiler door off and not the frame with that? frame usually sticks out a little more than the door i've noticed."
Because the cupboard is on the wall down from the main one, so I have a wasted 14 inch space in order to allow the door to be opened and allow access, so it can easily be removed and hidden by a curtain of some sort so access can still be acquired |
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Heat gun for starter's I got myself one when I moved in this place,it seemed to be the fashion to just paint over all screws year after year annoyingly. Try and do the job yourself it probably isn't as hard as you think. |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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"also, how come you only have to take the boiler door off and not the frame with that? frame usually sticks out a little more than the door i've noticed.
Because the cupboard is on the wall down from the main one, so I have a wasted 14 inch space in order to allow the door to be opened and allow access, so it can easily be removed and hidden by a curtain of some sort so access can still be acquired "
oh right, yes i didn't think of the door being open as taking up space. |
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over a year ago
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"Heat gun for starter's I got myself one when I moved in this place,it seemed to be the fashion to just paint over all screws year after year annoyingly. Try and do the job yourself it probably isn't as hard as you think."
i hired a heat gun a couple of years ago, and it was really good..i've also used some DIY online sites for help..plumbed in a washing machine at xmas! i think you will have an advantage over men using them as you will probably actually follow the advice! good luck! |
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"Typical, two men to start make useless bloody comments
Are the screws holding the shelves/door up slotted or crossheads ?
Find the correct screwdriver to remove them
I have no idea, hence the 30 years worth of paint comment, for all I know they could have been glued on, so no screws at all? If I knew the answers I wouldn't have posted the question. "
OK, You either use a Heat gun that has just been mentioned or a sharp instrument to remove the paint,
A knife ? or dare I say it a
screwdriver 
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By *oxy_minx OP Woman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.  "
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished "
They want to ruin you.
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
Shrewsbury |
"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished "
Remember to open a window if using a heat gun, paint fumes are not fun. |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in. "
The most obvious answer is usually right, I thought she only wanted to remove the shelves and door not remove all the paint
Scrape the paint off the head of the screws with the screwdriver the use the same screwdriver to remove the screws |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
The most obvious answer is usually right, I thought she only wanted to remove the shelves and door not remove all the paint
Scrape the paint off the head of the screws with the screwdriver the use the same screwdriver to remove the screws "
That's what she said wasn't it? Removing doors. How the bloody hell were we supposed to guess they had 30 years of paint on them? We were only told that fact - that crucial fact - later!!!! |
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"Right, I hate being a single female who is pretty useless at DIY (choking whilst I am admitting that)
But, I am looking at buying new furniture for my bedroom, however, I have an inset set of shelves that have been faced as if they were a door, so these would need to be removed to allow said item of furniture to be flush against the wall, and which hopefully I may just get away with just doing that.
I also have a cupboard that holds my boiler which I would need to remove the door, to give me space to move things down a bit and replace with some sort of curtain (pretty of course)
What would be the easiest course of action for both jobs? And what tools would I need, or do I just admit defeat at the first hurdle and pay someone without trying first?
With the shelf framing please note that there is also at least 30 years worth of paint to also take into consideration "
A hammer is nearly always the answer |
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over a year ago
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished "
You just go out and buy a heat gun...just don't expect that to be your solution |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If there's 30years worth of paint then hey probably arent glued, find the screw holes and scrape them out with a flathead then see where you are. If anything is glued then you're not getting it out without a bit of mess (that goes for moving shelves too) so hope lol.
It's not the end of the world either way though, you could always fill in any holes made easy enough
The secret to this DIY shit is just have a go and have google to hand  |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
The most obvious answer is usually right, I thought she only wanted to remove the shelves and door not remove all the paint
Scrape the paint off the head of the screws with the screwdriver the use the same screwdriver to remove the screws
That's what she said wasn't it? Removing doors. How the bloody hell were we supposed to guess they had 30 years of paint on them? We were only told that fact - that crucial fact - later!!!! "
Well, at the end. I didn't read it all.  |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished "
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm with you, op. I deal with problems by throwing money at it until it goes away. One of the reasons I have to budget like a bitch the rest of the time. |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
The most obvious answer is usually right, I thought she only wanted to remove the shelves and door not remove all the paint
Scrape the paint off the head of the screws with the screwdriver the use the same screwdriver to remove the screws "
Nar I've tried that you'll be there forever,it's much quicker with heat |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
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Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians' "
The old ones are the best |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
You just go out and buy a heat gun...just don't expect that to be your solution "
If she leaves the heat gun on the screws long enough it might melt the screws |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians'
The old ones are the best "
Old, and true. Bury St Edmunds, near the railway station, about 1983/84 |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I would buy some sand paper too. Sometimes, when you unscrew stuff that has a lot of layers of paint, you get lumps of paint left around the holes. I like to sand them off.
Invest in a decent screwdriver set, that has different heads on them.
My most used screwdriver is a crosshead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians'
The old ones are the best
Old, and true. Bury St Edmunds, near the railway station, about 1983/84"
Not saying it's not true but I have heard it said before  |
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By *oxy_minx OP Woman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
See all this thread has proved, is men don't read, didn't note the 30+ years of coats of paint, only women have made logical answers or even just pay someone to do it for me, I might just go down that route and remain risk free of being ruined |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"See all this thread has proved, is men don't read, didn't note the 30+ years of coats of paint, only women have made logical answers or even just pay someone to do it for me, I might just go down that route and remain risk free of being ruined "
Probably best  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"See all this thread has proved, is men don't read, didn't note the 30+ years of coats of paint, only women have made logical answers or even just pay someone to do it for me, I might just go down that route and remain risk free of being ruined "
A professional should test the paint, if it needs to be removed, and have the necessary tools and safety equipment. |
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By *oxy_minx OP Woman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"You won't need a heat gun to remove "30+ years of coats of paint" from a handful of screws
And I did read the op
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To be fair my building must be at least 130 years old, so I have no idea when they were added or how many coats of paint they have I just know it is a shit load |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"D.I.Y.
Don't involve yourself "
very funny..i chuckled.
foxy, ascertain how the shelving is fixed..is it glue?, is it screws?...look all round the edges to find out..
glue, youll just need leverage. screws, youll need a flat head (for straight across the top indent) or a Philips (cross on the top indent) youll need one to take hinges off, so you can remove the door anyway...
some shelving is held to the wall by small metal brackets at top and/or sides (dresser types and hanging shelving.)
wish i was nearer..im pretty practical cant you up load a pic of the shelving, with you in the picture..id have a better clue....
worst comes to worst you use leverage and get a tub of polyfiller |
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"D.I.Y.
Don't involve yourself
very funny..i chuckled.
foxy, ascertain how the shelving is fixed..is it glue?, is it screws?...look all round the edges to find out..
glue, youll just need leverage. screws, youll need a flat head (for straight across the top indent) or a Philips (cross on the top indent) youll need one to take hinges off, so you can remove the door anyway...
some shelving is held to the wall by small metal brackets at top and/or sides (dresser types and hanging shelving.)
wish i was nearer..im pretty practical cant you up load a pic of the shelving, with you in the picture..id have a better clue....
worst comes to worst you use leverage and get a tub of polyfiller "
Or get a Man in to do a proper job
That's a joke by the way for all those who have lost their sense of humour
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians' "
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Typical, two men to start make useless bloody comments
Are the screws holding the shelves/door up slotted or crossheads ?
Find the correct screwdriver to remove them
I have no idea, hence the 30 years worth of paint comment, for all I know they could have been glued on, so no screws at all? If I knew the answers I wouldn't have posted the question. "
you'll need a hammer a slotted screwdriver to knock paint out of slot on screws then undo screws remove doors but surely the frame of unit gets in the way of what youre trying to do to ?  |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"D.I.Y.
Don't involve yourself
very funny..i chuckled.
foxy, ascertain how the shelving is fixed..is it glue?, is it screws?...look all round the edges to find out..
glue, youll just need leverage. screws, youll need a flat head (for straight across the top indent) or a Philips (cross on the top indent) youll need one to take hinges off, so you can remove the door anyway...
some shelving is held to the wall by small metal brackets at top and/or sides (dresser types and hanging shelving.)
wish i was nearer..im pretty practical cant you up load a pic of the shelving, with you in the picture..id have a better clue....
worst comes to worst you use leverage and get a tub of polyfiller
Or get a Man in to do a proper job
That's a joke by the way for all those who have lost their sense of humour
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make a mess you mean, expect cups of tea and 'friendly banter' while you pay him?..joke for those who have lost their sense of humour |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians'
The old ones are the best
Old, and true. Bury St Edmunds, near the railway station, about 1983/84
Not saying it's not true but I have heard it said before "
Well, you sort of were. |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians'
The old ones are the best
Old, and true. Bury St Edmunds, near the railway station, about 1983/84
Not saying it's not true but I have heard it said before
Well, you sort of were. "
I've heard it said before and you have confirmed where it came from. |
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"D.I.Y.
Don't involve yourself
very funny..i chuckled.
foxy, ascertain how the shelving is fixed..is it glue?, is it screws?...look all round the edges to find out..
glue, youll just need leverage. screws, youll need a flat head (for straight across the top indent) or a Philips (cross on the top indent) youll need one to take hinges off, so you can remove the door anyway...
some shelving is held to the wall by small metal brackets at top and/or sides (dresser types and hanging shelving.)
wish i was nearer..im pretty practical cant you up load a pic of the shelving, with you in the picture..id have a better clue....
worst comes to worst you use leverage and get a tub of polyfiller
Or get a Man in to do a proper job
That's a joke by the way for all those who have lost their sense of humour
make a mess you mean, expect cups of tea and 'friendly banter' while you pay him?..joke for those who have lost their sense of humour "
Makes a mess ? The Woman can clean it up
Making tea ? Well they are usually in the kitchen aren't they ?
Friendly talking ? Most Women can talk for England or in this case Scotland
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I have a tension rod for my curtain covering a doorway. eBay is good for that & pretty nets actually.
Definitely invest in a decent tool kit, don't go for the cutesy girlie ones as they won't last 5 minutes, I have a full halfords one & it's great.
YouTube & Google are your friends with DIY! |
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"Scrum is much worse than me because he agreed! Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows?
Heat Gun - nah, like above - a bloody big hammer and smash it in.
Well I'm not inviting you two bloody cowboys to mine.....I'll be left demolished
Cowboys
I find that sort of comment offensive,
Now where did I leave my horse
Talking of cowboys. Many years ago I saw a builder's van with 'Gupta and Singh' on it, with the tag line 'You've tried the cowboys, now try the Indians'
The old ones are the best
Old, and true. Bury St Edmunds, near the railway station, about 1983/84
Not saying it's not true but I have heard it said before
Well, you sort of were.
I've heard it said before and you have confirmed where it came from."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Right, I hate being a single female who is pretty useless at DIY (choking whilst I am admitting that)
But, I am looking at buying new furniture for my bedroom, however, I have an inset set of shelves that have been faced as if they were a door, so these would need to be removed to allow said item of furniture to be flush against the wall, and which hopefully I may just get away with just doing that.
I also have a cupboard that holds my boiler which I would need to remove the door, to give me space to move things down a bit and replace with some sort of curtain (pretty of course)
What would be the easiest course of action for both jobs? And what tools would I need, or do I just admit defeat at the first hurdle and pay someone without trying first?
With the shelf framing please note that there is also at least 30 years worth of paint to also take into consideration "
the shelves will be fixed to the wall probably through the batten that the shelf sits on if its a slotted screw use hammer and flat head screw driver to knock paint out of slot bash screws gently in with screwdriver inserted in slot this will loosen grip and make them easier to undo ( anti clockwise ) to remove screws  |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
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"D.I.Y.
Don't involve yourself
very funny..i chuckled.
foxy, ascertain how the shelving is fixed..is it glue?, is it screws?...look all round the edges to find out..
glue, youll just need leverage. screws, youll need a flat head (for straight across the top indent) or a Philips (cross on the top indent) youll need one to take hinges off, so you can remove the door anyway...
some shelving is held to the wall by small metal brackets at top and/or sides (dresser types and hanging shelving.)
wish i was nearer..im pretty practical cant you up load a pic of the shelving, with you in the picture..id have a better clue....
worst comes to worst you use leverage and get a tub of polyfiller
Or get a Man in to do a proper job
That's a joke by the way for all those who have lost their sense of humour
make a mess you mean, expect cups of tea and 'friendly banter' while you pay him?..joke for those who have lost their sense of humour
Makes a mess ? The Woman can clean it up
Making tea ? Well they are usually in the kitchen aren't they ?
Friendly talking ? Most Women can talk for England or in this case Scotland
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yep i clean make tea and talk, im happy though i dont have a partner to bother me while im doing those things |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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After doing 3 Refurbs - Best way on your 2 Jobs.
1. Dust sheets (lots of crap ganna come out (easy clean up))
2. Hand held Drill (light work) wickes 20 quid will take out the shelves. then fill holes with filler . sand off lightly.
3. Hook hammer and chisel to ease away the door (easy enough) then again use filler to plug the holes.
4. rail from wickes comes with fittings two tapper screws each end. Usually telescopic rails or can cut with small jigsaw to size.
Sand down lighty after not with heater and just prime/stain .. job done in 1 day max + mess removed by rolling up dust sheet and dumping it.
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By *oxy_minx OP Woman
over a year ago
Scotland - Aberdeen |
"Fucks sake! All you men want to do is create fucking mess! Think I'll just fathom it out myself
Some jobs can be messy....but we clean it up."
No they don't! Maybe I just need a crow bar |
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By *uzy444Woman
over a year ago
in the suffolk countryside |
"Fucks sake! All you men want to do is create fucking mess! Think I'll just fathom it out myself
Some jobs can be messy....but we clean it up.
No they don't! Maybe I just need a crow bar "
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"Fucks sake! All you men want to do is create fucking mess! Think I'll just fathom it out myself
Some jobs can be messy....but we clean it up.
No they don't! Maybe I just need a crow bar "
Nope just dustsheets |
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"Fucks sake! All you men want to do is create fucking mess! Think I'll just fathom it out myself
Some jobs can be messy....but we clean it up.
No they don't! Maybe I just need a crow bar "
Wrong
Bigger hammer is what you're looking for |
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You may find that the "frame for the door on the sheving has been nailed directly onto the shelves then the edges sealed and painted , as suggested by others a hammer may be an item to consider , hammering on frame from inside to out if the frame starts to move your on the right track, i would remove door of frame first |
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The shelves themselves are probably sitting on wooden brackets , screws or nails will be holding the shelves on if they are not loose on bracket, these maybe screwed or nailed from bottom or top of shelf but again may have been painted over , then the wooden side brackets themselves will be screwd into walls as well |
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"You may find that the "frame for the door on the sheving has been nailed directly onto the shelves then the edges sealed and painted , as suggested by others a hammer may be an item to consider , hammering on frame from inside to out if the frame starts to move your on the right track, i would remove door of frame first "
At last some sense.....just hope it's come from the male half |
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