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"On BBC1 now.
Landlords move in to their rented properties to see what it's like for their tenants. Looking at the trailers this should be interesting.
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Ya watching it now.. Ru a landlord or a tenant ? |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"On BBC1 now.
Landlords move in to their rented properties to see what it's like for their tenants. Looking at the trailers this should be interesting.
Ya watching it now.. Ru a landlord or a tenant ?"
Me? Neither.
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Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme? |
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme? "
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation |
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme? "
Landlords don't rent their properties out for the goodness of their hearts. They want to earn as much as possible from the tenants, and they often sell up with little warning. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme? "
Not yet. It is showing the divide of those who have taken this route to make their money.
Moneybox Live on R4 today was covering the cost of Buy to Rent, which was a very different take on the private landlord side of the story.
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
Landlords don't rent their properties out for the goodness of their hearts. They want to earn as much as possible from the tenants, and they often sell up with little warning. "
What else should they do? |
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
Not yet. It is showing the divide of those who have taken this route to make their money.
Moneybox Live on R4 today was covering the cost of Buy to Rent, which was a very different take on the private landlord side of the story.
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It's an interesting concept. I wonder how many believe they will instantly get rich? There must be pitfalls for them? I shall watch on catchup. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation "
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
Landlords don't rent their properties out for the goodness of their hearts. They want to earn as much as possible from the tenants, and they often sell up with little warning.
What else should they do?"
Not be greedy, be fair and keep the property safe and in good repair. Unless they themselves are n financial difficulty they should give plenty of time for people to find new accommodation and arrange to move their stuff. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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It's interesting that the landlords are saying they would act on any request/complaints but that they haven't had any. The tenants say they don't want to complain in case they lose their homes.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
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Some Boroughs have an upper limit much less than others.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I'm watching it. Its pretty interesting so far..."
I'm waiting for us (the UK) to get to the level of people deserving to be where they are at.
We're already at the asset has been damaged by the tenants and how much they can get if they improve the property. It's exactly playing into that tenant's fears.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was a landlord for a couple of years. Moved house just before the recession in 2008 and couldn't sell the house for what we thought it was worth.
So ended up having to rent it out to help cover the mortgage on the new place.
Some of the tenants were lovely and no trouble. The first lot were always ringing after they had broken something and we would go around and fix it. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
Some Boroughs have an upper limit much less than others.
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I know. K&C is one of those known to outbid others to place people in the outer London boroughs.
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By *orum TrollWoman
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation "
doubt it's a rise in them, just more are aware of their rights to a decent home. i've been a renter all my life and there has always been slumlords out there. |
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"I'm watching it. Its pretty interesting so far...
I'm waiting for us (the UK) to get to the level of people deserving to be where they are at.
We're already at the asset has been damaged by the tenants and how much they can get if they improve the property. It's exactly playing into that tenant's fears.
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It certainly is |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
Some Boroughs have an upper limit much less than others.
I know. K&C is one of those known to outbid others to place people in the outer London boroughs.
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Meaning people in those boroughs won't get that place because their own council won't pay it. I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
Some Boroughs have an upper limit much less than others.
I know. K&C is one of those known to outbid others to place people in the outer London boroughs.
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Possibly to get rid of them. I read somewhere (probably the local paper) that K&C receives more funding than Barking and Dagenham, that has more need. |
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"I'm watching it. Its pretty interesting so far...
I'm waiting for us (the UK) to get to the level of people deserving to be where they are at.
We're already at the asset has been damaged by the tenants and how much they can get if they improve the property. It's exactly playing into that tenant's fears.
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Yep! If he fixes the flat and brings it to a livable standard then what? The he can raise the rent!  I mean, that assumes that the flat is worth the price it is currently costing!
I think the show is honestly trying to show both sides, though. The meaning doesn't seem to be sinking into the landlords heads, but at the same time the tenants do need to report problems they are having to the landlords. I think its interesting seeing the different perspectives and how each side is thinking about things. |
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"The son seems to have a better conscience about the ethical dilemma than his father.
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I wasn't expecting tears if I'm honest. The other landlord in Milton Keynes is doing my head in in comparison  |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
Some Boroughs have an upper limit much less than others.
I know. K&C is one of those known to outbid others to place people in the outer London boroughs.
Meaning people in those boroughs won't get that place because their own council won't pay it. I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property. "
The bulk of benefit payments cover rent, and a significant portion of that goes to private landlords.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"I'm watching it. Its pretty interesting so far...
I'm waiting for us (the UK) to get to the level of people deserving to be where they are at.
We're already at the asset has been damaged by the tenants and how much they can get if they improve the property. It's exactly playing into that tenant's fears.
Yep! If he fixes the flat and brings it to a livable standard then what? The he can raise the rent! I mean, that assumes that the flat is worth the price it is currently costing!
I think the show is honestly trying to show both sides, though. The meaning doesn't seem to be sinking into the landlords heads, but at the same time the tenants do need to report problems they are having to the landlords. I think its interesting seeing the different perspectives and how each side is thinking about things."
It doesn't feel like a sensationalist take on the story at all. I appreciate the balance.
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By *orum TrollWoman
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
Some Boroughs have an upper limit much less than others.
I know. K&C is one of those known to outbid others to place people in the outer London boroughs.
Meaning people in those boroughs won't get that place because their own council won't pay it. I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property. "
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"The son seems to have a better conscience about the ethical dilemma than his father.
I wasn't expecting tears if I'm honest. The other landlord in Milton Keynes is doing my head in in comparison "
The HMO model is designed only to make as much money as possible.
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
Landlords don't rent their properties out for the goodness of their hearts. They want to earn as much as possible from the tenants, and they often sell up with little warning.
What else should they do?
Not be greedy, be fair and keep the property safe and in good repair. Unless they themselves are n financial difficulty they should give plenty of time for people to find new accommodation and arrange to move their stuff. "
Yes fair point. But sadly it's seen as nothing but a means to make money, and as such people are treated as a commodity.
Not all are bad though. My parents invested years ago as a pension plan. I found out one tenant hadn't paid for months but my mother said it wasn't Christian to push them in hard times.
Sadly the tenant was simply taking her for a mug at the age of 80 and giving her the run around.
Two sides to every story. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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I used to be a landlady, hopefully one of the less 'slum' types. It was a bloody nightmare, and once additional regulations were brought in I sold the flat and breathed a sigh of relief. Not cut out for that level of responsibility. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"...I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation."
I was rather shocked when I saw some of the names on that list. |
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
The trouble is that there is an extreme rise of rouge landlords...there are some bloody decent ones but there are many who prey on the most vulnerable of society and also the local authorities who have to provide temporary accommodation
London local authorities have ended up bidding against each other to get private rented accommodation to house people. The landlords hold out until the last minute and then just when a placement has been agreed 'sell' it to another local authority who will pay them more.
It's a broken system.
Some Boroughs have an upper limit much less than others.
I know. K&C is one of those known to outbid others to place people in the outer London boroughs.
Meaning people in those boroughs won't get that place because their own council won't pay it. I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
The bulk of benefit payments cover rent, and a significant portion of that goes to private landlords.
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My Borough is one of the three cheapest places to rent. That is at an average of £1,500.00 pcm. It has the highest rate of unemployment at 9.something %. With over half the council properties being sold under the right to buy. I've noticed that most private properties that are sold now, and in the last 7/8 years have all been rented out. They are left to decay. |
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"...I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation.
I was rather shocked when I saw some of the names on that list."
I recall reading that one MP's son owned a whole street. |
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"...I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation.
I was rather shocked when I saw some of the names on that list."
i'll be honest, i don't even know who most of them are. but nothing surprises me any more. loads of MPs who voted for disability benefit cuts are/were working for charities for the disabled.
just really does seem most MPs are in it for themselves. |
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
Landlords don't rent their properties out for the goodness of their hearts. They want to earn as much as possible from the tenants, and they often sell up with little warning.
What else should they do?
Not be greedy, be fair and keep the property safe and in good repair. Unless they themselves are n financial difficulty they should give plenty of time for people to find new accommodation and arrange to move their stuff.
Yes fair point. But sadly it's seen as nothing but a means to make money, and as such people are treated as a commodity.
Not all are bad though. My parents invested years ago as a pension plan. I found out one tenant hadn't paid for months but my mother said it wasn't Christian to push them in hard times.
Sadly the tenant was simply taking her for a mug at the age of 80 and giving her the run around.
Two sides to every story."
Tenants can be a nightmare too, I know. The property isn't theirs so don't give a monkeys. Some rented properties near me have up to 3 cars parked on the drive, filled with household waste and rubbish. |
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"...I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation.
I was rather shocked when I saw some of the names on that list.
i'll be honest, i don't even know who most of them are. but nothing surprises me any more. loads of MPs who voted for disability benefit cuts are/were working for charities for the disabled.
just really does seem most MPs are in it for themselves."
Getting paid for working for them ? |
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"...I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation.
I was rather shocked when I saw some of the names on that list.
i'll be honest, i don't even know who most of them are. but nothing surprises me any more. loads of MPs who voted for disability benefit cuts are/were working for charities for the disabled.
just really does seem most MPs are in it for themselves.
Getting paid for working for them ? "
more i meant they are there to shape laws so they benefit from them. |
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"...I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation.
I was rather shocked when I saw some of the names on that list.
i'll be honest, i don't even know who most of them are. but nothing surprises me any more. loads of MPs who voted for disability benefit cuts are/were working for charities for the disabled.
just really does seem most MPs are in it for themselves.
Getting paid for working for them ?
more i meant they are there to shape laws so they benefit from them."
Ok, got it now.
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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It's good to see that they have made or are planning to make improvements. I hope it's not just the power of being on TV and that they will be consistent with their other properties too.
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"...I'd like to know how much housing benefit landlords collect from the Government. Most average earners can't afford to private rent and have a slim chance of getting a council property.
in 2014 40% of housing benefit went to them. it was 9 billion pounds.
interesting also is a lot of MPs are landlords themselves, 72 of them in the tory government alone voted against making homes fit for human habitation.
I was rather shocked when I saw some of the names on that list.
i'll be honest, i don't even know who most of them are. but nothing surprises me any more. loads of MPs who voted for disability benefit cuts are/were working for charities for the disabled.
just really does seem most MPs are in it for themselves.
Getting paid for working for them ?
more i meant they are there to shape laws so they benefit from them.
Ok, got it now.
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yeah sorry, i tend not to elaborate properly half the time. just how my brain works, i think people are psychic and know exactly what i mean.  |
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"Not watching, but is it sensationalist TV? Like life on benefits portrays everyone as scroungers, does this portray all landlords as evil money grabbers oppressive to the extreme?
Landlords don't rent their properties out for the goodness of their hearts. They want to earn as much as possible from the tenants, and they often sell up with little warning.
What else should they do?
Not be greedy, be fair and keep the property safe and in good repair. Unless they themselves are n financial difficulty they should give plenty of time for people to find new accommodation and arrange to move their stuff.
Yes fair point. But sadly it's seen as nothing but a means to make money, and as such people are treated as a commodity.
Not all are bad though. My parents invested years ago as a pension plan. I found out one tenant hadn't paid for months but my mother said it wasn't Christian to push them in hard times.
Sadly the tenant was simply taking her for a mug at the age of 80 and giving her the run around.
Two sides to every story.
Tenants can be a nightmare too, I know. The property isn't theirs so don't give a monkeys. Some rented properties near me have up to 3 cars parked on the drive, filled with household waste and rubbish. "
There are far more good tenants than bad but yes some tenants can be nightmares |
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"I wonder if my landlord will pay my energy bill 
People don't like coming to mine because I don't put the heating on but I have very low energy bills. "
My parents used to tell us to put a jumper on so I do that here |
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"Ok now that's done and dusted... Who is up for a meet this weekend...lol
Forum group telly watching is like a social in and of itself.
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My landlord decided to pay me for the weekend social meet, |
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"Ok now that's done and dusted... Who is up for a meet this weekend...lol
Forum group telly watching is like a social in and of itself.
My landlord decided to pay me for the weekend social meet,"
Probably more than likely that you are the landlord |
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"I wonder if my landlord will pay my energy bill
People don't like coming to mine because I don't put the heating on but I have very low energy bills. "
In our house in NY Marc and I kept the house just warm enough for the pipes not to freeze and then slept in sleeping bags and blankets. Our parents visited one winter and never again |
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By (user no longer on site)
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its a very interesting premise..
last weeks episode was really interesting, especially as I am a private tenant.. although my landlord only lives up the road and if I have a problem I just send him a text.. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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Interesting that the young landlord didn't realise that people would want the place they live to be home.
I love that they left him £400. That is very touching and they really come across as wanting to learn from the process.
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"Interesting that the young landlord didn't realise that people would want the place they live to be home.
I love that they left him £400. That is very touching and they really come across as wanting to learn from the process.
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I think they learned so much from their experience. |
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By *icketysplits OP Woman
over a year ago
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"Interesting that the young landlord didn't realise that people would want the place they live to be home.
I love that they left him £400. That is very touching and they really come across as wanting to learn from the process.
I think they learned so much from their experience."
I'm so glad this series is showing some balance and not selling a poverty porn line.
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