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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
I would think it depends on your reason, if you are like that in real life, etc. The definition of prejudice is judging all, assuming all of one group are the same .... but I don't think this is the same as sexual preference |
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If you have to ask then probably.
There are groups that I am not that attracted to...east asians for one, not really into TS/TV's either. But, I cant for the life of me understand why people need to make a big song and dance about the fact. Yeah, I get the annoyance of being accused of being racist for having a preference but, most of the time, there seems to be a thin line between preference and prejudice and it will never take long for someone who airs their "preferences" in public to start ranting about some racist bullshit.
I hate the innocence play in these discussions. I think people genuinely know when they're being ignorant and when they're not being. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"If you have to ask then probably.
There are groups that I am not that attracted to...east asians for one, not really into TS/TV's either. But, I cant for the life of me understand why people need to make a big song and dance about the fact. Yeah, I get the annoyance of being accused of being racist for having a preference but, most of the time, there seems to be a thin line between preference and prejudice and it will never take long for someone who airs their "preferences" in public to start ranting about some racist bullshit.
I hate the innocence play in these discussions. I think people genuinely know when they're being ignorant and when they're not being. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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Difficult one. Personally I'd lean towards a preference built off a preference saying prejudice but it comes down to the definition in the context this thread was meant:
1 - Pre-conceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
1.1 Dislike, hostility, or unjust behaviour deriving from preconceived and unfounded opinions.
The notion of what is based on reason (and whether that reason is acceptable and what is an unfounded opinion, is completely subjective. Hence my believe that it is both a preference and an example of prejudice. |
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I can't help but wonder if it's a) a trick question or b) you're being disingenuous. I'm not a regular forum user so have no idea who folk are but I am trying to think what's behind the question...
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
Yes it is.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I can't help but wonder if it's a) a trick question or b) you're being disingenuous. I'm not a regular forum user so have no idea who folk are but I am trying to think what's behind the question...
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There was a thread on a different topic that's turned into the topic of discussion was: preference or prejudice.
Enough people were discussing it, so I guess OP thought it'd be better as a separate thread |
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"I can't help but wonder if it's a) a trick question or b) you're being disingenuous. I'm not a regular forum user so have no idea who folk are but I am trying to think what's behind the question...
There was a thread on a different topic that's turned into the topic of discussion was: preference or prejudice.
Enough people were discussing it, so I guess OP thought it'd be better as a separate thread"
Thanks for the heads up. As I said: not a forum regular and dip in and out... as you were folks... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think the second part of my thought process is that when people say I won't date or meet anyone of X,Y, Z race/religion/ethnic group then.
To me a preference is when there are multiple options that would be considered bur you lean towards one i.e I prefer red heads but wouldn't turn down a more suitable blonde or brunette.
Ultimately though any preference or prejudice is down to the individual. We are answerable only to ourselves and our own ethical and moral codes. |
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By *arry247Couple
over a year ago
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
If you will not meet people because they belong to a specific grouping it is prejudice.
If you are prepared to meet some people of that same grouping but not others it is preference.
For example if you have more inclined to meet white people but do not rule meeting a black person if he or she appeals to you that is a preference, if you rule out all black people that is prejudice.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
I'm the same. And in my case it's sexual preference. There are people I will never engage with sexually - because I'm not in any way attracted to them - but I have absolutely no prejudice towards them in other aspects of life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
Me too
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Prejudice is the act of having pre-conceived ideas of people that are not based on reason or actual experience. Discrimination is the acting out of it.
We all have prejudices. We all will discriminate.
A preference is a greater liking for something over another.
You can have a preference without prejudice, but not prejudice without a preference.
Whether you are racist or not -- say if the example is preferring white guys over black guys as a sexual partner -- depends on your reason for your preference. If you think white guys are superior in personality or ability etc, that would be racist. If it's only about physical appearance that isn't necessarily racist. If you don't regard a black guy as different to a white guy in a situation other than sexual attraction then you probably aren't racist. Racism depends on what you believe.
I do wonder about the internalised biases we have though through the bombardment of societal and media constructs pushing whiteness in the majority, if we are using this example of being more attracted to say a white guy than a black guy. I'm not entirely sure there isn't a factor there that makes us convinced our preference is purely a biological urge and not a construct of the world we are in.
By the way, the above is a preference example -- not my actual preference. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"If you have to ask then probably.
There are groups that I am not that attracted to...east asians for one, not really into TS/TV's either. But, I cant for the life of me understand why people need to make a big song and dance about the fact. Yeah, I get the annoyance of being accused of being racist for having a preference but, most of the time, there seems to be a thin line between preference and prejudice and it will never take long for someone who airs their "preferences" in public to start ranting about some racist bullshit.
I hate the innocence play in these discussions. I think people genuinely know when they're being ignorant and when they're not being. "
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Prejudice is when you make an assumption of characteristics based on something else, pre-judging.
So one person might not meet asians through prejudice (they think they are all arrogant) , another might not meet them through preference (they only are attracted to blondes). |
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Could be either , or both. But always one or the other .
I won't fuck another guy , but I'll happily chat with him . That's a preference , I prefer not to fuck him , but I'm not prejudiced as I'll happily spend time chatting with him .
As any race , creed or colour are people we will happily meet , we aren't prejudiced against any of them . Would we fuck all who want to ? No , as we have to feel an attraction too , and that comes from personality , cleanliness and the general way we all feel towards each other . Prejudice doesn't come into it . Preference does , as we prefer to fuck those we are attracted to and those who are attracted to us . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
Yes. No. Maybe.
For me, I'll talk to anyone, having sex with anyone is completely different concept. I need to fancy them. But not not talking to someone is just closing doors in the face of fantastic moments that could be.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference"
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"If you have to ask then probably.
There are groups that I am not that attracted to...east asians for one, not really into TS/TV's either. But, I cant for the life of me understand why people need to make a big song and dance about the fact. Yeah, I get the annoyance of being accused of being racist for having a preference but, most of the time, there seems to be a thin line between preference and prejudice and it will never take long for someone who airs their "preferences" in public to start ranting about some racist bullshit.
I hate the innocence play in these discussions. I think people genuinely know when they're being ignorant and when they're not being. "
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"I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference"
Is being gay a preference then? |
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"I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference
Is being gay a preference then? "
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"I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference
Is being gay a preference then? "
No , but refusing to meet them is a prejudice as they are equally as good company as bi and straight people . Infact I would go as far as to say that the gay community is actually way more open , liberal and fun than the swinging community from our experience |
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"I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference
Is being gay a preference then?
No , but refusing to meet them is a prejudice as they are equally as good company as bi and straight people . Infact I would go as far as to say that the gay community is actually way more open , liberal and fun than the swinging community from our experience "
Just for the record, I never said I wouldn't meet them, just wouldn't sleep with them |
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"I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference
Is being gay a preference then?
No , but refusing to meet them is a prejudice as they are equally as good company as bi and straight people . Infact I would go as far as to say that the gay community is actually way more open , liberal and fun than the swinging community from our experience
Just for the record, I never said I wouldn't meet them, just wouldn't sleep with them"
True , and we weren't having a dig at you , or anyone else |
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"I was going to write a bit of an essay about how I don't understand how you can just flat out refuse to meet people in certain "groups" without getting to know the individual. But then I realised I won't sleep with half of the population because it's a preference
Is being gay a preference then?
No , but refusing to meet them is a prejudice as they are equally as good company as bi and straight people . Infact I would go as far as to say that the gay community is actually way more open , liberal and fun than the swinging community from our experience
Just for the record, I never said I wouldn't meet them, just wouldn't sleep with them
True , and we weren't having a dig at you , or anyone else "
It's all good |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
Only you know the answer to that, but there is a big difference between who you will meet from here and how you treat people in real life. |
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
Just re-read this. You won't even speak to them? Yes that's prejudice |
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?
Just re-read this. You won't even speak to them? Yes that's prejudice "
Depends, the group might be neo-nazis, in which case it it isn't...
If the group is the French, then it would be prejudice. |
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?
Just re-read this. You won't even speak to them? Yes that's prejudice
Depends, the group might be neo-nazis, in which case it it isn't...
If the group is the French, then it would be prejudice."
I'm happy to say I am prejudiced against any race hate group . Or any homophobic group too . |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?
Just re-read this. You won't even speak to them? Yes that's prejudice
Depends, the group might be neo-nazis, in which case it it isn't...
If the group is the French, then it would be prejudice."
Yea good point |
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"I chat to anyone and everyone but definitely have preference as to who I shag"
I think the confusion between the two in fabs is because people assume that someone definitely want to have sex with everybody they interact with in here. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Dictionary definition of 'preference' - liking of one alternative more than another.
Preference does not mean (except in the Fab dictionary) that options are totally excluded. For example I prefer blue eyes to brown eyes on a man, but brown eyes is certainly not out of the question.
Dictionary definition of 'prejudice' - preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actually experience.
So if someone totally excludes certain groups of people as an option, it could be for a very good reason, or it could predudice. It's not a preference though (except in the Fab dictionary).
I am personally very cautious about stating I would never meet someone who falls into a certain group or type. I have a typical type that I go for, but you never know.
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By (user no longer on site)
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In my opinion, sexual/physical preference is the last aspect of life where you truly have the right to decide. The ability to choose who you do and don't want to share intimate parts of yourself with should always exist. |
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By *ieman300Man
over a year ago
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Everbody has preferences and of course thats absolutely fine. I also think everyone is prejudice to an extent. Its human nature to have pre conceptions about certain groups of people. Refusing to even chat to them probably comes under the prejudice banner. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"I chat to anyone and everyone but definitely have preference as to who I shag
I think the confusion between the two in fabs is because people assume that someone definitely want to have sex with everybody they interact with in here. "
Exactly this!! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?
Just re-read this. You won't even speak to them? Yes that's prejudice "
But people say on here all the time that no reply is ok. "It's not rude because the FAQ's say so".
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?
Just re-read this. You won't even speak to them? Yes that's prejudice
But people say on here all the time that no reply is ok. "It's not rude because the FAQ's say so".
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Just because one person (the site) tells you it's okay. It doesn't make it right. Even 100 people telling you something, it doesn't make it right. |
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?
Just re-read this. You won't even speak to them? Yes that's prejudice
But people say on here all the time that no reply is ok. "It's not rude because the FAQ's say so".
Just because one person (the site) tells you it's okay. It doesn't make it right. Even 100 people telling you something, it doesn't make it right. "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"If you won't fuck men, that makes you a lesbian, not prejudiced.
If you won't fuck whites your prejudiced.
If you won't fuck blacks your racist."
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What if you won't fuck French people, is that a prejudice?.
But if there French and black.. Your a prejudiced racist.
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By (user no longer on site)
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You have the right to like or dislike people for what ever reason you see fit.
After all there are literally 1,000's of women on this site and indeed real life who will not have sex with me 
If someone giv s you abuse for being of another race then that's racist but if they don't want anything to do with you that's preference |
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Sorry piece of cake. What I was getting at is that being straight, bi, or gay isn't a preference. So when people equate their choice of whatever as the same as someone's "choice" of gender they're wrong.
As for the difference between the two. For me a preference is "I usually don't like people with big eyebrows" whereas prejudice is "all people with big eyebrows are awful". The former is just a statement of personal taste. The latter makes a blanket claim about an entire group of people based upon a particular generalisation, refusing to treat them as individuals, and claiming they are all equally bad/criminal/perverts/liars/etc. |
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I think people will reverse engineer the socially desirable answer to the question.
By definition, you don't know what your subconscious is thinking so if you say you're not attracted to anyone of a particular race that just happens to have negative stereotypes then personally i find it a dubious 'preference'. |
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"If you have to ask then probably.
There are groups that I am not that attracted to...east asians for one, not really into TS/TV's either. But, I cant for the life of me understand why people need to make a big song and dance about the fact. Yeah, I get the annoyance of being accused of being racist for having a preference but, most of the time, there seems to be a thin line between preference and prejudice and it will never take long for someone who airs their "preferences" in public to start ranting about some racist bullshit.
I hate the innocence play in these discussions. I think people genuinely know when they're being ignorant and when they're not being. "
Indeed. |
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"If you have to ask then probably.
There are groups that I am not that attracted to...east asians for one, not really into TS/TV's either. But, I cant for the life of me understand why people need to make a big song and dance about the fact. Yeah, I get the annoyance of being accused of being racist for having a preference but, most of the time, there seems to be a thin line between preference and prejudice and it will never take long for someone who airs their "preferences" in public to start ranting about some racist bullshit.
I hate the innocence play in these discussions. I think people genuinely know when they're being ignorant and when they're not being. "
For once, I actually agree with you... |
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"I think people will reverse engineer the socially desirable answer to the question.
By definition, you don't know what your subconscious is thinking so if you say you're not attracted to anyone of a particular race that just happens to have negative stereotypes then personally i find it a dubious 'preference'. "
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"If you have to ask then probably.
There are groups that I am not that attracted to...east asians for one, not really into TS/TV's either. But, I cant for the life of me understand why people need to make a big song and dance about the fact. Yeah, I get the annoyance of being accused of being racist for having a preference but, most of the time, there seems to be a thin line between preference and prejudice and it will never take long for someone who airs their "preferences" in public to start ranting about some racist bullshit.
I hate the innocence play in these discussions. I think people genuinely know when they're being ignorant and when they're not being.
For once, I actually agree with you..."
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"There's whole groups of people that I absolutely WILL NOT ever meet or chat to and certainly won't fuck.
Is this prejudice?"
If someone from that group was a nice person and you wouldn't be friends with them it's prejudice. If you would but just won't fuck them then it's a preference |
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Can you be human and not prejudiced? I expect so but it's also very likely that we don't recognize, understand or accept what our personal prejudices are, as hinted at by the couple above, who I've not quoted.
I generally view a profile when contacted and make quick decisions upon interest. In real life more time would be spent actually interacting, compared to more limited messaging. I have prejudices but have made big efforts to accept people for who they are. I'm pretty neutral on racial prejudice because I perceive it as abhorrent. The tests that evaluate your unconscious prejudices are good to alert us to potential bias and prejudice.
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