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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
okay....
just wanted to say cracking state of origin 2 game this morning.... queensland being new south wales 18-16 to level it at 1-1 for the decider in 2 weeks time..... |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
right... and on the union side.....
new zealand name their side for test 1 against the lions on saturday.... kieran read is fit and back as captain...
lions team is named in an hour....
new zealand team....
backs.... Ben Smith, Israel Dagg, Ryan Crotty, Sonny Bill Williams, Rieko Ioane, Beauden Barrett, Aaron Smith;
Fowards.... Joe Moody, Codie Taylor, Owen Franks, Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Jerome Kaino, Sam Cane, Kieran Read (c).
not a bad team.... i think there are parts of that team that are getable..... the front 3 and crotty at 13... |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
and the lions test team.....
furlong, george, vinopula, Wyn Jones, Kruis, O'Mahony, O'Brien, Falatau, Murray, Farrell, Te'o, Davies, Watson, Daly, Liam Williams...
so..... Wyn Jones over Itoje, O'mahon over Warburton, Farrell over Sexton, Elliot Daly over George North, and Liam Williams over Leigh Halfpenny
brave......... very brave! |
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Just pray for shite weather at Eden park .. then lions revert to forward battle and fractured play .. line outs scrums etc etc etc .. play close to the front 5 and try starve the blacks of ball .. .. but class will probs tell .. .. referee will have his own agenda re scrums and breakdowns ..hopefully loads penalties for lions .. .. .. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Just pray for shite weather at Eden park .. then lions revert to forward battle and fractured play .. line outs scrums etc etc etc .. play close to the front 5 and try starve the blacks of ball .. .. but class will probs tell .. .. referee will have his own agenda re scrums and breakdowns ..hopefully loads penalties for lions .. .. .. "
apparently suppose to be raining for 3 days almost solid.... so you may get your wish....
wyn jones is a better scrummager than itoje and probably in the tight....
i think liam williams is a liability under the high ball... i would have played 1/2 p
also eliott daly on a wing against iaone scares me.... |
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"forgot to put up the bench...
Replacements: Ken Owens, Jack McGrath, Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, Sam Warburton, Rhys Webb, Jonathan Sexton, Leigh Halfpenny"
In theory, Halfpenny will come on for the last 30 to finish the game off. Personally though, nothing I've seen (even in the games that we won) suggest that the Lions are the type of cohesive unit that you need to be to compete with even a sub-par All Blacks team... I'm expecting a thrashing.
Cal |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"forgot to put up the bench...
Replacements: Ken Owens, Jack McGrath, Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, Sam Warburton, Rhys Webb, Jonathan Sexton, Leigh Halfpenny
In theory, Halfpenny will come on for the last 30 to finish the game off. Personally though, nothing I've seen (even in the games that we won) suggest that the Lions are the type of cohesive unit that you need to be to compete with even a sub-par All Blacks team... I'm expecting a thrashing.
Cal"
actually i am quite confident with the forwards... but the backs do scare me!!!
fortunately for us the weather is forecast to be terrible so that may cut out the expansive game... |
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"forgot to put up the bench...
Replacements: Ken Owens, Jack McGrath, Kyle Sinckler, Maro Itoje, Sam Warburton, Rhys Webb, Jonathan Sexton, Leigh Halfpenny
In theory, Halfpenny will come on for the last 30 to finish the game off. Personally though, nothing I've seen (even in the games that we won) suggest that the Lions are the type of cohesive unit that you need to be to compete with even a sub-par All Blacks team... I'm expecting a thrashing.
Cal
actually i am quite confident with the forwards... but the backs do scare me!!!
fortunately for us the weather is forecast to be terrible so that may cut out the expansive game..."
...fucking hope so .. no expansive game please ... only chance we've got if it's a forwards battle .. .... the fact he's picked square pegs in round holes regards the backs .. scary .. very scary ... |
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2 of the kiwi backrow coming straight in from injury - not sure how battled hardened they might be - fantastic players they are though
And if Sam Caine gets on the wrong side of the ref he has trouble adjusting his game
And I agree their front row can be got at |
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over a year ago
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"okay....
just wanted to say cracking state of origin 2 game this morning.... queensland being new south wales 18-16 to level it at 1-1 for the decider in 2 weeks time....."
It was very entertaining but if you was a nsw fan you'd be pissed because JT couldn't pick up his right arm and if the NSW team was smart they'd focus their attack through him. But I'm not complaining lol |
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Pretty pleased with Saturdays side, my only grumbles are not starting with itoji, our stand out performer in the lineout and loose.
And not starting with sexton at 10 is a mistake but hey, if it's not working we have them on the bench to come on at any time.
So pleased for Mahony, can't express how impressed with not just his game but his leadership skills I've been !
I still personally still believe we'll stick it up em on Saturday but as long as it's close I'll be pretty happy, beating the all blacks in their own back garden is nigh on impossible no matter how poor people rate their current team.
Come on you lions !!  |
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"Pretty pleased with Saturdays side, my only grumbles are not starting with itoji, our stand out performer in the lineout and loose.
And not starting with sexton at 10 is a mistake but hey, if it's not working we have them on the bench to come on at any time.
So pleased for Mahony, can't express how impressed with not just his game but his leadership skills I've been !
I still personally still believe we'll stick it up em on Saturday but as long as it's close I'll be pretty happy, beating the all blacks in their own back garden is nigh on impossible no matter how poor people rate their current team.
Come on you lions !! "
Agreed with what you say about Itoji. He'll be chomping at the bit when he comes off the bench though!   |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Pretty pleased with Saturdays side, my only grumbles are not starting with itoji, our stand out performer in the lineout and loose.
And not starting with sexton at 10 is a mistake but hey, if it's not working we have them on the bench to come on at any time.
So pleased for Mahony, can't express how impressed with not just his game but his leadership skills I've been !
I still personally still believe we'll stick it up em on Saturday but as long as it's close I'll be pretty happy, beating the all blacks in their own back garden is nigh on impossible no matter how poor people rate their current team.
Come on you lions !! "
if the lions are down in a close game on saturday... then you can always bring on sexton at 10 and move farrell out to 12....
the only thing i can see for starting AJW over Itoje is that maro will give you a lot more energy off the bench... which might not be the worst thing...
i thought he would have kept the saracens boys together and then Owens throwing in to AJW at line outs....
the ones that really worry me are liam williams and elliot daly.... and how are the lions are going to have to try and hide them on defense... my biigest fear that as come point te'o will be 12 and daly is going to get caught at 13 and SBW is going to lick his chops and mow them over....
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
man i am hyped.... i would so love to be at game 1 tomorrow....
i don't think the kiwi's will know whats its like when eden park is a sea of red.... it will almost be like an away game.... |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
i'll take only being down 5 at the half....
super try by SOB, i'd been cursing elliot daly's name all half but all is forgiven....
there are enough gaps in and around the ruck that if sexton does come on after 60... he will have a field day... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"okay....
just wanted to say cracking state of origin 2 game this morning.... queensland being new south wales 18-16 to level it at 1-1 for the decider in 2 weeks time....."
Sorry everybody, but .... come on the Allblacks!! |
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In theory, Halfpenny will come on for the last 30 to finish the game off. Personally though, nothing I've seen (even in the games that we won) suggest that the Lions are the type of cohesive unit that you need to be to compete with even a sub-par All Blacks team... I'm expecting a thrashing.
Cal"
Unfortunately... I rest my case 
Cal |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Trying desperately hard not to sound like a bitter jock but is this really going to be yet another tour with no blue jersey starting a test match.
Or even getting on the park? "
I would have played tommy Seymour on the wing tomorrow but I can see why they stuck with daly...
Other than that... agree with starting itoje and warburton... ajw is a lucky man not to be dropped! I would have played kruis or Courtney lawes
Playing sexton at 10 and Farrell at 12 is the right choice for me as kicks are now going to come from anywhere and will make life harder for the all blacks back 3 |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
okay.... 1st half thoughts....
I take back what i said about AJW, he and itoje are playing really well....
love the way sexton and farrell are dove-tailing at 10/12.... they are switching positions all the time and is making for much quicker ball....
just kick the ball at naholo on the wing... he looks a liability
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
as much as i normally hate owen farrell... my god i could have his babies right now.....
that was epic!!!!!!!
that was like a home game.... I might make 1 or 2 changes next week... but its tweeking
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
aftermath of test 2....
Sonny bill williams gets a 4 week ban after being sent off
Sean O'Brien cleared to play in test 3 next week after his citing charge for foul play was dismissed........ |
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"aftermath of test 2....
Sonny bill williams gets a 4 week ban after being sent off
Sean O'Brien cleared to play in test 3 next week after his citing charge for foul play was dismissed........"
Good news on O'Brien, but even though it's the right choice, Sonny-Bill is a sad loss for the decider... such a fantastic player to watch.
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
team news today....
New Zealand team just announced.... 3 changes, all in the backs.....
Laumape, who came on and had a really good game starts for the Suspended Sonny Bill williams at 12,
both wingers from test 2 are dropped
Julian Savea comes in on one wing, Israel Dagg moves from full back to the other wing, Jordie Barrett comes in at Full back
the lions team is announced at 8....... i think the only question is going to be whether vinopula or macgrath starts at prop..... |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Racist squad
Biased perhaps but racist is a bit strong.
And you can't blame the squad, just the man who picked them. "
the problem is i could have picked 5 or 6 scots who fully deserved to go on the tour.... but none of them would have likely been in my starting 15 or matchday 23
the only 1 i would have made an arguement for is stuart hogg... and he wasn't having the best of tours
I like the gray brothers..... but over AJW, or Itoje, or Kruis, or even Launchbury who also didn't go?
and i do like Hamish Watson and John Barclay so which the Back Rowers who did replace them with? or jamie heaslip who again was unlucky not to go?
I would have made the case for WP Nel if he has not have been injured all season and came back so late.
Finn Russell was unlucky.... but over Sexton or Farrell at 10?
so you tell me which Scot should have gone.... and which person you would have left out????? |
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"Racist squad
Biased perhaps but racist is a bit strong.
And you can't blame the squad, just the man who picked them.
the problem is i could have picked 5 or 6 scots who fully deserved to go on the tour.... but none of them would have likely been in my starting 15 or matchday 23
the only 1 i would have made an arguement for is stuart hogg... and he wasn't having the best of tours
I like the gray brothers..... but over AJW, or Itoje, or Kruis, or even Launchbury who also didn't go?
and i do like Hamish Watson and John Barclay so which the Back Rowers who did replace them with? or jamie heaslip who again was unlucky not to go?
I would have made the case for WP Nel if he has not have been injured all season and came back so late.
Finn Russell was unlucky.... but over Sexton or Farrell at 10?
so you tell me which Scot should have gone.... and which person you would have left out?????"
The last tour Gatland picks Richie Gray to come on for last 5 minutes of the last game for a cameo role, this time round no scots picked on the tour. Seymours been scoring tries. Awj & warburton have not played well for years. Ive said for years that at least 1 player from each country should start a game to call it b & i lions not pick 2 to be squad players. Scottish rugby has been improving the last 2 or 3 years while the welsh national team has stalled & went back but around 15 welsh players went. Gatland doesnt like scotland which is obvious. If Gatland wanted the best 15 to play then he should have picked all English players as they have been the best 6 home team for last couple of seasons. The integrity has gone from Gatlands selections from the off.launchbury should have been on the tour, warburton no.awj has the experience. Falatau hasnt had the best season but was an automatic pick. See what saturday brings. The welsh english & irish lions need to be at there best |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
only 6 down when it could be 20..... the all blacks should be out of sight
sexton is limping round... if he cant shake it off after 5 minutes in the 2nd half get him off and bring on te'o....
good game but the tackling is brutal |
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Great first half. Nerve jangling 2nd half.
The Lions were screaming at the touch judge every scrum second half but to balance that, he'll of a ref call with less that two minutes left.
Well done Lions, we'll done Rugby |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"We were massively lucky at the end, but Farrell's kicking was phenomenal!
What a match!!
Best of British and Irish
Yeah but only when the ball was on a Tee"
Doesn't matter how the points are scored... |
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"We were massively lucky at the end, but Farrell's kicking was phenomenal!
What a match!!
Best of British and Irish
Yeah but only when the ball was on a Tee
Doesn't matter how the points are scored..."
Yeah but that wasn't what I ment.
Other than that he had a poor game. His kicking upfield was poor |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Nothing unintentional about that off side. "
thats just so instinctive and so close to him that it had to be accidental offside
can i be the first person to now advocate for extra time.... because as well as that was and as good as that game was.... it just feels...meh!
with time this will be called an epic.... but right now it just doesn't sit right |
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"Nothing unintentional about that off side.
thats just so instinctive and so close to him that it had to be accidental offside
can i be the first person to now advocate for extra time.... because as well as that was and as good as that game was.... it just feels...meh!
with time this will be called an epic.... but right now it just doesn't sit right"
How long have The Lions been there? Ends in anti climax with no winner.
Strange. |
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"Nothing unintentional about that off side.
thats just so instinctive and so close to him that it had to be accidental offside
can i be the first person to now advocate for extra time.... because as well as that was and as good as that game was.... it just feels...meh!
with time this will be called an epic.... but right now it just doesn't sit right"
He reached out to the ball. It didn't hit him...rrflexes maybe...but still intent on his behalf. |
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"Nothing unintentional about that off side.
Or Williams getting knocked in the back whilst in the air
Fair challenge in the air. You expect it from a kick off. "
It was only a tickle but NZ were never going to win that ball once it went over that line.
Great too see the respect between both teams
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
man/men of the series... for me, if i was going to pick a forward i would have said Sean o'Brien..... if a back then Jonathan Davies....
as someone who played their rugby trade at centre.... the work JD did both on and off the ball was immense... |
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"Kieran Read could have been a little more enthusiastic in the post match presentation  Lions did incredibly well to hang on in there. "
What would you liked him to say that he didn't and describe how |
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Roarrrrrrr! 
