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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The founder of the English Defence League has been convicted of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans.
Stephen Lennon, 28, led Luton Town supporters and chanted "EDL till I die"" as they clashed with Newport County fans in Luton, a court heard.
Should he now resign from EDL? Or is this par for the course?? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The founder of the English Defence League has been convicted of leading a brawl involving 100 football fans.
Stephen Lennon, 28, led Luton Town supporters and chanted "EDL till I die"" as they clashed with Newport County fans in Luton, a court heard.
Should he now resign from EDL? Or is this par for the course??"
Realisticly he will be sentenced if found guilty of a crime. If the courts say he cannot run the EDL then so be it. If members of the EDL don't want him then so be it. Personally like most here have little or no interest in the EDL. Are you trying to promote it by any chance? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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EDL are scum. End of. And as the BNP falls apart scarily the EDL will continue to prosper.
Have to agree that the OP appears to be deliberately baiting. Despite the intolerence often shown on these forums, I prey that the EDL are generally viewed as so abhorrent that few if any on here would condone them.
The fact that any member is convicted of violent crimes is on a par with the revelation that bears shit in the woods.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are you trying to promote it by any chance? "
Given that he is from MK, and the EDL have it's roots in Luton - I'd say he wouldn't support it if his life depended on it. Local rivalry sorta stuff. lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Are you trying to promote it by any chance?
Given that he is from MK, and the EDL have it's roots in Luton - I'd say he wouldn't support it if his life depended on it. Local rivalry sorta stuff. lol"
There are stranger things in life. They say bad publicity is better than no publicity especially for a nonentity like the EDL. I suppose commenting on the thread in the first place is giving them publicity. Negative elements in life though shouldn't be encouraged though. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
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Any political party is enough to make me snooze. One that is divisive and anti inclusive doubly so. EDL are BNP wannabes and BNP are sad little bastards so that makes them less than pathetic. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Any political party is enough to make me snooze. One that is divisive and anti inclusive doubly so. EDL are BNP wannabes and BNP are sad little bastards so that makes them less than pathetic."
EDL have way more in common with the National Front and their one dimensional and violent policies than they do with the BNP who at least masquerade as a political party.
Ignoring them is dangerous. |
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"EDL have way more in common with the National Front and their one dimensional and violent policies than they do with the BNP who at least masquerade as a political party.
Ignoring them is dangerous."
Which is precisely why the EDL were very quick to distance themselves from the loony of Oslo. Cameron has spotted it though and the EDL can now look forward to a more closer scrutinisation. |
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By *yrdwomanWoman
over a year ago
Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum |
"Any political party is enough to make me snooze. One that is divisive and anti inclusive doubly so. EDL are BNP wannabes and BNP are sad little bastards so that makes them less than pathetic.
EDL have way more in common with the National Front and their one dimensional and violent policies than they do with the BNP who at least masquerade as a political party.
Ignoring them is dangerous."
I also ignore Labour and Tories. Is that dangerous too?
Oh, I agree there will always be mouth breathers who vote for these sad sacks but luckily British people abhor extremism. We should be safe. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Any political party is enough to make me snooze. One that is divisive and anti inclusive doubly so. EDL are BNP wannabes and BNP are sad little bastards so that makes them less than pathetic.
EDL have way more in common with the National Front and their one dimensional and violent policies than they do with the BNP who at least masquerade as a political party.
Ignoring them is dangerous.
I also ignore Labour and Tories. Is that dangerous too?
Oh, I agree there will always be mouth breathers who vote for these sad sacks but luckily British people abhor extremism. We should be safe."
Personally in the current social and economic climate I donlt understand anyone that ignores politics. Is that dangerous, not for me to define, but ignoring fachists is undeniably dangerous.
As for saying we as a nation abhor extremism, to be honest I think that that is niave but maybe that is as a consequence of ignoring politics? Just read the veil thread, we are not a tolerent nation if that is an accurate representation. The BNP were crushed in the last election but go do some research about the amount of support they were getting a few years ago, the amount of councillors, the very real possibility of them having control of councils, the very real possibility of them gaining a mayor in Stoke, non of that sounds like a country that abhors extremism.
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history shows us that in times of economic hardship far right parties tend to flourish...
better to have a debate with them and expose their idealogy than ignore them
same goes for other extremists.. |
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"history shows us that in times of economic hardship far right parties tend to flourish...
better to have a debate with them and expose their idealogy than ignore them
same goes for other extremists.."
I watched Nick Griffen BNP on question time last year , the BBC tried to set him up with the far left audience that was hand picked , personally I thought it backfired on the BBC big time ,it gave Griffen quite good ammunition |
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"history shows us that in times of economic hardship far right parties tend to flourish...
better to have a debate with them and expose their idealogy than ignore them
same goes for other extremists..
I watched Nick Griffen BNP on question time last year , the BBC tried to set him up with the far left audience that was hand picked , personally I thought it backfired on the BBC big time ,it gave Griffen quite good ammunition "
You are having a laugh surely? He was slated by both the main stream media and his own supporters. The criticism in the press coupled with him coming across so poorly was in no small way linked to their downturn, while the criticism highlighted the infighting within the BNP contributing massively to the internal problems that have manifested themselves since with the party insolvent and on the verge of collapse. |
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I don't think Cameron gives Special Branch enough credit when he announces that it may be time to look deeper into Far Right groups in the UK.....
SO12 will already know the identities and full details of all the main players in organisations like the EDL, many of them if not all are already the subject of surveillance and under cover investigation.
Dishing out soundbites in joint press conferences with his Spanish counterpart make it look like our intelligence agencies have taken their eye off the ball when it comes to matters of the far Right.....and that would be misleading.
Was surprised to hear him say that today to be honest....the Police must be shaking their heads at times. |
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"I don't think Cameron gives Special Branch enough credit when he announces that it may be time to look deeper into Far Right groups in the UK.....
SO12 will already know the identities and full details of all the main players in organisations like the EDL, many of them if not all are already the subject of surveillance and under cover investigation.
Dishing out soundbites in joint press conferences with his Spanish counterpart make it look like our intelligence agencies have taken their eye off the ball when it comes to matters of the far Right.....and that would be misleading.
Was surprised to hear him say that today to be honest....the Police must be shaking their heads at times."
Or he could have simply been reassuring the public that he hasn't taken his eye off the ball. I think we all know that our security/clandestine services are ever operational regardless of who's in the big chair. You really ought to work for Labour Spin Dept Jane lol.  |
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"history shows us that in times of economic hardship far right parties tend to flourish...
better to have a debate with them and expose their idealogy than ignore them
same goes for other extremists..
I watched Nick Griffen BNP on question time last year , the BBC tried to set him up with the far left audience that was hand picked , personally I thought it backfired on the BBC big time ,it gave Griffen quite good ammunition "
with respect you may want to watch it again, he got exposed to be a fool and his arguments were demolished piece by piece one after the other..imho that is.
perhaps its about perception.... |
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"I don't think Cameron gives Special Branch enough credit when he announces that it may be time to look deeper into Far Right groups in the UK.....
SO12 will already know the identities and full details of all the main players in organisations like the EDL, many of them if not all are already the subject of surveillance and under cover investigation.
Dishing out soundbites in joint press conferences with his Spanish counterpart make it look like our intelligence agencies have taken their eye off the ball when it comes to matters of the far Right.....and that would be misleading.
Was surprised to hear him say that today to be honest....the Police must be shaking their heads at times."
got to agree, then again probably to be expected from 'our dave' |
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By (user no longer on site)
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same goes for other extremists..
I watched Nick Griffen BNP on question time last year , the BBC tried to set him up with the far left audience that was hand picked , personally I thought it backfired on the BBC big time ,it gave Griffen quite good ammunition "
Far left audience? That's as ridiculous as calling the EDL far right. The EDL have some rabble-rousing bollocks mixed with racism. That doesn't make them far right to me. The hardcore far right factions I remember when I lived overseas are way more insane and dedicated. The real fear I have with the EDL is that the press hype them up to be fascist devils. How would the press react if a real fascist devil came into prominence in England? There's an awful lot of hyperbole around and about.
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By (user no longer on site)
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Freedom of speech and expression are cornerstones of our society - sadly quite often these rights are abused by minority groups from all persuasions. If they are out there saying what they want to say at least we know about them. It's the ones who we don't know about that worry me more. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"history shows us that in times of economic hardship far right parties tend to flourish...
better to have a debate with them and expose their idealogy than ignore them
same goes for other extremists..
I watched Nick Griffen BNP on question time last year , the BBC tried to set him up with the far left audience that was hand picked , personally I thought it backfired on the BBC big time ,it gave Griffen quite good ammunition
with respect you may want to watch it again, he got exposed to be a fool and his arguments were demolished piece by piece one after the other..imho that is.
perhaps its about perception.... "
Agreed. Griffin was exposed for the idiot that he is on national TV.
I enjoyed it immensely. |
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