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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?! |
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By *horltzMan
over a year ago
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?! "
Does nothing exist ? If their is nothing there , then surely that's something  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
Does nothing exist ? If their is nothing there , then surely that's something "
Mind-blown  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"I don't believe in majority of the 'facts' about universe.
Main reason being is that the data they collect is too old to hold relevance in present time  "
Jeez! I hadn't even considered that |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"oh i cant do this yet - space makes me feel so tiny and meaningless
I cannot even begin to comprehend space. "
i dont even get how tv and telephone really work -  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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What's with all the thinking stuff
I mean I love space and all, and enjoy nothing more than an existential debate/conversation, but I get to turn my brain off on fab.
It's just boobs and bums  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I haven't had enough sleep to deal with any kinda existential thought processes. If I start on that I'll just fritz what little brain power I have left and burn out those poor overtaxed neurons  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It's all just our best approximation of what we thing space might be in the context of all the other interpretations we've made about our universe. The truth is we don't really know anything when you consider our limited perspective on things but we create a narrative and try to fit all the best findings we have into it until another more compelling one comes along and we work off of that...
Mind boggling to think of all that there is to know and how little will be understood... |
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By *rowleyMan
over a year ago
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But does space go on forever?
Some think it is constantly expanding, out from the Big Bang and at some point it will start folding in on itself.
Or to put it another way: "Fire bad. Tree, pretty" |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"But does space go on forever?
Some think it is constantly expanding, out from the Big Bang and at some point it will start folding in on itself.
Or to put it another way: "Fire bad. Tree, pretty""
But what is it expanding in to?... that absence of matter is a thing... and then where does that end?... See?... aaargh!!! Brain fritz imminent!!!  |
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"But does space go on forever?
Some think it is constantly expanding, out from the Big Bang and at some point it will start folding in on itself.
Or to put it another way: "Fire bad. Tree, pretty"
But what is it expanding in to?... that absence of matter is a thing... and then where does that end?... See?... aaargh!!! Brain fritz imminent!!! "
Make it stop...I'm going back to building a Lego castle. |
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By *rowleyMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"But does space go on forever?
Some think it is constantly expanding, out from the Big Bang and at some point it will start folding in on itself.
Or to put it another way: "Fire bad. Tree, pretty"
But what is it expanding in to?... that absence of matter is a thing... and then where does that end?... See?... aaargh!!! Brain fritz imminent!!! "
Perhaps it is expanding into the space between universes.
That somewhere out there is a universe older than ours that is contracting and we are expanding to take that space, or we are pushing it to contract.
I'm not helping... an I? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes"
I'd say the opposite |
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By *rowleyMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite "
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists? |
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By *rowleyMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"Why do we have space and then deep space, surely it's one and the same. And why do we get black holes in space when it's essentially a giant hole x "
A black hole is a compressed star that has collapsed in on itself to the point that not even light can escape it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?! "
I'll ask the Mrs. She's an astrophysics student. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?"
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die? |
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By *rrol.BMan
over a year ago
Wrexham |
"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?"
Surely death, in terms of a sentient being, is the point at which that sentient being ceases to be sentient?
If you could rearrange my atoms so I was a chair but I retained my sense of self then I haven't died. Rearrange my atoms into a chair and I lose my sense of self... I've ceased to exist. I am dead regardless of the comfortable wing back chair that still exists. |
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Apparently contrary to initial thoughts we arent here because of the big bang. But are a result of the recoil of the big bang and therefore could all dissapear *just like that* when the 'snap back' occurs.
How pathetic is that. We aren't even the fun bit. Just a bit of fluff on the end of the real event.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?"
Time, God, death are all human concepts  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?
Surely death, in terms of a sentient being, is the point at which that sentient being ceases to be sentient?
If you could rearrange my atoms so I was a chair but I retained my sense of self then I haven't died. Rearrange my atoms into a chair and I lose my sense of self... I've ceased to exist. I am dead regardless of the comfortable wing back chair that still exists."
Are you saying people who are in a comma/unconscious are dead ?
I know they're still able to feel things but there are ilnesses which prevent you from feeling physical pain and combined that with being unconscious or in a comma you could be therefore classified as dead. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?"
Using that logic, are we ever born?
And to answer both, it depends on what you class as "you". If "you" are just atoms, then you will never be born, and never die, you'll just be.
If "you" are the result of those atoms interacting with each other to produce a sentient being with actions memories and feelings, then when those interactions stop, "you" must be able to die. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Apparently contrary to initial thoughts we arent here because of the big bang. But are a result of the recoil of the big bang and therefore could all dissapear *just like that* when the 'snap back' occurs.
How pathetic is that. We aren't even the fun bit. Just a bit of fluff on the end of the real event.
"
A bit of fluff 
This bit of fluff is going to exercise her fluffy muscles to eventually aid reduction of her fluffy flab |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"how do we know t goes on forever - if we were drifting through it - measuring as we go - how do we know we not just lost and going round in circles "
You determine your position relative to other constants in the universe, ie Sun, Earth etc |
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"Apparently contrary to initial thoughts we arent here because of the big bang. But are a result of the recoil of the big bang and therefore could all dissapear *just like that* when the 'snap back' occurs.
How pathetic is that. We aren't even the fun bit. Just a bit of fluff on the end of the real event.
A bit of fluff
This bit of fluff is going to exercise her fluffy muscles to eventually aid reduction of her fluffy flab "
Catch ya later fluffster!  |
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By *rowleyMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?"
When we die we decompose so the matter becomes something else.
What happens to our conscious is a different matter. |
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By *rowleyMan
over a year ago
Edinburgh |
"Apparently contrary to initial thoughts we arent here because of the big bang. But are a result of the recoil of the big bang and therefore could all dissapear *just like that* when the 'snap back' occurs.
How pathetic is that. We aren't even the fun bit. Just a bit of fluff on the end of the real event.
A bit of fluff
This bit of fluff is going to exercise her fluffy muscles to eventually aid reduction of her fluffy flab "
I did that this morning. Feel all stiff and sore now  |
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By *rrol.BMan
over a year ago
Wrexham |
"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?
Surely death, in terms of a sentient being, is the point at which that sentient being ceases to be sentient?
If you could rearrange my atoms so I was a chair but I retained my sense of self then I haven't died. Rearrange my atoms into a chair and I lose my sense of self... I've ceased to exist. I am dead regardless of the comfortable wing back chair that still exists.
Are you saying people who are in a comma/unconscious are dead ?"
No. I'm saying there is a difference between matter and mind. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?! "
We are not as clever as we like to think we are, and much is beyond our understanding. Just keep an open mind and you will be fine. I don't even understand people yet, never mind the universe. ....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?
Surely death, in terms of a sentient being, is the point at which that sentient being ceases to be sentient?
If you could rearrange my atoms so I was a chair but I retained my sense of self then I haven't died. Rearrange my atoms into a chair and I lose my sense of self... I've ceased to exist. I am dead regardless of the comfortable wing back chair that still exists.
Are you saying people who are in a comma/unconscious are dead ?
No. I'm saying there is a difference between matter and mind."
I like this one. We do know our bodies contain energy (electrical) so what happens to it when the body stops functioning? Does it cease to be or just dissipate to levels so low we can't detect it and float around as what we call a soul. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"But does space go on forever?
Some think it is constantly expanding, out from the Big Bang and at some point it will start folding in on itself.
Or to put it another way: "Fire bad. Tree, pretty"
But what is it expanding in to?... that absence of matter is a thing... and then where does that end?... See?... aaargh!!! Brain fritz imminent!!!
Make it stop...I'm going back to building a Lego castle. "
I can't do that without the instructions |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?
Surely death, in terms of a sentient being, is the point at which that sentient being ceases to be sentient?
If you could rearrange my atoms so I was a chair but I retained my sense of self then I haven't died. Rearrange my atoms into a chair and I lose my sense of self... I've ceased to exist. I am dead regardless of the comfortable wing back chair that still exists.
Are you saying people who are in a comma/unconscious are dead ?
No. I'm saying there is a difference between matter and mind.
I like this one. We do know our bodies contain energy (electrical) so what happens to it when the body stops functioning? Does it cease to be or just dissipate to levels so low we can't detect it and float around as what we call a soul."
Energy cant be created or destroyed only transformed to another state.
Logic says it becomes static energy, I argue it becomes Death Buzz |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Oooh are we having a discussion about quantum physics?
Other worthy questions:
Does time exist?
Does God exist?
Does death exist?
Yes
No
Yes
I'd say the opposite
But time is quantifable.
I'm not going to debat God, because I think everyone should be allowed to believe what they want. And I'm happy that you do.
Why don't you think death exists?
Because we're all made up of atoms which are matter and since matter cannot be created or destroyed then how can we die?
Surely death, in terms of a sentient being, is the point at which that sentient being ceases to be sentient?
If you could rearrange my atoms so I was a chair but I retained my sense of self then I haven't died. Rearrange my atoms into a chair and I lose my sense of self... I've ceased to exist. I am dead regardless of the comfortable wing back chair that still exists.
Are you saying people who are in a comma/unconscious are dead ?
No. I'm saying there is a difference between matter and mind.
I like this one. We do know our bodies contain energy (electrical) so what happens to it when the body stops functioning? Does it cease to be or just dissipate to levels so low we can't detect it and float around as what we call a soul.
Energy cant be created or destroyed only transformed to another state.
Logic says it becomes static energy, I argue it becomes Death Buzz "
Ok, so can that static energy contain traces/memories of our former lives and find it's way into newborns, ie reincarnation and deja vu, memories of past lives etc? |
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"But does space go on forever?
Some think it is constantly expanding, out from the Big Bang and at some point it will start folding in on itself.
Or to put it another way: "Fire bad. Tree, pretty"
But what is it expanding in to?... that absence of matter is a thing... and then where does that end?... See?... aaargh!!! Brain fritz imminent!!!
Make it stop...I'm going back to building a Lego castle.
I can't do that without the instructions "
I freestyle. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Humans don't have the capacity to understand the concept of eternal, or fathom how endless the universe is.
Give up.  "
I agree that there are somethings we just can't comprehend. But that's when it's most fun to explore and get creative with ideas! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?! "
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space... "
Atoms |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Here's the thing Hopster, space isn't a thing, it's the things inside it that are things. Now this begs the question, if the things inside space are things that exist then the space between then must be some kind of thing - right? How can you measure a distance of nothing? This kind of thing blows my mind and reminds me of my favourite quote from Carl Sagan:
"The Cosmos is all that is, ever was or ever will be".
There's also another quote about thinking too hard and your brain falling out but I'll leave that there... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space... "
I love that there is no such thing as a solid |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space...
Atoms "
Yes, but what does an atom contain? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Why do we have space and then deep space, surely it's one and the same. And why do we get black holes in space when it's essentially a giant hole x "
If there is just space how can it have a hole in it... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space...
Atoms
Yes, but what does an atom contain? "
Electrons and neutrons |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space...
Atoms
Yes, but what does an atom contain? "
Sub-atomic particles obviously
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By (user no longer on site)
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space...
Atoms
Yes, but what does an atom contain?
Sub-atomic particles obviously
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And between those particles? |
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By *rrol.BMan
over a year ago
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"Why do we have space and then deep space, surely it's one and the same. And why do we get black holes in space when it's essentially a giant hole x
If there is just space how can it have a hole in it..."
I can't tell if this is flippancy or a lack of understanding. I'll assume the latter.
A black hole isn't a hole. It is a region of such strong gravitational forces that even light can't escape.
This appears as a black hole in space. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Here's the thing Hopster, space isn't a thing, it's the things inside it that are things. Now this begs the question, if the things inside space are things that exist then the space between then must be some kind of thing - right? How can you measure a distance of nothing? This kind of thing blows my mind and reminds me of my favourite quote from Carl Sagan:
"The Cosmos is all that is, ever was or ever will be".
There's also another quote about thinking too hard and your brain falling out but I'll leave that there... "
Mr Bear you are not helping one little bit! |
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"There are so many unanswered questions out there. What confuses you most? Lets see if any fabbers can shed some light!
Id like to know how space can go on forever?! If space is just a vacuum so essentially nothing then how is it even a thing and surely all things have a beginning middle and end?!?!
If you're struggling with that idea, try imagining how it's possible that all matter (including yourself) is 99.99% empty space...
Atoms
Yes, but what does an atom contain?
Sub-atomic particles obviously
And between those particles? "
Well you can split electrons into quarks, but I dont think we know any smaller than that |
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