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By (user no longer on site) OP over a year ago

What a waste of a talent

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

you beat me to it

just read it in the news

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Has she left us..?

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By *urreyfun2008Man over a year ago

East Grinstead

Yes, it appears at 4pm today, breaking news, and BBC reporting now too.

As a person not someone I was into, but still loved her music, such a brilliant talent.

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By *ittle_brat_evie!!Woman over a year ago

evesham

OMG really???

to be fair i am not surprised er lifewas cut shourt with the lie choices she made but it is still sad to hear of a young life being taken

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

did like some of her music but her drink and drug problems were allways going to be her downfall it was just a matter of time

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By *uckoldandWifeCouple over a year ago

Manchester

really sad news for her folks and family

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Poor woman, she was never going to make "old bones" RIP

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By *unky monkeyMan over a year ago

in the night garden

What a fucking waste!

Frank is as good a debut album as you will ever hear. Such a shame its been an incredibly steep down hill slope since then.

RIP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Immensely sad news...always a tragic waste when a life is taken that way...

Our thoughts are with the family..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago
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very sad

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

very sad but why are we not surprised ?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How heart breaking. What a waste of a life and talent

RIP

Bless her family, friends and fans xxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Never liked her music much and her lifestyle was always heading her to an early grave. Siren just told me and it came as no surprise at all.

RIP to a woman who could have had so much but threw it all away.

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By *innamon!Woman over a year ago

no matter

So sad silly girl just threw it all away .. do hope her little Godaughter Dionne manages to keep away from all the drugs and stuff in her new career.. RIP Amy.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I hope the family get some help...thats hell of a thing to come thru and be at peace..

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By *taffs_hotwifeCouple over a year ago

Wolverhampton

Expected it sooner to be honest, tragic story of a girl that got in with the wrong crowd. She had the World at her feet and loving people around her trying to help her but it appears it was all in vain.

I really feel for her long suffering family to be honest.

Maybe she can find the peace in death she couldn't find in life.

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By *opeye-OliveCouple over a year ago

worcester

The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.

Gutted, very sorry for you and your familly.

RIP Amy, your songs live on

Our world goes back to black

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By *bfoxxxMan over a year ago

Crete or LANCASTER

WHAT ????????????

TRUE ?????????????

That's tragic. Predictable, perhaps, but she joins so many other Greats and Legends. Jamming with Marley, duo with Janis Joplin, Hendrix etc.

I say NO ! NO! NO!

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By *mumaWoman over a year ago

Livingston

sad loss but the tale was written a long time ago.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Shame but she wasted her talent and chance at what other musicians would kill for

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By *ustyAngelWoman over a year ago

gloucester

Poor triubled thing, find rest

RIP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"WHAT ????????????

TRUE ?????????????

That's tragic. Predictable, perhaps, but she joins so many other Greats and Legends. Jamming with Marley, duo with Janis Joplin, Hendrix etc.

I say NO ! NO! NO!

I don't think she's earned the right to be listed alongside Marley, Joplin or Hendrix. A talent unfulfilled is probably how history will remember her.

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By *oantrimcpl2010Couple over a year ago

Lisburn

OMG just heard , such a waste of a young talented person. RIP amy

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By *unky monkeyMan over a year ago

in the night garden

I didn't realise she was 27.

What is it with that number!?

Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain and now AW.

Bizarre.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I didn't realise she was 27.

What is it with that number!?

Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain and now AW.

Bizarre."

Bizarre? or by design? I dread to think what the thought processes of a suicide might be in their final hours.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

A song by Neil Young always springs to mind...The needle and the damage done...won`t labour that point, as I understand the sites stance on that issue...

Yeah, thats very odd Funky... bizarre..

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

its sad for anyone at the age of 27 to lose their life.

i was never a great fan of Amy, a superb singer, but just slipped down a bad path with the drugs.

my heart is with her family and close friends.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Poor troubled girl , such a shame

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By *oe_Steve_NWestCouple over a year ago

Bolton

Terrible shame but I have to say that I keep crying over the atrocity in Norway with all those innocent youngsters being murdered, that's a true tragedy. Z

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sad she has joined the 27 club

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Kurt Kobain, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin to name but a few...

she was a really good singer and could have been one of the best but she loved other things more .... RIP ...... SAD DAY X i loved her music had a real blues and soul sound to it .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

More or less expected to hear that news one of these days ...

What a shame and a waste of talent ......... she was one of my heroes (Bob) ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

im not really bothered.. was her own fault.

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By *enithWoman over a year ago

closer than you think

Tried to make her go to rehab she said 'ARGGH BLARGH I'M A SPITTER'

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

"Terrible shame but I have to say that I keep crying over the atrocity in Norway with all those innocent youngsters being murdered, that's a true tragedy. Z"

Here here... About time priorities were put in order! 11 different posters on Oslo and already 30 different posters on here!

"im not really bothered.. was her own fault."

Might sound a bit harsh, but I have a similar sentiment!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Terrible shame but I have to say that I keep crying over the atrocity in Norway with all those innocent youngsters being murdered, that's a true tragedy. Z

Here here... About time priorities were put in order! 11 different posters on Oslo and already 30 different posters on here!

im not really bothered.. was her own fault.

Might sound a bit harsh, but I have a similar sentiment!

Hadn't realised that there was a hard and fast way in which priorites were meant to be listed - thought it was up to the individual ........

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I'm awaiting the string of 'Rehab' jokes...

Another member to Club 27!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

RIP Amy. You are a true star and will be so missed. God Bless

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm awaiting the string of 'Rehab' jokes...

Another member to Club 27!!"
sure thay will come ....... as she said no no no to Rehab ........ its all sad her death and all them others that lost there life .... thing is she new what she was doing to herself others never had a clue was a normal day and some mad person come along kill them .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

How terrible, what an awful waste of a young life, talented girl, her family did a lot to support her, awful its ended this way

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Such a waste of pure musical talent. and so young Poor girl

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By *ittlemorespiceCouple over a year ago

North Cornwall

Gutted. RIP Amy x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

how spooky was chatting with a client this afternoon about music and she came up in the convo we were saying it would be great to see her get her act together and start producing some new stuff

personally i'm gutted at the waste of a great talent but very sadly not surprised many greats live fast and die young

as for the oslo thing maybe many like me have just got in and this was the first thread they read

too many are too quick to critise me thinks

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

too many are too quick to critise me thinks"

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By *TUNNAWoman over a year ago

glasgow

aww she was a brill singer

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

too many are too quick to critise me thinks

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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Very sad, what a waste.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

quite honestly thought she couldnt sing and had no talent at all, came as no surprise at all to hear this, it was inevitable infact im surprised she lasted as long as she did

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Its a shame, but its pretty much self inflicted, decent singer though. Another memeber of Club 27.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"quite honestly thought she couldnt sing and had no talent at all, came as no surprise at all to hear this, it was inevitable infact im surprised she lasted as long as she did "
if she could not sing how come she got 5 gramies for Back To Black ...she was one of the best . And you see over next weeks alot will say the same from all over the world .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The girl could sing! Addiction is a terrible thing.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

too many are too quick to critise me thinks

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

"Hadn't realised that there was a hard and fast way in which priorites were meant to be listed - thought it was up to the individual ........"

Sadly you are right of course. I say sadly, because it shows that people are more moved by celebrity than by a truly terrible tragedy to people who had not asked for or deserved death! Not saying Amy Winehouse deserved death, but she seemed to court it every day! Oh.. and I was just giving my opinion, as I have a right to do!

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By * times sexyCouple over a year ago

Staffs

IM AM DEVASTATED. SO YOUNG, SO TALENTED. HOPE SHE FINDS THE PEACE IN DEATH SHE COULDNT IN LIFE

THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT TO ABUSE HER . LEAVE IT !! EVERYONE IS SOMEONES DAUGHTER AND SON. LET THEM GRIEVE WITHOUT BAD WORDS X

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By * times sexyCouple over a year ago

Staffs

IM AM DEVASTATED. SO YOUNG, SO TALENTED. HOPE SHE FINDS THE PEACE IN DEATH SHE COULDNT IN LIFE

THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT TO ABUSE HER . LEAVE IT !! EVERYONE IS SOMEONES DAUGHTER AND SON. LET THEM GRIEVE WITHOUT BAD WORDS X

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By *quamarina1964Woman over a year ago

Bideford

No matter what, the girl was like, its always sad when someone dies like this! She was a troubled soul this side of life, i hope she does better the other side! Bless you Amy R.I.P., huni xxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

There's been a lot of tragedy today.

this is our world.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Somehow I don't think Ms Winehouse's family will be logging in to read this thread.

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

"THOSE OF YOU THAT WANT TO ABUSE HER . LEAVE IT !! EVERYONE IS SOMEONES DAUGHTER AND SON. LET THEM GRIEVE WITHOUT BAD WORDS X"

Who is abusing her!! I have seen no one calling her names or even saying that they are glad! Just people giving opinions on her death!

Sheesh! Some people are way to touchy!

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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Oh my...even threads like this end up in a row or abuse being thrown.

Calm down please.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

alot of us loved her songs and the words to them ..... so we do feel somthing for this lady .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Somehow I don't think Ms Winehouse's family will be logging in to read this thread."

Your right Wishy ...

No more than anyone elses families will read the RIP threads that appear on here from time to time. But if you have nothing constructive to say why say anything at all ............?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

She brought about her own demise, threw her life away in fact. Yet on the same day elsewhere 85 young teenagers on the cusp of adulthood had their lives cruelly cut short in the most despicable of ways.

I know with whom my symapthies lie, and it isn't anywhere near Camden.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She brought about her own demise, threw her life away in fact. Yet on the same day elsewhere 85 young teenagers on the cusp of adulthood had their lives cruelly cut short in the most despicable of ways.

I know with whom my symapthies lie, and it isn't anywhere near Camden."

i get where your coming from honestly i do but in all cases its not those that have lost their lives but the ones they leave behind and in the case of Amy any the youngsters in oslo the families will be left with a lot of questions and anger. That is what saddens me knowing the way they will ALL be feeling right now

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By *nnie2009Couple over a year ago

Blackpool

she was brill singer but thats what fame does to some ppl

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know with whom my sympathies lie, and it isn't anywhere near Camden."

Would you feel the same if, God forbid, your own son or daughter was taken before their time due to an addiction ?

And think about it Wishy, an addiction can hit each and every one of us - no one is immune from it .......

People, glass houses, By the grace of God go I .. all those fancy phrases spring to mind.

Yes Oslo is shocking but one persons death be it self inflicted or otherwise is no less worthy than anothers and peoples feelings should be respected and not ridiculed regardeless of whom they mourn

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

slightly talented not my cup of tea , personally i dont really care about it too much . an addiction ? really ? she knew what she was doing .... so bye bye amy , next !!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Back to black will go down in history as one of the greatest albums of all time. R.I.P Miss Winehouse xxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I didn't realise she was 27.

What is it with that number!?

Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison, Kurt Cobain and now AW.

Bizarre.

Bizarre? or by design? I dread to think what the thought processes of a suicide might be in their final hours."

well said xx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know with whom my symapthies lie, and it isn't anywhere near Camden.

Absolutely. No parent should outlive their child. It must have been heartbreaking for Amy Winehouse's father to watch his daughter descend into hell and be powerless to prevent it. He tried so hard to turn her around - even at the cost of his own health, but she was on a one way journey to oblivion and he couldn't save her. As a father myself, I feel for her father, for sure.

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

I know with whom my symapthies lie, and it isn't anywhere near Camden.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I know with whom my sympathies lie, and it isn't anywhere near Camden.

Would you feel the same if, God forbid, your own son or daughter was taken before their time due to an addiction ?

And think about it Wishy, an addiction can hit each and every one of us - no one is immune from it .......

People, glass houses, By the grace of God go I .. all those fancy phrases spring to mind.

Yes Oslo is shocking but one persons death be it self inflicted or otherwise is no less worthy than anothers and peoples feelings should be respected and not ridiculed regardeless of whom they mourn

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

thats + AS i think you have it right x

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

"sad she has joined the 27 club

They should call it the three years past their sell by date club - all of them were way past their best by the time they expired...

One promising album and one over produced and over hyped album does not a legend make...

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on "

The only thing she's got in common with that list is being dead...

I feel very sorry for her dad and mum, and for those who genuinely loved her, but she never delivered on the promise that people saw in her....

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By *iamondsmiles.Woman over a year ago

little house on the praire

Harsh as it sounds hardly unexpected news

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"im not really bothered.. was her own fault."

Pretty much sums up my thoughts. She was mistress of her own destiny: those poor kids in Norway on the other hand...

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By *he tactile technicianMan over a year ago

the good lands, the bad lands, the any where you may want me lands

"Harsh as it sounds hardly unexpected news"

No, there was a girl that was never going to make old bones

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By *addy and shaunCouple over a year ago

goole

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I think our very own HPC may have a touch of ESP about her..

http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/lounge/21718

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No Christmas single this year then?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"im not really bothered.. was her own fault.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts. She was mistress of her own destiny: those poor kids in Norway on the other hand...

That's what I said and was damn near castrated for it. I just don't feel any sympathy for Winehouse. I didn't like her when she was alive, due to her lifestyle, and being dead won't change that.

Singer Billy Bragg tweets

It's not age that Hendrix, Jones, Joplin, Morrison, Cobain & Amy have in common - it's drug abuse."

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By *acktilMan over a year ago

Tewkesbury

"sad she has joined the 27 club

them were way past their best by the time they expired...

One promising album and one over produced and over hyped album does not a legend make..."

The second album was not only over produced it was incorrectly titled. I believe it should have been called Back to Back

Back to Back being the slang for a hit of Crack followed immediately by a shot of Heroin, or vice versa.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

In her corrupt world it was probably was called Back to Back initially. The record label would have had something to say about that though.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

We have the deepest sympathy for her family.

As for Amy, she had more than one chance and blew them all.

XXXX

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

"In her corrupt world it was probably was called Back to Back initially. The record label would have had something to say about that though."

I'm not sure about that theory - the lyrics make sense as being about depression - if you take black as a word for depression (as in 'Black Dog On My Shoulder') or as a word for mourning - as in Back in Black.....

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By *umpkinMan over a year ago

near the sounds of the wimborne quarter jack!

"Terrible shame but I have to say that I keep crying over the atrocity in Norway with all those innocent youngsters being murdered, that's a true tragedy. Z"

Agreed! Sadly, the massacared Nowegians won`t sell newspapers while AW will.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

Terribly sad for her poor tortured family, but I personally feel it's a bit far fetched to rank her amongst the greats of music....a couple of good albums hardly places her in that realm.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In her corrupt world it was probably was called Back to Back initially. The record label would have had something to say about that though.

It is widely credited that the album was almost entirely about her split with Blake Fielder-Civil, so yes, you're probably correct about Back to Black being about mourning that relationship in a state of depression.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"im not really bothered.. was her own fault.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts. She was mistress of her own destiny: those poor kids in Norway on the other hand...

That's what I said and was damn near castrated for it. I just don't feel any sympathy for Winehouse. I didn't like her when she was alive, due to her lifestyle, and being dead won't change that.

Singer Billy Bragg tweets

It's not age that Hendrix, Jones, Joplin, Morrison, Cobain & Amy have in common - it's drug abuse."

I know Wishy, but it's how I feel and I'm not intimidated by anyone on here. Everyone is entitled to their opinion: that's mine!

I have stood beside a grave that contained the remains of my child: so I empathise with her loved ones, as I would with anyone losing someone close.

However, I can't join the boo hooing for someone who didn't "care" about themself when my senses are being bombarded with the sight of kids being mown down in their prime by another aggrieved nutter!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"However, I can't join the boo hooing for someone who didn't "care" about themself when my senses are being bombarded with the sight of kids being mown down in their prime by another aggrieved nutter!"

I know how you feel. I was reading the details out to Siren earlier today about how he called them to come closer and then opened up with a semi-auto. It felt like someone had hit me in the stomach with a sledgehammer just reading it out loud. They never stood a chance.

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By *ENGUYMan over a year ago

Hull

Hear! Hear!

Those Norwegian kids did not stand a chance!

Those who are bleating on tonight about "poor" Amy Winehouse forget that she had a chance, in fact many chances to get her life back on track, but she blew it.

My sorrow is for those in Norway, not a two bit singer who continually thrust two fingers up at everyone who tried to help her!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"its sad for anyone at the age of 27 to lose their life.

i was never a great fan of Amy, a superb singer, but just slipped down a bad path with the drugs.

my heart is with her family and close friends."

I agree. Whether you like her music or not it is tragic whatever the circumstances and my thoughts are with her family and friends.

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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I personally don't think it is a case of, those people in Oslo died a wors death than someone else.

I just think it is sad that a young life has gone and there are two devastated parents and other family and friends grieving right now.

Just like I think there are a hell of a lot more devastated parents/ family and friends grieving in Oslo.

I don't think anyones grief will be any less no matter how their relatives die.

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By *atisfy janeWoman over a year ago

Torquay

The big difference being that the parents in Oslo probably thought they would outlive their children by some years....whereas the parents of Amy Winehouse must have been very aware that this day was alomost inevitable the way she lived her life and abused her mind and body.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Just hope this brings a 'peace' if you like to all her family. They do not have to see her destroy herself for year, and hopefully there will have been good times before the sudden end to no doubt a much loved but much toubled human being.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I personally don't think it is a case of, those people in Oslo died a wors death than someone else.

I just think it is sad that a young life has gone and there are two devastated parents and other family and friends grieving right now.

Just like I think there are a hell of a lot more devastated parents/ family and friends grieving in Oslo.

I don't think anyones grief will be any less no matter how their relatives die."

Well said.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on "

I think not, they were far superior to this waste of valuable air, please get your facts right before making such a comment!!! Two albums does not make her a great artist or a legend, and her last album was over engineered to cover her deteriorating lifestyle

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Naturally its sad for her friends & family. I've not said she isnt talented.. (ive never bought any of her music) but she had complete control of her life

No one forced vodka down her neck, or made her snort /inject heroin. With every action there is a consequence. She went into rehab several times - hell we all know the song she wrote about it.

Yet people still think 'oh what a shame' she was a waster..

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"The big difference being that the parents in Oslo probably thought they would outlive their children by some years....whereas the parents of Amy Winehouse must have been very aware that this day was alomost inevitable the way she lived her life and abused her mind and body."

No doubt they had those fears knowing her history, but I bet in the back of their minds they didn't think or at hoped that it would happen really.

I just think it isn't a competition as to who should have the most sympathy.

I feel sorry for all the parents.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

When Stu did his "list" I was tempted to put Amy Winehouse and Pete Docherty down as near certainties.

It really was just a matter of time

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

But she did win 5 Grammys in one Awards evening so there had to be talent there that others recognised!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

The whether of anyone that age is sad whether famous or not...

But not surprised...she chose that life...she choose to take drugs...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Amy went into rehab recently to try and clean up after a disaterous concert. That was surely her cry for help in a weakend mental state?. Addiction is a terrible thing that alters the state of the mind.. who is to say she was deeply troubled and battling depression..?

I just think some of the comments on here are very cold.

Where is the empathy for a fellow human being who probably tried very hard on a number of occassions to get better but was too imbalanced to maintain that path ?

I for one cringe at some of the comments posted on here. It's so frustrating that we as a human race can be so cold towards one another.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

But she did win 5 Grammys in one Awards evening so there had to be talent there that others recognised!

Yes but I wouldn't personally put her up with those greats, as they were truly great

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

But she did win 5 Grammys in one Awards evening so there had to be talent there that others recognised!

Toto won more Grammys than that in one night. Anyone mourn when their drummer, a far more talented and likeable man, died in a gardening accident?

Amy Winehouse exemplified tabloid culture and hype.

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By *ilandlarryCouple over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

"Amy went into rehab recently to try and clean up after a disaterous concert. That was surely her cry for help in a weakend mental state?. Addiction is a terrible thing that alters the state of the mind.. who is to say she was deeply troubled and battling depression..?

I just think some of the comments on here are very cold.

Where is the empathy for a fellow human being who probably tried very hard on a number of occassions to get better but was too imbalanced to maintain that path ?

I for one cringe at some of the comments posted on here. It's so frustrating that we as a human race can be so cold towards one another.

+1 Some of the comments i'm really shocked at too

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

But she did win 5 Grammys in one Awards evening so there had to be talent there that others recognised!

Toto won more Grammys than that in one night. Anyone mourn when their drummer, a far more talented and likeable man, died in a gardening accident?

Amy Winehouse exemplified tabloid culture and hype."

You kind of missed my point but never mind!

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

But she did win 5 Grammys in one Awards evening so there had to be talent there that others recognised!

Toto won more Grammys than that in one night. Anyone mourn when their drummer, a far more talented and likeable man, died in a gardening accident?

Amy Winehouse exemplified tabloid culture and hype.

You kind of missed my point but never mind!

I think I kind of made mine - Grammys go to well produced, big selling records...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

Facts ?

That is my opinion to which I think I am entitled ....

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

But she did win 5 Grammys in one Awards evening so there had to be talent there that others recognised!

Toto won more Grammys than that in one night. Anyone mourn when their drummer, a far more talented and likeable man, died in a gardening accident?

Amy Winehouse exemplified tabloid culture and hype."

Think it was for being the first british artist to recieve 5 grammys.

Im no expert, but im sure she just loved to sing and did'nt care for nor want the "celebrity" treatment either.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

I just think some of the comments on here are very cold.

Where is the empathy for a fellow human being who probably tried very hard on a number of occassions to get better but was too imbalanced to maintain that path ?

I for one cringe at some of the comments posted on here. It's so frustrating that we as a human race can be so cold towards one another.

Are you confusing empathy and sympathy?

I can empathize with her family, but I can't empathize with Amy Winehouse on any genuine level because we have almost nothing in common. And yes, she wrote a couple of decent songs which touch me, but compared to some of the jazz and soul greats she's foolishly listed alongside, her suffering is incomprehensible to me, and seems just a little overblown in a narcissistic way. She's no Rosetta Tharp or Billie Holliday, eating by the side of the road because black people weren't allowed in restaurants. She's just someone with an addiction and a taste for criminals and criminality, and that doesn't bring out my touchy feely side I'm afraid.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

sigh

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"sigh"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"In her corrupt world it was probably was called Back to Back initially. The record label would have had something to say about that though.

Are there anymore 'facts' that you have scrounged from 'Wiki' Wishy ??? ...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I just think some of the comments on here are very cold.

Where is the empathy for a fellow human being who probably tried very hard on a number of occassions to get better but was too imbalanced to maintain that path ?

I for one cringe at some of the comments posted on here. It's so frustrating that we as a human race can be so cold towards one another.

Extremely well said!

I am not pointing fingers, but it has become quite clear to me that some are quick to jump down the throat of the poor girl lying dead on a cold slab tonight.

I seriously do not think for one minute that she and other addicts actually wanted to feel that desperate for their next buzz. It is well known that her ex-hubby led her down the path of hardcore substances.... I refuse to blame him though as he was and addict himself.

I've seen it first hand, someone battling a frightening addiction, it's horrendous. It's a battle that they sadly lost aged only a year older than poor Amy.

RIP to My Big Bro & Amy xxxxx

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

No pitty from me she was in control of her own life as we all are, you cannot help those who do not want to be helped.

been here before with someone who drank themself to death and it was not nice to see.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I just think some of the comments on here are very cold.

Where is the empathy for a fellow human being who probably tried very hard on a number of occassions to get better but was too imbalanced to maintain that path ?

I for one cringe at some of the comments posted on here. It's so frustrating that we as a human race can be so cold towards one another.

Extremely well said!

I am not pointing fingers, but it has become quite clear to me that some are quick to jump down the throat of the poor girl lying dead on a cold slab tonight.

I've seen it first hand, someone battling a frightening addiction, it's horrendous. It's a battle that they sadly lost aged only a year older than poor Amy.

RIP to My Big Bro & Amy xxxxx"

well said

xxxxxxx

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By *ensual temptressWoman over a year ago

Southampton

any death is sad at such a young age .

however amy chose her direction in life .she also had meny many chances,resorces and family support that other addicts would be greatful to have fraction of that chance to get clean . the people brutally gunned down had no choice in their situation and no chance .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Those who are bleating on tonight about "poor" Amy Winehouse forget that she had a chance, in fact many chances to get her life back on track, but she blew it.

Obviously you know the results of the post mortem which hasn't yet taken place. Given that you are privvy to this info, maybe you need to share it with us chapter and verse or shut your face in the absence of the facts .... you choose.

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By *ilandlarryCouple over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

Addiction is a powerful thing .... there is nothing more to say than that. People who are making fun of her and saying she deserved it are sick.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"No pitty from me she was in control of her own life as we all are, you cannot help those who do not want to be helped.

been here before with someone who drank themself to death and it was not nice to see."

Did Amy do that ?? Obviously you are another one who has the results of a PM which hasn't yet been conducted ...

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By *ustyWoman over a year ago

inverclyde

sorry but it was all self inflicted drink and drugs what about the service men and women who die serving there queen and country thats not, what about the familes that have to live with there son or daughter being killed in action

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

I just think some of the comments on here are very cold.

Where is the empathy for a fellow human being who probably tried very hard on a number of occassions to get better but was too imbalanced to maintain that path ?

I for one cringe at some of the comments posted on here. It's so frustrating that we as a human race can be so cold towards one another.

Extremely well said!

I am not pointing fingers, but it has become quite clear to me that some are quick to jump down the throat of the poor girl lying dead on a cold slab tonight.

I've seen it first hand, someone battling a frightening addiction, it's horrendous. It's a battle that they sadly lost aged only a year older than poor Amy.

RIP to My Big Bro & Amy xxxxx"

As metaphors go, the idea that anyone is jumping down the throat of a poor dead girl is pretty atrocious.

Do you think it's callous of me to refuse to mourn Amy Winehouse? It doesn't mean I might not mourn your brother, and it certainly doesn't mean I don't empathize with you in your grief.

I'm just sick to my guts of this constant outpouring of synthetic grief over this celebrity or that one. I don't like living in Princess Diana's Britain, where people leave tacky poundshop trinkets by the side of the road to mark the spot where someone they never knew got stabbed by someone else in a row over drugs. It's the worst kind of emotional exhibitionism, and when it's allied to the kind of uncritical revisionism that makes a legend out of a pretty ordinary talent like Amy WInehouse I speak my mind.

But that doesn't mean I don't wish you didn't have to go through the loss of your brother...

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Addiction is a powerful thing .... there is nothing more to say than that. People who are making fun of her and saying she deserved it are sick."

Not doubting its not a powerful thing, but she started it knowing that she could become addicted

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"sorry but it was all self inflicted drink and drugs what about the service men and women who die serving there queen and country thats not, what about the familes that have to live with there son or daughter being killed in action"

Was it ???

When was the results of the PM released ??

Oh OK, you are another one jumping on the bandwagon and speculating huh ?

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By *irtyGirlWoman over a year ago

Edinburgh

She still has a family. And friends. And people who love her.

Compassion... look it up.

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By *ensual temptressWoman over a year ago

Southampton

im sorry but id not be taking any bet that the deaths from natural causes .

may seem to you people jumping to conclusions but she was a drug addict and logical thinking is that its drug related . if its not im sure people will be quite happy to retract any insinuation she died from drugs .

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Addiction is a powerful thing .... there is nothing more to say than that. People who are making fun of her and saying she deserved it are sick.

Not doubting its not a powerful thing, but she started it knowing that she could become addicted"

Someone said above, "cant believe some can be so cold", i cant either, what a daft clinical division of sympathy, if your clean you'll get sympathy, if your an addict of anything, you asked for it??

Anyone like the Rolling stones for example? Cause guess what.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I can't get why people are comparing the tragedy in Norway against the death of Amy Winehouse???

I have shown sympathy to both those brutally murdered and to Amy who died in unexplained cirumstances. My heart is big enough to care about them all xx

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

An interesting and eye opening thread, for all the wrong reasons though!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

well said we have lost both one to drink and a very nice family service man and guess who get my respect

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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ok calm down please before people end up banned.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"well said we have lost both one to drink and a very nice family service man and guess who get my respect"

You've lost me ... who gets the respect ??? (Just so we can be clear what this post means)

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By *waymanMan over a year ago

newcastle

"Addiction is a powerful thing .... there is nothing more to say than that. People who are making fun of her and saying she deserved it are sick.

Not doubting its not a powerful thing, but she started it knowing that she could become addicted

Someone said above, "cant believe some can be so cold", i cant either, what a daft clinical division of sympathy, if your clean you'll get sympathy, if your an addict of anything, you asked for it??

Anyone like the Rolling stones for example? Cause guess what.

DId anyone actually say that? Or are you over simplifying stuff to make your point and try and force us all to weep and wail in some public show of grief?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"ok calm down please before people end up banned."

If speaking your mind gets one banned ......

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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"ok calm down please before people end up banned.

If speaking your mind gets one banned ......

No.

But abusing people will.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Wondering where the abuse too place tbh ... ?

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By *ugby 123Couple over a year ago
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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

to you too

Looks like I'm pissing into the wind here...

Ok I love Amy - she's dead now

Shame, good talent gone to waste.

Nite Nite ... xxx

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

To get back to the OP

"What a waste of a talent"

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Yes - so true my good fellow

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By *ilandlarryCouple over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

"Addiction is a powerful thing .... there is nothing more to say than that. People who are making fun of her and saying she deserved it are sick.

Not doubting its not a powerful thing, but she started it knowing that she could become addicted

Someone said above, "cant believe some can be so cold", i cant either, what a daft clinical division of sympathy, if your clean you'll get sympathy, if your an addict of anything, you asked for it??

Anyone like the Rolling stones for example? Cause guess what.

DId anyone actually say that? Or are you over simplifying stuff to make your point and try and force us all to weep and wail in some public show of grief?"

no one is asking anyone too weep, wail and show grief but don't you think it's a little sad to be badmouthing the deceased? A little dignity isn't much to ask for, if you can't do that then things are maybe best left unsaid?

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By *acktilMan over a year ago

Tewkesbury

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

Facts ?

That is my opinion to which I think I am entitled ...."

Nearly everything in this thread is opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, the one fact is she is now dead. Game Over. An that's all folks.

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By *irtyGirlWoman over a year ago

Edinburgh

"She still has a family. And friends. And people who love her.

Compassion... look it up.

And again... also respect... a little respect for those who were fans. If you have nothing nice to say then the best bet is to say nothing at all.

Whilst we're all entitled to opinion, having a heart and a little respect for fellow human beings doesn't go amiss every now and again.

The woman is dead, let those who wish to grieve do so in peace and be grateful you've not just lost a friend or a loved one.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

Facts ?

That is my opinion to which I think I am entitled ....

Nearly everything in this thread is opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, the one fact is she is now dead. Game Over. An that's all folks.

A tragic loss of life!!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"She still has a family. And friends. And people who love her.

Compassion... look it up.

And again... also respect... a little respect for those who were fans. If you have nothing nice to say then the best bet is to say nothing at all.

Whilst we're all entitled to opinion, having a heart and a little respect for fellow human beings doesn't go amiss every now and again.

The woman is dead, let those who wish to grieve do so in peace and be grateful you've not just lost a friend or a loved one. "

I'll raise a glass to that ..

Oooops! I said goodnite 10 miutes ago. I'd better run and hide before I get banned for false representation

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By *acktilMan over a year ago

Tewkesbury

"So far as I'm concerned, she ranked amongst the greats, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holliday, Bessie Smith, Louis Armstrong .... the list goes on

Facts ?

That is my opinion to which I think I am entitled ....

Nearly everything in this thread is opinion, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However, the one fact is she is now dead. Game Over. An that's all folks.

A tragic loss of life!!"

I doubt the autopsy will say she died of natural causes. The real tragedy is the family she leaves behind.

He/She who dies with the most, still dies. Game Over. Sorry that's just the way it is. Choices and consequences!

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By *uckscouple2007Couple over a year ago

Bucks

that should put a few drug dealers in the camden area out of business

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By *acktilMan over a year ago

Tewkesbury

"that should put a few drug dealers in the camden area out of business"

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By *irtyGirlWoman over a year ago

Edinburgh

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By *acktilMan over a year ago

Tewkesbury

The local off license could be in for tough times too

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"that should put a few drug dealers in the camden area out of business"

I somehow doubt it as there is always people out there addicted to what they sell, but hey-ho eh?

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"The local off license could be in for tough times too

Why was she their only customer?

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Hmmm im quite shocked at some of the comments here too.

Is anyone on this forum a recovered heroin addict, if so then perhaps you could share the experience of getting clean and whether it was difficult and how you achieved it, or was it really easy to give up, perhaps as easy as giving up sugar in your tea. Perhaps those recovered addicts could enlighten us on their state of mind when they were pumping heroin through their veins? Are they capable of conscious thought? Were the only friends they had addicts too, were they constantly surrounded by addiction.

I have never taken drugs so I do not know. Maybe it really is easy to give up and Amy was just a stubborn bitch, deliberately hurting her family. Or maybe the only conscious thoughts in her head was when the next fix would come and she just wasnt strong enough. Whatever the real reason, Id like to think I have compassion for people who sometimes choose the wrong path and are not strong enough to help themselves.

I have a friend whose sister suffered from Anorexia. She was in a wheelchair and obviously in and out of hospital. She looked like a prisoner from Auschwitz. I was terrified to go round to my friends house as her sister frightened the shit out of me with the look of her. She was covered in hair, a natural reaction to keep the body warm as she had no fat. She was about 3 stone when she died.

Now her family went through hell, doing everything they could to make her eat, the only time she would was when she was in hospital. And all they could do was watch her organs shut down until she died, and they were powerless to stop it.

Can you all honestly say that with people who are in the throes of mental illness or addiction, that its their own fault they are that way, and as it is self inflicted they deserve to die.

Whatever the reasons, whether Amy was as talented as Billie Holiday or not, its a bloody shame that a young girl died.

And on this day of awful shocking news and tragedy, I cant really measure anyones death as being more important than others.

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By *umourCouple over a year ago

Rushden

I am just off to bake a very large humble pie! Not for me you understand, but for those who believe that Amy Winehouse's post mortem will say that she died "clean"!

As I said in an earlier post, it is so sad when celebrity is mourned more than 85 innocent kids on holiday and mown down!

I also notice that most of the people getting heated or "protecting" Winehouse haven't posted their sympathies on the Oslo thread! The tabloids have much to answer for!

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By *b430Man over a year ago

Tayside

"I am just off to bake a very large humble pie! Not for me you understand, but for those who believe that Amy Winehouse's post mortem will say that she died "clean"!

As I said in an earlier post, it is so sad when celebrity is mourned more than 85 innocent kids on holiday and mown down!

I also notice that most of the people getting heated or "protecting" Winehouse haven't posted their sympathies on the Oslo thread! The tabloids have much to answer for!

I don't think anyone is saying she should be mourned more than the victims in Oslo but she was still a human being and deserves a bit of respect, whether you liked the way she lived or not!

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By *ce WingerMan over a year ago

P.O. Box DE1 0NQ

"What a fucking waste!

Frank is as good a debut album as you will ever hear. Such a shame its been an incredibly steep down hill slope since then.

RIP

+ 1

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By *ikeC81Man over a year ago

harrow

Its sad she has died but fuck me the amount of drinks and drugs she took s it any wonder.......

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By *irtyGirlWoman over a year ago

Edinburgh

"I am just off to bake a very large humble pie! Not for me you understand, but for those who believe that Amy Winehouse's post mortem will say that she died "clean"!

As I said in an earlier post, it is so sad when celebrity is mourned more than 85 innocent kids on holiday and mown down!

I also notice that most of the people getting heated or "protecting" Winehouse haven't posted their sympathies on the Oslo thread! The tabloids have much to answer for!

I haven't posted my sympathy here. I've not posted on the Oslo thread either. I don't read the tabloids. I don't feel the need to judge other people for their choices in life whether it be for artists they were fans of or tragedies that happen in the world we live in. I feel the need for personal choice and privacy and not to be judged by people who make sweeping generalisations and judgemental remarks without facts.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"Are there anymore 'facts' that you have scrounged from 'Wiki' Wishy ??? ..."

I'm sure I could scrounge a couple, what's your poison?

... on this occasion though, look to the bbc website, it was all on there. Profile: Amy Winehouse, unless they've updated it.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I also notice that most of the people getting heated or "protecting" Winehouse haven't posted their sympathies on the Oslo thread! The tabloids have much to answer for!

I can only speak for myself. I wrote on this thread because I can offer thoughts on this. I am deeply shocked about the Oslo situation, im reading news stories on it and its so horrific its incomprehensible.

However I will not be judged on which thread I chose to post on first. I have a choice when I read the forums and I do what I want to do. I personally dont give a shit as to your interpretation of the timings of my posts. Dont make assumptions about me, or that I am only interested in celebrity and tabloids and am not capable of offering discussion on other topics on this forum!

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

another one for the 27 club

i was reading some news site and its was said her father had already written a eulogy for her funeral as he had a feeling she was going to died young

how bizzar is that

Very sad loss tho, such a waste of a life x

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By *stwoforfun2Couple over a year ago

South Suffolk Area

Only just heard this news by coming into the forums. What a sad loss and waste of a young life. We both loved her music. RIP Amy x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I'm just sick to my guts of this constant outpouring of synthetic grief over this celebrity or that one. I don't like living in Princess Diana's Britain, where people leave tacky poundshop trinkets by the side of the road to mark the spot where someone they never knew got stabbed by someone else in a row over drugs. It's the worst kind of emotional exhibitionism, and when it's allied to the kind of uncritical revisionism that makes a legend out of a pretty ordinary talent like Amy WInehouse I speak my mind.

But that doesn't mean I don't wish you didn't have to go through the loss of your brother..."

Like I say.... I don't point any fingers... you made the assumption you were one of them

Trouble is Awayman... If I started excluding people that made assumptions I was getting annoyed with then it'll narrow it down too much and I'll probably get accused of 'bullying' which isn't the case.

I'm strong enough to stand without wallowing in self pity about my brother... It was a long time ago... I just think tw***y comments like "she brought on herself" and "she knew what she was doing" show an awful lot of ignorance when it comes to showing what some folk know about addictions

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I also notice that most of the people getting heated or "protecting" Winehouse haven't posted their sympathies on the Oslo thread! The tabloids have much to answer for!

I don't read tabloids... I haven't done so for I'm guessing 7-8 years.

You don't read other posts I and others chose to write on other sites (social networking) so you can't really judge us as you can't see everything!

Not everyone chooses to write everything they think or of feel on here.

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By *iewMan over a year ago
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Angus & Findhorn

'will you still love me tomorrow'... a beautiful rendition of this song..

some will

some won't

some never loved you at all..

non the less, dying at 27 is always very sad.

thank you for your music, I loved it. x

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

I didn't know she had punched a female fan at one of her gigs. It was shown on one of the news channels just now, and it wasn't a single blow either, she repeatedly punched this fan several times with a look of pure hatred on her face.

I remember when Cantona launched into a fan and he was rightly condemned for it (and banned from football for 8 months).

What she did to a paying member of the audience was outragious and I don't think her 'troubled' mind can be used as a defence. My already low estimation of her has just dropped to a rating of 'really dont give a shit'.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

This thread seems to sum the forums up on here. It always seems to be the same people who post the opposite _iew to the majority, just to get a reaction.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

"I didn't know she had punched a female fan at one of her gigs. It was shown on one of the news channels just now, and it wasn't a single blow either, she repeatedly punched this fan several times with a look of pure hatred on her face.

I remember when Cantona launched into a fan and he was rightly condemned for it (and banned from football for 8 months).

The same could be said about your opinion.

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

RIP Amy

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

Loved Amy's music, a talent wasted, let's hope she is in a place of peace, her choices weren't always perfect, but who's are? RIP

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By (user no longer on site) over a year ago

maybe she should have gone to rehab , now she cant say no no no .

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