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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

The three people responsible were shouting 'This is for Allah'. Words fail me.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

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"The three people responsible were shouting 'This is for Allah'. Words fail me."

What does Allah mean ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

How do you know they shouted that ?

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull

It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull


"How do you know they shouted that ?"

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'"

Muslim isn't a language.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time "

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ......

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was there around 8 pm last night, just been so lucky.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Two different witnesses had said the same - that they said this is for allah.

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language. "

Ok, splitting hairs aside, it is in the Muslim faith, so their language follows suit.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed

Irony is that if Allah is real they have committed the biggest insult by assuming to speak for God whom I'm sure is big enough to speak for its self .

Its the height of arrogance to assume you know the mind of someone else.

So claiming to know the mind and wisdom of a supreme being is basically a huge error. If God wants people dead he/she they can do it for themselves.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language. "

Not yet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Irony is that if Allah is real they have committed the biggest insult by assuming to speak for God whom I'm sure is big enough to speak for its self .

Its the height of arrogance to assume you know the mind of someone else.

So claiming to know the mind and wisdom of a supreme being is basically a huge error. If God wants people dead he/she they can do it for themselves. "

Might be a part of the brain washing.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Ok, splitting hairs aside, it is in the Muslim faith, so their language follows suit."

Arabic-speakers of several faiths, including CHRISTIANS and JEWS, use the word "Allah"

It means God.

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull


"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ...... "

How do you know categorically the man had just cone from a pub?

The area was very busy, both on the bridge and in Borough Market with plenty of people out and about.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

We should...

Pray

Light a candle

Hold a vigil

Do a community march -break out into 'imagine' by John Lennon.

That'll stop em!

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet. "

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"We should...

Pray

Light a candle

Hold a vigil

Do a community march -break out into 'imagine' by John Lennon.

That'll stop em!

"

Oh now Chris.... tsk.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

bit like when we went lopping heads off in the crusades...history is littered with people doing stupid shit in the names of whoever. people are idiots.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"We should...

Pray

Light a candle

Hold a vigil

Do a community march -break out into 'imagine' by John Lennon.

That'll stop em!

"

You forgot "get a tattoo".

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ......

How do you know categorically the man had just cone from a pub?

The area was very busy, both on the bridge and in Borough Market with plenty of people out and about."

BOOM.. I don't do I. That's what he said tho.

So let me correct myself.

A man who SAID he had just come from a pub CLAIMED to have seen the attackers and SAID ( though it's not substantiated ) that 'they' were shouting , 'This is for Allah.' ....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Im proud of our met police this am.

Within 8 mins of the calls the 3 terrorists where shot dead.

That is something that needs celebrating.

Love 1 hate 0.

Yes people have died. Yes people are hurt. But last night we prevailed.

Don't be angry. Don't be scared.

Be proud!

PTU xxx

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

"

Muslims

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ......

How do you know categorically the man had just cone from a pub?

The area was very busy, both on the bridge and in Borough Market with plenty of people out and about."

there is a video interview of an eyewitness, one of many, stating they stabbed a girl over 10 times in front of others in the pub , shouting 'this is for allah'..no idea why you think someone would make that up when it could be easily contradicted by other witnesses..there will be hundreds of witness statements coming out as well as footage..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ...... "

I think that's a bit naive, and insulting to a guy who ran after the 3 losers trying to warn people. This after witnessing them stabbing a young woman 10-15 times in front of him.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

Muslims"

do you think islam is a nationality? do you think muslims speak muslim? seriously? i really don't think stupid remarks like that help right now

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ......

How do you know categorically the man had just cone from a pub?

The area was very busy, both on the bridge and in Borough Market with plenty of people out and about.

there is a video interview of an eyewitness, one of many, stating they stabbed a girl over 10 times in front of others in the pub , shouting 'this is for allah'..no idea why you think someone would make that up when it could be easily contradicted by other witnesses..there will be hundreds of witness statements coming out as well as footage.."

I haven't said anyone made it up.

That's your assumption

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

"

Let's draw a line here. The terrorists were quoted as saying what the said. They acted in their own way, spoke in their own way and mentioned the word Allah and why.

Let us not forget the victims, those who were killed, wounded and traumatised; not quibbling over a language and its use.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum

These people were mad-men, and they weren't speaking for Muslims. It's Ramadan; Muslims are in mosques, praying. They were with their families, eating and praying after a long day of fasting. We should remember that these people do not represent Muslims any more than the KKK represents all Christians.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed

Jes, conspiracy theorists out already. That has to be a record.

But no I am sure these 3 were doing it in the name of Ra the sun God as his extremists have been particularly active lately.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What they may or may not have said is insignificant when compared to their action

Those actions were not representative of the teaching of any religious faith .....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im proud of our met police this am.

Within 8 mins of the calls the 3 terrorists where shot dead.

That is something that needs celebrating.

Love 1 hate 0.

Yes people have died. Yes people are hurt. But last night we prevailed.

Don't be angry. Don't be scared.

Be proud!

PTU xxx"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"These people were mad-men, and they weren't speaking for Muslims. It's Ramadan; Muslims are in mosques, praying. They were with their families, eating and praying after a long day of fasting. We should remember that these people do not represent Muslims any more than the KKK represents all Christians."

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman  over a year ago
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My Own Little World


"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ......

How do you know categorically the man had just cone from a pub?

The area was very busy, both on the bridge and in Borough Market with plenty of people out and about.

there is a video interview of an eyewitness, one of many, stating they stabbed a girl over 10 times in front of others in the pub , shouting 'this is for allah'..no idea why you think someone would make that up when it could be easily contradicted by other witnesses..there will be hundreds of witness statements coming out as well as footage.."

There will probably be more 'eyewitnesses' then there were people who were actually there. Some like to big up their involvement in something, they were half a mile away but they saw and heard it all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Ok, splitting hairs aside, it is in the Muslim faith, so their language follows suit.

Arabic-speakers of several faiths, including CHRISTIANS and JEWS, use the word "Allah"

It means God.

"

So why ask what it means then? The guy saying he heard them say it sounds credible, he threw bottles and chairs at the attackers as they repeatedly stabbed a young girl and then followed them and guided police to their location, sounds like he was in a good position to hear what they were saying to me. Why try and defend the indefensible.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

Let's draw a line here. The terrorists were quoted as saying what the said. They acted in their own way, spoke in their own way and mentioned the word Allah and why.

Let us not forget the victims, those who were killed, wounded and traumatised; not quibbling over a language and its use."

Yes. Let's. Except incorrect use of language leads to assumption , hatred and incorrect accusations.

I'd prefer to focus on the injured and dead instead of attacking fucking mist.

The bottom line is that we don't know yet who did what.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

Let's draw a line here. The terrorists were quoted as saying what the said. They acted in their own way, spoke in their own way and mentioned the word Allah and why.

Let us not forget the victims, those who were killed, wounded and traumatised; not quibbling over a language and its use."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So many opinions, so little thought.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

Let's draw a line here. The terrorists were quoted as saying what the said. They acted in their own way, spoke in their own way and mentioned the word Allah and why.

Let us not forget the victims, those who were killed, wounded and traumatised; not quibbling over a language and its use.

"

I'd choose logic and truth over sentiment any day.

Keeps us as one and that keeps us safer.

There's a lot of attempt to divide and point fingers on this thread.

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By *he Queen of TartsWoman  over a year ago
Forum Mod

My Own Little World


"These people were mad-men, and they weren't speaking for Muslims. It's Ramadan; Muslims are in mosques, praying. They were with their families, eating and praying after a long day of fasting. We should remember that these people do not represent Muslims any more than the KKK represents all Christians."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"These people were mad-men, and they weren't speaking for Muslims. It's Ramadan; Muslims are in mosques, praying. They were with their families, eating and praying after a long day of fasting. We should remember that these people do not represent Muslims any more than the KKK represents all Christians."

this..

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Ok, splitting hairs aside, it is in the Muslim faith, so their language follows suit.

Arabic-speakers of several faiths, including CHRISTIANS and JEWS, use the word "Allah"

It means God.

So why ask what it means then? The guy saying he heard them say it sounds credible, he threw bottles and chairs at the attackers as they repeatedly stabbed a young girl and then followed them and guided police to their location, sounds like he was in a good position to hear what they were saying to me. Why try and defend the indefensible. "

I haven't tried to defend anything.

I asked what Allah means.

Do try to accuse me only of what I have done.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We should...

Pray

Light a candle

Hold a vigil

Do a community march -break out into 'imagine' by John Lennon.

That'll stop em!

Oh now Chris.... tsk. "

What...?

It's the wrong song isn't it

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By *ENGUYMan  over a year ago

Hull


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

Let's draw a line here. The terrorists were quoted as saying what the said. They acted in their own way, spoke in their own way and mentioned the word Allah and why.

Let us not forget the victims, those who were killed, wounded and traumatised; not quibbling over a language and its use.

Yes. Let's. Except incorrect use of language leads to assumption , hatred and incorrect accusations.

I'd prefer to focus on the injured and dead instead of attacking fucking mist.

The bottom line is that we don't know yet who did what. "

The bottom line is that people did hear what WAS said and who witnessed directly!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Not yet.

So we are all going to speak Muslim ? Even tho there is no such language.

Who is going to create this language ?

Let's draw a line here. The terrorists were quoted as saying what the said. They acted in their own way, spoke in their own way and mentioned the word Allah and why.

Let us not forget the victims, those who were killed, wounded and traumatised; not quibbling over a language and its use.

Yes. Let's. Except incorrect use of language leads to assumption , hatred and incorrect accusations.

I'd prefer to focus on the injured and dead instead of attacking fucking mist.

The bottom line is that we don't know yet who did what.

The bottom line is that people did hear what WAS said and who witnessed directly!"

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader "

Learn something other than phrases and platitudes....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader "

Personally, I think Granny Crumpet is challenging people to be moderated in their flinging around of info and remind people that not escalating information is important (if not as thrilling for those wanting to voice their outrage, and I am as outraged by the attack) -- there is nothing she has posted that has not demonstrated having her eyes open, she also has her brain switched on and is thinking before speaking.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader "

Oh, the irony! If Granny was trying to be a crusader, historically she'd be trying to wipe out Islam. You might want to think before you choose your insults; we're SJW Libtard Islam apologists.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

He was democratically elected by all Londoners.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader "

History not your strong point then..?

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By *.Watford-AmericanMan  over a year ago

St Albans / Bournemouth

Was forunate yesterday that i went back when i did i was around that area about 20 minute before the attack occured

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's all good, Donald Trump has just tweeted he's on our side, terrorists be afraid be very afraid.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader

History not your strong point then..? "

That is the most unintentionally funny post on here.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It is political correctness gone mad, we all knew who it was.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought. "

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks "

I think granny is just being devil's advocate.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is political correctness gone mad, we all knew who it was. "

what is political correctness in this thread?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader

History not your strong point then..?

That is the most unintentionally funny post on here."

made me chuckle..

Granny on her charger trotting across the desert..

saddle bags all a bulging..

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks "

agreed but thankfully they are often in the minority..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks "

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

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By *orwegian BlueMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..

So in the cold light of day, we know the three Muslim men drove a van at speed into innocent people walking across London bridge, they then went on to stab a number of people who were out enjoying the nice evening..

It is likely the men came from East London when they headed into London and witnesses have stated they shouted "this is for Allah" or similar..

No one has said they had an accent, so I assume they are local to London...

So what next?

Do we end up with vigilante gangs roaming the streets of of our cities?

Will the latest incarnation of the black shirts be walking to parliament with banners "we told you so"?

Will Enoch Powell's speech, "rivers of blood " be broadcast as a call to battle?

I fear for the fallout of this latest event... The insidious rise of radicalisation of the youth, not just those of the Muslim faith, but non-Muslim, those that have never had an interest in any faith in their past, goes to show the level of mentality of these sick individuals..

Perhaps they do suffer with a psychological problem that predisposes them to be an easy target for radicalisation..

So how do we stop radicalisation in the first place?

There in lies the million dollar question, but one starting point is social media.. the suppliers, google, WhatsApp,etc. have a moral responsibility to assist the security services..

WhatsApp has a level of inscription that makes it almost impossible to penetrate... Why????

I have no problem with the security services listening or reading what I put online, but then I am not planning on doing anything illegal..

The truth is we shouldn't be afraid of being watched by "big brother"

"what about my civil liberties! " I hear you cry....Well, what about the civil liberties of those that dies last night, surely they outweigh the liberty to a private conversation about your hemerroids or what you are having for dinner...

I'm now going to step off my soap box.. I thank you for listening..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ignorance is bliss.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness. "

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You can always rely on the lounge to provide a spot of irrationally inspired competitive outrage .....

I'd be embarrassed to even think some of the comments certain people are willing to openly express.....

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"So in the cold light of day, we know the three Muslim men drove a van at speed into innocent people walking across London bridge, they then went on to stab a number of people who were out enjoying the nice evening..

It is likely the men came from East London when they headed into London and witnesses have stated they shouted "this is for Allah" or similar..

No one has said they had an accent, so I assume they are local to London...

So what next?

Do we end up with vigilante gangs roaming the streets of of our cities?

Will the latest incarnation of the black shirts be walking to parliament with banners "we told you so"?

Will Enoch Powell's speech, "rivers of blood " be broadcast as a call to battle?

I fear for the fallout of this latest event... The insidious rise of radicalisation of the youth, not just those of the Muslim faith, but non-Muslim, those that have never had an interest in any faith in their past, goes to show the level of mentality of these sick individuals..

Perhaps they do suffer with a psychological problem that predisposes them to be an easy target for radicalisation..

So how do we stop radicalisation in the first place?

There in lies the million dollar question, but one starting point is social media.. the suppliers, google, WhatsApp,etc. have a moral responsibility to assist the security services..

WhatsApp has a level of inscription that makes it almost impossible to penetrate... Why????

I have no problem with the security services listening or reading what I put online, but then I am not planning on doing anything illegal..

The truth is we shouldn't be afraid of being watched by "big brother"

"what about my civil liberties! " I hear you cry....Well, what about the civil liberties of those that dies last night, surely they outweigh the liberty to a private conversation about your hemerroids or what you are having for dinner...

I'm now going to step off my soap box.. I thank you for listening.. "

Has it been established, beyond any doubt AND reported by a 'trustworthy' (if there are any left) source that the three attackers shot this morning were Muslim ?

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc. "

You playing troll for this one then?

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By *rrol.BMan  over a year ago

Wrexham


"WhatsApp has a level of encryption that makes it almost impossible to penetrate... Why???"

Because encryption that can be penetrated isn't encryption.

In general I've agreed with your posts before. This though, this is short-sighted at best.

Are you really calling for government backdoors into encryption technologies?

You can't think of a single scenario wherein you would like to keep your private information private?

Or a single case of someone in power abusing their power?

What happened in London is terrible but undermining all our security technologies is far, far worse.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc. "

Stop out D.A.ing me.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"How do you know they shouted that ?

It was being said, according to witnesses at the time

I saw it on the B.B.C.

Was he a reliable witness ? That man who had come from a pub ?

When exactly did he see or hear them ? I found that bit difficult to comprehend.

So can we just leave it as 'some bloke said they were shouting Allah' ......

How do you know categorically the man had just cone from a pub?

The area was very busy, both on the bridge and in Borough Market with plenty of people out and about.

BOOM.. I don't do I. That's what he said tho.

So let me correct myself.

A man who SAID he had just come from a pub CLAIMED to have seen the attackers and SAID ( though it's not substantiated ) that 'they' were shouting , 'This is for Allah.' .... "

No one mentioned a pub until you

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc.

You playing troll for this one then? "

Do i ever play anything but?

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By *orwegian BlueMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness. "

Hate fuelled or anger fuelled..

I would say it's the latter and we prefer to call it outrage...

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By *haverMan  over a year ago

bracknell


"Irony is that if Allah is real they have committed the biggest insult by assuming to speak for God whom I'm sure is big enough to speak for its self .

Its the height of arrogance to assume you know the mind of someone else.

Well said

So claiming to know the mind and wisdom of a supreme being is basically a huge error. If God wants people dead he/she they can do it for themselves. "

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

Blessed are the cheese makers!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc. "

I know you well enough Clem to know you are joking. However, given the level of idiocy of some posters I'd ask that you don't confuse them and have them think I disagree with Granny Crumpet and not them. I'm not sure they'd be able to comprehend sarcasm.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I think granny is just being devil's advocate."

I wasn't referring to granny's posts

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc.

Stop out D.A.ing me."

It's a compulsion.

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By *yrdwomanWoman  over a year ago

Putting the 'cum' in Eboracum


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc.

You playing troll for this one then?

Do i ever play anything but?"

True.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I think granny is just being devil's advocate.

I wasn't referring to granny's posts"

dance puppet....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Hate fuelled or anger fuelled..

I would say it's the latter and we prefer to call it outrage... "

I'm sorry -- we? You also believe all Muslims are evil BN? You disappoint me.

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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"These people were mad-men, and they weren't speaking for Muslims. It's Ramadan; Muslims are in mosques, praying. They were with their families, eating and praying after a long day of fasting. We should remember that these people do not represent Muslims any more than the KKK represents all Christians."

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By *icked_tongueMan  over a year ago

Bolton

Can anyone please tell me of any religion that advocates murdering innocent people? None that I know of but happy to be told otherwise.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness. "

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your post... surely everyone has an opinion and they should be allowed to voice and debate it.

Some opinions are base and insulting but you lower yourself insulting their opinion.

Better to make salient points that undermine their arguement and move on.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc.

I know you well enough Clem to know you are joking. However, given the level of idiocy of some posters I'd ask that you don't confuse them and have them think I disagree with Granny Crumpet and not them. I'm not sure they'd be able to comprehend sarcasm."

I'm on the loo.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Can anyone please tell me of any religion that advocates murdering innocent people? None that I know of but happy to be told otherwise."

It really rather depends on what the nut job considers to be innocent doesn't it....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We should...

Pray

Light a candle

Hold a vigil

Do a community march -break out into 'imagine' by John Lennon.

That'll stop em!

"

Ha ha yeah

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I think the British population is fucked in the head anyway. People seem more concerned with virtue signalling than expressing any genuine concern for the situation we no find ourselves in. Its a form of narcissism where people are so gakked up on the steady diet of indoctrination that they cant even see straight. Terrorism? Nah let me remind people of how much of a "good" white person I am by telling people how terrible it is to have any kind of genuine concern about radical elements of a religion which refuses to integrate with western society.

And thats where the fallout of this stuff really happens. Its not in the grand plots like this but in everyday life. Increasingly segregated communities and the lack of cohesion.

At this point things deserve to get ugly.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your post... surely everyone has an opinion and they should be allowed to voice and debate it.

Some opinions are base and insulting but you lower yourself insulting their opinion.

Better to make salient points that undermine their arguement and move on.

"

Well, I think you've kind of undermined your own point. I've not said they can't post, have I? I've simply stated, clearly, my opinion. Or are you suggesting that I'm not allowed to? And I'm entitled to decide if I'd like to express that in terms of a discussion or a statement. Today I chose a statement. Thank you for expressing your opinion. Excuse me if I choose to ignore the perhaps unintended condescension of it.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"I think the British population is fucked in the head anyway. People seem more concerned with virtue signalling than expressing any genuine concern for the situation we no find ourselves in. Its a form of narcissism where people are so gakked up on the steady diet of indoctrination that they cant even see straight. Terrorism? Nah let me remind people of how much of a "good" white person I am by telling people how terrible it is to have any kind of genuine concern about radical elements of a religion which refuses to integrate with western society.

And thats where the fallout of this stuff really happens. Its not in the grand plots like this but in everyday life. Increasingly segregated communities and the lack of cohesion.

At this point things deserve to get ugly."

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
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Ok posts have been removed, if you quoted those posts they will have gone too.

Please tone your posts down before actually sending them please

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I think the British population is fucked in the head anyway. People seem more concerned with virtue signalling than expressing any genuine concern for the situation we no find ourselves in. Its a form of narcissism where people are so gakked up on the steady diet of indoctrination that they cant even see straight. Terrorism? Nah let me remind people of how much of a "good" white person I am by telling people how terrible it is to have any kind of genuine concern about radical elements of a religion which refuses to integrate with western society.

And thats where the fallout of this stuff really happens. Its not in the grand plots like this but in everyday life. Increasingly segregated communities and the lack of cohesion.

At this point things deserve to get ugly."

There's truth in that. And in expressing outrage, whichever way your outrage lies. Doesn't mean everyone has to agree though. You're conforming to your own version of virtue signalling.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Can anyone please tell me of any religion that advocates murdering innocent people? None that I know of but happy to be told otherwise.

It really rather depends on what the nut job considers to be innocent doesn't it...."

this..

pretty sure it does not mention abortion clinic in either of the old or new testaments..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

As i said above, i believe granny is simply playing devil's advocate, there's no need to call her small minded etc.

I know you well enough Clem to know you are joking. However, given the level of idiocy of some posters I'd ask that you don't confuse them and have them think I disagree with Granny Crumpet and not them. I'm not sure they'd be able to comprehend sarcasm.

I'm using the facilities in the cloakroom."

sorry Rugby! I fixed it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

To me it's a bloody shame that a thread goes like this....especially when people have lost loved ones in this....I know it's a open forum that anyone can post but please! let's think about the victims in this who are in hospital fighting for their lives!

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


" Blessed are the cheese makers!"

As a non regular poster on the forums, can I just say that you come across as one of the most obnoxious, David Brent-esque, petty little small men I've had the misfortune to read. Right from your differention of the IRA from Islamic radicals because they "fought for a free ireland" to this - your latest lame attempt at humour.

I guess you're well known here on the forums and have a retinue of arse licking accolytes following your every word, but I just wanted to reiterate that in my opinion you're the type of asshole everyone avoids in the pub.

Have a good day xx

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


" Blessed are the cheese makers!

As a non regular poster on the forums, can I just say that you come across as one of the most obnoxious, David Brent-esque, petty little small men I've had the misfortune to read. Right from your differention of the IRA from Islamic radicals because they "fought for a free ireland" to this - your latest lame attempt at humour.

I guess you're well known here on the forums and have a retinue of arse licking accolytes following your every word, but I just wanted to reiterate that in my opinion you're the type of asshole everyone avoids in the pub.

Have a good day xx"

Your mum liked me.

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By *-4pleasureCouple  over a year ago

Belfast


" Blessed are the cheese makers!

As a non regular poster on the forums, can I just say that you come across as one of the most obnoxious, David Brent-esque, petty little small men I've had the misfortune to read. Right from your differention of the IRA from Islamic radicals because they "fought for a free ireland" to this - your latest lame attempt at humour.

I guess you're well known here on the forums and have a retinue of arse licking accolytes following your every word, but I just wanted to reiterate that in my opinion you're the type of asshole everyone avoids in the pub.

Have a good day xx

Your mum liked me. "

She had a thing for little men

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury

Anyone see the match?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My heart goes out to all the families who lost loved ones and RIP to those directly effected by this horrible and barbaric act may the ones behind it and the ones who caused never find any peace in this life or the next.

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By *orwegian BlueMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Hate fuelled or anger fuelled..

I would say it's the latter and we prefer to call it outrage...

I'm sorry -- we? You also believe all Muslims are evil BN? You disappoint me. "

No, I believe that certain humans are evil and I have bore witness to that when I served in the forces.

I also believe that the Muslim community does very little to prevent the radicalisation, they are ashamed of it and hide it, very similar to the way the Catholic Church hid the sick acts of some priests...

I am also disappointed that in the streets of Bow and mile end, posters are pasted to windows of empty shops with the slogan "Britain needs Shariah law" and "let's make Britain Muslim"...

Really... is this acceptable? I don't see any people defacing these posters, I don't see any signs in the food shops around the east London Mosque, serving the faithful as they leave prayer stating anything close to "not in the name of my god" or "radicalisation is wrong.. Report it"...

Perhaps it's too late to be ashamed about the radical clerics that are freely allowed to preach hatred.. Those that post sickening videos of innocent people having their throats cut..

It's a problem that can only be resolved from within the Muslim community and I'm sorry, but I just do mot see enough action from that community denouncing these acts of terror against innocent people..

It's time for the leaders of the Muslim religion across the world, to stand united and say enough is enough.. Not in the name of my god....

But they won't..

They can't even decide between themselves which version of the religioun is correct and so resort to violence to resolve that argument..

I'm sorry if I sound jaded, but religion is rubbish, there is no supreme being.. it's just a belief that you should use as an example of how to lead a peaceful life...

It's not worth dieing for and it definitely doesn't require acts of murder..

We all know the crusades were wrong but that was almost a thousand years ago that started.. Let's not end up back there because I would never take up arms in the name of religion, and nor should anyone else..

The sad fact is that you give a man a reason to fight and he will...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your post... surely everyone has an opinion and they should be allowed to voice and debate it.

Some opinions are base and insulting but you lower yourself insulting their opinion.

Better to make salient points that undermine their arguement and move on.

Well, I think you've kind of undermined your own point. I've not said they can't post, have I? I've simply stated, clearly, my opinion. Or are you suggesting that I'm not allowed to? And I'm entitled to decide if I'd like to express that in terms of a discussion or a statement. Today I chose a statement. Thank you for expressing your opinion. Excuse me if I choose to ignore the perhaps unintended condescension of it. "

Slow your roll... am simply saying you views are as small minded to them as theirs are to you. Am just saying you undermine your position when you insult people that degenerates the debate... it's not personal.

But you seem really aggressive in your approach and your looking for fight. Ive not said you cant post... actually the opposite. But your looking admonishment (in my post) that isn't there.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound

So much horrible behaviour following an heinous incident.

Then there's the profiteering by the likes of Uber, hiking their fares as Black Cabs were giving those affected a free journey to get them to safety and home.

I despair that it is the disunity, shown here and elsewhere, that is the success if terrorists and terrorism.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Hate fuelled or anger fuelled..

I would say it's the latter and we prefer to call it outrage...

I'm sorry -- we? You also believe all Muslims are evil BN? You disappoint me.

No, I believe that certain humans are evil and I have bore witness to that when I served in the forces.

I also believe that the Muslim community does very little to prevent the radicalisation, they are ashamed of it and hide it, very similar to the way the Catholic Church hid the sick acts of some priests...

I am also disappointed that in the streets of Bow and mile end, posters are pasted to windows of empty shops with the slogan "Britain needs Shariah law" and "let's make Britain Muslim"...

Really... is this acceptable? I don't see any people defacing these posters, I don't see any signs in the food shops around the east London Mosque, serving the faithful as they leave prayer stating anything close to "not in the name of my god" or "radicalisation is wrong.. Report it"...

Perhaps it's too late to be ashamed about the radical clerics that are freely allowed to preach hatred.. Those that post sickening videos of innocent people having their throats cut..

It's a problem that can only be resolved from within the Muslim community and I'm sorry, but I just do mot see enough action from that community denouncing these acts of terror against innocent people..

It's time for the leaders of the Muslim religion across the world, to stand united and say enough is enough.. Not in the name of my god....

But they won't..

They can't even decide between themselves which version of the religioun is correct and so resort to violence to resolve that argument..

I'm sorry if I sound jaded, but religion is rubbish, there is no supreme being.. it's just a belief that you should use as an example of how to lead a peaceful life...

It's not worth dieing for and it definitely doesn't require acts of murder..

We all know the crusades were wrong but that was almost a thousand years ago that started.. Let's not end up back there because I would never take up arms in the name of religion, and nor should anyone else..

The sad fact is that you give a man a reason to fight and he will..."

Hmmmm. I stand by my post. And my choice of wording, thanks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your post... surely everyone has an opinion and they should be allowed to voice and debate it.

Some opinions are base and insulting but you lower yourself insulting their opinion.

Better to make salient points that undermine their arguement and move on.

Well, I think you've kind of undermined your own point. I've not said they can't post, have I? I've simply stated, clearly, my opinion. Or are you suggesting that I'm not allowed to? And I'm entitled to decide if I'd like to express that in terms of a discussion or a statement. Today I chose a statement. Thank you for expressing your opinion. Excuse me if I choose to ignore the perhaps unintended condescension of it.

Slow your roll... am simply saying you views are as small minded to them as theirs are to you. Am just saying you undermine your position when you insult people that degenerates the debate... it's not personal.

But you seem really aggressive in your approach and your looking for fight. Ive not said you cant post... actually the opposite. But your looking admonishment (in my post) that isn't there. "

Again, you're perhaps assuming and thus putting emotion and intent into my post rather than asking me. I'm not feeling aggressive, or looking for a fight. I'm vehemently stating my opinion. I am not looking for admonishment in your post, I'm alerting you to the fact that it came across as condescending and I acknowledged that may not have been your intent, and you clarified now it was not -- thank you. It felt like it regardless, on the receiving end in the same way my post felt aggressive to you -- and I apologise if that was how you received it despite it not being my intent. And yes, my comment was not to those outraged at the attack and questioning how we solve the times we find ourselves in -- it's to those making the sweeping, inaccurate generalisations about an entire people -- the posts have been deleted, you may not be aware of that. I chose to make a statement of my view. They did too. You have made yours. But I refute the implication that I'm not aware of debate and how to, the statements posted and now deleted were not ones I wanted to debate -- I wanted to simply, and strongly, oppose them.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

...

some people just have no idea

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Thoughts to anyone affected by the incident, directly and indirectly.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

...

Just because you are or are not surrounded my those of different faiths cultures and ethnicty it does not give you the right to n twattish at times like these.

We are all in the same country, therefore in some way affected.

If you have no idea what you are talking about then just keep quiet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just because you are or are not surrounded my those of different faiths cultures and ethnicty it does not give you the right to n twattish at times like these.

We are all in the same country, therefore in some way affected.

If you have no idea what you are talking about then just keep quiet

"

Actually it does. I would NEVER take the opinion of someone seriously if they go out of their way to ensure they're never around the minority groups or religions they love to claim they're "protecting".

What blows my mind is the sheer audacity and arrogance of those who like to preach their lefty mantra of nonsense. All while knowing they ensure they're as far away from the problem as they possibly can be.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just because you are or are not surrounded my those of different faiths cultures and ethnicty it does not give you the right to n twattish at times like these.

We are all in the same country, therefore in some way affected.

If you have no idea what you are talking about then just keep quiet

Actually it does. I would NEVER take the opinion of someone seriously if they go out of their way to ensure they're never around the minority groups or religions they love to claim they're "protecting".

What blows my mind is the sheer audacity and arrogance of those who like to preach their lefty mantra of nonsense. All while knowing they ensure they're as far away from the problem as they possibly can be. "

And you know my life well enough to make that accusation of me? You do realise that's an assumption, don't you? That's why I'm disappointed in your postulating. I'm happy to discuss elements of points you make that have sense but not when your intent looks to be just to assume things and troll on that "evidence", it undermines you. It's a shame.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

Feeling concern for both those affected by the incident and for those affected from the increased Islamophobia that can arise from such incidents, is not mutually exclusive. "

Unfortunately this is far too complicated for some people to understand, apparently.

Someone says 'let's not turn on innocent Muslims' and they hear 'I love ISIS', or something.

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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"Just because you are or are not surrounded my those of different faiths cultures and ethnicty it does not give you the right to n twattish at times like these.

We are all in the same country, therefore in some way affected.

If you have no idea what you are talking about then just keep quiet

Actually it does. I would NEVER take the opinion of someone seriously if they go out of their way to ensure they're never around the minority groups or religions they love to claim they're "protecting".

What blows my mind is the sheer audacity and arrogance of those who like to preach their lefty mantra of nonsense. All while knowing they ensure they're as far away from the problem as they possibly can be. "

Sure. You know the personal background of anyone here that has an opposing view to yours

Right on

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By *ugby 123Couple  over a year ago
Forum Mod

O o O oo

Keep it civil people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your post... surely everyone has an opinion and they should be allowed to voice and debate it.

Some opinions are base and insulting but you lower yourself insulting their opinion.

Better to make salient points that undermine their arguement and move on.

Well, I think you've kind of undermined your own point. I've not said they can't post, have I? I've simply stated, clearly, my opinion. Or are you suggesting that I'm not allowed to? And I'm entitled to decide if I'd like to express that in terms of a discussion or a statement. Today I chose a statement. Thank you for expressing your opinion. Excuse me if I choose to ignore the perhaps unintended condescension of it.

Slow your roll... am simply saying you views are as small minded to them as theirs are to you. Am just saying you undermine your position when you insult people that degenerates the debate... it's not personal.

But you seem really aggressive in your approach and your looking for fight. Ive not said you cant post... actually the opposite. But your looking admonishment (in my post) that isn't there.

Again, you're perhaps assuming and thus putting emotion and intent into my post rather than asking me. I'm not feeling aggressive, or looking for a fight. I'm vehemently stating my opinion. I am not looking for admonishment in your post, I'm alerting you to the fact that it came across as condescending and I acknowledged that may not have been your intent, and you clarified now it was not -- thank you. It felt like it regardless, on the receiving end in the same way my post felt aggressive to you -- and I apologise if that was how you received it despite it not being my intent. And yes, my comment was not to those outraged at the attack and questioning how we solve the times we find ourselves in -- it's to those making the sweeping, inaccurate generalisations about an entire people -- the posts have been deleted, you may not be aware of that. I chose to make a statement of my view. They did too. You have made yours. But I refute the implication that I'm not aware of debate and how to, the statements posted and now deleted were not ones I wanted to debate -- I wanted to simply, and strongly, oppose them. "

I know hun. But i still believe you were being agressive and now condescending. But you know what it's ok your just passionate.

What is there to refute about the debate? You vehemently and strongly opposed someone, thats totally fine and laudable. However the insults are incendiary - but you know that.

Essentially, insults degenerate the debate.

Surely you agree?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Feeling concern for both those affected by the incident and for those affected from the increased Islamophobia that can arise from such incidents, is not mutually exclusive.

Unfortunately this is far too complicated for some people to understand, apparently.

Someone says 'let's not turn on innocent Muslims' and they hear 'I love ISIS', or something. "

I often think it's actually, sadly, someone wanting to just troll and cause upset at people by making sweeping statements or assumptions of others rather than even believing their own points, not always I'll warrant, but sometimes it's the "thrill" of having a to-fro with someone. But yes, the inability of some to not clarify if they don't understand someone's point, or the arrogance in assuming they do understand it, and jump to unintended conclusions is staggering too.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Keep it civil people"

Noted, thanks Rugby. Will do.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I have to go and eat quinoa and sip kambucha.

I'll never get to Waitrose at this rate.

xx Things to do xx

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By *iss.HoneyWoman  over a year ago

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"Keep it civil people"

Of course. My tongue is bleeding

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So many opinions, so little thought.

Sometimes the reactions to such atrocities sickens me as much as the people that carry out the attacks

I agree. The fact that some people take it to give them license to spout ignorant, hate-fuelled, reprehensible bullshit and actually get their kicks in doing so. Shame on them. Shame on the posters on this thread showing their small mindedness.

Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your post... surely everyone has an opinion and they should be allowed to voice and debate it.

Some opinions are base and insulting but you lower yourself insulting their opinion.

Better to make salient points that undermine their arguement and move on.

Well, I think you've kind of undermined your own point. I've not said they can't post, have I? I've simply stated, clearly, my opinion. Or are you suggesting that I'm not allowed to? And I'm entitled to decide if I'd like to express that in terms of a discussion or a statement. Today I chose a statement. Thank you for expressing your opinion. Excuse me if I choose to ignore the perhaps unintended condescension of it.

Slow your roll... am simply saying you views are as small minded to them as theirs are to you. Am just saying you undermine your position when you insult people that degenerates the debate... it's not personal.

But you seem really aggressive in your approach and your looking for fight. Ive not said you cant post... actually the opposite. But your looking admonishment (in my post) that isn't there.

Again, you're perhaps assuming and thus putting emotion and intent into my post rather than asking me. I'm not feeling aggressive, or looking for a fight. I'm vehemently stating my opinion. I am not looking for admonishment in your post, I'm alerting you to the fact that it came across as condescending and I acknowledged that may not have been your intent, and you clarified now it was not -- thank you. It felt like it regardless, on the receiving end in the same way my post felt aggressive to you -- and I apologise if that was how you received it despite it not being my intent. And yes, my comment was not to those outraged at the attack and questioning how we solve the times we find ourselves in -- it's to those making the sweeping, inaccurate generalisations about an entire people -- the posts have been deleted, you may not be aware of that. I chose to make a statement of my view. They did too. You have made yours. But I refute the implication that I'm not aware of debate and how to, the statements posted and now deleted were not ones I wanted to debate -- I wanted to simply, and strongly, oppose them.

I know hun. But i still believe you were being agressive and now condescending. But you know what it's ok your just passionate.

What is there to refute about the debate? You vehemently and strongly opposed someone, thats totally fine and laudable. However the insults are incendiary - but you know that.

Essentially, insults degenerate the debate.

Surely you agree? "

I'm not your hun. I think we can agree to disagree. I don't think you're following my point, and you're stating you think I'm lying about my intent. That's your prerogative, but saddens me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have to go and eat quinoa and sip kambucha.

I'll never get to Waitrose at this rate.

xx Things to do xx "

-- can you pick me up some wheatgerm and tofu?

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By *azzyxMan  over a year ago

Buckinghamshire


"These people were mad-men, and they weren't speaking for Muslims. It's Ramadan; Muslims are in mosques, praying. They were with their families, eating and praying after a long day of fasting. We should remember that these people do not represent Muslims any more than the KKK represents all Christians."

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By *ikeC81Man  over a year ago

harrow

Enough is enough

We know it's Islamic extreamists - our gloriously shit prime minister came out and said it.

Now I have Muslim friends from school and traveling and I know its not the majority of the Muslim faith

However the police and security services have to do more, but they need both money and people support, but also support from the community. They need to have the right to kill without having Ipc investigating

These 3 bastards I hope have died in the most painful way!!!!

I have a lot of left wing friends who have hardly said anything

But why should we not say fuck the terrorists, fuck their shit warped ideologies.

Rip for those that died, and I hope those innocents in hospital recover

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I am also disappointed that in the streets of Bow and mile end, posters are pasted to windows of empty shops with the slogan "Britain needs Shariah law" and "let's make Britain Muslim"..."
At least it is not as bad as it is in sweden yet, where there already is sharia law.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed

Let's face it they don't exactly recruit the brightest and the best.

They attract those with criminal records who have never made it big in the drugs trade.

People with mental illnesses and those with predispositions to sadistic or pedophilic tendencies. Ie those wanting child brides. Etc.

Muslim extremism is the last bastion for the hopeless and useless. Its not like they even need to study their religion.

Dealt drugs, fucked up yours and others lives. Go kill and shout Allah and get on the express train to God.

No need to repent and make amends for your previous errors.

Very simple and appealing message to those with little hope or little left to achieve in Life.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let's face it they don't exactly recruit the brightest and the best.

They attract those with criminal records who have never made it big in the drugs trade.

People with mental illnesses and those with predispositions to sadistic or pedophilic tendencies. Ie those wanting child brides. Etc.

Muslim extremism is the last bastion for the hopeless and useless. Its not like they even need to study their religion.

Dealt drugs, fucked up yours and others lives. Go kill and shout Allah and get on the express train to God.

No need to repent and make amends for your previous errors.

Very simple and appealing message to those with little hope or little left to achieve in Life."

I'm uncomfortable with the potential for an extrapolation of this post reading (and I'm certainly not saying it was your intent) that anyone with a mental health difficulty is one of the hopeless or useless, or that someone with a criminal conviction cannot turn their life around etc, so just gently countering anyone that might.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The questions which remain left unanswered is why? what makes these people behave in this manner?, surly these folk don't just wake up one morning with the notion that they're going to be a suicide terrorist and kill innocents along the way! I think what Teresa May said about terrorism breeding terrorism is exactly right, maybe we need to ask ourselves what is it we have done to others to bring this back on to our own doorstep.

The approach we have adopted in dealing with this is clearly not working instead of deterring these terrorists its bringing more out of the wood work.

Many of these terrorists have been reported to be educated individuals with everything to live for so what then makes them choose such barbarity over peaceful protest?

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By *angzMan  over a year ago

Manchester, London & sometimes Newcastle


"Let's face it they don't exactly recruit the brightest and the best.

They attract those with criminal records who have never made it big in the drugs trade.

People with mental illnesses and those with predispositions to sadistic or pedophilic tendencies. Ie those wanting child brides. Etc.

Muslim extremism is the last bastion for the hopeless and useless. Its not like they even need to study their religion.

Dealt drugs, fucked up yours and others lives. Go kill and shout Allah and get on the express train to God.

No need to repent and make amends for your previous errors.

Very simple and appealing message to those with little hope or little left to achieve in Life."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"These people were mad-men, and they weren't speaking for Muslims. It's Ramadan; Muslims are in mosques, praying. They were with their families, eating and praying after a long day of fasting. We should remember that these people do not represent Muslims any more than the KKK represents all Christians."

Preach.

Also a lot of people don't know. That even in their Islamic legislation, any sort of warfare is considered prohibited. So these assholes don't even know their own religion.

The other 50 people died in Iraq in suicide bomb attack. Dame in Kabul. All by these dumb asses who are killing innocent in the month which is most sacred to their religion.

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By *uckandbunnyCouple  over a year ago

In your bed


"Let's face it they don't exactly recruit the brightest and the best.

They attract those with criminal records who have never made it big in the drugs trade.

People with mental illnesses and those with predispositions to sadistic or pedophilic tendencies. Ie those wanting child brides. Etc.

Muslim extremism is the last bastion for the hopeless and useless. Its not like they even need to study their religion.

Dealt drugs, fucked up yours and others lives. Go kill and shout Allah and get on the express train to God.

No need to repent and make amends for your previous errors.

Very simple and appealing message to those with little hope or little left to achieve in Life.

I'm uncomfortable with the potential for an extrapolation of this post reading (and I'm certainly not saying it was your intent) that anyone with a mental health difficulty is one of the hopeless or useless, or that someone with a criminal conviction cannot turn their life around etc, so just gently countering anyone that might. "

Everyone can interpret as they see it. I have written what I have written

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Let's face it they don't exactly recruit the brightest and the best.

They attract those with criminal records who have never made it big in the drugs trade.

People with mental illnesses and those with predispositions to sadistic or pedophilic tendencies. Ie those wanting child brides. Etc.

Muslim extremism is the last bastion for the hopeless and useless. Its not like they even need to study their religion.

Dealt drugs, fucked up yours and others lives. Go kill and shout Allah and get on the express train to God.

No need to repent and make amends for your previous errors.

Very simple and appealing message to those with little hope or little left to achieve in Life.

I'm uncomfortable with the potential for an extrapolation of this post reading (and I'm certainly not saying it was your intent) that anyone with a mental health difficulty is one of the hopeless or useless, or that someone with a criminal conviction cannot turn their life around etc, so just gently countering anyone that might.

Everyone can interpret as they see it. I have written what I have written "

Not debating that. I did too

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Essentially, insults degenerate the debate.

Surely you agree?

I'm not your hun. I think we can agree to disagree. I don't think you're following my point, and you're stating you think I'm lying about my intent. That's your prerogative, but saddens me. "

The only sad thing is your inability to be progressive in your view. It's your way or the high way. It's unnecessarily polarising.

It's of note that your unable to acknowledge that fundamentally insults degenerate debate - because that would be admitting you failed in your debate. That saddens me.

But let's agree to disagree

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Essentially, insults degenerate the debate.

Surely you agree?

I'm not your hun. I think we can agree to disagree. I don't think you're following my point, and you're stating you think I'm lying about my intent. That's your prerogative, but saddens me.

The only sad thing is your inability to be progressive in your view. It's your way or the high way. It's unnecessarily polarising.

It's of note that your unable to acknowledge that fundamentally insults degenerate debate - because that would be admitting you failed in your debate. That saddens me.

But let's agree to disagree "

I didn't agree or disagree with it because it wasn't the discussion I was responding to, and not the intent of my original post. Not responding to a question is not providing an answer but you putting an answer in my mouth again by assumption is done as it suits your narrative and your inability perhaps of recognising my point. I can own my intent, my point and even where you misinterpret it if it has upset you. You cite a failure in debate, and again miss the point that my original post was not to debate, even when I clearly explained that to you. You're very confused. *shrugs*

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This shit is getting out of hand we need more arrests or something proactive before it leads such incidents

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This shit is getting out of hand we need more arrests or something proactive before it leads such incidents "

We need more passive aggressives lol

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

well... look like they were from east london...

i'm an eastender... i am too blame for the actions of my fellow eastenders...

please.... don't treat us eastenders all the same....

see what i did there by changing one word..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"well... look like they were from east london...

i'm an eastender... i am too blame for the actions of my fellow eastenders...

please.... don't treat us eastenders all the same....

see what i did there by changing one word.. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I swear every time these attacks happen, and it's beginning to be quite often, you see the same threads and same arguments. Not just here but the rest of the Internet. It's like people are just used to it now and go into the same routine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Can i just say the more I read the comments on this thread, the more I'm attracted to a certain someone so feisty, quick comebacks & stands their ground!! Top marks.

Carry on as u were folks

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"well... look like they were from east london...

i'm an eastender... i am too blame for the actions of my fellow eastenders...

please.... don't treat us eastenders all the same....

see what i did there by changing one word.. "

no your not to blame not is the system or the parents or the religious leaders it's the people who have an agenda hiding behind a warped sense of believe and that there way is the way we should all think

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can i just say the more I read the comments on this thread, the more I'm attracted to a certain someone so feisty, quick comebacks & stands their ground!! Top marks.

Carry on as u were folks"

Ooooh who?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion. "

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can i just say the more I read the comments on this thread, the more I'm attracted to a certain someone so feisty, quick comebacks & stands their ground!! Top marks.

Carry on as u were folks"

Just to clarify

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl "

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

"

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

"

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

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By *ung hiMan  over a year ago

Northwest

Simple:

Blame the Government.

Look at world what is going on...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it. "

so u in a forgiving mood yet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it. "

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

"

I post epics because I am thus. I can be pithy too, and take the pith out of your own sanctimony. I own mine.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

I post epics because I am thus. I can be pithy too, and take the pith out of your own sanctimony. I own mine. "

No, you're more of a footnote.

An incorrectly referenced one...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

I post epics because I am thus. I can be pithy too, and take the pith out of your own sanctimony. I own mine.

No, you're more of a footnote.

An incorrectly referenced one...

"

Still flaming....

....incorrect on my initial point given you never saw the posts. The amusing point being you agreed with my sentiment (as per your first post) just keen to start an argument on the misinterpretation you've ascribed to my post. I'm beginning to wonder if there's some prior hurt there, Chris -- and then it dawned on me. It's much clearer now. I'm sorry I'd forgotten!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

I post epics because I am thus. I can be pithy too, and take the pith out of your own sanctimony. I own mine.

No, you're more of a footnote.

An incorrectly referenced one...

Still flaming....

....incorrect on my initial point given you never saw the posts. The amusing point being you agreed with my sentiment (as per your first post) just keen to start an argument on the misinterpretation you've ascribed to my post. I'm beginning to wonder if there's some prior hurt there, Chris -- and then it dawned on me. It's much clearer now. I'm sorry I'd forgotten! "

Pro tip: For prior hurt see...

"I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion."

Wanna talk about it hun?

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By *mcouple1Couple  over a year ago

nr warrington

Reading these posts whilst wearing my hemp sandles and it made me so annoyed I nearly spat out my fair trade vegan peace bean stew.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

I post epics because I am thus. I can be pithy too, and take the pith out of your own sanctimony. I own mine.

No, you're more of a footnote.

An incorrectly referenced one...

Still flaming....

....incorrect on my initial point given you never saw the posts. The amusing point being you agreed with my sentiment (as per your first post) just keen to start an argument on the misinterpretation you've ascribed to my post. I'm beginning to wonder if there's some prior hurt there, Chris -- and then it dawned on me. It's much clearer now. I'm sorry I'd forgotten!

Pro tip: For prior hurt see...

"I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion."

Wanna talk about it hun? "

That post you've just quoted wasn't addressed to you. It was to the other poster, who popped in after being upset with me and we've sorted that out. Unless you *did* feel emasculated too? Sorry I should have clarified who that post was too -- thought it was obvious but my mistake.

Nah, that's not what's just dawned on me -- I'm wondering if my failure to reply to you was an issue...I was interested in the Dutch study, just forgot to reply.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

Bit of a tangent but did anyone see the young couple interviewed about what they witnessed from their flat ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Reading these posts whilst wearing my hemp sandles and it made me so annoyed I nearly spat out my fair trade vegan peace bean stew. "

Those sandals scratch like crap.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bit of a tangent but did anyone see the young couple interviewed about what they witnessed from their flat ?"

No, not yet. What did they say they witnessed?

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross


"Bit of a tangent but did anyone see the young couple interviewed about what they witnessed from their flat ?

No, not yet. What did they say they witnessed? "

They saw much but that wouldn't be what I wanted to ask about. If you didn't see it I don't want to put words in your mouth.

I'll wait and see if anyone did.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Bit of a tangent but did anyone see the young couple interviewed about what they witnessed from their flat ?

No, not yet. What did they say they witnessed?

They saw much but that wouldn't be what I wanted to ask about. If you didn't see it I don't want to put words in your mouth.

I'll wait and see if anyone did."

I'll check it out now.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

It was someone using the word 'emasculate' that made me think of it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

I post epics because I am thus. I can be pithy too, and take the pith out of your own sanctimony. I own mine.

No, you're more of a footnote.

An incorrectly referenced one...

Still flaming....

....incorrect on my initial point given you never saw the posts. The amusing point being you agreed with my sentiment (as per your first post) just keen to start an argument on the misinterpretation you've ascribed to my post. I'm beginning to wonder if there's some prior hurt there, Chris -- and then it dawned on me. It's much clearer now. I'm sorry I'd forgotten!

Pro tip: For prior hurt see...

"I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion."

Wanna talk about it hun?

That post you've just quoted wasn't addressed to you. It was to the other poster, who popped in after being upset with me and we've sorted that out. Unless you *did* feel emasculated too? Sorry I should have clarified who that post was too -- thought it was obvious but my mistake.

Nah, that's not what's just dawned on me -- I'm wondering if my failure to reply to you was an issue...I was interested in the Dutch study, just forgot to reply. "

Heaven's no.

Thats you! Ah, I thought may be of interest, I still do.

But again, there we go looking for things that are just not there.

The assistance was real (dutch), the assistance here was real, the differing opinion was real. But you only see prejudice in it.

Ah well

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By *orwegian BlueMan  over a year ago

Iceland, but Aldi is closer..


"Bit of a tangent but did anyone see the young couple interviewed about what they witnessed from their flat ?"

What about them, other than the final comment about being told to leave the flat..

In hindsight, that was a good call on the part of the met as there could have been a bomb.

Other than that, a normal couple trying to comprehend the madness of last nights events.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It was someone using the word 'emasculate' that made me think of it."

The couple who end talking about the bomb robot and about a bang in the slug and lettuce? I'm not following your point, happy to be enlightened here or PM, if you wish or have time.

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By *ranny-CrumpetWoman  over a year ago

The Town by The Cross

I don't know which couple it was. I'll try to find out their names.

Nice couple. Bright couple.

He answered most of the questions and she looked at him like a kitten.

Each time she tried to answer a question he spoke loudly over her and finished her points. And she let him !

I watched in amazement.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"*sighs*

I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion.

Lol, don't apologise for that!

Try apologising for the insults you threw at people with opposing views. Or maybe for avoiding reasonable questions such as...

Do you agree insults cause debates to degenerate?

Alternatively, just keep posting until there are no dissenting (or otherwise) voices.

You go gurl

Oh Chris! Did you read the posts on the thread that were removed by the moderator?

No hun they were removed. That means you can't read them as they're removed x

Yes. But my point is (as I had said earlier) my post was in response to those posts -- the ones you've now clarified you've not seen -- you joined as they were being removed, I assumed (my mistake) you'd read them because you didn't clarify otherwise when I explained my post was distinctly in response to them. Not to debate, to make a statement in direct opposition to the posts made. The posts were reprehensible, which is why they've been removed.

If I choose to debate I would do so. I do often here. You're attacking my choice to make a statement opposing a statement that was not in debate. And attacking me without the full picture, for the sake of a point you want to make that I don't disagree with, wasn't making (as explained to you) and didn't have to respond to. I'm really sorry you've felt the need to ramble on in such a misinformed way. I'm also sorry you are t able to respect my preference for not being called hun, as mentioned earlier but then I suspect that's why you chose to use it.

Nooooo ones attacking you hun. Your cage got rattled, you decided to use abusive terms to people. I simply suggested that won't help a debate.

The fact you feel the need to post an epic for each response suggests you know this.

And yet you choose to ignore it. But rather spectacularly - instead you place yourself as the victim in the scene, it is frankly -

absurd.

Now, as a means to an end. And in the spirit of your initial - agree to disagree post (which you appear to of neglected)...

I suggest you go paint your dainty hooves and I'll bench press stuff and play with drills. That should temper us both - yes?

I post epics because I am thus. I can be pithy too, and take the pith out of your own sanctimony. I own mine.

No, you're more of a footnote.

An incorrectly referenced one...

Still flaming....

....incorrect on my initial point given you never saw the posts. The amusing point being you agreed with my sentiment (as per your first post) just keen to start an argument on the misinterpretation you've ascribed to my post. I'm beginning to wonder if there's some prior hurt there, Chris -- and then it dawned on me. It's much clearer now. I'm sorry I'd forgotten!

Pro tip: For prior hurt see...

"I apologise for emasculating anyone by having an opinion."

Wanna talk about it hun?

That post you've just quoted wasn't addressed to you. It was to the other poster, who popped in after being upset with me and we've sorted that out. Unless you *did* feel emasculated too? Sorry I should have clarified who that post was too -- thought it was obvious but my mistake.

Nah, that's not what's just dawned on me -- I'm wondering if my failure to reply to you was an issue...I was interested in the Dutch study, just forgot to reply.

Heaven's no.

Thats you! Ah, I thought may be of interest, I still do.

But again, there we go looking for things that are just not there.

The assistance was real (dutch), the assistance here was real, the differing opinion was real. But you only see prejudice in it.

Ah well "

But Chris I don't see prejudice, I was just clarifying what felt like a prejudging and a dismissal of my right to post. If that wasn't your intent, that's absolutely fine. If it was, that's fine too. I'm allowed to reply as much as I'm allowed to post a statement and not have to debate. You made your point in a way that disallows my point, or felt as if that was your intent, I don't disagree with you but agreeing with you doesn't negate my point either.

And again, I asked if it was the issue, I didn't assume -- you've clarified it was unrelated, I accept that!

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By *angzMan  over a year ago

Manchester, London & sometimes Newcastle


"well... look like they were from east london...

i'm an eastender... i am too blame for the actions of my fellow eastenders...

please.... don't treat us eastenders all the same....

see what i did there by changing one word.. "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't know which couple it was. I'll try to find out their names.

Nice couple. Bright couple.

He answered most of the questions and she looked at him like a kitten.

Each time she tried to answer a question he spoke loudly over her and finished her points. And she let him !

I watched in amazement.

"

Nods.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Granny crumpet... open ur fucking eyes and stop trying to be a crusader

Oh, the irony! If Granny was trying to be a crusader, historically she'd be trying to wipe out Islam. You might want to think before you choose your insults; we're SJW Libtard Islam apologists."

.

Your actually misinformed, the crusades were multi faceted but never about wiping out islam!.

A great deal of the fighting took place in Europe in places like Greece, Italy, Sicily, Spain.

What started out as a rescue of Byzantine empire ended up as a re take of the holy land of the Levant!.. You'll notice that was a recapture of the holy land not a take from Muslim hands!.

All this is irrelevant to almost everybody these days unless your a fucking whack job believer of course!.

The two main religions of the world are the main ones because they inspire theyre followers into jihad and holy war, its not a coincidence that these two have billions of followers?.

"We" in the West have managed to get past it, sadly the middle East, Africa and Asia hasn't for obvious reasons

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By *ung hiMan  over a year ago

Northwest

Questions & Answers for All of us ::::

Why this Happening. Think for minute.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It is Muslim for, ' the one and only God'

Muslim isn't a language.

Ok, splitting hairs aside, it is in the Muslim faith, so their language follows suit.

Arabic-speakers of several faiths, including CHRISTIANS and JEWS, use the word "Allah"

It means God.

So why ask what it means then? The guy saying he heard them say it sounds credible, he threw bottles and chairs at the attackers as they repeatedly stabbed a young girl and then followed them and guided police to their location, sounds like he was in a good position to hear what they were saying to me. Why try and defend the indefensible. "

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