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You can't help but admire the guy but he was a prick sometimes. He called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom". No need for that. Frazier was great. He preached hate towards whites. And he was a draft dodger. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. |
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"You can't help but admire the guy but he was a prick sometimes. He called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom". No need for that. Frazier was great. He preached hate towards whites. And he was a draft dodger. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you."
Yeah but that was in a different era when racism and homophobia were still good |
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By *oul BrothaMan
over a year ago
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"You can't help but admire the guy but he was a prick sometimes. He called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom". No need for that. Frazier was great. He preached hate towards whites. And he was a draft dodger. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you."
He apologised for his behaviour towards Fraiser, and yes, he over stepped the mark.
Draft dodger? Preached hatred, you're obviously talking from a position of ignorance. Go and read about the man first before posting nonsense. |
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly) |
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"Muhammad Ali was a good boxer... but cassius clay would of whooped his ass.
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Also am disgusted that someone as actually posted that Ali was a Muslim like it's a news flash.
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Over his lifetime the man said some bad things and said some good things , he wasn't afraid to challenge the unfairness of social conventions that blighted that era and didn't back away from those issue attempting to protect his status or popularity .....
His legacy as a man ultimately added value to the human race..... his legacy as sportsman is unique |
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"Muhammad Ali was a good boxer... but cassius clay would of whooped his ass.
Also am disgusted that someone as actually posted that Ali was a Muslim like it's a news flash.
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Dusgusted?! Really?! What an odd reaction.
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)"
He converted before being drafted to Vietnam.
He chose jail instead. He was no coward. I don't think anyone should attempt to undermine a man who said these words.......
My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me nigger, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rrape and kill my mother and father… Shoot them for what? …How can I shoot them poor people, just take me to jail. |
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"Fun fact, Mike Tyson is also Muslim .
They all get converted in prison, didn't you know"
Think you might find In the 80's it was cool for stars to say 'I'm a Muslim '.
Little did they know. |
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"Muhammad Ali was a good boxer... but cassius clay would of whooped his ass.
Also am disgusted that someone as actually posted that Ali was a Muslim like it's a news flash.
Dusgusted?! Really?! What an odd reaction.
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Not really. I would expand I really really would.
But I've been here before. So I'll leave it at he transcended his sport his race his political sphere.
You've missed the irony of the Cassius clay would whoop his ass comment.
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"Fun fact, Mike Tyson is also Muslim .
They all get converted in prison, didn't you know
Think you might find In the 80's it was cool for stars to say 'I'm a Muslim '.
Little did they know. "
It's still cool to be Muslim. |
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)"
Wrong |
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"Fun fact, Mike Tyson is also Muslim .
They all get converted in prison, didn't you know
Think you might find In the 80's it was cool for stars to say 'I'm a Muslim '.
Little did they know. "
Little did they know what? |
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)
Wrong "
You are right. |
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"Fun fact, Mike Tyson is also Muslim .
They all get converted in prison, didn't you know
Think you might find In the 80's it was cool for stars to say 'I'm a Muslim '.
Little did they know.
Little did they know what?"
Oh go on. Fill in the blanks. |
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"You can't help but admire the guy but he was a prick sometimes. He called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom". No need for that. Frazier was great. He preached hate towards whites. And he was a draft dodger. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you.
Yeah but that was in a different era when racism and homophobia were still good "
One black man calling another an Uncle Tom isn't racism in my eyes.
Could be taken to be quite the reverse. |
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)
He converted before being drafted to Vietnam.
He chose jail instead. He was no coward. I don't think anyone should attempt to undermine a man who said these words.......
My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me nigger, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rrape and kill my mother and father… Shoot them for what? …How can I shoot them poor people, just take me to jail."
Exactly
I'm not sure why refusing to fight in an utterly pointless war that you don't agree with is seen as cowardice? |
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"You can't help but admire the guy but he was a prick sometimes. He called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom". No need for that. Frazier was great. He preached hate towards whites. And he was a draft dodger. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you."
What do you mean when you say "bite the hand that feeds"? |
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)
He converted before being drafted to Vietnam.
He chose jail instead. He was no coward. I don't think anyone should attempt to undermine a man who said these words.......
My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me nigger, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rrape and kill my mother and father… Shoot them for what? …How can I shoot them poor people, just take me to jail." |
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"You can't help but admire the guy but he was a prick sometimes. He called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom". No need for that. Frazier was great. He preached hate towards whites. And he was a draft dodger. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you."
A comment by a very uneducated person. |
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"You can't help but admire the guy but he was a prick sometimes. He called Joe Frazier an "Uncle Tom". No need for that. Frazier was great. He preached hate towards whites. And he was a draft dodger. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you."
He did have the Mafia on his side. also backed by a lot of rich men. He had an advantage. Got a wallop then gets a glove cut to recover. After one of his fights he won didnt he get carried out on a stretcher!!!
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"Muhammad Ali was a good boxer... but cassius clay would of whooped his ass.
Also am disgusted that someone as actually posted that Ali was a Muslim like it's a news flash.
Dusgusted?! Really?! What an odd reaction.
Not really. I would expand I really really would.
But I've been here before. So I'll leave it at he transcended his sport his race his political sphere.
You've missed the irony of the Cassius clay would whoop his ass comment.
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I didn't. I just chose not to comment on that part |
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)
He converted before being drafted to Vietnam.
He chose jail instead. He was no coward. I don't think anyone should attempt to undermine a man who said these words.......
My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me nigger, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rrape and kill my mother and father… Shoot them for what? …How can I shoot them poor people, just take me to jail." .
Yep what a noble thing... Now get me that uncle Tom in the ring and let me beat this other black guy half to death for the sake of a small fortune from big powerful America!
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By *ost SockMan
over a year ago
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I saw Michael Parkinson do a live talk on him this week.
Parky clearly found him fascinating - genius sportsman, massive character, but also deeply flawed and capable of being a horrible guy.
That last interview they did in 1981 is a difficult watch. Unbelievable to think he boxed after that. |
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I didn't and still don't belive in a lot of what he stood for..but as a man and an athlete he will never be surpassed..his self belief and heart in the ring is stuff of legend. There will never be another Ali. |
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"I didn't and still don't belive in a lot of what he stood for..but as a man and an athlete he will never be surpassed..his self belief and heart in the ring is stuff of legend. There will never be another Ali. "
Tyson in his prime vrs Ali in his prime - iron Mike all the way |
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)
He converted before being drafted to Vietnam.
He chose jail instead. He was no coward. I don't think anyone should attempt to undermine a man who said these words.......
My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me nigger, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rrape and kill my mother and father… Shoot them for what? …How can I shoot them poor people, just take me to jail..
Yep what a noble thing... Now get me that uncle Tom in the ring and let me beat this other black guy half to death for the sake of a small fortune from big powerful America!
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Your comment suggests you've done little to alleviate your ignorance of the man
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"Aka muhammad ali .... he was muslim .... apparently .....
So the documentary led by frank skinner states this evening ... BBC1 ...
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He converted to Muslim so he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam (or Korea, can't remember exactly)
He converted before being drafted to Vietnam.
He chose jail instead. He was no coward. I don't think anyone should attempt to undermine a man who said these words.......
My conscience won’t let me go shoot my brother, or some darker people, or some poor hungry people in the mud for big powerful America. And shoot them for what? They never called me nigger, they never lynched me, they didn’t put no dogs on me, they didn’t rob me of my nationality, rrape and kill my mother and father… Shoot them for what? …How can I shoot them poor people, just take me to jail..
Yep what a noble thing... Now get me that uncle Tom in the ring and let me beat this other black guy half to death for the sake of a small fortune from big powerful America!
Your comment suggests you've done little to alleviate your ignorance of the man
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Like I said at the beginning, he was full of contradictions just like everybody? else, no better no worse |
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"I didn't and still don't belive in a lot of what he stood for..but as a man and an athlete he will never be surpassed..his self belief and heart in the ring is stuff of legend. There will never be another Ali.
Tyson in his prime vrs Ali in his prime - iron Mike all the way" .
Obviously, the drugs had improved no end by then |
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By *otgirl32Woman
over a year ago
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I'm no expert on the subject but someone above said Ali was a draft dodger. Quite an ignorant comment. He fundamentally disagreed with a war with people who had done nothing wrong to him or his country. He had the bollocks to stand up and say no. |
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"And in other news, the Pope has exclusively been discovered to be a Roman Catholic. "
AND FINALLY:
A bear was caught today shitting in the woods. Experts are said to be baffled.
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Were all in the cult of society,a society that holds a man who beat other men senseless for a king's ransom while society lauds him as the new Messiah.
As the old Messiah said when the seagulls follow the trawler it's because they hope sardines will be thrown into the sea |
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