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"I'm sorry mate, trust me I am no racist, I actually love people but fuck the extremists off of all religions" Agreed | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site!" Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. | |||
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"Continued from previous I know that police/security and other services can't possibly stop every incident - but where the f**k were intelligence services/anti terrorist organisations or whatever they are called to stop this before it happened?? isn't that what they are supposed to do? We know there is an increased threat, they should be extra vigilant surely?? You answered your own question. Do you know how many terrorist attacks have been prevented in this country? We havnt just been lucky up to now, there have been plenty foiled before they get past the planning stage, the problem is the unknown lone wolf attacks that are very difficult to prevent, why do people automatically put the blame on the security forces, blame the sick twisted bastards that carry them out. " Easier to pin it on something tangible and familiar most are mildly resentful of for one reason or another (the government)) than accept it was probably a British citizen who "passed" , slipped under the radar and capitalised on opportunism with deadly results. | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site!" Excuse me for having an opinion! I'm not political racist or sexist. I've just had enough of do gooders do not patronise me thank you or judge me by your standards | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here." No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? | |||
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"Continued from previous I know that police/security and other services can't possibly stop every incident - but where the f**k were intelligence services/anti terrorist organisations or whatever they are called to stop this before it happened?? isn't that what they are supposed to do? We know there is an increased threat, they should be extra vigilant surely?? You answered your own question. Do you know how many terrorist attacks have been prevented in this country? We havnt just been lucky up to now, there have been plenty foiled before they get past the planning stage, the problem is the unknown lone wolf attacks that are very difficult to prevent, why do people automatically put the blame on the security forces, blame the sick twisted bastards that carry them out. Easier to pin it on something tangible and familiar most are mildly resentful of for one reason or another (the government)) than accept it was probably a British citizen who "passed" , slipped under the radar and capitalised on opportunism with deadly results. " But lets be honest the probability is slim, | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me for having an opinion! I'm not political racist or sexist. I've just had enough of do gooders do not patronise me thank you or judge me by your standards" At least I HAVE standards. | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me for having an opinion! I'm not political racist or sexist. I've just had enough of do gooders do not patronise me thank you or judge me by your standards" . All I'm saying is you don't have the right to control the narrative. You have no right to tell anyone to just stop it. Sorry but you just don't | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate?" I've not said anything racist. Quite the opposite | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site!" Ehhh.... I think people should be allowed to vent. There is a real and present threat with islamism and yet people like you seem to be more concerned about how "righteous" they can look by virtue signalling and extolling what wonderful people they are for "calling out" racism and xenophobia. Its created this weird docile stupor in which I see a genuine lack of real anger at the fact that terrorists are attacking events full of tweens. And thats the point, a terrorist attack just blew up 19 children and you're sitting here crying about people's feelings getting hurt because people are angry at said situation. Grow up. | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? I've not said anything racist. Quite the opposite " I didn't say you specifically had? | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? I've not said anything racist. Quite the opposite I didn't say you specifically had?" No but you basically told everyone to shut up. Lol. Get real | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate?" You are obviously a sweet heart, but these people are evil- this IS political- Freedom of speech is our RIGHT - I agree this doesn't help the bereaved but these are our children who have died! | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? You are obviously a sweet heart, but these people are evil- this IS political- Freedom of speech is our RIGHT - I agree this doesn't help the bereaved but these are our children who have died! " | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing " *reading not ready | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing " No one is being forced to take part. And no one controls my narrative. Sorry but I disagree | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Ehhh.... I think people should be allowed to vent. There is a real and present threat with islamism and yet people like you seem to be more concerned about how "righteous" they can look by virtue signalling and extolling what wonderful people they are for "calling out" racism and xenophobia. Its created this weird docile stupor in which I see a genuine lack of real anger at the fact that terrorists are attacking events full of tweens. And thats the point, a terrorist attack just blew up 19 children and you're sitting here crying about people's feelings getting hurt because people are angry at said situation. Grow up." And what are 'people like me'? You assume you know anything about me and you obviously don't- I am as angry as anyone else at the thought of people wantonly killing innocents for literally no reason, but yet another thread on Fab lambasting certain races or religions isn't exactly going to help anyone is it. As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing " I only started it again to respond to the last post of the previous thread, which I did. I didn't invite the racists etc, what other people post is beyond my control I'm afraid. | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Ehhh.... I think people should be allowed to vent. There is a real and present threat with islamism and yet people like you seem to be more concerned about how "righteous" they can look by virtue signalling and extolling what wonderful people they are for "calling out" racism and xenophobia. Its created this weird docile stupor in which I see a genuine lack of real anger at the fact that terrorists are attacking events full of tweens. And thats the point, a terrorist attack just blew up 19 children and you're sitting here crying about people's feelings getting hurt because people are angry at said situation. Grow up." you know what? You are right | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Ehhh.... I think people should be allowed to vent. There is a real and present threat with islamism and yet people like you seem to be more concerned about how "righteous" they can look by virtue signalling and extolling what wonderful people they are for "calling out" racism and xenophobia. Its created this weird docile stupor in which I see a genuine lack of real anger at the fact that terrorists are attacking events full of tweens. And thats the point, a terrorist attack just blew up 19 children and you're sitting here crying about people's feelings getting hurt because people are angry at said situation. Grow up. And what are 'people like me'? You assume you know anything about me and you obviously don't- I am as angry as anyone else at the thought of people wantonly killing innocents for literally no reason, but yet another thread on Fab lambasting certain races or religions isn't exactly going to help anyone is it. As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do." Quite right | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing No one is being forced to take part. And no one controls my narrative. Sorry but I disagree " Then we will have to agree to disagree I just know if one of my loved ones have lost their lives in this incident this isn't what I'd want to be reading right now | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing I only started it again to respond to the last post of the previous thread, which I did. I didn't invite the racists etc, what other people post is beyond my control I'm afraid. " True | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? You are obviously a sweet heart, but these people are evil- this IS political- Freedom of speech is our RIGHT - I agree this doesn't help the bereaved but these are our children who have died! " The problem there is that when it gets politically or religiously aggravated, the perpetrators commit atrocities because they feel it is their 'duty' as freedom of expression. How is causing arguments on a sex site conducive to anything? | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing No one is being forced to take part. And no one controls my narrative. Sorry but I disagree Then we will have to agree to disagree I just know if one of my loved ones have lost their lives in this incident this isn't what I'd want to be reading right now " No, but reading this would probably be the last thing on your mind don't you think? There's loads of other threads for anyone who doesn't want to talk about this. We're all free to chose what we read,or don't | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing I only started it again to respond to the last post of the previous thread, which I did. I didn't invite the racists etc, what other people post is beyond my control I'm afraid. " True you now can't control what people post but you could have responded to the last comment privately with the person that made it, (I often do that on a closed thread) than open this up publicly for more hate to be shown | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? You are obviously a sweet heart, but these people are evil- this IS political- Freedom of speech is our RIGHT - I agree this doesn't help the bereaved but these are our children who have died! The problem there is that when it gets politically or religiously aggravated, the perpetrators commit atrocities because they feel it is their 'duty' as freedom of expression. How is causing arguments on a sex site conducive to anything? " It's a debate, not an argument. There will always be some folk trolling but the majority are having a debate, not arguing | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing No one is being forced to take part. And no one controls my narrative. Sorry but I disagree Then we will have to agree to disagree I just know if one of my loved ones have lost their lives in this incident this isn't what I'd want to be reading right now No, but reading this would probably be the last thing on your mind don't you think? There's loads of other threads for anyone who doesn't want to talk about this. We're all free to chose what we read,or don't "True, but people deal with things in many ways, they could choose to read the thread looking for messages on condolences and respect for comfort then get met with comments of hate instead | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing I only started it again to respond to the last post of the previous thread, which I did. I didn't invite the racists etc, what other people post is beyond my control I'm afraid. True you now can't control what people post but you could have responded to the last comment privately with the person that made it, (I often do that on a closed thread) than open this up publicly for more hate to be shown " The haters show themselves up for the racist trolls they are. The rest cant be held responsible for that | |||
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"I think at this point there's little use in speculation. The perpetrators (whoever they turn out to be) have achieved their goal and further dissent and hatred is only giving them more satisfaction. My thoughts are with those poor families who have been devastated by these events and its those who deserve our sympathies, focus and support." I agree with the sentiment but this is happening too often, a visceral zero tolerance response is needed. The feelings of those who privately condone but publicly put on a charade of condemning aren't important to me. A religious conceit does not grant immunity from due criticism and consequence. I agree with one of the posters above re their comments about people living in denial and lazily invoking epithets of "racism" or "xenophobia" every time something real or uncomfortable punctures their bubble. | |||
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"Personally think carrying this thread on after how the last one stirred up so much hate towards the end was in poor taste People have died all that needs to be shown is respect and condolences for them and their families, some of which could be members of this very site, that simply don't need to be ready all the bile the discussion on it is producing No one is being forced to take part. And no one controls my narrative. Sorry but I disagree Then we will have to agree to disagree I just know if one of my loved ones have lost their lives in this incident this isn't what I'd want to be reading right now No, but reading this would probably be the last thing on your mind don't you think? There's loads of other threads for anyone who doesn't want to talk about this. We're all free to chose what we read,or don't
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"so what should we do then? give those who've killed innocent people a round of applause for a job well done? and at least we are showing respect to those who have tragically been killed. unlike the perpetrators who have shown them no bloody respect at all. it could be argued that you haven't showed much respect either with your "do we need this on a swinging site". just because we're on here doesn't mean we aren't allowed to comment and express our horror of what's happened tonight..." | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? You are obviously a sweet heart, but these people are evil- this IS political- Freedom of speech is our RIGHT - I agree this doesn't help the bereaved but these are our children who have died! The problem there is that when it gets politically or religiously aggravated, the perpetrators commit atrocities because they feel it is their 'duty' as freedom of expression. How is causing arguments on a sex site conducive to anything? It's a debate, not an argument. There will always be some folk trolling but the majority are having a debate, not arguing" If this was a 'debate' then I wouldn't be being slammed for having an opinion would I, and the comebacks would be a modicum more intelligent. | |||
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"so what should we do then? give those who've killed innocent people a round of applause for a job well done? and at least we are showing respect to those who have tragically been killed. unlike the perpetrators who have shown them no bloody respect at all. it could be argued that you haven't showed much respect either with your "do we need this on a swinging site". just because we're on here doesn't mean we aren't allowed to comment and express our horror of what's happened tonight..." When did I say they deserved a round of applause? If you think I am any less angry than anyone else just because I don't feel the need to parade my hatred like a red flag across this thread then you are VERY much mistaken. Don't you dare assume anything about me, and certainly don't insult my integrity by casting aspersions on where my loyalties lie. | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here. No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? You are obviously a sweet heart, but these people are evil- this IS political- Freedom of speech is our RIGHT - I agree this doesn't help the bereaved but these are our children who have died! The problem there is that when it gets politically or religiously aggravated, the perpetrators commit atrocities because they feel it is their 'duty' as freedom of expression. How is causing arguments on a sex site conducive to anything? It's a debate, not an argument. There will always be some folk trolling but the majority are having a debate, not arguing If this was a 'debate' then I wouldn't be being slammed for having an opinion would I, and the comebacks would be a modicum more intelligent. " Sorry. It wasn't your opinion I was slamming it was the just stop it comment. Your opinion doesn't give you the right to control what others talk about. | |||
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"so what should we do then? give those who've killed innocent people a round of applause for a job well done? and at least we are showing respect to those who have tragically been killed. unlike the perpetrators who have shown them no bloody respect at all. it could be argued that you haven't showed much respect either with your "do we need this on a swinging site". just because we're on here doesn't mean we aren't allowed to comment and express our horror of what's happened tonight... When did I say they deserved a round of applause? If you think I am any less angry than anyone else just because I don't feel the need to parade my hatred like a red flag across this thread then you are VERY much mistaken. Don't you dare assume anything about me, and certainly don't insult my integrity by casting aspersions on where my loyalties lie." | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do." Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. | |||
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"Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! No such thing as 'Freedom of speech' anymore, when hate speech is involved. Why do people find it necessary to say stuff like this? It's not practical, it doesn't help anyone who has lost someone tonight, or anyone who is trying to find out if family/friends are ok. How are threads like this appropriate? You are obviously a sweet heart, but these people are evil- this IS political- Freedom of speech is our RIGHT - I agree this doesn't help the bereaved but these are our children who have died! The problem there is that when it gets politically or religiously aggravated, the perpetrators commit atrocities because they feel it is their 'duty' as freedom of expression. How is causing arguments on a sex site conducive to anything? It's a debate, not an argument. There will always be some folk trolling but the majority are having a debate, not arguing If this was a 'debate' then I wouldn't be being slammed for having an opinion would I, and the comebacks would be a Excuse me? "just stop it" freedom of speech im afraid. No disrespect here.It's not really a debate though is it? people died because of pointless religion- unfulfilled beautiful lives gone for a fuckin idea! Grow up modicum more intelligent. " | |||
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"No but for me all that's needs to be said is simply It's a tragedy and our thoughts are with the people that have died and are injuries and their families at this awful time " I was just gonna say there is another thread for just that but I see you know that | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. " Very well said !! Chip on shoulder some people have | |||
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"I think at this point there's little use in speculation. The perpetrators (whoever they turn out to be) have achieved their goal and further dissent and hatred is only giving them more satisfaction. My thoughts are with those poor families who have been devastated by these events and its those who deserve our sympathies, focus and support. I agree with the sentiment but this is happening too often, a visceral zero tolerance response is needed. The feelings of those who privately condone but publicly put on a charade of condemning aren't important to me. A religious conceit does not grant immunity from due criticism and consequence. I agree with one of the posters above re their comments about people living in denial and lazily invoking epithets of "racism" or "xenophobia" every time something real or uncomfortable punctures their bubble. " I don't condone anything... I just feel that the victims deserve more focus than the perpetrators. | |||
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"so what should we do then? give those who've killed innocent people a round of applause for a job well done? and at least we are showing respect to those who have tragically been killed. unlike the perpetrators who have shown them no bloody respect at all. it could be argued that you haven't showed much respect either with your "do we need this on a swinging site". just because we're on here doesn't mean we aren't allowed to comment and express our horror of what's happened tonight... When did I say they deserved a round of applause? If you think I am any less angry than anyone else just because I don't feel the need to parade my hatred like a red flag across this thread then you are VERY much mistaken. Don't you dare assume anything about me, and certainly don't insult my integrity by casting aspersions on where my loyalties lie. " | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. " Masochistic Neoliberalism.. It caused the sex gang problems in the North of England.. the terrorists currently living in the UK and plotting it's demise. People need to be real and accept not all cultures are created equal, some are built on violent bloody conquest and the mass graves of it's victims .. all the good Will and flattery in the world,a change of scenery and a few free meals won't change the violent and malevolent conceit of the particular one currently plaguing the world. | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. " She didn't ask for her profile to be critiqued or brought into this so you shouldn't have in pvc ordnance with forum rules. Not to mention it Turns any plausible argument you may have into some more personal, uncalled for and seemingly petty | |||
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"I think at this point there's little use in speculation. The perpetrators (whoever they turn out to be) have achieved their goal and further dissent and hatred is only giving them more satisfaction. My thoughts are with those poor families who have been devastated by these events and its those who deserve our sympathies, focus and support. I agree with the sentiment but this is happening too often, a visceral zero tolerance response is needed. The feelings of those who privately condone but publicly put on a charade of condemning aren't important to me. A religious conceit does not grant immunity from due criticism and consequence. I agree with one of the posters above re their comments about people living in denial and lazily invoking epithets of "racism" or "xenophobia" every time something real or uncomfortable punctures their bubble. I don't condone anything... I just feel that the victims deserve more focus than the perpetrators." More lame excuses. No one knows a single victim, not one. People dont want to "think of the victims". They just dislike upset to the established order. I hate people with these ideals because they will happily silence discourse until UKIP/BNPers take over. There is a real issue here with people living in their bubbles and aggressively defending said bubbles...I see it in the dissemination of incidences like these. There is absolutely no reason why NBC/Twitter/Breitbart (of all the fucking places) is able to accurately report the number of casualties and eyewtiness accounts whereas BBC etc. seem to be hellbent on dripfeeding kosher narratives, even having the gall to sit there and spend an hour trying to convince people that a malfunctioning balloon can somehow kill multiple people. And that poster simply wants to feed into that same repression of discourse. What makes a swingers site and inappropriate place for discussion of current affairs?? Isnt that what its for? People like her are cowards. Through and through. Intellectual cowards. They partake in their PC bubbles deeply nested in their comfort zones. Trust me, seen it in real life too many times to count. | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. She didn't ask for her profile to be critiqued or brought into this so you shouldn't have in pvc ordnance with forum rules. Not to mention it Turns any plausible argument you may have into some more personal, uncalled for and seemingly petty " People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. She didn't ask for her profile to be critiqued or brought into this so you shouldn't have in pvc ordnance with forum rules. Not to mention it Turns any plausible argument you may have into some more personal, uncalled for and seemingly petty People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions?" | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. " Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. She didn't ask for her profile to be critiqued or brought into this so you shouldn't have in pvc ordnance with forum rules. Not to mention it Turns any plausible argument you may have into some more personal, uncalled for and seemingly petty People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions?" well then those people broke forum rules when doing it to you too | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. " No intention of making you feel shitty so I apologise if I have. Maybe this isn't the thread for you. | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions?" Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? | |||
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"I think at this point there's little use in speculation. The perpetrators (whoever they turn out to be) have achieved their goal and further dissent and hatred is only giving them more satisfaction. My thoughts are with those poor families who have been devastated by these events and its those who deserve our sympathies, focus and support. I agree with the sentiment but this is happening too often, a visceral zero tolerance response is needed. The feelings of those who privately condone but publicly put on a charade of condemning aren't important to me. A religious conceit does not grant immunity from due criticism and consequence. I agree with one of the posters above re their comments about people living in denial and lazily invoking epithets of "racism" or "xenophobia" every time something real or uncomfortable punctures their bubble. I don't condone anything... I just feel that the victims deserve more focus than the perpetrators. More lame excuses. No one knows a single victim, not one. People dont want to "think of the victims". They just dislike upset to the established order. I hate people with these ideals because they will happily silence discourse until UKIP/BNPers take over. There is a real issue here with people living in their bubbles and aggressively defending said bubbles...I see it in the dissemination of incidences like these. There is absolutely no reason why NBC/Twitter/Breitbart (of all the fucking places) is able to accurately report the number of casualties and eyewtiness accounts whereas BBC etc. seem to be hellbent on dripfeeding kosher narratives, even having the gall to sit there and spend an hour trying to convince people that a malfunctioning balloon can somehow kill multiple people. And that poster simply wants to feed into that same repression of discourse. What makes a swingers site and inappropriate place for discussion of current affairs?? Isnt that what its for? People like her are cowards. Through and through. Intellectual cowards. They partake in their PC bubbles deeply nested in their comfort zones. Trust me, seen it in real life too many times to count. " 'People like her' I'd like to meet these people. Not that you'd appreciate this because you see what you want to see, but if more people were like me (the completely realised 'me' and not a snapshot on a forum when I am understandably upset) then the world would be a much nicer, happier place. But you have alreadt made your mind up about someone you have never met, so evidently you won't believe that. You know me better than I know myself, after all. | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. " You know whats interesting about this comment? ITS ALL ABOUT YOU. Endless "me's" and "I's". Casting yourself as a victim. Claiming I am "making you feel shitty" (forgetting about the fact that 19 people aint even alive anymore). Its all you. JUST you. Every single post of yours is all about coddling your own ego. And I could see that from the moment you started posting. All you wanted to do is take control of the narrative and use this event as an opportunity to sing of your own virtue. And thats the amusing thing about you. You dont actually about these victims. Nor about innocent muslims. Its all about YOU. And thats what this lefty liberalism "islamaphobia" calling nonsense is...narcissism. | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? " Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. No intention of making you feel shitty so I apologise if I have. Maybe this isn't the thread for you. " It's not really an apology if you follow it up with a patronising little comment like that, is it? | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences " *shouldn't be | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. No intention of making you feel shitty so I apologise if I have. Maybe this isn't the thread for you. It's not really an apology if you follow it up with a patronising little comment like that, is it?" not about you though luv is it? | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences " See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point." too right mate - who has the right to tell you to shut up- no-one respect | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point." And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. No intention of making you feel shitty so I apologise if I have. Maybe this isn't the thread for you. It's not really an apology if you follow it up with a patronising little comment like that, is it? not about you though luv is it?" Yup. Its all about her. Fucking pathetic. Some people are so low they will use terrorist attacks as an opportunity to showcase themselves. Then play docile/innocent to dispel backlash. You find them all over the place on twitter. | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. too right mate - who has the right to tell you to shut up- no-one respect" I wasn't the one that made the shut up comment thanks  | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. You know whats interesting about this comment? ITS ALL ABOUT YOU. Endless "me's" and "I's". Casting yourself as a victim. Claiming I am "making you feel shitty" (forgetting about the fact that 19 people aint even alive anymore). Its all you. JUST you. Every single post of yours is all about coddling your own ego. And I could see that from the moment you started posting. All you wanted to do is take control of the narrative and use this event as an opportunity to sing of your own virtue. And thats the amusing thing about you. You dont actually about these victims. Nor about innocent muslims. Its all about YOU. And thats what this lefty liberalism "islamaphobia" calling nonsense is...narcissism. " Actually most people will do that during a discourse, it is the way language has evolved, to use the first person narrative as a central point for the construction of a dialogue. I am far from virtuous. I want to press my thumbs into the eyeballs of whoever thought it was a good idea to do this tonight. I want to press down until I feel their corneas split under the pressure and watch them scream in agony for the lives they took tonight. So no. I'm not fucking virtuous, but geel free to bandy round more mindless accusations about me though, if it is what you need to do to feel better about what has happened tonight. | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste " No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded" Do you like being told what to do? | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded" Again I didn't say "just stop it", read back you've got the wrong person | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded Again I didn't say "just stop it", read back you've got the wrong person " My apologies, your right that wasn't you. | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. You know whats interesting about this comment? ITS ALL ABOUT YOU. Endless "me's" and "I's". Casting yourself as a victim. Claiming I am "making you feel shitty" (forgetting about the fact that 19 people aint even alive anymore). Its all you. JUST you. Every single post of yours is all about coddling your own ego. And I could see that from the moment you started posting. All you wanted to do is take control of the narrative and use this event as an opportunity to sing of your own virtue. And thats the amusing thing about you. You dont actually about these victims. Nor about innocent muslims. Its all about YOU. And thats what this lefty liberalism "islamaphobia" calling nonsense is...narcissism. Actually most people will do that during a discourse, it is the way language has evolved, to use the first person narrative as a central point for the construction of a dialogue. I am far from virtuous. I want to press my thumbs into the eyeballs of whoever thought it was a good idea to do this tonight. I want to press down until I feel their corneas split under the pressure and watch them scream in agony for the lives they took tonight. So no. I'm not fucking virtuous, but geel free to bandy round more mindless accusations about me though, if it is what you need to do to feel better about what has happened tonight." ffs go to bed | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded Again I didn't say "just stop it", read back you've got the wrong person My apologies, your right that wasn't you. " No problem | |||
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"Do you boys enjoy bullying women? Oh yes, its the Fab women who are the real victims tonight "No it's the people who have been hurt and killed who are the victims and that's what cute was saying. | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. You know whats interesting about this comment? ITS ALL ABOUT YOU. Endless "me's" and "I's". Casting yourself as a victim. Claiming I am "making you feel shitty" (forgetting about the fact that 19 people aint even alive anymore). Its all you. JUST you. Every single post of yours is all about coddling your own ego. And I could see that from the moment you started posting. All you wanted to do is take control of the narrative and use this event as an opportunity to sing of your own virtue. And thats the amusing thing about you. You dont actually about these victims. Nor about innocent muslims. Its all about YOU. And thats what this lefty liberalism "islamaphobia" calling nonsense is...narcissism. Actually most people will do that during a discourse, it is the way language has evolved, to use the first person narrative as a central point for the construction of a dialogue. I am far from virtuous. I want to press my thumbs into the eyeballs of whoever thought it was a good idea to do this tonight. I want to press down until I feel their corneas split under the pressure and watch them scream in agony for the lives they took tonight. So no. I'm not fucking virtuous, but geel free to bandy round more mindless accusations about me though, if it is what you need to do to feel better about what has happened tonight. ffs go to bed" Why? Are you running out of assumptions to make about me? Is the fact that I am challenging your assumed authority pissing you off? | |||
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"Do you boys enjoy bullying women?" Satire / irony ? If not.. read the thread thoroughly before playing that card. She tried to shut down discourse by suggesting anyone who comments upon the events earlier objectively are racist or xenophobic. Self aggrandising vacuous neoliberal narcissistic masochism as one of the posters has rightly raked her over the coals for. Her gender has nothing to do with it. | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded Again I didn't say "just stop it", read back you've got the wrong person My apologies, your right that wasn't you. " That was me. | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. You know whats interesting about this comment? ITS ALL ABOUT YOU. Endless "me's" and "I's". Casting yourself as a victim. Claiming I am "making you feel shitty" (forgetting about the fact that 19 people aint even alive anymore). Its all you. JUST you. Every single post of yours is all about coddling your own ego. And I could see that from the moment you started posting. All you wanted to do is take control of the narrative and use this event as an opportunity to sing of your own virtue. And thats the amusing thing about you. You dont actually about these victims. Nor about innocent muslims. Its all about YOU. And thats what this lefty liberalism "islamaphobia" calling nonsense is...narcissism. Actually most people will do that during a discourse, it is the way language has evolved, to use the first person narrative as a central point for the construction of a dialogue. I am far from virtuous. I want to press my thumbs into the eyeballs of whoever thought it was a good idea to do this tonight. I want to press down until I feel their corneas split under the pressure and watch them scream in agony for the lives they took tonight. So no. I'm not fucking virtuous, but geel free to bandy round more mindless accusations about me though, if it is what you need to do to feel better about what has happened tonight. ffs go to bed Why? Are you running out of assumptions to make about me? Is the fact that I am challenging your assumed authority pissing you off?" not at all I'm just sad for the people that have died and their families | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do" But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded Again I didn't say "just stop it", read back you've got the wrong person My apologies, your right that wasn't you. That was me. " Yes it was. It's late and I got mixed up. I don't want to fight btw. | |||
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"Do you boys enjoy bullying women? Satire / irony ? If not.. read the thread thoroughly before playing that card. She tried to shut down discourse by suggesting anyone who comments upon the events earlier objectively are racist or xenophobic. Self aggrandising vacuous neoliberal narcissistic masochism as one of the posters has rightly raked her over the coals for. Her gender has nothing to do with it." Well actually. What I attempted to do was to stop a political/racist backlash when no official sources had confirmed anything at the time, but general macho bravado and male posturing couldn't allow for the fact that I had any opinions of my own, and so I was attacked for things that people had assumed based on a few lines of profile text. It would be interesting though, wouldn't it, to see what people might have said if I were male. How fascinating. | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded Again I didn't say "just stop it", read back you've got the wrong person My apologies, your right that wasn't you. That was me. Yes it was. It's late and I got mixed up. I don't want to fight btw. "go to bed mate | |||
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" As far as I am aware it has not been confirmed by a reputable source that this is a terrorist attack, so no matter how likely it may be that that is what has happened, I will reserve judgement until it has been publically announced. You know, because that is what grown up people do. Are you fucking serious? Havent confirmed a terrorist attack? Sorry but I have met a lot of English people like you. Have one or two foreign friends and now start thinking they're the bastion of all things "tolerant". Its so fucking pathetic when I meet them and they think sitting there telling people about the ills of "islamaphobia" or how "terrible" white people are thinks that affords them some kind of PC brownie points. Its like you're so in denial you want to sit here and pretend that the dozens of images showing shrapnel like injuries, the official police statement, the controlled detonation all didn't happen. LOL I even read your profile in which you explicitly state how much you dislike "racists". Its like your entire persona is one lame, cliched apologia. Speaking of being a "grown-up" is childish. Trust me, as a minority man myself, people like you are not doing anyone ANY favors. Again, you know nothing about me, so you're casting mindless aspersions. None of the claims you have made about me are true, actually, and yes, I hate racism. I don't need brownie points or approval from you, and I am not trying to do you any favours. The point I am trying to make if everyone stops attacking me for two seconds is that it doesn't matter WHO did this. Racist or political comments like on other threads are only going to cause dissention and right now that is the last thing we need. People are dead, picking fights about assumptions you've made based on a few lines of profile text on a swingers site- how is that helpful to anyone? How does causing upset to a girl you have never met by saying cruel, untrue and unnecessary things to her help anything? I haven't said anything personal against any individual at all on here, all I was trying to do was to calm the anguish and anger I am feeling right now about this attack by attempting to dissipate some negativity, yet no less than three people see fit to attack me and make me feel shitty. Thanks very much. You know whats interesting about this comment? ITS ALL ABOUT YOU. Endless "me's" and "I's". Casting yourself as a victim. Claiming I am "making you feel shitty" (forgetting about the fact that 19 people aint even alive anymore). Its all you. JUST you. Every single post of yours is all about coddling your own ego. And I could see that from the moment you started posting. All you wanted to do is take control of the narrative and use this event as an opportunity to sing of your own virtue. And thats the amusing thing about you. You dont actually about these victims. Nor about innocent muslims. Its all about YOU. And thats what this lefty liberalism "islamaphobia" calling nonsense is...narcissism. Actually most people will do that during a discourse, it is the way language has evolved, to use the first person narrative as a central point for the construction of a dialogue. I am far from virtuous. I want to press my thumbs into the eyeballs of whoever thought it was a good idea to do this tonight. I want to press down until I feel their corneas split under the pressure and watch them scream in agony for the lives they took tonight. So no. I'm not fucking virtuous, but geel free to bandy round more mindless accusations about me though, if it is what you need to do to feel better about what has happened tonight. ffs go to bed Why? Are you running out of assumptions to make about me? Is the fact that I am challenging your assumed authority pissing you off? not at all I'm just sad for the people that have died and their families " I am too. Can't find the words for it | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances " I'm suggesting an option, not telling anyone anything. See, if you were the original op, your thread, then fair enough. But you wouldn't go up to company in a bar who were conversing & tell them they shouldn't be talking about that would you? | |||
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"Ma "mate" has just texted me with one of his silly jokes about this. I doubt he will be ma mate for too much longer..... There is really no need for any of this. What is the world coming to ffs? Not good RIP to all " RIP is the right sentiment at this time | |||
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" People critique my profile all the time when making observations about my statements. When did this become a problem? I am perfectly fine with it too. No idea/conjecture/stance exists in a vacuum and it is to be expected that people will draw from a profile to make conclusions. What is this? Honestly? Are you people THIS immune to uncomfortable opinions? Best burn I've read all night. I think a side note to take away here is that maybe moderation and policing standards on here have just slipped a midge lately? Don't really think that first line was in the best of taste either given the events that unfolded This should be about point scoring, and hatred, but respect and condolences See. The problems not your opinion. Its that your trying to tell people what they should, or shouldn't talk about & that's not right. I for one dislike being told what I should & shouldn't do. I'm not having a go, just trying to make my point. And it's likely your "I don't like being told what to do" attitude is the reason your reading my comments in that way When I'm merely saying that it's my opinion that all this negativity is misplaced and in poor taste No sorry. You said " just stop it" and then said what the thread should be about. I'm not saying you meant it that way but it is how it was worded Again I didn't say "just stop it", read back you've got the wrong person My apologies, your right that wasn't you. That was me. Yes it was. It's late and I got mixed up. I don't want to fight btw. go to bed mate "I will. When I'm ready | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances I'm suggesting an option, not telling anyone anything. See, if you were the original op, your thread, then fair enough. But you wouldn't go up to company in a bar who were conversing & tell them they shouldn't be talking about that would you?" And I've merely been suggesting this is all in poor taste and an continuation thread wasn't needed And yes If I was in a conversation with someone and I believed they said something in poor taste i absolutely would say that I thought they were out of line | |||
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"Do you boys enjoy bullying women? Satire / irony ? If not.. read the thread thoroughly before playing that card. She tried to shut down discourse by suggesting anyone who comments upon the events earlier objectively are racist or xenophobic. Self aggrandising vacuous neoliberal narcissistic masochism as one of the posters has rightly raked her over the coals for. Her gender has nothing to do with it. Well actually. What I attempted to do was to stop a political/racist backlash when no official sources had confirmed anything at the time, but general macho bravado and male posturing couldn't allow for the fact that I had any opinions of my own, and so I was attacked for things that people had assumed based on a few lines of profile text. It would be interesting though, wouldn't it, to see what people might have said if I were male. How fascinating." How many cards do you plan on pulling from the deck and playing? Racism... Xenophobia.. now sexism? His assessment of you was correct. Good night. | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances I'm suggesting an option, not telling anyone anything. See, if you were the original op, your thread, then fair enough. But you wouldn't go up to company in a bar who were conversing & tell them they shouldn't be talking about that would you?" This is a public forum, anyone posting on here should know that anyone can read it and is entitled to post an opinion. People talking in a bar is different as it is private. Do you understand how basic forms of communication work? | |||
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"I think at this point there's little use in speculation. The perpetrators (whoever they turn out to be) have achieved their goal and further dissent and hatred is only giving them more satisfaction. My thoughts are with those poor families who have been devastated by these events and its those who deserve our sympathies, focus and support. I agree with the sentiment but this is happening too often, a visceral zero tolerance response is needed. The feelings of those who privately condone but publicly put on a charade of condemning aren't important to me. A religious conceit does not grant immunity from due criticism and consequence. I agree with one of the posters above re their comments about people living in denial and lazily invoking epithets of "racism" or "xenophobia" every time something real or uncomfortable punctures their bubble. I don't condone anything... I just feel that the victims deserve more focus than the perpetrators. More lame excuses. No one knows a single victim, not one. People dont want to "think of the victims". They just dislike upset to the established order. I hate people with these ideals because they will happily silence discourse until UKIP/BNPers take over. There is a real issue here with people living in their bubbles and aggressively defending said bubbles...I see it in the dissemination of incidences like these. There is absolutely no reason why NBC/Twitter/Breitbart (of all the fucking places) is able to accurately report the number of casualties and eyewtiness accounts whereas BBC etc. seem to be hellbent on dripfeeding kosher narratives, even having the gall to sit there and spend an hour trying to convince people that a malfunctioning balloon can somehow kill multiple people. And that poster simply wants to feed into that same repression of discourse. What makes a swingers site and inappropriate place for discussion of current affairs?? Isnt that what its for? People like her are cowards. Through and through. Intellectual cowards. They partake in their PC bubbles deeply nested in their comfort zones. Trust me, seen it in real life too many times to count. " I don't understand... I'm a coward for having empathy and expressing my sympathies for those who have had their world's turned upside down in the most unimaginably horrifying way?? I'm not British by the way... Just someone living in a neighbouring country who wanted to express her heartfelt sympathies as a human being for those who have been devastated and suffered such tragic losses. Despite the negativity with which it has been received (or rejected) by a small few, I will continue to feel empathy for those who deserve it and keep them in my thoughts. | |||
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"Do you boys enjoy bullying women? Satire / irony ? If not.. read the thread thoroughly before playing that card. She tried to shut down discourse by suggesting anyone who comments upon the events earlier objectively are racist or xenophobic. Self aggrandising vacuous neoliberal narcissistic masochism as one of the posters has rightly raked her over the coals for. Her gender has nothing to do with it. Well actually. What I attempted to do was to stop a political/racist backlash when no official sources had confirmed anything at the time, but general macho bravado and male posturing couldn't allow for the fact that I had any opinions of my own, and so I was attacked for things that people had assumed based on a few lines of profile text. It would be interesting though, wouldn't it, to see what people might have said if I were male. How fascinating. How many cards do you plan on pulling from the deck and playing? Racism... Xenophobia.. now sexism? His assessment of you was correct. Good night." I haven't been any of those things, I have been arguing against them, but I understand if some of the comments I have made are beyond your comprehension. I assume you're another one who doesn't understand how conversation works. You can't just say 'goodnight' and expect someone to leave because you have run out of things to say | |||
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"I think at this point there's little use in speculation. The perpetrators (whoever they turn out to be) have achieved their goal and further dissent and hatred is only giving them more satisfaction. My thoughts are with those poor families who have been devastated by these events and its those who deserve our sympathies, focus and support. I agree with the sentiment but this is happening too often, a visceral zero tolerance response is needed. The feelings of those who privately condone but publicly put on a charade of condemning aren't important to me. A religious conceit does not grant immunity from due criticism and consequence. I agree with one of the posters above re their comments about people living in denial and lazily invoking epithets of "racism" or "xenophobia" every time something real or uncomfortable punctures their bubble. I don't condone anything... I just feel that the victims deserve more focus than the perpetrators. More lame excuses. No one knows a single victim, not one. People dont want to "think of the victims". They just dislike upset to the established order. I hate people with these ideals because they will happily silence discourse until UKIP/BNPers take over. There is a real issue here with people living in their bubbles and aggressively defending said bubbles...I see it in the dissemination of incidences like these. There is absolutely no reason why NBC/Twitter/Breitbart (of all the fucking places) is able to accurately report the number of casualties and eyewtiness accounts whereas BBC etc. seem to be hellbent on dripfeeding kosher narratives, even having the gall to sit there and spend an hour trying to convince people that a malfunctioning balloon can somehow kill multiple people. And that poster simply wants to feed into that same repression of discourse. What makes a swingers site and inappropriate place for discussion of current affairs?? Isnt that what its for? People like her are cowards. Through and through. Intellectual cowards. They partake in their PC bubbles deeply nested in their comfort zones. Trust me, seen it in real life too many times to count. I don't understand... I'm a coward for having empathy and expressing my sympathies for those who have had their world's turned upside down in the most unimaginably horrifying way?? I'm not British by the way... Just someone living in a neighbouring country who wanted to express her heartfelt sympathies as a human being for those who have been devastated and suffered such tragic losses. Despite the negativity with which it has been received (or rejected) by a small few, I will continue to feel empathy for those who deserve it and keep them in my thoughts." Very nicely put, thank you x | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances I'm suggesting an option, not telling anyone anything. See, if you were the original op, your thread, then fair enough. But you wouldn't go up to company in a bar who were conversing & tell them they shouldn't be talking about that would you? This is a public forum, anyone posting on here should know that anyone can read it and is entitled to post an opinion. People talking in a bar is different as it is private. Do you understand how basic forms of communication work?" Yes I do, & that's fair enough. But the op started the thread and was talking about a different aspect of this monstrous act. There's other threads for condolences which I, &'others on this thread have contributed. How many times Can you express condolences genuinely. This thread wasn't about that & no one has the right to tell anyone what to talk about. If I didn't want to discuss the political and, or racial aspects then id go elsewhere. Not jump in & try to control what others are saying because I would have no right to do so. | |||
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"This is the comment the lady made and personally I think it was a just comment considering the situation that has happened. Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site!" There was NO racism or xenophobia present, the man she was arguing with for much of the thread is a black gentleman ffs!! She came in , made a few pointlessly condescending and clichéd remarks that related more to polishing her ego and neoliberal bravado than anything present in the thread that would merit such comments. When challenged and exposed she them goes on to play the sexism card. Utterly Vile and vacuous behaviour. We'll have to agree to disagree and just leave it there. | |||
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"This is the comment the lady made and personally I think it was a just comment considering the situation that has happened. Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site!" I don't think she meant it, but it does look like she's telling us what to talk about. There are condolence threads there & I'm sure most if not all of us have posted. | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances I'm suggesting an option, not telling anyone anything. See, if you were the original op, your thread, then fair enough. But you wouldn't go up to company in a bar who were conversing & tell them they shouldn't be talking about that would you? This is a public forum, anyone posting on here should know that anyone can read it and is entitled to post an opinion. People talking in a bar is different as it is private. Do you understand how basic forms of communication work? Yes I do, & that's fair enough. But the op started the thread and was talking about a different aspect of this monstrous act. There's other threads for condolences which I, &'others on this thread have contributed. How many times Can you express condolences genuinely. This thread wasn't about that & no one has the right to tell anyone what to talk about. If I didn't want to discuss the political and, or racial aspects then id go elsewhere. Not jump in & try to control what others are saying because I would have no right to do so." Just to point out... The OP merely continued an existing thread (it is part2), which started by merely asking if anyone had heard the news... There was no political intent. I know, because I was one of the early posters. So to condemn someone for expressing an opinion other than a political one is hardly relevant. | |||
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"This is the comment the lady made and personally I think it was a just comment considering the situation that has happened. Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! There was NO racism or xenophobia present, the man she was arguing with for much of the thread is a black gentleman ffs!! She came in , made a few pointlessly condescending and clichéd remarks that related more to polishing her ego and neoliberal bravado than anything present in the thread that would merit such comments. When challenged and exposed she them goes on to play the sexism card. Utterly Vile and vacuous behaviour. We'll have to agree to disagree and just leave it there. " The previous thread and this one WAS going the way she pointed out. She was arguing with the black man after that anyway and rightly so because he unfairly made assumptions about her. I've nt seen her polish her ego anywhere I have seen her stand up for herself though. So yes we will very much so agree to disagree! | |||
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"This is the comment the lady made and personally I think it was a just comment considering the situation that has happened. Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! There was NO racism or xenophobia present, the man she was arguing with for much of the thread is a black gentleman ffs!! She came in , made a few pointlessly condescending and clichéd remarks that related more to polishing her ego and neoliberal bravado than anything present in the thread that would merit such comments. When challenged and exposed she them goes on to play the sexism card. Utterly Vile and vacuous behaviour. We'll have to agree to disagree and just leave it there. " I'm pretty sure you have to actually SAY racist of xenophobic things to be racist or xenophobic. Nothing I said fell into either of those categories, thus the colour of his skin was circumstantial. What you are actually doing is trying to do is accuse me of something I haven't done, to make yourself feel better for your attacks and accusations. As for the being 'challenged and exposed' part- again- I would have had to have done somehing worse than have an opinion in order to be 'exposed' You know, like being a bully who takes an innocently intended comment out of context in order to make themselves feel better | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances I'm suggesting an option, not telling anyone anything. See, if you were the original op, your thread, then fair enough. But you wouldn't go up to company in a bar who were conversing & tell them they shouldn't be talking about that would you? This is a public forum, anyone posting on here should know that anyone can read it and is entitled to post an opinion. People talking in a bar is different as it is private. Do you understand how basic forms of communication work? Yes I do, & that's fair enough. But the op started the thread and was talking about a different aspect of this monstrous act. There's other threads for condolences which I, &'others on this thread have contributed. How many times Can you express condolences genuinely. This thread wasn't about that & no one has the right to tell anyone what to talk about. If I didn't want to discuss the political and, or racial aspects then id go elsewhere. Not jump in & try to control what others are saying because I would have no right to do so. Just to point out... The OP merely continued an existing thread (it is part2), which started by merely asking if anyone had heard the news... There was no political intent. I know, because I was one of the early posters. So to condemn someone for expressing an opinion other than a political one is hardly relevant." I'm not bothered about opinions- everyone has one. What I was trying to do was to keep it from being political/inflammatory like other threads had gotten. That's all. I'm sorry is anyone felt like I was threatening their 'human rights' or 'freedom of speech' but I thought there had probably been enough upset tonight already. Apparently certain people saw this as much more of a threat and saw fit to make hurtful and unfounded accusations about me. | |||
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"This is the comment the lady made and personally I think it was a just comment considering the situation that has happened. Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! I don't think she meant it, but it does look like she's telling us what to talk about. There are condolence threads there & I'm sure most if not all of us have posted. " To me it came across as a plea to not continue the politics that the previous thread was going down. Ffs the Manchester arena thread filled up quickly because posters felt the need to discuss the conflicts in Ireland. I started the condolence thread... It's had 13 posts where politics and hate is on its third thread. Says it all about the world and fab really doesn't it. | |||
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"This is the comment the lady made and personally I think it was a just comment considering the situation that has happened. Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! I don't think she meant it, but it does look like she's telling us what to talk about. There are condolence threads there & I'm sure most if not all of us have posted. To me it came across as a plea to not continue the politics that the previous thread was going down. Ffs the Manchester arena thread filled up quickly because posters felt the need to discuss the conflicts in Ireland. I started the condolence thread... It's had 13 posts where politics and hate is on its third thread. Says it all about the world and fab really doesn't it. " It does indeed Makes me ashamed to be a part of the human race at times That condolence thread should be got to burst with love and support and it's awfully sad that it isn't | |||
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"This is the comment the lady made and personally I think it was a just comment considering the situation that has happened. Just stop it. This is getting political, racist and disrespecrful. People have died, give them some dignity and don't hash out your prejudices and agendas on a swinging site! I don't think she meant it, but it does look like she's telling us what to talk about. There are condolence threads there & I'm sure most if not all of us have posted. To me it came across as a plea to not continue the politics that the previous thread was going down. Ffs the Manchester arena thread filled up quickly because posters felt the need to discuss the conflicts in Ireland. I started the condolence thread... It's had 13 posts where politics and hate is on its third thread. Says it all about the world and fab really doesn't it. " This was literally all it was. Not sure why people felt so threatened by that they had to attack me and accuse me of things like racism and xenophobia? | |||
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"Anyone who doesn't like the thread could always choose a different one more suitable for them. I'm sorry but I don't think that most here have shown disrespect. Quite the opposite. We're just choosing to talk about a different aspect of it. I really wish people would stop trying to censor others. Threads not your thing, then leave. That's what I would do But telling someone to go participate in another thread if they don't like this one is essentially not better than telling someone to shut up Discussing another aspect of the issue is fine but these 2 threads have become quite vitriolic and in some ways personal. It's wrong in the forums in general and in even more poor taste in the circumstances I'm suggesting an option, not telling anyone anything. See, if you were the original op, your thread, then fair enough. But you wouldn't go up to company in a bar who were conversing & tell them they shouldn't be talking about that would you? This is a public forum, anyone posting on here should know that anyone can read it and is entitled to post an opinion. People talking in a bar is different as it is private. Do you understand how basic forms of communication work? Yes I do, & that's fair enough. But the op started the thread and was talking about a different aspect of this monstrous act. There's other threads for condolences which I, &'others on this thread have contributed. How many times Can you express condolences genuinely. This thread wasn't about that & no one has the right to tell anyone what to talk about. If I didn't want to discuss the political and, or racial aspects then id go elsewhere. Not jump in & try to control what others are saying because I would have no right to do so. Just to point out... The OP merely continued an existing thread (it is part2), which started by merely asking if anyone had heard the news... There was no political intent. I know, because I was one of the early posters. So to condemn someone for expressing an opinion other than a political one is hardly relevant. I'm not bothered about opinions- everyone has one. What I was trying to do was to keep it from being political/inflammatory like other threads had gotten. That's all. I'm sorry is anyone felt like I was threatening their 'human rights' or 'freedom of speech' but I thought there had probably been enough upset tonight already. Apparently certain people saw this as much more of a threat and saw fit to make hurtful and unfounded accusations about me." I see what your your saying but it's not your responsibility to keep it in check. The racists are arseholes who were nothing to do with the rest, & they would get put in place anyway | |||
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"All I'm saying is some people wanted to talk about it. Other than just to express condolences. And they have the right to without being told to stop it. That's all. All this has come about because of that. None of us, including me have the right to dictate what others talk about. Choose your forum accordingly &'leave others to do there thing. Does no one agree with this?" You know what? If it means that much to you, after all you and the others have said, then you go right ahead. Make it as political and racist as you like, just like the other threads, and watch the cycle of violence repeat itself. We all have the ability to say only things that are kind, useful and true, but if you want your angry accusatory diatribes then go ahead. Apparently this was never about 'freedom of speech' anyway, else you wouldn't have been do threatened by mine. | |||
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"All I'm saying is some people wanted to talk about it. Other than just to express condolences. And they have the right to without being told to stop it. That's all. All this has come about because of that. None of us, including me have the right to dictate what others talk about. Choose your forum accordingly &'leave others to do there thing. Does no one agree with this? You know what? If it means that much to you, after all you and the others have said, then you go right ahead. Make it as political and racist as you like, just like the other threads, and watch the cycle of violence repeat itself. We all have the ability to say only things that are kind, useful and true, but if you want your angry accusatory diatribes then go ahead. Apparently this was never about 'freedom of speech' anyway, else you wouldn't have been do threatened by mine." Thanks for your permission to continue. I appreciate it. | |||
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"All I'm saying is some people wanted to talk about it. Other than just to express condolences. And they have the right to without being told to stop it. That's all. All this has come about because of that. None of us, including me have the right to dictate what others talk about. Choose your forum accordingly &'leave others to do there thing. Does no one agree with this? You know what? If it means that much to you, after all you and the others have said, then you go right ahead. Make it as political and racist as you like, just like the other threads, and watch the cycle of violence repeat itself. We all have the ability to say only things that are kind, useful and true, but if you want your angry accusatory diatribes then go ahead. Apparently this was never about 'freedom of speech' anyway, else you wouldn't have been do threatened by mine." I'm not the one telling people what to say. Lol. And I never tried to force anyone to talk about anything. And I didn't even come on here to argue, never do. I think we're just talking about different things & really don't want any bad blood. No hard feelings here | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx" It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. | |||
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"All I'm saying is some people wanted to talk about it. Other than just to express condolences. And they have the right to without being told to stop it. That's all. All this has come about because of that. None of us, including me have the right to dictate what others talk about. Choose your forum accordingly &'leave others to do there thing. Does no one agree with this? You know what? If it means that much to you, after all you and the others have said, then you go right ahead. Make it as political and racist as you like, just like the other threads, and watch the cycle of violence repeat itself. We all have the ability to say only things that are kind, useful and true, but if you want your angry accusatory diatribes then go ahead. Apparently this was never about 'freedom of speech' anyway, else you wouldn't have been do threatened by mine. I'm not the one telling people what to say. Lol. And I never tried to force anyone to talk about anything. And I didn't even come on here to argue, never do. I think we're just talking about different things & really don't want any bad blood. No hard feelings here" All I did was ask you not to tell me what to talk about, not shut you down | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast." When was that? | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast." Aww I'm sorry to hear that. I do think this is political maybe both tbh. A political Isis rouge. X | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. When was that? " in the late 80s I think. Xx | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. When was that? " Not 100% but early nineties I think. | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. When was that? Not 100% but early nineties I think. " 1996 | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. When was that? in the late 80s I think. Xx" Yeah, I was only born in '89 so I have only read about things that happened, studied political warfare etc at Uni as part of a degree unit. It's crazy that 30 years on stuff is still happening much the same way, the dissention is still there, it's just shifted from one disillusioned group to another I guess? | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. Aww I'm sorry to hear that. I do think this is political maybe both tbh. A political Isis rouge. X" Could be x | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. When was that? in the late 80s I think. Xx Yeah, I was only born in '89 so I have only read about things that happened, studied political warfare etc at Uni as part of a degree unit. It's crazy that 30 years on stuff is still happening much the same way, the dissention is still there, it's just shifted from one disillusioned group to another I guess?" True. It would appear that there's always someone looking to cause mayhem unfortunately | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. When was that? in the late 80s I think. Xx Yeah, I was only born in '89 so I have only read about things that happened, studied political warfare etc at Uni as part of a degree unit. It's crazy that 30 years on stuff is still happening much the same way, the dissention is still there, it's just shifted from one disillusioned group to another I guess? True. It would appear that there's always someone looking to cause mayhem unfortunately" Wouldn't it be nice if the world was just calm for a day. None of this- no war, no fighting, no hunger or pain or suffering. Just people, being good to each other. | |||
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"Was just eatin a bit of pizza n was trying to remember when was the last time Manchester was bombed? Wasn't it the main shopping centre by the ira. M and s I think was worst hit. Xxx It was, and my cousins man lost his hearing in the blast. When was that? in the late 80s I think. Xx Yeah, I was only born in '89 so I have only read about things that happened, studied political warfare etc at Uni as part of a degree unit. It's crazy that 30 years on stuff is still happening much the same way, the dissention is still there, it's just shifted from one disillusioned group to another I guess? True. It would appear that there's always someone looking to cause mayhem unfortunately Wouldn't it be nice if the world was just calm for a day. None of this- no war, no fighting, no hunger or pain or suffering. Just people, being good to each other." Aye. John Lennon was saying that years ago but not enough cared, & look what happened to him ffs | |||
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"It is so odd to me that people's first reaction nowadays is to be as shitty as possible to each other. Every day I have to remind myself that there is good in the world as well as all of the bad." I agree, & sorry for any offence I may have caused you before. That was never my intention. I think emotions are just running high tonight. And to _urvymama too, no offence intended | |||
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"They couldn't beat us 30 years ago and they still can't now. Like then we will just become stronger. Manchester there's no place like home" | |||
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"Has it occured to anybody involved in the bickering on this thread, that there is a strong chance that a fellow Fabite has been caught up in this incident? Directly or indirectly. And they will be hurting right now. Please, be kind to eachother... "Yes I mentioned it and that's why I thought the thread with its bickering was in poor taste | |||
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"Absolutely in tears. Too close to my home family and friends to register how sad this is. " So true | |||
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"Absolutely in tears. Too close to my home family and friends to register how sad this is. " If I said I'm 2 minutes away I'm exaggerating. Way to close mate. Think my lot are ok hope yours are to | |||
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"Absolutely in tears. Too close to my home family and friends to register how sad this is. If I said I'm 2 minutes away I'm exaggerating. Way to close mate. Think my lot are ok hope yours are to "My cousin was supposed to be there.(couldn't go, gave his ticket away) His friends were. I've heard nothing yet. It's a cold morning. I was there at the weekend. They were doing a controlled explosion whilst I was there. | |||
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"Just waking up to this news so haven't seen the previous thread but freedom of speech is very important to me. Thank god it was people with no taste in music." Really???! | |||
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"Just waking up to this news so haven't seen the previous thread but freedom of speech is very important to me. Thank god it was people with no taste in music." What are you for real | |||
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"Just waking up to this news so haven't seen the previous thread but freedom of speech is very important to me. Thank god it was people with no taste in music." Freedom of speech is wasted on some people | |||
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"Did you really just post that?? 19 dead mostly children and you think that because you don't like the artist that makes it ok ?? Very sick " It doesn't make it ok. | |||
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"Absolutely in tears. Too close to my home family and friends to register how sad this is. If I said I'm 2 minutes away I'm exaggerating. Way to close mate. Think my lot are ok hope yours are to
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"Just waking up to this news so haven't seen the previous thread but freedom of speech is very important to me. Thank god it was people with no taste in music. What are you for real "I reported that Bladey. I think that's the worst thing I've ever read in here. | |||
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"Just waking up to this news so haven't seen the previous thread but freedom of speech is very important to me. Thank god it was people with no taste in music. Freedom of speech is wasted on some people " Nope. Just because i disagree with what you say doesn't mean I don't defend your right to say it. | |||
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"Just waking up to this news so haven't seen the previous thread but freedom of speech is very important to me. Thank god it was people with no taste in music." Fucks sake yes THANK GOD it was mainly innocent children! Seriously?! I think some people need to engage brain before typing | |||
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"All I'm saying is some people wanted to talk about it. Other than just to express condolences. And they have the right to without being told to stop it. That's all. All this has come about because of that. None of us, including me have the right to dictate what others talk about. Choose your forum accordingly &'leave others to do there thing. Does no one agree with this?" Wow. After reading through this thread top to bottom I agree with this above all else and I see no sexism and no bullying. I saw one person attempting to stop free speech and then throw up the bullying and sexist card when she got replies back. Same person came in part way through another post where I was being attacked recently and put her two penneth in. Not harshly i admit, but she did join in the "bullying". This is a forum where by and large topics of all sorts are posted within FAB rules. The fact it's a "sex site" has no bearing on this at all. No one has the right to silence and what I'm seeing more and more recently from similar to above, my own so called fair sex, totally trying to dictate and force their opinions as the given word. Have your say by all means, but don't tell others to shut up or that they are wrong. - Kinky  - | |||
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