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IAN BRADY - EARLIER THREAD - HE IS DEAD
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
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shame winnie johnson never got any peace before she died |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
shame winnie johnson never got any peace before she died"
everytime this poor woman was inter_iewed it was heartbreaking |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
shame winnie johnson never got any peace before she died everytime this poor woman was inter_iewed it was heartbreaking "
let's hope he has to face her and everyone else . |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
shame winnie johnson never got any peace before she died everytime this poor woman was inter_iewed it was heartbreaking let's hope he has to face her and everyone else ."
Na.....they are in heaven - he's going to rot in hell. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Yessssssssssss pond life is DEAD"
Unfortunately one victim was never found. He wanted to be allowed to die years ago. The authorities should have been allowed to do a deal. He tells them where he is, and he gets to starve himself to death.
Btw, i agree.. So much resources used to keep that thing alive. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
shame winnie johnson never got any peace before she died everytime this poor woman was inter_iewed it was heartbreaking let's hope he has to face her and everyone else .
Na.....they are in heaven - he's going to rot in hell. "
reunited with his bitch hindley |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive wonder who's gonna pay for its funeral. 
I doubt whether there will be a grave stone. "
I doubt it too. They should dump him on the moors to rot but then again he's not worthy of being on the same ground as his poor victims. |
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest. "
Why? He has died. He was going to die, as are we all. His crimes were heinous beyond belief but wishing him dead, especially after death, does nothing to balance that account: NOTHING can. I don't believe in the death sentence and I do believe that people (some, not all) have the capacity for rehabilitation.
What is sick about stating the facts and wishing people affected peace?
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By (user no longer on site)
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Good riddance!! I hope the evil c**t suffered right up to his final breath!! He could have put that poor woman out of her misery years ago instead she died never knowing where her child was buried. There is something wrong with anyone who feels an ounce of sympathy for this man. Let him burn in hell with that bitch Hindley. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Let the State bury him and let us try and forget him. I hope the families of the victims find some peace now with his death
However, I am not going to dance in glee on his grave. A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
Why? He has died. He was going to die, as are we all. His crimes were heinous beyond belief but wishing him dead, especially after death, does nothing to balance that account: NOTHING can. I don't believe in the death sentence and I do believe that people (some, not all) have the capacity for rehabilitation.
What is sick about stating the facts and wishing people affected peace?
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Liberalistic hippy, live and let live, come what may. It's an idealism that isn't always appropriate to all situations. This one most definitely. |
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By *uxom redCouple
over a year ago
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"Let the State bury him and let us try and forget him. I hope the families of the victims find some peace now with his death
However, I am not going to dance in glee on his grave. A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
- Mrs. J -"
Well said.
My the victims finally have peace
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By *icketysplitsWoman
over a year ago
Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound |
"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
Why? He has died. He was going to die, as are we all. His crimes were heinous beyond belief but wishing him dead, especially after death, does nothing to balance that account: NOTHING can. I don't believe in the death sentence and I do believe that people (some, not all) have the capacity for rehabilitation.
What is sick about stating the facts and wishing people affected peace?
Liberalistic hippy, live and let live, come what may. It's an idealism that isn't always appropriate to all situations. This one most definitely. "
I have not said live and let live come what may in the way you are implying. I'll leave you alone now to your hatred and ask you to leave me to my beliefs.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest. "
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Just heard on news night.
There is still one victim never found. That secret has gone with him to his grave....  "
I think he tried once to show them but he forgot where he buried him...
He was deranged |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Good riddance!! I hope the evil c**t suffered right up to his final breath!! He could have put that poor woman out of her misery years ago instead she died never knowing where her child was buried. There is something wrong with anyone who feels an ounce of sympathy for this man. Let him burn in hell with that bitch Hindley."
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I know someone who had to carry some countenance in his cell, he said without knowing who it there was a presence about him of poor evil. Just the way brady liked at him, made him scared to be there.
God knows what happened to him, to fuck him up so badly. Death was too kind to him I think. |
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Bit selfish of him going and dying like that, now who are people going to fantasize about ramming with red hot pokers or gouging eyeballs out or castrating? Can I nominate another couple of Ian's as society's vitriolic safety valve, Huntley and Watkins? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?"
But that isn't what people want to hear. We're supposed to call him an animal and pond scum and ready a spot for him in Abu Ghraib.  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
Why? He has died. He was going to die, as are we all. His crimes were heinous beyond belief but wishing him dead, especially after death, does nothing to balance that account: NOTHING can. I don't believe in the death sentence and I do believe that people (some, not all) have the capacity for rehabilitation.
What is sick about stating the facts and wishing people affected peace?
Liberalistic hippy, live and let live, come what may. It's an idealism that isn't always appropriate to all situations. This one most definitely. "
What a daft, idiotic comment to make based on the actuality of what was posted. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
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Personally I am more than deliriously happy to "distance myself" from this "monster".
Yes he was a monster - if this is demonizing him - so he it.
He was not "just a man", he was a vile animal. I am de-humanizing him because he was NOT human - pure evil on that scale is not human.
You seem to conveniently brush over the victims of his henous acts, abuse and torture of 6 innocents.
Does everyone who has the "motive, opportunity and intent" HAVE to act on it, because 'normal' adults who do, do NOT act in that situation. It's a good job that everyone in the right place at the right time don't commit crimes because if that is your logic,, the prisons would be bursting at the seams.
I guess it's ok for him and his bitch to torture and abuse children (one of whom, a little girl, was recorded crying that she wants her mummy) as long as we are not demonizing him eh?
He was a horrific, disgusting parasite and you seem to think that is ok because he is "ill" and I guess that makes it ok then. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
Personally I am more than deliriously happy to "distance myself" from this "monster".
Yes he was a monster - if this is demonizing him - so he it.
He was not "just a man", he was a vile animal. I am de-humanizing him because he was NOT human - pure evil on that scale is not human.
You seem to conveniently brush over the victims of his henous acts, abuse and torture of 6 innocents.
Does everyone who has the "motive, opportunity and intent" HAVE to act on it, because 'normal' adults who do, do NOT act in that situation. It's a good job that everyone in the right place at the right time don't commit crimes because if that is your logic,, the prisons would be bursting at the seams.
I guess it's ok for him and his bitch to torture and abuse children (one of whom, a little girl, was recorded crying that she wants her mummy) as long as we are not demonizing him eh?
He was a horrific, disgusting parasite and you seem to think that is ok because he is "ill" and I guess that makes it ok then. "
I think you've missed the point (as many others have) completely. |
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
Personally I am more than deliriously happy to "distance myself" from this "monster".
Yes he was a monster - if this is demonizing him - so he it.
He was not "just a man", he was a vile animal. I am de-humanizing him because he was NOT human - pure evil on that scale is not human.
You seem to conveniently brush over the victims of his henous acts, abuse and torture of 6 innocents.
Does everyone who has the "motive, opportunity and intent" HAVE to act on it, because 'normal' adults who do, do NOT act in that situation. It's a good job that everyone in the right place at the right time don't commit crimes because if that is your logic,, the prisons would be bursting at the seams.
I guess it's ok for him and his bitch to torture and abuse children (one of whom, a little girl, was recorded crying that she wants her mummy) as long as we are not demonizing him eh?
He was a horrific, disgusting parasite and you seem to think that is ok because he is "ill" and I guess that makes it ok then. "
What a weird reply.
Brady is the same decaying matter as everything else. He's not going to hell because it doesn't exist. You are as human as he was. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive"
Id happily pay to keep him alive if he was suffering a slow and agonising death like he put those poor babies through. |
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive
Id happily pay to keep him alive if he was suffering a slow and agonising death like he put those poor babies through. "
You would pay to torture the man to death? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Partyyyyyy ONNNNN...!!!
That's great news  One less complete scumbag breathing. He should have been beaten to a pulp every day of his miserable existence after being caught until he either fessed-up the information or died.
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive
Id happily pay to keep him alive if he was suffering a slow and agonising death like he put those poor babies through.
You would pay to torture the man to death?"
Think there's quite a few volunteers on here atm! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The readiness with which people advocate torture actually makes me worry for society."
Their ability to not see that in relation to the subject they talk about worries me even more.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let the State bury him and let us try and forget him. I hope the families of the victims find some peace now with his death
However, I am not going to dance in glee on his grave. A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
- Mrs. J -"
If you believe in God... I don't. And so there is only us to judge him. And if you haven't murdered children and taken the whereabouts of their bodies to the grave with you, then I think you do have the right to judge him. |
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive
Id happily pay to keep him alive if he was suffering a slow and agonising death like he put those poor babies through.
You would pay to torture the man to death?
Think there's quite a few volunteers on here atm!"
There certainly does. Not exactly a great advert for society but so be it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive
Id happily pay to keep him alive if he was suffering a slow and agonising death like he put those poor babies through.
You would pay to torture the man to death?"
I said Id pay to keep him alive in his own bodily agony from cancer not pay to overtly torture him .... Id do that for free !!
I have unfortunately in my profession had the task of listening to the dying cries of that poor little girl. I can never block out what I heard - ever. |
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"Partyyyyyy ONNNNN...!!!
That's great news One less complete scumbag breathing. He should have been beaten to a pulp every day of his miserable existence after being caught until he either fessed-up the information or died.
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Here, here mate.....could not have said it better myself. I don't care one bit if any of the do-gooders, dreamers and unrealistic idiots judge me, - i totally agree that he should have been tortured until he gave up the whereabouts of his victims.
If I had a say, his toes would be chopped off one by one and dipped in acid - I'm pretty sure he would talk pretty damn quick...
And before you human rights lot start going on, don't bother....what about the human right's of the victims and their families - are they less important???
I'll certainty be having a drink to the scums death |
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive
Id happily pay to keep him alive if he was suffering a slow and agonising death like he put those poor babies through.
You would pay to torture the man to death?
I said Id pay to keep him alive in his own bodily agony from cancer not pay to overtly torture him .... Id do that for free !!
I have unfortunately in my profession had the task of listening to the dying cries of that poor little girl. I can never block out what I heard - ever. "
Killing for vengeance vs killing for pleasure. I see where you're coming from. |
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"Partyyyyyy ONNNNN...!!!
That's great news One less complete scumbag breathing. He should have been beaten to a pulp every day of his miserable existence after being caught until he either fessed-up the information or died.
Here, here mate.....could not have said it better myself. I don't care one bit if any of the do-gooders, dreamers and unrealistic idiots judge me, - i totally agree that he should have been tortured until he gave up the whereabouts of his victims.
If I had a say, his toes would be chopped off one by one and dipped in acid - I'm pretty sure he would talk pretty damn quick...
And before you human rights lot start going on, don't bother....what about the human right's of the victims and their families - are they less important???
I'll certainty be having a drink to the scums death"
The human rights of the victims families are exactly as important. Enjoy your drink. |
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"The readiness with which people advocate torture actually makes me worry for society.
Their ability to not see that in relation to the subject they talk about worries me even more.
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there's been some worrying reading tonight. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Hope the cunt died screaming!"
Apparently he died of Cancer. Just like hundreds of Cancer patients die each week in this country. I sincerely hope that they don't die screaming either
- Mrs. J - |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
Try telling that to his victims parents!"
Other murder victims have families too and they too loved their sons/daughters/husbands/wives/mothers/fathers as much
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest. "
Why is it sick?
The man was evil. I have buried a child and barely survived that loss, I can't imagine the pain those parents went through, let alone the poor woman who died not knowing where her son's body was.
Lickety has also buried a child.
I read her comment to mean that although he had the luxury of living after robbing children of their lives and causing untold grief, his miserable life had ended and with that those that wished him dead could now "move on". |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
Why? He has died. He was going to die, as are we all. His crimes were heinous beyond belief but wishing him dead, especially after death, does nothing to balance that account: NOTHING can. I don't believe in the death sentence and I do believe that people (some, not all) have the capacity for rehabilitation.
What is sick about stating the facts and wishing people affected peace?
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I knew what you meant.
Same as when Thatcher died, all the glee and tasteless songs. I couldn't stand the woman or what she stood for, but I couldn't see the point in dancing on her grave. |
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"Let the State bury him and let us try and forget him. I hope the families of the victims find some peace now with his death
However, I am not going to dance in glee on his grave. A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
- Mrs. J -"
This! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Let the State bury him and let us try and forget him. I hope the families of the victims find some peace now with his death
However, I am not going to dance in glee on his grave. A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
- Mrs. J -
If you believe in God... I don't. And so there is only us to judge him. And if you haven't murdered children and taken the whereabouts of their bodies to the grave with you, then I think you do have the right to judge him. "
Man's laws found him guilty of murder and man's laws incarcerated him for the remainder of his life. I think that was the correct thing to do to protect society further from this killer
Your non-belief in God means that it is the end of the matter now that he is dead. Since I believe in God, I think that the real punishment will start now if God decides to place him in purgatory hell where he is 'divorced' from his creator. That would be the greatest punishment I could suffer. But this thread is not about belief or otherwise in the Creator. This thread has turned into a cry for blood and torture. Makes me really sad and frightened that I might come across some of the people here who have this insatiable desire to torture another human-being 
- Mrs. J - |
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"A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
- Mrs. J -"
That'll be the omnipotent entity that allowed him to torture and kill little kids will it?
If we don't judge evil people no one will. |
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
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I think your casting pearls of wisdom before swine. |
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"A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
- Mrs. J -
That'll be the omnipotent entity that allowed him to torture and kill little kids will it?
If we don't judge evil people no one will."
We did and we locked him up until he died. That was to protect society from any further danger from him
But I cannot judge the kind of punishment he should receive. And I am certainly not worthy to decide to castrate him, gouge his eyes out, etc. I honestly cannot even bear thinking about some of the horrible tortures which have been suggested on this thread. Do we, as a society, have turned so barbaric as to suggest these tortures. Yes, I am aware that he tortured children and killed them. And we did the correct thing by protecting our children
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
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You are too wise and humane for this thread; x
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By *awty40_xxWoman
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
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Yeah im sute the poor kids familes are now at peace rip those innocent little kids may this piece of vermin rot in hell |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them. "
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh? |
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I'm finding this thread pretty vile tbh.
But I guess it's what we do.
Nobody in their right mind can understand why he carried out his crimes. So we resort to the only thing we can do name calling and so on.
It leaves us in a state of rage and the basal animal instinct to protect our children comes to the surface.
When we were apes in the trees if a member of the troop did that to others babies it's likely that they would have torn them to pieces by the others .
As we have evolved (hopefully) from tree dwelling apes to logical thinking human beings we decided that when crimes were committed the guilty parties would be tried in the highest court of law.
Judged by 12good men and true, sentenced by an official appointment by Queen and parliament.
The high Court sentenced him for the term of his natural life.
Sentence has been carried out.
He is dead.
I feel nothing but the deepest sympathy and sorrow for the families and the victimsand my heart goes out to them.
For him I feel NOTHING. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?"
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"I'm finding this thread pretty vile tbh.
But I guess it's what we do.
Nobody in their right mind can understand why he carried out his crimes. So we resort to the only thing we can do name calling and so on.
It leaves us in a state of rage and the basal animal instinct to protect our children comes to the surface.
When we were apes in the trees if a member of the troop did that to others babies it's likely that they would have torn them to pieces by the others .
As we have evolved (hopefully) from tree dwelling apes to logical thinking human beings we decided that when crimes were committed the guilty parties would be tried in the highest court of law.
Judged by 12good men and true, sentenced by an official appointment by Queen and parliament.
The high Court sentenced him for the term of his natural life.
Sentence has been carried out.
He is dead.
I feel nothing but the deepest sympathy and sorrow for the families and the victimsand my heart goes out to them.
For him I feel NOTHING. "
Thank you; exactly my sentiments; x
I feel nothing for him either. I hope that the families of the victims will find some solace knowing that he is finally dead (as will all of us be, one day)
We locked him up for the remainder of his life. We did the most any civilised society could do. There would have been no reason to torture him; and who would carry out these tortures on him? It would frighten me to come across any person who would
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
I think your casting pearls of wisdom before swine."
My favourite bible passage, ever! Thank you.
Unfortunately it doesn't occur to the majority that finding pleasure in orchestrating another human's suffering and death is exactly what motivated Brady's crimes.
But hey ho. 'Give not your best to dogs', eh? |
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"I'm finding this thread pretty vile tbh.
But I guess it's what we do.
Nobody in their right mind can understand why he carried out his crimes. So we resort to the only thing we can do name calling and so on.
It leaves us in a state of rage and the basal animal instinct to protect our children comes to the surface.
When we were apes in the trees if a member of the troop did that to others babies it's likely that they would have torn them to pieces by the others .
As we have evolved (hopefully) from tree dwelling apes to logical thinking human beings we decided that when crimes were committed the guilty parties would be tried in the highest court of law.
Judged by 12good men and true, sentenced by an official appointment by Queen and parliament.
The high Court sentenced him for the term of his natural life.
Sentence has been carried out.
He is dead.
I feel nothing but the deepest sympathy and sorrow for the families and the victimsand my heart goes out to them.
For him I feel NOTHING. "
My sentiments too. |
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"I'm finding this thread pretty vile tbh.
But I guess it's what we do.
Nobody in their right mind can understand why he carried out his crimes. So we resort to the only thing we can do name calling and so on.
It leaves us in a state of rage and the basal animal instinct to protect our children comes to the surface.
When we were apes in the trees if a member of the troop did that to others babies it's likely that they would have torn them to pieces by the others .
As we have evolved (hopefully) from tree dwelling apes to logical thinking human beings we decided that when crimes were committed the guilty parties would be tried in the highest court of law.
Judged by 12good men and true, sentenced by an official appointment by Queen and parliament.
The high Court sentenced him for the term of his natural life.
Sentence has been carried out.
He is dead.
I feel nothing but the deepest sympathy and sorrow for the families and the victimsand my heart goes out to them.
For him I feel NOTHING. "
This.. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?
Each to their own. It is my opinion thanks. Personally I don't understand anyone who sympathises with murdering paefophiles "
I don't see anyone on this thread sympathising with murdering paedophiles. If you do, then you're clearly taking a lot of the comments out of context. I find it worrying that people are so quick to jump on others nd call them "sick" and "murdering paedophile sympathisers" just because they don't agree with the death penalty or torturing individuals. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?
Each to their own. It is my opinion thanks. Personally I don't understand anyone who sympathises with murdering paefophiles
I don't see anyone on this thread sympathising with murdering paedophiles. If you do, then you're clearly taking a lot of the comments out of context. I find it worrying that people are so quick to jump on others nd call them "sick" and "murdering paedophile sympathisers" just because they don't agree with the death penalty or torturing individuals. "
no need to worry, I'm clearly not the only one in thread that read the original paragraph the way I interpreted it |
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"Good riddance!! I hope the evil c**t suffered right up to his final breath!! He could have put that poor woman out of her misery years ago instead she died never knowing where her child was buried. There is something wrong with anyone who feels an ounce of sympathy for this man. Let him burn in hell with that bitch Hindley."
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"I'm finding this thread pretty vile tbh.
But I guess it's what we do.
Nobody in their right mind can understand why he carried out his crimes. So we resort to the only thing we can do name calling and so on.
It leaves us in a state of rage and the basal animal instinct to protect our children comes to the surface.
When we were apes in the trees if a member of the troop did that to others babies it's likely that they would have torn them to pieces by the others .
As we have evolved (hopefully) from tree dwelling apes to logical thinking human beings we decided that when crimes were committed the guilty parties would be tried in the highest court of law.
Judged by 12good men and true, sentenced by an official appointment by Queen and parliament.
The high Court sentenced him for the term of his natural life.
Sentence has been carried out.
He is dead.
I feel nothing but the deepest sympathy and sorrow for the families and the victimsand my heart goes out to them.
For him I feel NOTHING. "
Well said.
It seems that if you believe he was evil, you have to wish him tortured and killed painfully. I believe he was evil, but it's good enough for me that he was dealt with exactly as our laws say he should've been dealt with.
I hope the papers he left say where Keith's body is and he and Hindley fade into obscurity, and only their victims are remembered. |
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He had a long life. His young victims were robbed of theirs. One poor child is still out there, alone on the moors. A pure evil man who may of had a life sentence but so did the families of the children he and Hindley so callously murdered. Today my thoughts are with those he robbed of their adulthood. |
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I'm not sad that he is dead. I'm sad that he will have taken it to his grave where that poor little boy was buried and no one will ever know where he is. I would like to think that this vile man may have left some kind of clue or indication as to where that last body is, but I won't be holding my breath. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?
Each to their own. It is my opinion thanks. Personally I don't understand anyone who sympathises with murdering paefophiles
I don't see anyone on this thread sympathising with murdering paedophiles. If you do, then you're clearly taking a lot of the comments out of context. I find it worrying that people are so quick to jump on others nd call them "sick" and "murdering paedophile sympathisers" just because they don't agree with the death penalty or torturing individuals.
no need to worry, I'm clearly not the only one in thread that read the original paragraph the way I interpreted it "
It was clearly a comment hoping that all of those affected by Brady's actions can now find peace. I'm not sure what's so wrong with that. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?
Each to their own. It is my opinion thanks. Personally I don't understand anyone who sympathises with murdering paefophiles
I don't see anyone on this thread sympathising with murdering paedophiles. If you do, then you're clearly taking a lot of the comments out of context. I find it worrying that people are so quick to jump on others nd call them "sick" and "murdering paedophile sympathisers" just because they don't agree with the death penalty or torturing individuals.
no need to worry, I'm clearly not the only one in thread that read the original paragraph the way I interpreted it "
There's also a fair few people that think you've made a great leap of baloney in your interpretation of L's comment that is both offensive and demonstrating rather a low level of ability to think. But you know, I'm not worried just feel a bit sorry for how you must have to live in a state of misunderstanding, and attack based on that inability to comprehend. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?
Each to their own. It is my opinion thanks. Personally I don't understand anyone who sympathises with murdering paefophiles "
That's an utterly bizarre assumption given no one has expressed any sympathy with a murdering paedophile..?
You have totally misread for whatever reason the post you initially responded to.. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?
Each to their own. It is my opinion thanks. Personally I don't understand anyone who sympathises with murdering paefophiles
That's an utterly bizarre assumption given no one has expressed any sympathy with a murdering paedophile..?
You have totally misread for whatever reason the post you initially responded to.."
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
I can think of a lot of things that are "pretty sick", and this comment isn't one of them.
I didn't read this as 'sick' either tbh?
Each to their own. It is my opinion thanks. Personally I don't understand anyone who sympathises with murdering paefophiles
I don't see anyone on this thread sympathising with murdering paedophiles. If you do, then you're clearly taking a lot of the comments out of context. I find it worrying that people are so quick to jump on others nd call them "sick" and "murdering paedophile sympathisers" just because they don't agree with the death penalty or torturing individuals.
no need to worry, I'm clearly not the only one in thread that read the original paragraph the way I interpreted it
It was clearly a comment hoping that all of those affected by Brady's actions can now find peace. I'm not sure what's so wrong with that."
That's how I read it too. |
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There's no peace to be found in this guy's death. I'm sure now he is dead the victims families will realise it
The only thing that will bring peace is them getting their kids back. That's the saddest part in all of this |
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"'He tried to show them but had forgotten'...
I hope you're right and he had genuinely forgotten... otherwise that's just another example of his utter cruelty. Poor lady"
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
I think your comment is pretty sick to be honest.
Why? He has died. He was going to die, as are we all. His crimes were heinous beyond belief but wishing him dead, especially after death, does nothing to balance that account: NOTHING can. I don't believe in the death sentence and I do believe that people (some, not all) have the capacity for rehabilitation.
What is sick about stating the facts and wishing people affected peace?
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"'He tried to show them but had forgotten'...
I hope you're right and he had genuinely forgotten... otherwise that's just another example of his utter cruelty. Poor lady"
He was a vile, cruel bastard. I watched a prog once, one of the most harrowing, distressing things I have ever seen.
Winnie Bennett had so much dignity. She said that he had sent her a letter requesting that she visit the prison.
She went thinking that the scum would give up her Son's location and show some remorse, but all he did was mock and taunt her. As if he hadn't put the poor lady through enough.
Pure evil pond life. |
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By *ugby 123Couple
over a year ago
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I can judge. I do judge and I like others think he was a monster and will say so.
While I understand people thinking " so what" that he is dead as I thought the same, but I can't understand why some "say" they would like to have done violent things to him including torture..wouldn't that make you the same monster as him |
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"A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
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I can judge. I do judge and I like others think he was a monster and will say so.
While I understand people thinking " so what" that he is dead as I thought the same, but I can't understand why some "say" they would like to have done violent things to him including torture..wouldn't that make you the same monster as him "
And that is fine too; some people will judge him. To me, it was sufficient that he was locked up for life where he could not do any more harm to anyone
Whether he was a monster, a psychopath, a deranged man, vile, evil or any other whole host of descriptions, does not matter to me but I can see that it makes some people feel better giving him a label
What I do find really disturbing are the cries for maiming him or torturing him
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"A human-being is dead and I am not worthy to judge him; only God can
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I can judge. I do judge and I like others think he was a monster and will say so.
While I understand people thinking " so what" that he is dead as I thought the same, but I can't understand why some "say" they would like to have done violent things to him including torture..wouldn't that make you the same monster as him
And that is fine too; some people will judge him. To me, it was sufficient that he was locked up for life where he could not do any more harm to anyone
Whether he was a monster, a psychopath, a deranged man, vile, evil or any other whole host of descriptions, does not matter to me but I can see that it makes some people feel better giving him a label
What I do find really disturbing are the cries for maiming him or torturing him
- Mrs. J -"
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"'He tried to show them but had forgotten'...
I hope you're right and he had genuinely forgotten... otherwise that's just another example of his utter cruelty. Poor lady
He was a vile, cruel bastard. I watched a prog once, one of the most harrowing, distressing things I have ever seen.
Winnie Bennett had so much dignity. She said that he had sent her a letter requesting that she visit the prison.
She went thinking that the scum would give up her Son's location and show some remorse, but all he did was mock and taunt her. As if he hadn't put the poor lady through enough.
Pure evil pond life."
I could quite happily put him on a band saw that day. Started with his toes and worked my way up an inch at a time. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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grew up in saddleworth and ranged all over those moors as a teenager woukd regulaly run into winnie johnson and her family up there trying to search for keiths body .did you know if they take a shovel onto the moor they face arrest ! Detective inspector topping is quoted as saying that if keiths body eas in the area of shiney brook as pointed out by both Hindley & Brady then he may never be found having been washed away during winter storms in the area that can turn a trickling stream into a vast raging torrent in a matter of minuites .saddly for the family i think he may never be laid to rest |
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"grew up in saddleworth and ranged all over those moors as a teenager woukd regulaly run into winnie johnson and her family up there trying to search for keiths body .did you know if they take a shovel onto the moor they face arrest ! Detective inspector topping is quoted as saying that if keiths body eas in the area of shiney brook as pointed out by both Hindley & Brady then he may never be found having been washed away during winter storms in the area that can turn a trickling stream into a vast raging torrent in a matter of minuites .saddly for the family i think he may never be laid to rest "
Thats awful about the shovel. I didnt know that |
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I don't understand why folk who have no connection to his crimes are wasting so much venom on him.
Why don't you turn your hate into love and compassion for his victims and their families. If your so bitter and carnt bring yourselves to do that then at least have no feelings and thoughts for the crimes.
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
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"It's easy to demonise people. It distances us from them, so there's comfort in calling people monsters. But they were just people. A deeply disturbed, psychiatrically ill man, and a woman infatuated enough to believe his rhetoric.
They had the plans, the means, the opportunity, and the intent to commit those terrible crimes. But they were still only people.
It's rather like saying that Hitler wasn't human. He was. He treated his dogs and family well, apparently. But he was a strong public speaker, in an impoverished and desperate nation. Right place, right time. Power did the rest.
Forgetting that these people were just people, is kind of blinkered, isn't it?
Personally I am more than deliriously happy to "distance myself" from this "monster".
Yes he was a monster - if this is demonizing him - so he it.
He was not "just a man", he was a vile animal. I am de-humanizing him because he was NOT human - pure evil on that scale is not human.
You seem to conveniently brush over the victims of his henous acts, abuse and torture of 6 innocents.
Does everyone who has the "motive, opportunity and intent" HAVE to act on it, because 'normal' adults who do, do NOT act in that situation. It's a good job that everyone in the right place at the right time don't commit crimes because if that is your logic,, the prisons would be bursting at the seams.
I guess it's ok for him and his bitch to torture and abuse children (one of whom, a little girl, was recorded crying that she wants her mummy) as long as we are not demonizing him eh?
He was a horrific, disgusting parasite and you seem to think that is ok because he is "ill" and I guess that makes it ok then. "
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From an economical point of _iew then he should have had capital punishment (it was a year before his crime that it was abolished) its cost around 14 million to keep him in that mental hospital all these years. In terms of his suffering, he made it known many times that he wished he could face the death penalty so I'm glad he was kept alive against his wishes. Just wish they'd been able to get Keith's location out of him before he died. |
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By *eavenNhellCouple
over a year ago
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".did you know if they take a shovel onto the moor they face arrest !
Where did you get that from? They used to go to there regularly with shovels. "
Detective inspector Peter Topping on a tv programme about the killings and the later search and discovery of Pauline Reads remains was a throw away comment about the familys continued search |
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"i think crimes of this magnitude should get the death penalty "
In his case, yes I think I agree. He cost the UK over £16 million. All that money to keep alive a man who wanted to be dead.
But to me, the end of life care was thought provoking. I nursed my sick husband ten months in our own home. At the end, were it not for charity, he would have died in pain or had to go to hospital or hospice.
Our system looked after Brady well until the end. I never wished him harm, but one has to question is it right for one person, with nothing to offer society, to be indulged to the tune of that much money. The treasury pocket is not infinite as some may like to think.
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What I am about to write will probably result in a lot of folk here blocking us
Life is very precious and we are given it by God. It is not our right to take someone's life away from them. Yes, not even a criminal like this killer who not only took five lives but tortured them first
If it was my child, I think I would go mad and want revenge. But I know that if I managed to get that revenge, I will feel even worse. The torture and murder of my child made me sink to his level. I would much rather maintain my dignity and let God punish him
I recognise that not everyone believes in God and maybe that is why there is a lot of, "he got away with it". First of all, he spent 50 years of his life behind bars; and secondly, he did not get away with it, yet
Those who advocate torture; how long could you have tortured him for? Hours, days? Where he is now, the punishment could be for eternity
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"What I am about to write will probably result in a lot of folk here blocking us
Life is very precious and we are given it by God. It is not our right to take someone's life away from them. Yes, not even a criminal like this killer who not only took five lives but tortured them first
If it was my child, I think I would go mad and want revenge. But I know that if I managed to get that revenge, I will feel even worse. The torture and murder of my child made me sink to his level. I would much rather maintain my dignity and let God punish him
I recognise that not everyone believes in God and maybe that is why there is a lot of, "he got away with it". First of all, he spent 50 years of his life behind bars; and secondly, he did not get away with it, yet
Those who advocate torture; how long could you have tortured him for? Hours, days? Where he is now, the punishment could be for eternity
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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago
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I don't believe in god....
As the inter_iew between Stephen Fry and pope Benedict.... along the lines of.
"What evil twisted god would create such a vulgar animal, to cause such torture and death on innocent children, why? Why would a god do such a thing?" |
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"I don't believe in god....
As the inter_iew between Stephen Fry and pope Benedict.... along the lines of.
"What evil twisted god would create such a vulgar animal, to cause such torture and death on innocent children, why? Why would a god do such a thing?""
His mother gave birth to him. She wasn't evil or twisted, was she?
This is not what the thread is about but God created me and gave me free will. It is now up to me how I use that life
By the way, I am not a liberal; my husband is and his _iew on all of this is even more mellow than mine
I think I will leave this thread now as I don't think I like what I am reading. And no, I wasn't' referring to your post
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By *dy-ukTV/TS
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I think I will leave this thread now as I don't think I like what I am reading. And no, I wasn't' referring to your post
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Glad you weren't referring to my post.
Sorry if my if my honest opinion is sometimes not good reading. |
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over a year ago
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The saddest thing is, the perpetrators of heinous crimes get more air time and media space than the victims, therefore becoming more memorable. The victims are almost by products of the notoriety and sensationalism. The names that should be known and remembered are often overshadowed by those that would be better forgotten. |
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"He had cancer, was 79 and had been incarcerated for nearly my whole life. I hope everyone hoping for his death has some peace now.
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Yeah and he still wouldn't bring resolution to the relatives of the child he murdered - even on his deathbed. And then the sick sod wanted his ashes spread on Saddleworth Moor..
Don't feel sorry for him or try to humanise him, He was unrepentant to the last and would have murdered more kids if he'd ever been let out.
He was wired up wrong and it would have been better for everyone if he'd never been born.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with rejoicing at his death. |
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"What I am about to write will probably result in a lot of folk here blocking us
Life is very precious and we are given it by God. It is not our right to take someone's life away from them. Yes, not even a criminal like this killer who not only took five lives but tortured them first
If it was my child, I think I would go mad and want revenge. But I know that if I managed to get that revenge, I will feel even worse. The torture and murder of my child made me sink to his level. I would much rather maintain my dignity and let God punish him
I recognise that not everyone believes in God and maybe that is why there is a lot of, "he got away with it". First of all, he spent 50 years of his life behind bars; and secondly, he did not get away with it, yet
Those who advocate torture; how long could you have tortured him for? Hours, days? Where he is now, the punishment could be for eternity
- Mrs. J -
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Love this x |
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Good too see the authorities have refused to release his body until assurance have been given that his cremated ashes wont be scattered over Saddleworth Moor |
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive wonder who's gonna pay for its funeral. "
Just fill his coffin with heavy bricks and dump the coffin at sea somewhere. |
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By *dy-ukTV/TS
over a year ago
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive wonder who's gonna pay for its funeral.
Just fill his coffin with heavy bricks and dump the coffin at sea somewhere."
Down an active volcano shaft.
Let the earths heat absorb him with no grave! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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He was wired up wrong.
For me that makes it not his fault. I'm more interested in why he was wired wrong and how than i am in rejoicing. Shame they couldn't stick him through some fMRI."
I think that's been done and they've now identified the under functioning part of the brain that is implicated in psycopathy. There was a very intersting documentary about that a couple of years back. |
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"At least the tax payer will not have to waste any money paying to keep the scum alive wonder who's gonna pay for its funeral.
I doubt whether there will be a grave stone. "
Doubt they'd give Brady a grave stone, cause it get destroyed etc, so probably in an unmarked grave somewhere where no-one will know.
(Sure once all the truth came out about jimmy savile, his grave stone got vandalised and eventually taken down/removed)
Still a think burial at sea would be a better choice. |
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"Just heard on news night.
There is still one victim never found. That secret has gone with him to his grave....
I think he tried once to show them but he forgot where he buried him...
He was deranged "
Not sure he did know. I think he didn't want you to look stupid by not knowing where he buried him, giving his superiority complex |
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